The truth about army painter Speed Paints

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We did deep dive testing all the army painter speed paints and compared them to the Citadel Contrasts and other paints to see if they are as good at helping you paint faster as the advertising say.
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@SquidmarMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын

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@colmbright9822 2 жыл бұрын

Get these my 7 year old loves them and flew though them in days

@GenXMoose 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! My girls (5 & 6) L O V E these books and Aaron Renyolds in general! Next up is to get the figures and get them painting! Thanks Squidmar for the rec!

@nathanieldutile8383 2 жыл бұрын

This is an interesting perspective I do think these paints will benefit beginners and true to their name, speed jobs that a little more basic. I think you guys are so high level that the benefits don't shine through quite as much and integrating them into your tool box might be harder.

@TheArmyPainter 2 жыл бұрын

I think you nailed it at the end: this was designed from the ground up. It’s not Contrast, or Quickshade, or anything else. Speedpaint is Speedpaint. But we are honored to have you review the set! Squidmar, think your followers would like a giveaway? You say the word ;)

@metalor696 2 жыл бұрын

I think they would!

@JohnSmith-rt5yq 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know if the other followers would, but I'd love to get my hands on a set to run through some tests! I can bring them over to my hobby painting team and let them run a muck and record the results!

@chipmercury 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to get my hands on an early copy! I work at my local game store and I've been eagerly talking to my coworkers about Speedpaint, it would be great to actually try them out to help our customers out at release!

@Heath86 2 жыл бұрын

Yes please

@phoulmouth 2 жыл бұрын

What we would really like is an answer as to why so many of the colors look identical while having different names. Was there an issue on the bottling end or what? I was going to by the big set, but right now it looks like I'd just be wasting money.

@ccaarrttyy 2 жыл бұрын

Lucas is a really talented artist. That orc looks incredible and it seems it didn’t take him long at all

@GoobertownHobbies 2 жыл бұрын

That Orc turned out niceeeeeeee. Agree with you on the bloody red, that's a definite keeper! :-)

@SquidmarMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын

You turned out niiiice 😘😘

@nowei1930 2 жыл бұрын

Can we get another colab with you two? I suggest a large model painted in grim dark!

@mikemcphil 2 жыл бұрын

Lukas is amazing as always. Definitely picking up some of those vibrant colors. Loved the Orc and whatever the second thing was that he painted. That turquoise is gorgeous. Really liked the yellow on the elves too.

@GandalfGreyPill 2 жыл бұрын

this is the most critical and honest review ive seen for the speedpaints. thank you guys for your blunt honesty. im super excited about snagging myself the big box in march. hoping they do some last minute fixes on some of the issues you guys talked about. but even still, im getting these because $4 a bottle vs $8 contrast pots is worth it. even if a few of the colors leave something to be desired. spilled a pot of black templar contrast the day after i bought it. there is a special place in hell for whoever designed those damn things.

@SquidmarMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын

I def see a bright future for this box, maybe not all paints but i'm very much looking forward to even more paint variants :)

@eetennak966 2 жыл бұрын

The videos are so great. Atmosphere, personalitys, seems good amount of honesty and advertising. Keep it going :)

@woodyrobinson9628 2 жыл бұрын

Your review is greatly appreciated. I just paint to get them on the table, so I'm sure speed paints will help me save time. Thank you so Your painting skillz are fantastic.

@LavedoPlays 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always! I plan on picking up a set to try out. The Orc looked great!

@cgsrtkzsytriul 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review. I use contrast paints mostly for browns to cover areas I painted other colors, and their incredible coverage has always been what I like most

@AshK3tchup 2 жыл бұрын

Squidmar, your and Lucas' passion and enthusiasm for colour is inspiring. Thank you for another excellent video.

@BannisterNicholas 2 жыл бұрын

"Orc" is Gouge: Demon Brute Hunter Hero, His skin has several veins in it, to be painted to really make his muscles pop. the "tongue demon" is Gluttony: Lord of the Demon Side of Limbo: Eternal War, Pledge Manager will open soon so you can grab a copy. check KS for links.

@sleestack2723 2 жыл бұрын

Like you said just another tool! Don’t need a whole line of them just need probably the bigger ones like the black/ grey. Good to see there is a variety of opinions on these!

@SquidmarMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, a few ones to start is good so find your usage for them!

@RoboticDragon 2 жыл бұрын

Man I love when guys add the stuff they use in the videos, in the description, much thanks.

@MarkusMaximus2000 2 жыл бұрын

A nicely balanced review of what looks to be a great tool in the painter's toolbox. It's easy to get tribal over sticking to a paint brand or hating on a company. GW contrast paints does the basics really well imho but top artists such as yourself really unlock the extra potential by experimenting. Thanks for the vid.

@warrenphan2892 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review on the paints and great job on those Limbo Miniatures figures👍

@SinnerJ 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely picking up the mega set. I have backlog of couple of hundred board game miniatures that need to be painted and the results look quite satisfactory.

@marcpoultney5753 2 жыл бұрын

A nice honest review with the good and bad points. I like this!

@MikeBeals 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review, I’ve been planing to pick these up, and since I tend to thin down my contrast to use it as a glaze+recess shade this might be ideal.

@darrenpiper1143 2 жыл бұрын

Really looking forward to these, exactly what I'm after as someone who just wants a decent effect quickly and easily to get them on the tabletop

@SquidmarMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын

They'll be killer for you!

@squidge46 2 жыл бұрын

Excited to try these I have most the modelling kits and tools but not tried the paints.

@christiansebine7316 2 жыл бұрын

Really like the approach you did on these with your method and how honest you are. The models look badass even if it's not for the way you paint guys, amazing!

@Manlio.Cipullo 2 жыл бұрын

the approach is quite useless... If you use paper to check viscosity, why speaking about the color gradient???

@christiansebine7316 2 жыл бұрын

@@Manlio.Cipullo I dont know if I understand your point, I may check again the video for context. By approach I meant that they try the paint the same way they would do with contrast in their painting method to know if it works or not. It seems to work better than contrast with regular brush and worse with airbrush, I think it's great to know

@Manlio.Cipullo 2 жыл бұрын

@@christiansebine7316 I was speaking about the comments on the color gradient and the fact that they stated those looked the same as others from Army Painter lineup... When in that case you must check viscosity and consistency on the paper... Also this kind of product is quite useless in the airbrush, more so if you add airbrush tinner or other paint...

@christiansebine7316 2 жыл бұрын

@@Manlio.Cipullo I see your point now mate! In the case of the flat surfaces as they say you can have a loot of disgusting pooling and you avoid with the airbrush, it may be better if you just use well pigmented inks instead but it looks cool though

@kastork82 2 жыл бұрын

The skin color looks to have the same issue as I had with Guilliman Flesh when zenithal highlighting black with the Titanium White Liquitex Ink - it just looks like it slides off and stains instead of painting color on. Then I realized the finish on Liquitex was reaaaaaally smooth. When I switched to ProAcryl Bold Titanium White, the finish was a bit more chalky and the paint had a lot more chance to "take". I'd love to see how the Speedpaints look on slightly more matte / chalkier white underpaint.

@Pottan23 2 жыл бұрын

They're supposed to be painted onto a matt white udercoat, the white on the corpse in the video looks smooth

@HossDaddy206 2 жыл бұрын

It's fun seeing all the mini painting community try these out right now. Hopefully I can get a set soon also.

@goforitpainting 2 жыл бұрын

I look forward to trying it out.

@TheMrFishnDucks 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to what people do with these new paints. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

@ericjohnson1289 2 жыл бұрын

You guys have taken IKEA paints and managed to make things look amazing...so not surprised that the Speed Paints and you guys still turned out amazing work.

@brockfordjunktion 2 жыл бұрын

Putting them in the hands of a begginer would be a good test. Someone already painting at competition level will likely get good results regardless.

@JustinKase1969 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. It seems like their primary usage is as more of a high contrast wash effect. So maybe more as a basecoat over zenithal shading, then pick out details and highlights later. I am excited to try it out, seems like it will be really good for quick batches for rank and file.

@kevinhayes517 2 жыл бұрын

Great review - very important information, thanks!

@U2HAT 2 жыл бұрын

I love using contrast as a shade or base colour. It feels like painting with numbers and I like that aspect of it.

@Bimbofski 2 жыл бұрын

I like the Minis from Limbo Eternal War :-) That looks great !

@andreslopez2807 2 жыл бұрын

I recently picked up the hobby of assembling/painting minis. I wasn't sure where to start so I picked up some speed paints. I'm used to painting with acrylics on all sort of mediums, so I was curious about these. The tones are okay for the most part, but I noticed I have to brush a few layers to really get the depth I want. I mixed standard acrylic paint with the speed speed and was able to get a more viscous paint, more depth, and needing less to cover the area. It worked great!

@dk292 2 жыл бұрын

Great review. How do they take to being used as a glaze. Can't wait for them to be released so I can mix it with glaze medium

@mastabrn 2 жыл бұрын

You are painting Limbo Eternal War. Great I’ve waited for this so long xD

@harazhangf5782 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the review. It was interesting to see your opinion on it.

@Meuduso1 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta say from what I saw the set looks like a really handy set of washes maybe rather than what I'd use contrast paints for, at least out of the pot. Might pick a few up

@ThroatSore 2 жыл бұрын

Really enjoying my first work with the.

@jorey4565 2 жыл бұрын

Happy New year to all the Squidmar gang and long life to the mini passion !👍❤

@magg0t653 2 жыл бұрын

Haha its funny when they say "If you can do this better then we do" and then they are like the best of the best.. Love your work Squidmar and Lucas!

@rosascreativeworks5403 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing painting. Totally different from anything I do, but wow! 😍💪

@ethanrichards3107 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Squidmar! I just finished watching the video that you have where you go through all of the mini's that you have in backlog. I would love to see you pick a collection and do another 24 hourr paint challenge to see how many you could get through in 24 hours!

@njbolt90 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video explainer! I think I’ll pass on these. I know Contrast are expensive but I’m finding them really useful. Love your Channel.

@thejayb1983 2 жыл бұрын

The orc looks incredible Lucas did a fantastic job!

@foreverfornever1124 2 жыл бұрын

From other reviews, some AP speed paints work better than GW contrast paints, and vice versa. It'd be great to utilize the best of both ranges to produce the best results. You guys should do a paint vid experimenting with both to demonstrate them separately and then together in a combination that allows both paint lines to shine

@TheArmyPainter 2 жыл бұрын

This.

@foreverfornever1124 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheArmyPainter Hey AP! Wow haha. Cant wait to get my hands on this set when I have the chance, quality stuff you got here

@DenethorDurrandir 2 жыл бұрын

I've been wanting to paint a Thousand sons army for the longest time, it looks like the blue from this range would be perfect for it, time to save the video and make a mental note

@VJMorph 2 жыл бұрын

Opening with "Sponsored by Fart Quest" I was not expecting that.

@mansad143 2 жыл бұрын

I think that's crazy cause I just got mine and my skin color absolutely killed it and my browns looked very different. I did use brush and I agree with the thoughts on red and the fact the flow more like a wash.

@kgordon7209 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see you guys take a look at Tamiya clear coats. I like to put down a basic metalic coat and then cover it with one of the clear coats. I love the smoke for guns and armor. The colored coats like red, orange, and blue are cool for a novelty look on metal or gems. I have heard they can be used in an air brush but I don't own one so I cannot vouch for that. These paints have been popular for years with people who do model vehicles. I wonder what cool stuff you guys could do with them. Another thing to look at would be the dipping technique using different polyurethane stains or other products. I would like to see someone with a channel like yours do an episode like that. I've used it with mixed results. Put down a bright base coat on a fairly detailed model. Then dip it, shake it off and remove excess stain with a cotton swab. anyway, I just discovered and binge watched you channel. I love it and will go back and watch some of these episodes a few times.

@Dreoni_ 2 жыл бұрын

Finally some proper testing and criticism!

@johnimal1 2 жыл бұрын

I can't wait to get these paints. I think a big problem with any artist is when they find something they. Love they find it hard to let go and always compare things back to their love. I wonder if you would get on better if you 1. Gave it more time and testing, you love contrast as you are used to that medium and can work around its flaws , and 2. Go into testing and using the speed paints as a new fun thing where you just play and experiment and not compare and try and get it to do what other paints may or may not do. It's a hard thing to do as we humans love to compare things.

@odinswolf1969 2 жыл бұрын

I'm bursting to try these, I've had good+bad results with contrast paints and want to see how they compare

@matthewchecketts2598 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man, good review but do you have any thoughts on the reactivation issue thats recently came to light? AP are now suggesting people clear seal between coats which doesnt sound speedy...

@seancady3813 2 жыл бұрын

I always considered contrast paints to be a "wash with a lot of color." So I'm curious to try the speed paints for myself.

@franciscoquiroz5628 2 жыл бұрын

I have tons of minis from various board games that I think these are perfect for. For the rest of my minis these will likely be case-by-case use.

@oliviera.5083 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for painting those Limbo Eternal Wars minis, looks great. I am waiting to see more paintjob on those minis. The Pledge Manager of their last kickstarter should open very soon.

@BrianKelly_LettheGamesBegin 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see that someone else recognized the Limbo figures! Gluttony came out the best from above (though that flesh tone…yeah…).

@markjohnsvideos 2 жыл бұрын

they need to sell those as stl!

@nucnuc7591 2 жыл бұрын

@@BrianKelly_LettheGamesBegin I am eagerly waiting for my Oblivion pledge to arrive this year (hopefully). These minis really look awesome (and I most definitely won´t go for an orcish style for the demon Gouge)

@russellspencer3214 2 жыл бұрын

Unless you're an unapologetic paint snob they look just fine for getting paint on minis and minis on the table.

@jtowensbyiii6018 2 жыл бұрын

Thats true of all paint and helps no one

@nf5397 2 жыл бұрын

Great review!

@Jokreher 2 жыл бұрын

My friend is hyped for these while I’m moving to using oil paints.

@alecmiller5296 2 жыл бұрын

I like army painter paints and I’ll die on this hill

@saltworth2570 2 ай бұрын

First brand I ever got before watching any tutorials or knowing about this whole community, still none of the others i tried came even close tbh.

@jeandavias7544 2 жыл бұрын

Good review, honest and balanced !

@ryolacap Жыл бұрын

I am waiting for some vallejo paint and I am wondering if mixing the quick paint with the same color in a thicker paint may give you control and a one coat paint all in one....maybe a 50/50 mix of the 2...I will try an see

@dand1789 2 жыл бұрын

Thx for your opinion.Helps always to have more different view angles.

@chaos6106 2 жыл бұрын

That green looks amazing

@markgnepper5636 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff friend 👏 👍

@DarrinSK 2 жыл бұрын

I really just cant wait for these to finally be for sale somewhere.

@paintssinners 2 жыл бұрын

Army Painter should be thanksful for this video... Its the first time Ive seen these colors used with an impressive result, great job!

@TheArmyPainter 2 жыл бұрын

We are!

@Sinreal 2 жыл бұрын

Dana Howl's airbrush results were nice as well

@PMMagro 2 жыл бұрын

The airbrushed models look awesome.

@nifela 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how your painting styles and skills would translate to more finely detailed minis - like from Infinity for example

@mischkagusta1622 2 жыл бұрын

Time for a "Best Palette" Video in witch you put together a full palette of different tones, always picking your favorite from the different ranges

@shay4232 2 жыл бұрын

one thing i love about speed paint bottles i would honestly pay more for is for all my dropper bottles to come standard with a small mixing stone inside to make shaking it the most time effecient and effective method

@MoonDoggie 2 жыл бұрын

not gonna lie going straight into the video with "sponsored by fart quest" was so funny I almost died from choking on my water

@spacebarsamurai1 2 жыл бұрын

For all the videos I have watch I enjoy that criticism more in this video. I think at the end of the day it more arrows for our quiver and there will be some stand outs paint and some disappointing ones just like with contrasts paints.

@SquidmarMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@AmongRocks 2 жыл бұрын

I think you meant low viscosity. Viscosity is resistance in a liquid. So high viscosity is like slow flowing lava

@tommyakesson8858 2 жыл бұрын

I like how Contrast paint got pretty much pooped on by all of KZfaq when it launched. And then people started to experiment and get great results. I bought ny first a few weeks back and use the uh... "Wychwood bark"? with a regular brush on leather details. And it workd great. It dries with ready edge highlights. I mean ofc you can work more in it. But its covers well and looks pretty decent after just one layer, so then you can do a bit more work and BAM.

@stephenspackman5573 2 жыл бұрын

Or when Scale75 said that Instant isn't the same as Contrast, watch the video, and then it was released and everyone said “you tricked us, this isn't the same as Contrast”. 95% of people are just mad as a sandwich sandwich sandwich.

@KabinMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting comparison to the Contrast paints. Since they don't seem to behave exactly the same, it's nice to have options.

@apinakapinastorba 2 жыл бұрын

Until now most of the reviews been synthetic tests. Nice to see some real painting, that’s what matters.

@schaaf9637 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video!

@coffeyhouseproductions2293 2 жыл бұрын

I'm just now learning how to use an airbrush. I've watched your videos on tips and tricks for beginners but I just can't seem to figure it out. The main thing is - how do you make them not look so flat? Like that orc looks so detailed and layered and vibrant and even when I use different shades, my pieces end up looking so flat and dull.

@theminipaintingnoob 2 жыл бұрын

Videos like this one inspired me to get a starter kit of Speedpaint and begin my painting journey. I created this channel to share my experience with everyone. Hope you enjoy it! 😀

@carsoncrook702 2 жыл бұрын

You guys should use Epic Basing plants on the manta diorama!

@thesykoward8188 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Lots of good review here. But where is that Orc from? I need one!

@SquidmarMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын

Limbo

@nerfbutt 11 ай бұрын

I recently filmed a game session and wanted to use miniatures that were all painted. A couple of my featured monster figures had not been painted yet and I didn't have time to do them in acrylic. I tried Speedpaints for the first time and used them in the spirit of the name. SPEED. I blasted through two figures in short order and got them good enough for video with minimal effort. I still prefer acrylics top to bottom, but these have their place. The samples painted in this video look nice.

@jamesloder8652 2 жыл бұрын

It was difficult to control because of its LOW viscosity, not its high viscosity as you said at the end.

@alexanderfoust6127 2 жыл бұрын

Honest question: how long to you spend on each of these minis? They are incredible

@edarsmith2579 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely getting book for my son

@gorkamorka999 2 жыл бұрын

"We tried to use it like X, but it's not X". Very insightful. Definitely worth an 8min video.

@LemurKrazy 2 жыл бұрын

Dana Howl's brush painting tests seem to look slightly better than contrast. Another non mini line are Ammo Shaders that are designed for airbrush use.

@MrSkell2U 2 жыл бұрын

Still waiting to see the rest of that manta project! Haha

@zanmatoshin877 2 жыл бұрын

Hmm. I generally airbrush a greyscale to paint out the light (is this zenithal?). Would this be a good paint to use over that? Or is contrast better? Currently just using 2-3 coats of citadel washes over airbrush base..

@VerhoevenSimon 2 жыл бұрын

They seem very much like an addition to your toolset, rather than an adaptation to contrast. I hope to pick up some flesh coloured ones.

@Uncle_Geo 2 жыл бұрын

It seems a lot of us had the same takeaway. I definitely agree.

@leonidas231 2 жыл бұрын

Have any videos on painting Tyranids? saw this AMAZING scheme but its looks complicated

@andrewbeeching1240 2 жыл бұрын

Help!! Re: Zealot Yellow - for me, it wicked UP channels in the mini adjacent to where I was painting it (like, the inside lining of a coat where it meets the body). Even when I removed most of the paint from the brush first it still wicked a small line upwards - against gravity - for about 8-9mm, and also spread out over an already-painted patch adjacent to where I was painting. How have you found it in this regard? I've used the Maguc Blue as well, and that's performs perfectly on the same undercoat, with same amount of shaking.

@GettinJiggly 2 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking these will be great for us in the board game hobby. Will be a quick way to improve the generic tabletop minis we get in the box. Curious how these will work over the plain plastic, since some are already colored, guess you could just do a quick varnish on it then use these.

@dlh567 2 жыл бұрын

It's interesting, I didn't get the feeling that the colors looked the same in the tests done by Watch It Paint It, but they were doing the all over, 1 heavy coat approach.

@lokepoke1337 2 жыл бұрын

Those paints look really good. I heard that they can reactivate even when fully dried.

@olahaldor Жыл бұрын

I have never painted anything. I just printed a house and wanted to try it, bought a primer spray can and the speed paint kit. I understand what you say about viscosity, other than that I have no other reference. So I found this very interesting. I wouldn't know anything about the contrast paints, but you got me curious. I haven't searched through your profile, but perhaps you or someone who follow you know if there's a "how to get started" or "tips for beginners" among your videos?

@Anecron1 2 жыл бұрын

Are all those paints just as saturated as the green and red? Is there any way to just using the paints in the set to make more natural greens and browns?