The Truth about Chara

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Spiffy

Spiffy

4 ай бұрын

In this video I talk about Chara from Undertale, throughout the years Chara has been portrayed as a villain within the community. However I have always felt like Chara was not a villain. In this video I talk about why Chara was at least at the start of Undertale not the monster people thought they were.
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To clear up some stuff, the genocide route mirrors in Toriel's home and New Home show how the narrator is Chara. In the pacifist route the line "despite everything it's still you" is Chara talking to frisk. This at the very least show that Chara and Frisk are linked, and Chara not being the narrator wouldn't make sense. If the narrator was just a simple narrator then the narrator wouldn't call themselves Chara.
Meanwhile Chara died due to the plan for Asriel to get the souls needed to break the barrier. Along with this Chara was siblings with Asriel and lived with the King and Queen. Chara seemed to care about monsters, if they died to help monsters go free then they wouldn't at the same time be trying to kill monsters.
This is where I believe Chara and Frisk get stronger at the same time because Chara for one shouldn't be strong enough at the end of Undertale to destroy the entire World/Universe. When you "Level" up in Undertale you start becoming more immune to the pain from killing someone, and it makes you easy to kill more without feeling bad. So it would make sense that Chara would be up for killing monsters if they have been forced to get "stronger" with Frisk. This is why at the end of the Genocide route Chara just wants to get stronger along with destroying everything.
Meanwhile for the Kris being Chara? yeahhhh alright I might as well explain that....
I know that for some people it will be an obvious "oh yeah Kris is Chara" and for some people it's like "Spiffy wtf Kris is their own person" and both of those are valid. However their are so many shared factors both Chara and Kris have that make me have a very hard time thinking that Kris isn't just Deltaruns own version of Chara. Being adopted by the Dreemurs, brother to Asriel, like knives and chocolate, wear almost the same shirt and pants with nearly the same hair.....like guys cmon-
Anyways this is just me explaining a bit more about this video because I wanted to fully explain my thought process on these theories, I know some people will disagree with me. If you disagree with me please don't get mad, because after all
Some of the Genocide footage is from ‪@SmashMaxLP‬ check out his channel!
It's just a theory, a Game Theory! Thanks for watching ^^
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@AtlasTorment
@AtlasTorment 4 ай бұрын
That's right. Chara wasn't evil, and didn't kill all those monsters. YOU did. The whole "With your guidance-" makes it clear that Chara was just learning from what the player did.
@_StarlightRose_
@_StarlightRose_ 4 ай бұрын
in fact, Chara killed 3 peopole in the entire geno route sans(debatable), Asgore, and Flowey
@samiel2244
@samiel2244 4 ай бұрын
@@_StarlightRose_I’m not sure about sans and asgore tho but maybe it did kill flowey but why tho?
@-NotSomeone-
@-NotSomeone- 4 ай бұрын
@@samiel2244 you don't use Fight so its chara and not us
@Magma-Idiot-2001
@Magma-Idiot-2001 4 ай бұрын
​​@@_StarlightRose_Flowey killed Asgore, Chara just viciously injured him. But they definitely are directly responsible for Flowey and Sans' death.
@_StarlightRose_
@_StarlightRose_ 4 ай бұрын
@@Magma-Idiot-2001 true, true I say debatable for sans, as the sound effect that plays is not the one when a monster dies, but the battle ending one so we don't know if he actually died So really, Chara officially killed one person in the entire route
@Xellerator101
@Xellerator101 4 ай бұрын
I think what people don’t get is that Chara wasn’t the best person they were flawed, BUT SO IS EVERY OTHER CHARACTER IN UNDERTALE. the whole point of the game is the look past all them and see the good people hidden within them, if Toby Fox just made Chara to be “oh yeah the super evil phyco girl” would literally be destroying the message of the game
@shellpoptheepicswordmaster755
@shellpoptheepicswordmaster755 4 ай бұрын
Or boi
@Person76439
@Person76439 4 ай бұрын
That isn't even the message of the game lol
@theonewhocaredandasked9126
@theonewhocaredandasked9126 4 ай бұрын
Message of the game is kill everyone and see how it turns out
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
Fr And so many people just throw that aside just for the sake of worshipping Sans and making more stupid AUs of him
@resumethyvideo7631
@resumethyvideo7631 4 ай бұрын
We don’t think they’re evil we just use them as a villain because they are scary demon child who jumpscares you. We can’t use asgore (he’s too sympathetic), we can’t use flowey (he gets humiliated by us in genocide) and we can’t use frisk because that would waste the potential of their character. Edit: also just because you don’t like a certain artist/writer’s interpretation of a character doesn’t mean it shouldn’t exist and if you do you are literally gatekeeping stories from existing just because you think the canon counterparts are superior. Creativity is this fandoms biggest strength and you wish to stifle it.
@TheRealUNGOC
@TheRealUNGOC 4 ай бұрын
2016 Undertale Fandom misCHARActerization starterpack: > Overly-sexualized anime-girl Frisk > Edgy as fuck Sans (will destroy the Universe if Papyrus gets a bruise) > Asgore = Satan > Chara = evil incarnate (also overly sexualized anime girl) > Alphys? Who the fuck is that?
@UJDdustadusta
@UJDdustadusta 4 ай бұрын
Don't forget the papyrus being too innocent and that he eats spaghetti thing
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
Omg I hate how mistreated the undertale characters are like guys cmon-
@UJDdustadusta
@UJDdustadusta 4 ай бұрын
@@Spiffy131 True
@TheRealUNGOC
@TheRealUNGOC 4 ай бұрын
@@Spiffy131 and then there's Alphys who literally ceases to exist in AUs
@user-xj3wy7qc9g
@user-xj3wy7qc9g 4 ай бұрын
Don’t forget: Alphys? Don’t you mean Gaster?
@xeno_program4708
@xeno_program4708 3 ай бұрын
A little fact is that the "Worn Dagger" is practically the "Real Knife", just changing form at LV 19, Both are Chara's, being the same weapon.
@GoatHerder0
@GoatHerder0 4 ай бұрын
I find it kind of funny that the vast majority of us misunderstood the game calling us out and punishing us for our actions as “you didn’t do it, this child did”. I am definitely guilty of this and find it kind of funny how many of us got it wrong initially, and then realized a year or two later what was actually happening. Chara has actually become one of my favorite characters because of how interesting their story is for a character we only see once in the whole game.
@CR1MSONACE
@CR1MSONACE 4 ай бұрын
What if the real us was this child we found at the end of the way?
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
That's cuz Toby Fox portrayed Chara rather inconsistently.
@mrinsomniac2968
@mrinsomniac2968 4 ай бұрын
@@maila319 oh my goodddd stfuuuu just accept you killed everybody and dont blame it on a CHILDDDD
@jorgeabdielalejandrochavar650
@jorgeabdielalejandrochavar650 Ай бұрын
That's because Chara and the player share the same name because Chara is supposed to represent the player to a certain degree though not the same entity, i'd like to think it's because of that misunderstood rather than just because they decided to blame Chara out of nowhere
@YDBHpoTheIllegal
@YDBHpoTheIllegal 25 күн бұрын
And also they said about Chara destroying universe. 'End this pointless world and move onto next.' could mean they want us to do other route. Chara slash the screen in attempt in deleting the game as in making the player couldn't reset and do genocide again because we're the one in control(as in having control), sorry for bad eng
@Thefirstfallenhuman.
@Thefirstfallenhuman. 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I hate humanity, NOT monsters. I also kinda hate myself.
@cutethegamer2136
@cutethegamer2136 4 ай бұрын
It's conformed omg
@papermr.magolorguy7957
@papermr.magolorguy7957 4 ай бұрын
You should love yourself. ^^
@dylanhudec979
@dylanhudec979 4 ай бұрын
And no one cares about you ^^
@Red-fella
@Red-fella 4 ай бұрын
With real love not L.O.V.E.
@dachemistofx1667
@dachemistofx1667 4 ай бұрын
* insert HighTierRalsei speech (aka: Love Yourself, you serve all purpose, you deserve everything, love yourself now or smth like that)
@bhaveshsain2932
@bhaveshsain2932 4 ай бұрын
SANS: megalo-- chara: strike back
@RALSEIDAGAMERRRRR
@RALSEIDAGAMERRRRR 4 ай бұрын
FINALLY A PERSON WHO DOESNT BLAME THEM FOR OUR ACTIONS
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@Person76439
@Person76439 4 ай бұрын
Chara Defenders make up the majority of the fandom. This isn't a unique case at all.
@maincraf-yk5qq
@maincraf-yk5qq 4 ай бұрын
@@Person76439 Well, they do NOW- Yes, I'm looking at you pre-2022 undertale community
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
​​​​​​@@maincraf-yk5qqYou mean pre-2017 as ever since the Judgement Boy Chara video was uploaded on youtube, Chara defenders grew and made up the majority of the UT fandom. I am not saying Chara is pure evil but the fanbase crucifies anyone who has an opinion on Chara other than "pure good" nor "morally grey".
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
@@maila319 Nah The JB video didn't have an immediate effect + old fierce Sans fans still kept doing their stuff, albeit taking Chara-Cide out of their view for the most part. And they are still diong it till this day(eg. Underverse, fangames etc) And don't forget how COS become a thing
@mina_netty
@mina_netty 4 ай бұрын
I think Canon Chara has a mischievous streak and like Kris enjoys chocolates, and has interest in knives, is best friends with their brother, and likes to prank/tease others and their brother sometimes. And loves monsters but hates humanity. They were a little like Susie too. *But got corrupted do to our genocides.*
@splinter6322
@splinter6322 4 ай бұрын
THEY REMEMBER OUR'RE GENOCIDES
@NovaAeternus
@NovaAeternus 4 ай бұрын
human.... i remember you're genocides...
@stars4772
@stars4772 4 ай бұрын
More like their determination got corrupted
@iamcat1797
@iamcat1797 4 ай бұрын
@@NovaAeternusoh thank you. Most people don’t remember my Identity.
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
@@stars4772 I mean, they are just some old af *DETERMINATION* at this point So that makes sense
@Thorumsu
@Thorumsu 4 ай бұрын
Undertale Players: Goes out of their way to kill every last monster they can find just to see what happens. Also Undertale Players: Why did Chara make me do this??
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
Chara isn't good nor morally grey either. They just lack the concept of morality.
@ElectricPikachu64
@ElectricPikachu64 2 ай бұрын
​@@maila319 precisely
@averageyoutubehandle497
@averageyoutubehandle497 2 ай бұрын
​@@maila319 they literally share all of the traits of severe aspd or even sadistic personality disorder. That means they either dont have morals at all or they actively enjoys other pain and suffering.
@averageyoutubehandle497
@averageyoutubehandle497 2 ай бұрын
​@@maila319 Chara literally could be medically diagnosed with sadistic personality disorder - She shares symptoms with sadistic Personality disorder as based on the dsm 3: According to the DSM-III-R diagnostic criteria Sadistic personality disorder is defined by a pervasive pattern of sadistic and cruel behavior that begins in early adulthood. It was defined by four of the following. 1.Has used physical cruelty or violence for the purpose of establishing dominance in a relationship (not merely to achieve some noninterpersonal goal, such as striking someone in order to rob him/her). 2.Humiliates or demeans people in the presence of others. 3.Has treated or disciplined someone under his/her control unusually harshly. 4.Is amused by, or takes pleasure in, the psychological or physical suffering of others (including animals). 5.Has lied for the purpose of harming or inflicting pain on others (not merely to achieve some other goal). 6.Gets other people to do what he/she wants by frightening them (through intimidation or even terror). 7.Restricts the autonomy of people with whom he or she has a close relationship, e.g., will not let spouse leave the house unaccompanied or permit teenage daughter to attend social functions. 8.Is fascinated by violence, weapons, injury, or torture. Chara fits categories 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, and could be debated to fit 7 because she literally leaves you in a black screen for 10 minutes, and it could be debated it's a close relationship (from her pov) because she calls you "partner". The required minimum to diagnose is 4 and she fits 6/7. Also She doesn't fit the categories of aspd, or se*ual sadism disorder which is a requirement to be diagnosed with sadistic personality disorder. (Just making my argument 100% undebatable)
@jorgeabdielalejandrochavar650
@jorgeabdielalejandrochavar650 Ай бұрын
​@@maila319that's the most accurate description for Chara, bravo
@ComikaSans
@ComikaSans 4 ай бұрын
The undertale community has been working to undo all the old fanon stuff from 2015-2019-ish. Like we are getting rid of the old fanon sans stuff, and are starting to handle the lore more accurately. Chara is also a good example of this.
@ComikaSans
@ComikaSans 3 ай бұрын
@jimmy-xv2dc look on r/undertale. Its more obvious there
@abhikergaming7783
@abhikergaming7783 29 күн бұрын
What do you mean by that?? Sans might not be some edgy character but he's still a depressed and just overall sad guy. As for Chara I personally think both sides are right on this topic and it's more about which side you're on, because let's be honest there's a lot of speculation and interpretation for Charas actions and deeds
@ComikaSans
@ComikaSans 28 күн бұрын
@@abhikergaming7783 i never said he wasnt a depressed or sad guy lol, just that he isnt the type to start crying n stuff, he keeps everything personal, and most def processes his emotions internally, you wont see him cry, even when paps dies hes more pissed at you than anything, while hes probably moreso crying on the inside. also the chara stuff is mostly up to interperetation as we dont have alotta info abt them
@abhikergaming7783
@abhikergaming7783 27 күн бұрын
@@ComikaSans I actually agree with you
@knoxthecat8051
@knoxthecat8051 27 күн бұрын
frans is still around.. 🤮🤮🤮
@zeo4481
@zeo4481 4 ай бұрын
Chara: (Literally kills themselves to free all of monsterkind) The UT community: ,,Haha evil Chara go BRRR"
@NOTaNaBC
@NOTaNaBC 4 ай бұрын
Don't forget that they did this also in order to take revenge on humans (from Asriel we know that Chara hated humanity, and that they wanted to kill people, but Asriel did not allow it). In addition, Chara was a problem child (which can be found out by watching tapes in the true laboratory)
@undyne4032
@undyne4032 4 ай бұрын
​@@NOTaNaBCNo, plan was to take six other souls, when monsters attack Asriel only then Chara wants Asriel to defend himself, but Asriel refuses... Remember Chara committing suicide, only for Asriel to absorb their soul wasn't something known, yes humans knew that combining both souls will create powerful being, but nobody knew how exactly will that work, what if concious mind of Chara in the moment of absorbtion of their soul would vanished, that's why Chara told everything about the plan, because Chara don't exactly know what will happen, but still Chara will remains, the same as Asriel's, they can communicate, Chara doesn't talk about killing humans, only after they attack Asriel, they beg Asriel to defend them Chara isn't the greatest person, but they are not that evil, missguided absolutely, depressed indeed, but they are also loving, they love monsters and would give their life for them to be free
@Person76439
@Person76439 4 ай бұрын
@@undyne4032 There is no evidence they were loving
@undyne4032
@undyne4032 4 ай бұрын
@@Person76439 would you sacrifice your life, so other people could be free? If that's not loving I don't know what is.
@Person76439
@Person76439 4 ай бұрын
@@undyne4032 1. No, they didn't sacrifice their life, they had their soul absorbed into Asriel so they could share control of the body. 2. Chara's motives were to get revenge on humanity. There's no evidence they cared for the monsters.
@mega7979
@mega7979 4 ай бұрын
thank god someone finaly pointed out. in undertale, YOU are the villan, YOU killed everyone. Chara is more of a pacifist then frisk at this point. Chara in the genocide route only wants to finish what you started.
@keikoiskeiki
@keikoiskeiki 4 ай бұрын
over-analysis on Chara, sign me up! Great video and totally agree with the narrative you put place for chara, still find it weird why we make Chara such a big bad guy when they’re just a kid lol.
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! :0 I’m glad you agree with my thoughts on this, I spent awhile trying to piece all my thoughts together on this one haha, yea I always thought saying chara was evil was a bit fishy (after typing this there’s prolly someway to make this an undyne pun but oh well) anyways thanks again!
@RALSEIDAGAMERRRRR
@RALSEIDAGAMERRRRR 4 ай бұрын
@@Spiffy131 omg yes someone who isnt a jerk and admits that we kill them all not chara
@Agueybana1978
@Agueybana1978 4 ай бұрын
It's likely that we, as a society, have a bad tendency to find or make problems, some of us find a scapegoat to push all of our problems on.
@Person76439
@Person76439 4 ай бұрын
@@Agueybana1978 This is a strawman argument. Nobody is "pushing the blame" on Chara, they are holding Chara accountable for the things they chose to do to assist us.
@Agueybana1978
@Agueybana1978 4 ай бұрын
@@Person76439 Who says Chara consented? I know Chara isn't a great person, but I doubt they are an outright monster.
@Frisk133.
@Frisk133. 4 ай бұрын
I like to think that Chara ain't either evil or good they're just neutral they don't care about whatever you as a player do if it's good or bad or whatever they just don't care since they're soulless they don't care about anything or anyone they're neutral they're fine if you kill everyone and they're fine if you don't or whatever you do and that's the accurate representation of a human in UT. And frisk is the reincarnation of Chara as unlike Kris frisk/Chara won't care about whether the player controls them or not
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
That's way to nihilistic and it's not even fitting into the canon
@MinorLife10
@MinorLife10 Ай бұрын
I think that nihilistic and apathetic Chara is rather their postmortal persona. After all, Flowey is also really nihiilistic having no soul left. I think that Chara did care about a lot when they were alive.
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 Ай бұрын
@@MinorLife10 True, but even soulless beings can still have an emotional attachment of sorts Generally speaking: the only difference between fully alive and soulless is that soulless can't feel love, empathy or remorse. The only thing driving them is *DETERMINATION* They can still consciously want to be with someone
@GospodinWolf
@GospodinWolf Ай бұрын
That's...just the canon Chara. Can't believe i haven't seen this comment before. You have my respect.
@jjcooldude9700
@jjcooldude9700 4 ай бұрын
Chara is also soulless,similar to Flowey. They lost their soul after Asriel died with it. Flowey literally says this,and he was WITH them when they both died. He of all people would know this. “You’re not human,are you?” “You’re empty inside,just like me.” “Infact.” “You’re Chara,aren’t you?” And then he wonders why the hell he’s cut down by “Chara” A bit hypocritical if you ask me,he should have figured since he’s in a similar situation. If you complete a genocide route twice,Chara will say “this SOUL resonates with a strange feeling.” “I cannot understand these feelings anymore.” What feeling do SOULS help you feel? Empathy. Compassion. The “Chara” you see at the end of genocide is just a soulless shell of the chara ASRIEL knew. Flowey would jump at the chance to erase the world,hell he DID with omega flowey. But would ASRIEL? No. Can’t we say the same for Chara?
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
This is a VERY good point 👀
@dylanhudec979
@dylanhudec979 4 ай бұрын
That’s pretty much agony
@UnoriginalJokester
@UnoriginalJokester 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Flowey would jump at the chance to erase the world. In the present day. But when he first woke up, he used his powers for good. He solved everyone's problems & became friends with them. It was only after he did everything else that he decided to start killing to see what happens, and THEN he became sadistic. We can't say the same for Chara because they decided to help us kill as soon as they woke up.
@jjcooldude9700
@jjcooldude9700 4 ай бұрын
@@UnoriginalJokester the reason Chara becomes that way,is because of what Spiffy says in the video. LV makes you more aggressive. Flowey just got bored and grew more insane over time. LV made Chara more numb to killing,having no SOUL did not help with that.
@UnoriginalJokester
@UnoriginalJokester 4 ай бұрын
@@jjcooldude9700 Chara helped us & started looking for knives as little as LV 3. Meanwhile, they have no signs of even showing up in a neutral route at LV 17.
@mwwill5465
@mwwill5465 4 ай бұрын
As a Chara main in VRChat, I have to deal with a lot of Sans on a daily basis. "Is that a Chara? Lets kill it!" They say, every time... Got used to it but very annoying.
@bababooey5402
@bababooey5402 4 ай бұрын
That's even misinterpreting Sans, let alone Chara. Sans absolutely would *_NOT_* just randomly pick a fight; only thing he's picking is a place to nap, a joke to crack, a prank to pull, etc. May I remind everyone that Sans more than likely only fights Frisk out of obligation. Any other route, he barely lifts a finger, even after his brother dies.
@goodboi6329
@goodboi6329 4 ай бұрын
Chara main
@oranjaglad8648
@oranjaglad8648 4 ай бұрын
@@bababooey5402Also, does Sans even know who Chara is? At best I’d imagine him just knowing they were the royal family’s adoptive kid.
@iamcat1797
@iamcat1797 4 ай бұрын
@@oranjaglad8648I know right. Same with Kris deltaruin fan are always like “Chara is trying to hurt Kris” and I’m sitting here like “they don’t even live in the same universe.”
@bababooey5402
@bababooey5402 4 ай бұрын
@@oranjaglad8648 I'm not even sure he knows that far; he might not've ever cared to research the king/queen. He might not even know they had a proper child.
@ZKDVoid
@ZKDVoid 4 ай бұрын
FINALLY someone else figured it out ive been saying this forever kris/and chara are alternate versions of each other for more similarities they both have a reoccurring theme of taking control from the player and both were most likely given up on by their human parents one way or another. If we get evidence that Kris has some distain for humanity its pretty much confirmed and nothing will sway me.
@UnoriginalJokester
@UnoriginalJokester 4 ай бұрын
There actually is. When looking at a book in the library, the game describes it having pictures of humans inside, and Kris shuts the book quickly after seeing them.
@DaHypnotik
@DaHypnotik 4 ай бұрын
I personally think that Kris really is just a mix of Chara AND Frisk. Sure, Spiffy said that the only thing Kris has going for Frisk is skin color. Ain't gonna lie, that's completely incorrect. Yes, Kris and Chara share their liking of chocolate, knives, and clothing, yet there are also certain aspects of Kris that differ from Charas'. Kris as said before shares similar skin color. What I found intresting is that Spiffy said that Kris's hair is similar to Charas. To that I have to disagree, it more resembles Frisks seeing that it's also the same color. Not only that, Chara is known for being talkative, in which Frisk really just isn't. The only time we really see Frisk speak is during battles or if there's a needed answer outside of one. Kris is also a pretty quiet kid even made evident after talking to Noelle in chapter 1 and selecting "Anything". She responds saying if Kris is okay seeing that they're not usually so talkative. And it's not them selecting that, it's US, same thing with Frisk, we control Frisk just like Kris. Though.. Kris has shown that they're well capable of just denying our control. Which Chara also seems to be passionate about...... Damn I'm really speaking against myself here arent I? ANYWAYS there's also Kris being a victim of bullying which I doubt Chara would just let that slide. They'd put up one hell of a fight if anything seeing how dominant Chara has shown to be, which Kris has never really done. Alright, but to put it simply Kris definitely has some personality traits that both of them share, not just looks.
@ZKDVoid
@ZKDVoid 4 ай бұрын
@@DaHypnotik going to your “bullying” point I believe that this is actually another reason why Chara and kris are the same. We know that chara hates humanity and climbed mt ebott for suicidal reasons. This is strongly hinted toward some type of mistreatment from other humans whether it be his parents or peers or even both. And obviously at the time they arent strong at all theyre a child. So they’ve no other choice than to “let it slide”
@ZKDVoid
@ZKDVoid 4 ай бұрын
@@UnoriginalJokester interesting, but i think this is more of simply being uncomfortable since he grew up only with monsters. But maybe it is some distain. In any case if its true its 100% confirmed not even a head canon its too many similarities to be debated imo.
@DaHypnotik
@DaHypnotik 4 ай бұрын
@@ZKDVoid that's.. actually a good point. I was looking at it from Kris's side tho. Since Kris was a victim of bullying to Susie, which is a monster. Regardless, didn't think of it that way. Toby really did one hell of a job giving us theorists one hell of a headache lmao.
@SansINess53
@SansINess53 4 ай бұрын
Chara is a normal kid (they arent the kindiest being but they can show that to other
@Jojo_Does_Thingz
@Jojo_Does_Thingz 4 ай бұрын
Yes, chara is not evil. This is because she is actually a reincarnation of famous singer Glen Cambell trying to promote a new album from beyond the grave. I learned this after discovering a new route in undertale by killing exactly 7 monsters and going to Sans' lab, where it is revealed that Glen Campbell actually planned a secret last album collabing with famous musicians Toby Fox, Lena Raine, and the band Jamiroquai. You can trust me on this, i have at least 4 minutes of play time in undertale, as well as a doctorate in Deltarune Lore Analysis, so I'm pretty much an expert in this field.
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
Chara goes by they/them (I’m pretty sure) and also…wha- what are you yappin about Jo…..
@Jojo_Does_Thingz
@Jojo_Does_Thingz 4 ай бұрын
@Spiffy131 Facts and logic. Also, I did not know chara was using they/them. Kinda easy to gloss over that kind of stuff when you get this deep in the lore puddle.
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
@@Jojo_Does_Thingz that’s fair, also I expect a response video of your own theory about how the famous singer Glen Cambell is in Undertale
@Jojo_Does_Thingz
@Jojo_Does_Thingz 4 ай бұрын
@@Spiffy131 Challenge accepted. Will publish a response within 8-12 business months.
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
@@Jojo_Does_Thingz I’ll be looking forward to it.
@filipisagamer8144
@filipisagamer8144 4 ай бұрын
Short answer: Chara and Frisk are basicly late Snowgrave Noelle
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
Chara Frisk is player character like Kris And Chara goes way further than SG Noelle could ever hope to
@Su_tarman6-Bio
@Su_tarman6-Bio 4 ай бұрын
❤*Thanks for covering this topic.
@Abraham_the_pierra
@Abraham_the_pierra 4 ай бұрын
the CDS(Chara Defense Squad) aproves of this video
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@User_P1nk
@User_P1nk 4 ай бұрын
I'm part of it, and I can confirm.
@coolDude-sx6we
@coolDude-sx6we 4 ай бұрын
Same, why is the COS (Chara Offense Squad) always so insane with their hate for Chara lol
@Person76439
@Person76439 4 ай бұрын
@@coolDude-sx6we The COS subreddit is incredibly reasonable with their claims. The only insane ones are the Chara Defenders lmao
@Abraham_the_pierra
@Abraham_the_pierra Ай бұрын
​1​@@Person76439* loads gun*
@GospodinWolf
@GospodinWolf 4 ай бұрын
Quick canon review of Chara in Undertale : as a human, they are a venegful child, whose wish is to take their revenge on humanity. "Chara" at the end of Genocide route is a soulless creature that looks up to Player's actions, whatever these are, and learns how to become powerful. So that's it. Yeah. That summs up the whole video. It is quite stupid to see Chara as a villain, but it is also stupid to not see "Chara" as not evil, since they have been taught to get power through evil deeds from the Player. You guys are no fun anymore.
@lod4246
@lod4246 4 ай бұрын
Literally Cassidy
@GospodinWolf
@GospodinWolf 4 ай бұрын
@@lod4246 Yeah
@bluevines1303
@bluevines1303 Ай бұрын
Wow someone understands NUANCE that's a first on this plane of hell we call the Internet
@A13x_666
@A13x_666 4 ай бұрын
finally someone understands. this is exactly what i say about chara also, just imagine getting to LV 20 and stabbing the ground to destroy the universe wait, stabbing the ground... just like Kris does to make the dark fountain. hold on, i just made a theory while typing this...
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
Chara didn't stab the ground, they slashed in the air, as if attacking someone
@wildberrysherbert3803
@wildberrysherbert3803 4 ай бұрын
@@narrativeless404 They didn't attack the air. They were attacking YOU
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
@@wildberrysherbert3803 That's still pretty much the same "YOU" isn't a physical object in their world
@Frozen_Shedinja
@Frozen_Shedinja 4 ай бұрын
I just normally thought that Chara was a representation of the player in the events of Undertale, they share whatever you put the name as, as an example.
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
The name thing isn't even canon, but just a game mechanic Also there's literal backstory to Chara and Asriel, how could you miss it lol?
@Frozen_Shedinja
@Frozen_Shedinja 4 ай бұрын
@@narrativeless404 i said "in the events of undertale" what I mean by that is what happens when frisk is goin through the underground
@averageyoutubehandle497
@averageyoutubehandle497 2 ай бұрын
@@narrativeless404 "the name thing isnt even canon, its just a major event included in the main game." is what youre trying to argue, and thats bullshit. it is canon.
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 2 ай бұрын
@@averageyoutubehandle497 That isn't canon bruh Chara is Chara all the way, regardless of how you call it when you play the game
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 2 ай бұрын
@@Frozen_Shedinja Except that isn't what happens The only thing that actually happens is Chara's reincaranation
@polishscribe674
@polishscribe674 4 ай бұрын
*knowing that I didn't do a genocide run... *it fills me with Justice.
@arcticfluffyfoxy
@arcticfluffyfoxy 4 ай бұрын
CLOVER?!?!?!?
@bloodrinker
@bloodrinker 14 күн бұрын
HOLY $#!% IS THAT CLOVER?!?!
@polishscribe674
@polishscribe674 14 күн бұрын
No, I just think Justice is the soul color that fits me the most. That or Integrity.
@nowh_8808
@nowh_8808 3 күн бұрын
UTY REFERENCE???
@moozcode6882
@moozcode6882 Ай бұрын
Finally someone has some natural sense. Insted of just sain "cHaRa wHy DiD yoU kILL EveRyONe ". Looks like undertale community is slowly but sturdy {hopefully} healing. BTW nice vid.
@CR1MSONACE
@CR1MSONACE 4 ай бұрын
The title reads like someone's about to reveal why a famous guy is actually suuuuper evil
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
No It's just way too similar to the title of Judjement Boy's video
@mylittleyuriclan4621
@mylittleyuriclan4621 5 күн бұрын
i keep saying the same thing and get called a simp
@YoungLife-sq7nd
@YoungLife-sq7nd 4 ай бұрын
About Kris and Frisk, I find a better way of seeing this by thinking they are both the same person from different universes, with Kris being a Frisk who has been raised similarly to Chara, although there is not much backing this theory up other than the skin colors and eating literally anything they find on their hands. And also, one misconception in the Fandom is that the Real Knife and Worn Dagger are two different items, while they are actually the same item. If one just thinks even lightly about it, a question should arise: "who replaced the Worn Dagger and the Heart Locket with the Real Knife and The Locket in the Genocide Route?" The answer being no one did, as they are the same items seen through the lenses of the Genocide Route. A rusty dagger for a random person will look like a rusty worn dagger, but to the eyes of a serial killer that looks like an actual weapon compared to the previous items (a plastic knife, a singular leather glove, a pair of ballet shoes, a notebook, a burnt pan and an empty gun). For their ATK stat being vastly different, if we follow the "Narrachara theory", it might be Chara just making up their stats to gaslight the player/Frisk to equip it right away instead of keeping their stupid burnt pan / empty gun (these are the weapons you most likely have at this point). As for The Locket, if we still follow the "Narrachara" theory, the name change would make sense due to Chara recognizing the item as their Old Locket. Albeit this last theory could be completely demolished by just saying "Flowey placed the items there and instead of picking up the Worn Dagger he picked up an actual kitchen knife", even though it might not be even true since it's not sure if ASGORE has any kitchen utensils left. tl;dr : Frisk and Kris might be the same person but raised differently and the Real Knife and The Locket are the same items as the Worn Dagger and Heart Locket just seen through the eyes of a serial killer.
@NovaAeternus
@NovaAeternus 4 ай бұрын
they are likely to be the same item, but what makes you think there would be no kitchen utensils in the kitchen
@daltonexists8392
@daltonexists8392 4 ай бұрын
One thing that i do find interesting (but don't think means anything) is that the face Chara makes whule laughing before killing you in Genocide is very similar to that of Gaster.
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
This is actually a much more interesting interpretation than the common interpretation that "Chara represents the consequences of the player's actions" because that common interpretation clashes with their past. This made me think that the one who destroys the world is not Chara but rather Gaster possessing Chara's dead body because it never made sense to me why Chara only had a proactive role in the genocide run in a way that clashed with their past rather than any other run if determination brought them back to life.
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
@@maila319 Why do you exist? *Get banished to the void Gaster lives in*
@WhoStoleKirya73
@WhoStoleKirya73 4 ай бұрын
​@@maila319 i just realized, the save file menu before finishing chapter 1 of Deltarune is pretty heavily implied to be narrated by Gaster, and it does give us the "erase" option instead of resetting like Undertale
@averageyoutubehandle497
@averageyoutubehandle497 2 ай бұрын
what is bro yapping about? the only part of gaster weve ever seen is the one the follower carries and it looks nothing like this.
@dennmenn99
@dennmenn99 4 ай бұрын
I always thought of chara as someone who was constantly at war with themself when they were still alive. I do believe a part of chara did want to do genuine good for monster but I also believe they were aware that it might also be an excuse to just get back at what humanity did to them. I think being considered “the hope of monster kind” by Asgore probably did not help what chara was feeling.
@moon4236
@moon4236 4 ай бұрын
Also Chara at the end of geno does not have a soul since they are dead making them like Flowey so ofc LV 20 soulless Chara isn't the same as pre death Chara just like Flowey and Asriel aren't the same.
@Abraham_the_pierra
@Abraham_the_pierra Ай бұрын
Chara isn't evil, they just do a little trolling, a couple shenanigans, a miniscule amount of tomfoolery.
@ediblepencil494
@ediblepencil494 4 ай бұрын
in my honest opinion i headcanon that chara liked punk rock, specifically my chemical romance, and so does kris
@Over0w0MeAmTheHotel
@Over0w0MeAmTheHotel 4 ай бұрын
I think Kris Deltarune are Frisk and Chara Undertale in a trenchcoat
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
Oh yay A new one Btw, there's one thing about LV logic in UT: It's either inconsistent or just has nothing to go with Chara's mental state
@thecdsupershow1901
@thecdsupershow1901 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion, I portray Chara as a really nice person. The only reason they act evil is to get Frisk not to kill them, like Flowey/Asriel. After all, they were brothers for a while. And when Chara laughs, you’re just walking up to them in order to stab them, which is why all of the 999’s show up. But that’s just my prediction of the situation. Thanks for reading.
@skell6134
@skell6134 4 ай бұрын
Wouldnt say nice person but not evil Asriel didnt have best opinion about Chara really
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
Chara is not evil, good nor morally grey. They are just morally ambiguous.
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
@@maila319 And what shoul THAT mean? I'm pretty sure their morality is really consistent, but muddied by their experience and resulting way viewing the world And they are likely to use violence as a method (except the world is actually kinda fucked up, and Chara is just making the most extreme childish response they could come up with)
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
@@narrativeless404 Chara is a controversial character because they just make no sense. We don't even know why Chara hates humans beyond making headcanons that they were mistreated by humans and wanted to commit suicide but just because Asriel said they climbed Mt Ebott for an unhappy reason which doesn't always mean they wanted to kill themself. People say Chara is the narrator in every route but there are just too many inconsistencies with this theory but my biggest problem is why Chara was far more proactive in the genocide run than in any other run if Chara is indeed the narrator in every run and why some of their lines on genocide sound happy-go-lucky despite the darker narration in genocide and why didn't they stop us from killing monsters and not humans and why did they kill monsters on the surface in the soulless pacifist run even though that clashes with their past and why they decided to guilt trip us into thinking we destroyed the world even though they destroyed the world regardless of our choice. These problems made me conclude that Chara despite not being necessarily evil LACKS MORALS which is why they are such a controversial character. You don't have to be evil to lack morals.
@averageyoutubehandle497
@averageyoutubehandle497 2 ай бұрын
and thats why she destroys the world, and kills everyone after she gets your soul in genocide (soulless pacifist ending)? asriel straight up said she "wasnt the best person" and she was his best friend, i wouldnt say shes "really nice". she also says in 2nd genocide that she is the feeling you get when a stat rises - the feeling for which you do genocide, which im pretty sure is bad because it means shes your incentive to genocide, and also she laughed about asgore getting poisoned, thats awful.
@eliteplier
@eliteplier 4 ай бұрын
Chara should better call Saul
@hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399
@hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399 4 ай бұрын
God i remember when i thought chara was evil the whole time but than later saw the details that they aren't evil but just misguided by Us
@JulesAsecas
@JulesAsecas Күн бұрын
"destroying the entire universe"? Bro I thought that final scene at the end of the genocide run was a POV of a death screen I assumed Chara just kill the player the same way they killed all the monsters
@Chaos_God_Chara
@Chaos_God_Chara Ай бұрын
Few years late but i appreciate the effort
@fandomotaku9921
@fandomotaku9921 2 ай бұрын
Skin colour, expression, being controlled by the play, those things are all in common with Frisk. I think Kris is supposed to be a reflection of the relationship between Chara and Frisk in relation to the player; they're two people or one, it doesn't matter when it comes to being controlled.
@ChimeraLotietheBunny
@ChimeraLotietheBunny 4 ай бұрын
Another great analysis of chara in this day and age of what sort of human they are
@justsans.
@justsans. 4 ай бұрын
Glad to see more people have been noticing this about Chara. I’ve tried to tell a few friends of mine that Chara learns from YOU, not the other way around. But, I had to show them this video for them to actually believe me.
@Joe98912
@Joe98912 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I understand this but here's a important question, why doesn't Chara act this way in a neutral run? You can still gather high LOVE and the route be canceled by leaving one enemy left to kill at the core, it doesn't make sense to me when leaving one enemy to live, that suddenly makes Chara "Yeah, I don't like it anymore" and we all know that they do enjoy killing by seeing them say "That was fun. Let's finished the job." in the demo. And why can we kill every boss (besides Undyne) in one hit in a genocide run and not in a neutral run? We can still get high LOVE and it doesn't matter, it's because of Chara is not there, only when they are, we are able to. Check the orange book in the library in Snowdin, it states: "The crueller the intentions of our enemies, the more their attacks will hurt us." They hate the monsters as well with humanity but I'm not saying they once did when they were alive but now once they're back? I believe so but I'll explain in the replies of this comment if you want me to explain further because this comment is already too long. And I like to say that I love this video regardless, it's very well made!
@mrinsomniac2968
@mrinsomniac2968 4 ай бұрын
for the kris theory part, you also have to remember what happens when kris reads about other humans as well as their backstory, they used to wear monster horns a lot when they were young this makes the link a lot stronger between him and chara, but lets not avoid frisk's importance, since they also share their traits aside of a blank expression and skin colour, they also seem to share hobbies as well along with frisk's cheeky nature kris is a fusion between the 2
@insertuncreativenamehere
@insertuncreativenamehere 4 ай бұрын
Give Chara hug
@stormfiretheog9183
@stormfiretheog9183 4 ай бұрын
This is so true i actually have done a lot of reaserch about chara and would like to say my own theory, and it's even more in debt. showing that chara isn't evil! Chara fell in the underground and it is known thst they did it for not a happy reson like you said. Also one thing when you check the faided ribbon chara says. "If your cuter monsters might not hit you as hard!" Witch is actually such a disturbing answear- that basically already says something that happened too then in the surface bit if you need more of a nudge it basically intigates that chara was most likely abused by humans in the surface thus they're hate for humans there's also evidence of it for when you check the tools they're filed down sp they're safe and the knife's and anything sharp is hidden and we fully know that chara did not mean any harm too the dreamers and its actually that thry might have wanted too use it on themselves- so what we know chara was in a very bad state in the surface Nd climbed the mounten too commit suicide... but in instead of them dying they were taken in by the dreamers who showed them kindness and love for the first time!! And I've had some people argue that they were just "pretending" too be nice but that is complelty wrong actually!! In genoside you can find stuff chara made for them a sweather made for asgore with a writing sown on it "Mr. Dad Guy." Macarony art of a flower even and written on it is 'for king Dad!' They most literally pored they're hearts out and created stuff for them becuse they were the only people who actually showed them kindness... why wouldn't they do it? And now here's the other thing people yell at me on. "BUT THAT WAS JUST A SCEEM SO CHARA CAN GATHER THE HUMAN SOULS AND KILL EVRY HUMAN ALIVE!!" But that's far from truth!! We all know thst the plan started when chara and Asriel were making some pie for Asgore and acsidently mistook cups of butter for butter cups and don't start saying "NAH THRY DID THAT ON PURPISE" remember they're kids we did all sorts of stupid things as kids. So as we all know asgore gets sick and there is a quote of asriel saying that he should have laughed it off like chara did and NO chara did not enjoy asgores pain!! There are numurios of evidence even in real life that some people use laughter too cope with pain! I myself experienced it too!! And usually people with this problem most likely have gone trough abuse or truama witchbis another thing making it posseble that chara really was abused!! And so they're plan was done now fully knowing the butter cups are poisenes they used it too kill themselves for the plan. Witch is a terrible way too go symptoms of it is bloody dieria blistering of mouth extreme vometing and so on. And Chara didn't manipulate Asriel into going with the plan Asriel went with it without hesitation he only got sceared and worked once he notuced in how much pain chara was. But afther that asriel and chara went up and tried too do it though the humans attacked Asriel without mercy as us humans attack what we don't understand chara begged asriel too fight back becuse they were dying!! But asriel didn't Witch resolved in they're death... chara didn't wanna kill all humans they just needed the 7. And afther chara Is resurected by our determination they're confused sceared they don't understand why they're back. They're plan had failed. If you do genoside multiple time chara will say how disgusted they are by you!! And how much they actually hate you. You killed evryone they love and keep in mind they're a kod so you manipulated them into thinking this was right and chara still proped you too try a difrent ending then genoside if you don't listen and do it again they're disgusted by you and hate you for it. So that's my theory chara is in no way shape or form evil. Sure they made mistakes but they were just a kid! Also there's another thing I noticed chara goes complelty silent COMPLELTY trough genoside necuse they just keep on saying ". . ." So they were defiently not enjoying it either!
@calebdemosthene284
@calebdemosthene284 4 ай бұрын
had a theory that frisk somehow died when they fell.no matter which optuon you pick at the end of a true pasifist run they go along.and since frisk is supposed to be a self insert it makes sense
@NovaAeternus
@NovaAeternus 4 ай бұрын
wdym by go along
@SansINess53
@SansINess53 4 ай бұрын
In dusttale, chara is just the aftermath of your actions and this time, they decide to stop you from reseting.
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
Dusttale is the original(likely first) Sans AU And Chara was definitely portrayed as a villain And don't forget how Human somehow "can't" beat Sans in Dusttale Also how Sans literally remembers every RESET and decides to kill everyone? And how he allegedly "can" destroy Save points? Yeah, that's *bullshit!* *GET OUT OF MY EYES, FANGIRL!!!*
@SansINess53
@SansINess53 4 ай бұрын
@@narrativeless404 I'm a fanboy.
@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan
@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan 4 ай бұрын
You got the details of Chara 100% correct good job! Also I've kind of thought of Kris as a fusion of Chara and Frisk. You mentioned the obvious parallels between Kris and both Chara and Frisk but missed one comparison that Kris and Frisk have: they are the player character. Because of that alone that could mean Friks and Kris are parallels, but the details with Chara definitely make it feel like there is more then just one or the other to me
@antinixsupernova
@antinixsupernova 4 ай бұрын
For a LOOOOONG while ive known that chara was not the villian
@aureliamastergoomba1278
@aureliamastergoomba1278 2 ай бұрын
3:39 I think that’s more of Chara destroying the files of the game. I recall that Toby Fox said the original intent was to have the game delete itself, but he couldn’t get it to work.
@averageyoutubehandle497
@averageyoutubehandle497 2 ай бұрын
He actually got it to work but steam and gog didn't allow it or something like that
@Cynthesilly
@Cynthesilly 21 күн бұрын
DON'T SCARE ME LIKE THAT AGAIN WHEN YOU SAID "I'm talking abt Chara. Hear me out"
@akbars6842
@akbars6842 4 ай бұрын
I always wondered why everyone draws, talks, etc., about the fact that Chara is bad and it is she/he/they who takes possession of Frisk? When “Chara” “took over” Frisk, they did not listen to Sans, walked past the puzzles, attacked him, Asgore and Flowey themselves, but what if it was not Chara who did this, but Frisk? The player has Determination, that is WE are Determination that controls Frisk, and Chara, according to Asriel, no longer exists. Determination and a sense of power have taken over Frisk and therefore she/he/they cannot attack THEMSELVES or spare. Yes, dialogues with Chara and texts can refute this, but what if Chara only writes the text, nothing more. Frisk is human, and humans don't like monsters. Maybe at first Frisk obeys US and only wants the monsters to be happy, but when Determination comes to Genocide, and Frisk is still a child, how can they not go crazy? Therefore, Frisk takes over Determination (the Player) and does everything as they wanting, killing Sans, Asgore and Flowey, for the vengeance of the 6 fallen humans. But what about Chara? Chara hates humans, but not monsters, most likely THEY wanted to destroy humans and free monsters, because they and Asriel came up with this plan and wanted to get 6 Souls. She/he/they doesn't kill monsters, WE do. Chara is only cunningly luring US so that they can gain control of Frisk (after genocide) and make her/his/their plan real by destroying humanity in a soulless pacifist. And blurring the faces of the monsters in the photograph is just a reminder of what WE did so that WE would not forget about the genocide.
@Darkeststate
@Darkeststate 20 күн бұрын
Actually, the mentions of Kris and Chara being so similar gave me a good idea. Possibly, they are so similar because they ultimately share the burden of being at your will. Their future is in your hands. Each, fighting back or taking control away from you at some point as well. This makes me think with being so similar, both in personalization and in actions, ultimately that is Kris’s role in Deltarune. They are their own person, like Chara, and their role will be made by you. You can make Kris a kind and caring person, even helping them through what seems to be hard times before you arrived and surround them with friends to help them. Or make Kris wallow in Despair at abusing and manipulating his own friends and ultimately push in them further into the concept of strength until it’s all they know. Same as Chara did except with…. More freezing and less murder.
@Isle_Guard_Gaming
@Isle_Guard_Gaming 4 ай бұрын
Quality content right here
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I was trying to up the quality of the editing with this one so I’m glad to hear that! :D
@jeuniverse8460
@jeuniverse8460 4 ай бұрын
Player being evil = Chara is evil. Player being neutral = Chara is neutral. Player being good = Chara is good.
@ChimeraLotietheBunny
@ChimeraLotietheBunny 4 ай бұрын
Another great analysis of chara in this day and age of what sort of human they ate
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
are* It's not Horrortale tf
@averageyoutubehandle497
@averageyoutubehandle497 2 ай бұрын
Counter overanalyzing!!!! Chara literally could be medically diagnosed with sadistic personality disorder - She shares symptoms with sadistic Personality disorder as based on the dsm 3: According to the DSM-III-R diagnostic criteria Sadistic personality disorder is defined by a pervasive pattern of sadistic and cruel behavior that begins in early adulthood. It was defined by four of the following. 1.Has used physical cruelty or violence for the purpose of establishing dominance in a relationship (not merely to achieve some noninterpersonal goal, such as striking someone in order to rob him/her). 2.Humiliates or demeans people in the presence of others. 3.Has treated or disciplined someone under his/her control unusually harshly. 4.Is amused by, or takes pleasure in, the psychological or physical suffering of others (including animals). 5.Has lied for the purpose of harming or inflicting pain on others (not merely to achieve some other goal). 6.Gets other people to do what he/she wants by frightening them (through intimidation or even terror). 7.Restricts the autonomy of people with whom he or she has a close relationship, e.g., will not let spouse leave the house unaccompanied or permit teenage daughter to attend social functions. 8.Is fascinated by violence, weapons, injury, or torture. Chara fits categories 1(do not erase), 3(Asriel after absorbing her soul), 4(being mean to Asriel just cause, laughing at asgores pain, killing everyone in soulless pacifist), 5(speaks like she wants you to do pacifist because it's morally right when she actually commits murder in it), 6(jumpscare in genocide after you don't do what she wants), 8(where are the knives?), and could be debated to fit 7 because she literally leaves you in a black screen for 10 minutes, and it could be debated it's a close relationship (from her pov) because she calls you "partner". The required minimum to diagnose is 4 and she fits 6/7. Also She doesn't fit the categories of aspd, or se*ual sadism disorder which is a requirement to be diagnosed with sadistic personality disorder. (Just making my argument 100% undebatable) GET REKT CHARA DEFENDERS I HAVE THE DSM 3 ON MY SIDE AND YOU HAVE NOTHING!! MWAHAHAHA!!
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 2 ай бұрын
@@averageyoutubehandle497 Also this is spamming I'm reppporrttinngg yooouuuu Error 404: not found Connection lost
@Arid909
@Arid909 4 ай бұрын
Both Chara and Kris are influenced by the players actions, leading me to believe that if you kill enemies in Deltarune, Kris will go down that bad path just as Chara did. This will cause Kris to take back control as we see them attempt at the end of Deltarune Chapters 1 & 2, with that infamous "Since when were you the one in control?" line.
@TiMBanGboNganddroy
@TiMBanGboNganddroy 4 ай бұрын
Well, she was possessed or something which major kill when is of monsters, but it’s not her fault she’s not evil she was possessed or something when she was a child. Anyways, Cara is just a child.
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
Not posessed, just reincarnated like Flowey into a soulless state by DETERMINATION
@wraughtwithrat
@wraughtwithrat 4 ай бұрын
there being a villain in the undertale genocide route would undermine the entire point of the player being a terrible person
@joeypickering5273
@joeypickering5273 4 ай бұрын
Chara isn’t a VILLAIN. YOU are. YOU killed them all. YOU did this. YOU influenced them.
@-NotSomeone-
@-NotSomeone- 4 ай бұрын
Chara actually hates snowflake things, if i accidentally don't kil em genocide stops also in true lab It mocks his mamma
@UnoriginalJokester
@UnoriginalJokester 4 ай бұрын
You being responsible doesn't exonerate Chara from also being a villain.
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
​@@UnoriginalJokesterYeah what Chara did at the end of the genocide run is evil because they destroy the world regardless of your choice. No amount of excuse is gonna justify that at all. However what I believe is that Chara as a WHOLE is NOT evil. They just lack morality and are soulless that's all.
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
@@maila319 Ok, that's understandable
@aureliamastergoomba1278
@aureliamastergoomba1278 2 ай бұрын
I feel bad for Chara, as it feels like the community always misjudges them.
@kristsdabolins2642
@kristsdabolins2642 Ай бұрын
You know what especially pisses me off about people who say Chara is evil or any essay about that is the absolute purposeful misinterpretation and twisting of known information about Chara in the worst possible ways that completely go against the core themes of the game.
@Foxes4035
@Foxes4035 Ай бұрын
but why she took over us after the pacifist (post genocide) she should be lvl 1 and not entirely evil no ?
@MirroredWinter
@MirroredWinter 4 ай бұрын
i like this and its nice someone shares the same view
@MirroredWinter
@MirroredWinter 4 ай бұрын
thank you im glad you pointed this out and i hope more people get to see this information and change their minds
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 4 ай бұрын
Says a guy with smug face Sans blasting Chara...
@MirroredWinter
@MirroredWinter 4 ай бұрын
very true@@narrativeless404
@djcupcake8662
@djcupcake8662 4 ай бұрын
People still don’t know this In 2024? How?
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
Because Chara is a poorly written character that's why there is so much controversy around this character.
@The_Real_Flowey
@The_Real_Flowey Ай бұрын
Chara killed more people than the player due to erasing the world at the end of the genocide route killing an entire universe rather than the few hundred we killed
@DmotionT
@DmotionT 4 ай бұрын
I thought this was common knowledge at this point. We had this convo years ago! Did people already forget??!!!!?
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
I actually don’t think Chara is evil, good nor even morally grey. Hell Chara has no concept of morality since the game leaves Chara's morality up to interpretation which is how people make evil, good and morally grey Chara headcanons. And the player/Frisk being evil is actually a misconception because we aren't committing genocide out of pure malice. We are doing it just to see what happens. There are many players who shed tears when watching their favorite characters die by their hands but continues the genocide run. Even Sans tells you that you are not doing it because you are evil but just because you think you can. Also unpopular opinion but Kris is way better than Chara.
@The_Joshuan_Empire
@The_Joshuan_Empire 4 ай бұрын
for you guys that dont feel like watching, chara is NOT responsible for the genocide route.
@MinorLife10
@MinorLife10 Ай бұрын
It is funny how while Frisk is a rather generic kid anyone can associate with, Chara feels more relatable. At least, for me.
@GAMECUBian
@GAMECUBian 4 ай бұрын
Chara is so adorable.~
@MasterSeeker444
@MasterSeeker444 4 ай бұрын
Also in both True pacifist and geno, you are for filling the profecy by either freeing the underground by breaking the barrier or freeing the underground by killing presumably all monsters and free them from their prison.
@MalmartheReckoning
@MalmartheReckoning 4 ай бұрын
I mean, the thing is that we got over this misinterpretation years ago
@thelostone340
@thelostone340 4 ай бұрын
Amazing great video and great video about the best character in the game the original fallen human or known as the true name
@atlandfrisk
@atlandfrisk 4 ай бұрын
Omg hi
@thelostone340
@thelostone340 4 ай бұрын
@@atlandfrisk hey
@kingmagikarp97
@kingmagikarp97 4 ай бұрын
I'm part of the Chara defense squad, she/they isn't evil or the villain in geno, WE are.
@aureliamastergoomba1278
@aureliamastergoomba1278 2 ай бұрын
2:19 The difference is Frisk being the player’s character in the game has the ability to go back and undo previous mistakes, Chara doesn’t. For the hatred for humanity and climbing mountain for not happy reasons is the fact it’s heavily implied that Chara was abused on the surface, and climbed the mountain to take their own life.
@averageyoutubehandle497
@averageyoutubehandle497 2 ай бұрын
Or maybe she was just a piece of [work] and she actually killed someone so she was banished by humans.
@aureliamastergoomba1278
@aureliamastergoomba1278 Ай бұрын
The point is, they don’t want to hurt monsters!
@aureliamastergoomba1278
@aureliamastergoomba1278 Ай бұрын
Also you expect what’s probably a child, to be able to kill multiple people? One of the items (faded ribbon) says “If you’re cuter, monsters won’t hit you as hard” it’s implied Chara was abused on the surface.
@RealStarlo
@RealStarlo 4 ай бұрын
Maybe the real chara was the genocides we made along the way
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
I think you might be onto something…
@averageyoutubehandle497
@averageyoutubehandle497 2 ай бұрын
Actually! She says she is the feeling you get when a stat raises and that happens the most on genocide which is why she manifests here the most... You are on to something!!!!
@wraughtwithrat
@wraughtwithrat 4 ай бұрын
chara was probably an average evil child drawing on the walls and blaming asriel
@Nittle69420
@Nittle69420 4 ай бұрын
The "your choices dont matter" thing in deltarune is being tooken to much at face value in chaper 2 there are a lot of things that change what happens like how the snowgrave route traumatizes noelle i feel like this is the same as the "kill or be killed" in undertale where you can prove flowey wrong or correct
@Nittle69420
@Nittle69420 4 ай бұрын
I know theres no commas this isnt being graded why tf would i use grammar in a yt comment section
@averageyoutubehandle497
@averageyoutubehandle497 2 ай бұрын
​@@Nittle69420if you take each letter you typed here and replaced it with a coma/dot/etc you'd have a properly worded comment instead of a poorly worded one + a comment to explain why it's that way.
@Nittle69420
@Nittle69420 2 ай бұрын
​@@averageyoutubehandle497im lazy
@Krypto12
@Krypto12 4 ай бұрын
Let’s be honest player was the one responsible for the genocide. And Chara who we don’t know practically anything about happened to be the perfect person to blame for the genocide.
@krsynx
@krsynx 4 ай бұрын
This theory brings back memories. I still believe in it.
@thiagofungames
@thiagofungames Ай бұрын
5:34 Look, Frisk is suposed to be Chara's reincarnation, and we know nothing about Frisk, just about Chara. So it makes more sense that Frisk is Chara, but i think Kris is THAT second reincarnation of Chara, wich is Frisk... while still being Chara, but not in the same "life time".
@ame4kitty
@ame4kitty 4 ай бұрын
at some point or another i was working on a fangame that explores Chara as a person, showing that they aren't evil but definitely had a mischievous side. of course i suck ass at programming so it's getting turned into a fanfic instead. hopefully anyone who reads it learns the preconceived notion of Chara's supposed villainy is a fan-made fabrication
@abhikergaming7783
@abhikergaming7783 29 күн бұрын
While this is an interesting theory it's just as likely as her being evil, both Chara being evil and just being missunderstood have proof to support them. In all reality it's more which one you personally support as both of them are just as likely to be canon.
@Peppy2975
@Peppy2975 4 ай бұрын
I'd like to point out a dialogue you get by doing 3 or more genocides (I think it's 3) "a different path might be better suited." Chara actively suggests that you stop killing, and start on a better route. they're tired of it. they're tired of YOU killing. in the same dialogue they also insult you for recreating the world and destroying it over and over, stating you are "wracked with a perverted sentimentality", further showing that they don't want you to be doing this
@averageyoutubehandle497
@averageyoutubehandle497 2 ай бұрын
She suggests another route only to kill people in the ending of that route if you do it, so she basically lied for the purpose of harming or inflicting pain on others... Hmm sounds kinda like category 5 of diagnosis of sadistic personality disorder in the DSM III.
@alan62036
@alan62036 4 ай бұрын
Wasn't sure there were still people that thought Chara was the villain. Sure, I've seen people meme about it or use the idea in au's, but not actually take it as canon.
@TheHardestBoiled
@TheHardestBoiled 4 ай бұрын
When I saw this video on my feed it was 666 views Very suspicious..
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
Ahhh we don’t want to alert that man who speaks in hands
@NoobVSProlegendary
@NoobVSProlegendary 28 күн бұрын
It all makes sense
@timmycu
@timmycu 4 ай бұрын
chara doesnt destroy the entire universe, you just complete the game, thats all
@Void_Echoes
@Void_Echoes 4 ай бұрын
I feel like one thing people neglect to realise is that, being literally dead, Chara lacks a soul, and as we should all know from Flowey a soulless being effectively lacks the ability to feel empathy, which adds to the explanation of how they’d be influenced by our actions
@LazyusCheesus
@LazyusCheesus 4 ай бұрын
Hasent this been covered before?
@Spiffy131
@Spiffy131 4 ай бұрын
Yea, I just wanted to give my own take on it
@TheSkyGuy77
@TheSkyGuy77 4 ай бұрын
Chara is the only character whom was able to stop the player's rampage. Too bad it took until the end of the no mercy run for them to re-appear.
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
Except even if we choose not to destroy the world, Chara still does.
@emirturkmen4524
@emirturkmen4524 4 ай бұрын
​@@maila319So we can move onto the next. Chara doesn't stop us, just helps us continue (presumably to other games, to fit with the meta themes)
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
@@emirturkmen4524 that doesn't make their actions any less evil though
@emirturkmen4524
@emirturkmen4524 4 ай бұрын
@@maila319 Oh I assumed you were saying they weren't evil, my bad we agree
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
@@emirturkmen4524 tbh you worded your reply as if you think chara did nothing wrong like many defenders do but I also expect you are not an offender who thinks chara is a psycho who enjoys evil
@normalLaSerpienteBoluda
@normalLaSerpienteBoluda 4 ай бұрын
Bro why does this look like a chara apology video?
@Cap.R
@Cap.R 4 ай бұрын
They aren’t evil.. but from evidence I’ve gathered from the true lab tapes, I think they were abusive over asriel?
@itsniqilisitsme4701
@itsniqilisitsme4701 4 ай бұрын
People still think that in 2024? I thought everyone got over that
@maila319
@maila319 4 ай бұрын
Because Chara is a horribly inconsistent character which is why there is so much controversy about Chara.
@itsniqilisitsme4701
@itsniqilisitsme4701 4 ай бұрын
I don't really think they're inconsistent but okay
@itsniqilisitsme4701
@itsniqilisitsme4701 3 ай бұрын
I honestly never thought that Chara was the villain. But I guess the more videos explaining lore the better
@itsniqilisitsme4701
@itsniqilisitsme4701 3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it does- idk it's been 3 weeks I watched it at 2 am, it probably got buried by the endless pile of Undertale content I consume regularly lol
@itsniqilisitsme4701
@itsniqilisitsme4701 3 ай бұрын
Anywho I personally think that people are entitled to interpreting a character in their own away, after all that's a huge reason why us as a fandom have been going for so long with no sign of stopping
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