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Whenever Atreus is in immediate danger Kratos stops holding back, he did it against Magni & Modi, instantly executing Magni with minimal effort when Atreus was in trouble. 6:31 he could easily level this entire building with one punch, "building focus" refers to him pulling his punches and keeping composure, despite being as strong as he is. He is stronger than ever, he chooses not to show it because he doesn't want conflict, he wasn't going to kill Magni until Atreus put himself in danger, he even met Modi walk away.

The point of Kratos going to sleep from fatigue immediately made me think: "There are other kinds of tired, lad. You’ll see when you’re getting older."

I think he appears weaker because holding back is harder than letting it all out. His strength is driven by his rage. He’s incredibly strong at base but when he’s mad it’s ridiculous. He’s lived his life fueled by his emotions and now trying to suppress all that takes a physical toll on him.

Intro never fails ima keep saying it; I’m going to say he is definitely holding back; compared to his original self being hellbent on revenge for decades I think he’s having a inner conflict it’s like denying your trueself

If you note his Journal after killing Heimdall, he enjoyed it. I think he holds back as he still enjoys the rage and bloodshed, but if he’s more powerful, imagine the destruction he can cause. He doesn’t want to be this way but it doesn’t mean he doesn’t enjoy it.

I believe Cory Balrog said that Kratos was holding back throughout both games. That if he went all out like in previous games, he'd just steamroll everyone and the game wouldn't be fun to play and because he doesn't want to destroy everything. It's one of the many signs that he's matured as a man and a deity. But he's much stronger than he was in the previous games, Godly items or no.

i rember when thor keeps telling kratos to stop holding back but then when he mentions atreus we get a glimpse of the old kratos coming back out with a single punch that knocks a tooth out of thors mouth

I 1000% agree. but he's only capable of suppressing it for so long and it's only a matter of time till his anger breaks out all at once. you may have the mental fortitude of a diamond but it's streangth can only last for so long

He got stronger. Physically anyway. This is consistent as Kratos, himself, wrote in his journals that Thor was the strongest foe he ever faced in their first fight and later when he defeats Thor Thor wasn't "playing games" anymore. He did have lots more magic in the Greek era and the types of abilities they had were better than what the Norse gods have.

I think Kratos' fights with Thor show how helping clear his inner turmoil helped improve his strength. In his first fight at the start of Ragnarok he pretty clearly loses the fight, and he is originally destined to lose his second fight with Thor. Clearing his inner turmoil and fighting with a clear mind allowed him to beat Thor (yes they technically called off the fight but he was clearly winning) and then takes on Odin who is even stronger than Thor.

Physically he is stronger. But his spirit is in conflict. He is not "tired" physically...he is exhausted emotionally and spiritually. Its like a deep depression that keeps you bedridden. You have the strength to stand...but lack the will. Essentially he is holding himself back due to this conflict of his nature.

Kratos is much more stronger now as a person then to his younger years.

Kratos already answered this question in the comic book DLC that accompanied GOW 2018. He answers it every time he teaches Atreus about self-control. Kratos definitely is holding back.

I think the difference is that in Greek era, his rage made him the god slayer he was, but in Norse era, he did'nt need the rage, but was more calculating warrior. That's maybe why he was a little weaker, because he setteled down, and let go of his rage, but stayed as calculating warrior

I think its similar to how Atreus got sick because he didn't know he was a god. Not acepping ones godly powers seems to weaken the god or at least Atreus and Kratos.

This actually makes sense! Atreus was sick because he was unaware of his true nature as a god being a god thinking he’s a human made him sick and weak. Kratos internally fighting rage and bloodlust is combating with his exact nature as a god that his power derives from. Which is why the devs of the game say Kratos is actually stronger being that gods get stronger the older they get but Kratos battling with himself within is making him seem weaker. I also agree with the analogy of him holding back as well more so in god of war 2018 because it was more so about training Atreus if Kratos went all out Atreus wouldn’t get the training he needs. But there were little key things in ragnarok that i noticed! Like in 2018 GOW he flipped Tyr’s temple! Then In ragnarok i was like why does it seem like it takes so much effort to lift certain things or rip down a wooden fence with the blades.

I really love how this shows the evolution of how Karatos copes with grief. In the older games, he is angered and violent. In the newer games, he has grown to have more restraint and processes his feelings of loss verbally. I think the concept of "grief fatigue" can describe his experience. And he's struggling, but he's also much more mature and human now. He's a good role model. It makes you want to know how his wife taught him all that in the short time they were able to be happy together.

One thing I remember is Kratos saying all gods gain power as they grow older, so he's undoubtedly more powerful if he lets loose. He just doesn't want to be that monster

The devs said multiple times he's significantly stronger than he was in gow3. He's not weaker he's just not a revenge driven machine anymore

One of the developers said, old Kratos is stronger but young Kratos is deadlier.

To put simple, I think he just doesn’t want to be known as a God Killing monster, to be more than just a monster. In his own words, to be better. He never grew tired in the past, because his rage kept driving him forward. He’s older and wiser now, he knows when and where he needs to battle or turn away, how to hold back to avoid senseless killing. He’s not as brutal as he used to be, he was far worse in past games. Now it’s more like he’s quick and efficient, applying power where it’s needed.

Dude is holding back and still is so god daym powerful

Good video. I think the old man story that he starts telling to Atreus is supposed to illustrate his mental fatigue and his being worn down by all this conflict and violence, hence his calling for death. After the final fight the ending of that story is changed as Kratos has found new purpose. He seems weaker merely because of his restraint and like you said he's haunted by his past atrocities. He isn't any physically weaker but throughout 2018 and most of Ragnarok he is 'mentally tired'. Like you said.

Kratos tapped into a different power other than rage, it's the love for his son Atreus and the friends he made along the way. Faye knew he can change for the better and towards the end he told Atreus that he should open his heart which was the opposite of what he said in the first game. When he saw the Mural at the end of the game, Kratos was shocked that the people recognized him for the good he did rather than being known as a destructive monster. People can change no matter the tainted past they previously lived.

It was confirmed that the older Kratos gets, the stronger he is. He never got weaker. He's actually stronger than he was back when he was fighting the Greek gods. It's just that he holds back a lot.

At the end of Ragnarok when kratos tears up seeing the prophecy on the mural was the pivotal point where he actually let go of the past. Finally accepting that he deserves to be loved.

The thing about wall punching is, if someone does not get it yet, is Kratos focusing on holding back your emotions, power, everything. Because when you're powerful, a wall like that won't do much but what did the wall even do to you for it to receive your punch? So you attempt punch it but focus on stopping yourself at the last moment before your first touches the wall for it to not crumble.

Ain't easy being the god of war.

Now imagine what would happen if Odin or Heimdal killed Atreus. Ragnarok would only be a minor inconvenience compared to what Kratos' uncontrollable rage would entail.

Its really tiring if you were holding back such power and anger

The fact that Kratos can hold back from punching apart the house, the plot, ALONGSIDE THE REALM IT IS IN, is proof of his strength of will and discipline

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Just like anyone if ur mental isn’t right and in the zone you won’t perform as well

Always love when u upload keep up the good work

My theory is that he was passed the mantle of God of War when Ares was killed. So perhaps as long as he is in enraged in combat and not holding back, hence fufilling his moniker, he will continue to be at maximum strength. But, during times of peace or possessing an inner calm, he gets weaker since he is "cutting himself off" from the depths of his strength. I know Kratos is naturally strong being a demi-god and all even before becoming God of War, but perhaps obtaining the mantle pushed him further over the strength and power scale and maybe he's reverting back to his regular demi-god strength he always had, minus the "God of War" power boost, Plus, dude is just plain ol' getting old

I guess the egyptian Pantheon(if we get there) will be the biggest challenge of them all. We will probably see kratos lose control more than once or Kratos will die (yet again) for the final time, I think

I think its more so the fact kratos holds back his anger because his base strength is definitely much weaker than kratos from the first 3 games where he was perpetually angry most of the time plus the fact he lost most of his weapons and magic from those games, and also the fact that kratos has different drives in the games in the og trilogy he was driven by vengeance but in the new games his driven by the protection of his son so he has no reason to go all out all the time unless its a life or death situation involving his son

Heres hoping something happens to atreus and God of War Kratos' comes out.

Also i personally think greek kratos would have been able to kill heimdall with only the blades because that kratos does not think before attacking meaning heimdall wouldnt be able to read his mind

That exercise in punching the wall really is something of extreme focus for Kratos. Hes punching that wall with the force of a man not breaking it but tempering himself

he's not weak like he fucking flipped tyr's temple and pushed the bridge of tyr's temple in the 2018 game

I think that Kratos's strength is situational. Normally, he's superhuman is his strength, but when needed, his strength can ramp up to superman levels (flipping a temple). THAT is one of his inherent god powers.

Well said❤ great work on putting this all together 🎉

Subbed, amazing video, love these games so much! 💯😃

Hes holding back, but is indeed stronger physically. However he has no magic.

Me whenever an essay has a word count

good work G !! name of the background music tho ?

I believe it's both he's holding back and weaker. He's physically super powerful maybe even more so than his younger self but much weaker because he doesn't have a bunch of greek magic empowering him anymore as he's no longer in Greece and killed all the gods.

Doubt age is a factor but my honest opinion After he was tricked into killing his family it traumatized him he got his revenge but it didn't bring his family back But my personal thought is with his son being in danger his side comes out to protect not destroy But when atreus turned into a bear and Kratos not knowing almost killing it but when it turned out to be atreus that's when he I think was having flashbacks He's far from weak he's just tired

I love how this game grew up with its audience

bro did not have to drop that fire intro to the video

He is more stronger than ever In the same time he is the one that know when he need to use all of his powers

Kratos is not getting weaker from age, but rather from the strain of holding back. If anything, Kratos is getting stronger and stronger as he gets older. It's not really something to be concerned about because it's him learning to become more Human again as time goes on while also growing as a god. Ares knew that Kratos is at his strongest when he is angry and Kratos has an extremely nasty temper, a temper that never goes away but with age and experience he's more restrained. it's apparent that the Greek Gods were far worse than the Norse as only Heimdall managed to fully bring out the old Kratos, something many of the other Norse Gods failed to completely do so. While the Greek Gods were both more callous and Kratos far more temperamental, making it extremely easy for Kratos to snap and brutally murder them.

Nice video, kudos~

Man gave Kratos heat cuz he took a nap😂😂😂

I always saw the Kratos we get in the Norse saga is the ‘default’ level of strength he naturally has, without all those powers, special god forged equipment and augmentations he got during his fight against Zeus and Olympus.

He's definitely holding back. Like Superman. Also, he's afraid to go back to his old self if he really let loose. Also, I read somewhere Greek gods get stronger the older they get.

Straight up chills with the intro

Honestly it wasn't hard to figure out. Rage makes him stronger and in the new games he's heavily repressing that. Even in real life running on adrenaline and anger can make you stronger and able to brush off pain.

when he was punching the wall he was not punching it to break it, he was punching it so it won't break

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His great strength lies behind his rage, when he fights he tries so hard not to go there which is exhausting in itself. He lost his wife and kids because of his rage and a whole realm paid for it, he doesn’t want to go down that rabbit hole again.

Notice how whenever Kratos gets beaten (best examples with the two Valkyries towards the end of Ragnarok) the game pops "Press for Spartan Rage" prompt and then Kratos just smashes everything? To me that is a game mechanic tied to the lore, whenever Kratos gets pushed into a corner he has the leverage to let his rage take over for a bit, until the danger is gone.

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This is so spot on. I know exactly how exhausting it can be to try and restrain oneself. Kratos is doing everything in the last 2 games with weights that can be heavy even for a god. And coincidentally, having these weights are also making him stronger as he climbs metaphorical mountains. Gods speed to anyone he faces without the weights.

I love this video, I can tell that deep thought and passion was put into this video, well done my friend 👍

Bro took a depression nap those things are powerful

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Thanks for the analysis

my controller was vibrating so flipping hard when kratos was choking out heimdall

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The new dlc they made is absolutely critical explaining this. Dealing with his past and finally over coming it and accepting it. Just made him even stronger

Great video, why did it end so abruptly?

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Just like Mimir said to Atreus when he said you can't get tired and Mimir said: there is a different kind of tired lad

I think whenever Atreus is in danger Kratos doesn't hold back and his son being in danger is what triggers him to use his true strength as a god of war too. He wants to do everything he can to keep his son safe from harm no matter what enemies come their way. I find it very admirable that Kratos wants to protect Atreus that way and it seems like Atreus wants to protect his father from getting hurt or in danger in the same way Kratos protects him. The bond between Kratos and Atreus as father and son is pretty much unbreakable and it's the center of both God Of War 2018 and God of War Ragnarok. The stories are amazing! Nice job with the video too!

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Awesome writing. This game keeps surprising and impressing me. I didn't realize that Heimdall was reading Kratos's mind when he said "monster".

I think that the part with Kratos not wanting to become the monster he once was is solid, but also the trauma he got from it and not accepting it is also part of it. The thing with old man Kratos being stronger is because he isn't driven by rage, what blinded him, like in the old games he got wiser over time and learns that not everything can be solved with violence.

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He is not getting weaker

damn, that must've been something like one breath for every five words. You ok lol

Yeah I drive all day for work and you get tired by the end of the day, having to focus for 8+ hours at high speed

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Yes he's getting weaker He lost all of his weapons "including the BoO" He isn't a god since gow3 "weilding the blade gives him his powers back, you can see how in gow2 zeus boss his blades turn blue which is the color they used to look line when he was a god" He was barely walking after baldut fight Yes he got way weaker

Damn that intro went hard

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Very well explained and agreed. Amazing video. 👏🔥

The most tiring and stressful thing one can experience in the long term is repress unrivaled, uncontrolable rage. It eats you from the inside like fire.

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If kratos is weaker its because he chooses to be

nice vid (:

Is this a re-upload? I swear I’ve seen this video before