Dr. Ellie, please make a response video to this criticism. There seems to be a lot of mistakes and misunderstandings on the dr. Mark's part here.

@@__-zm5wr Yes I second that. The more we know the better we can make informed decisions.

I would love to see a discussion between the two of you 👍

@@melissajanaemiddleton6811 Me too!! 😁👍

@@__-zm5wr I have invited him to a discussion - a two or three way discussion could be ideal! But Dr. M does not know my "story" - why I developed this system to save my Mom's teeth - in the 1960s. I think he sees me as an opportunist or something. Only people who know my story understand that this all began at the start of my career because I knew early loss of teeth - in women - was linked to early onset dementia (which was prevalent in my family). My mom was 45 and told to have all her teeth extracted and dentures. Creating this system was to preserve my Mom's mental health. This has never been about teeth, conflict, or marketing products. We were successful with my Mom and she kept those teeth 50 years-till she died at 95 , and with minimal Tx over those years. (She eventually fell and died from the injuries and multiple surgeries). Seeing her success, I began suggesting this strategy in my office in the 1970s. I was able to see and be stunned by the effects and how these products worked. I have never received any payment from any of the companies - not even thank you! As Faculty at the University of Rochester I worked with a researcher involved in the xylitol studies of the 1970s. I suggested we replicate these studies at the U of R, but every year my grant application was denied. Eventually in frustration I left the University, took my 401K and started Zellies xylitol company - to teach about xylitol directly to the public. This was the 1990s (before the internet, social media or Amazon). My husband was furious with me - told me it was a waste of time. But I was lucky to get my product into Wegmans Food Stores - and was invited to teach oral health to their employees during the 2000s. I kept up with the science of oral health - which is a love and passion and became the founder of AAOSH about that time. I have many, many dental friends who support my system, understand my passion, and know my desire to help people enjoy oral health. I was the dentist whose "system" helped Bristle testing company's heal their Sjogren's patient ("Wendy") to eliminate strep mutans and develop a wide diversity of oral bacteria, and for the first time in her adult life - enjoy oral health! Current fears about Listerine and the use of mouthwash with regard to Nitric Oxide are not correct. The study headlines were bad and some studies were later disproven. The hype is not clinically substantiated. Thousands of people have used my system - many of these people for over 40 years. Within this group are people, like me, who have not even had a dental cleaning in all that time. We have tested the diversity of healthy bacteria in our mouths. We all enjoy stable, sustainable oral health. This is pretty remarkable as we are aging, yet maintaining perfect oral health. I believe all dentists should at least be intrigued by this.

Yes. I make it as clear as possible I agree that the Gum Health formulation is toxic.

Citric acid is most likely from corn.. Bad for corn allergy.

@sarahb.6475 everything is bad for everything allergy

Good idea

I just received the kit. I was excited till I saw Chlorine… Do you know how bad Chlorine is for any humanbeing? It goes directly into your system via our mouths. I left the city to live in the countryside where there is only well water and my well water is amazing! I have no chemicals or chlorine in my well water. And now I’m looking at the ingredient of everything and I want to cry. I should had looked and investigated better. Anything we put into our mouths goes into our blood stream and obviously our whole digestive tract. Even if it fixes one thing it causes other things. I have a handicap/ special needs son and I can not use this kit I got today on my child. I will have to find another way. 🤦🏻‍♀️

This is Dr. Ellie and this GUM HEALTH is a new (and horrible) Closys product i warn people NOT to use.

Hydroxypatite is amazing stuff! I've been using a tooth powder called Shine from OraWellness, and my teeth have never felt better!

I go in for a three month check in to see if anything improved. I'm very careful with the ACT because it will stain teeth with dead plaque. I also added midday coconut oil and xylitol swishing. I also continue to floss once a day in the evening. I like to hear from people who both had success and failures with the routine. I don't believe in one size fits all protocol plus genetics plays a huge part in what we are prone to. Sorry you had bad results. Wish me luck.

I didn't have success with the protocol. My teeth became so painful and sensitive. One size does not fit all....

Ozone is very bad for human and cell tissues. It is bad for lungs and a known pollutant. I heard about this so called therapy. That can be dangerous.

I'm in recovery from the system too. I have candida on the tongue and needed an emergency deep cleaning. She insists her protocol will remove calculus under the gums which is an out right lie. Only a mechanical removal by a hygienists can remove cement like tarter under the gums. She also makes the false claim that Listerine doesn't kill good bacteria which is a lie as the company itself says it kills both good and bad when I asked. She has some good advise on food and how to eat but all her protocol is based on antidotal evidence and no real studies.

I have this same question. I would think they would destroy both good and bad bacteria but don’t know for sure.

I know right? That was my first thought too.

Explore a product called TEEF. Never give xylitol to dogs.

@dr.elliephillips Thank you. My dogs eat a carnivore diet and have great teeth at 15 and 16. They get raw meaty bones and chunks of meat which require them to chew. I also brush their teeth with coconut oil or ghee. As far as TEEF, I would caution people that one formula contains sodium bicarbonate which alkalizes stomach acid. This is very problematic for dogs, especially those that consume raw meaty bones which require stomach acid to digest them properly. It is also bad for dogs with kidney issues. I believe they started making a formula without sodium bicarbonate. Most dog dental problems are a direct cause of eating kibble which is high in carbs and causes the healthy mouth bacteria to become pathogenic. Fix the diet and you fix the teeth.

None!! lol he only attacks other people's protocols

He is completely wrong. I specify not using the Gum Health Closys.

Perhaps. However, with all due respect, many of the products you recommend are a chemical annihilation of the mouth's natural healthy microbiome, and that puzzles me because it is in opposition to your stated ideology about same! Not to mention the artificial coloring, fluoride and sweetners (saccharine??!!). Makes zero sense to me! I've learned a lot from your general information, and I use xylitol religiously, but I knew enough about the ingredients in many products you promote to ignore them! If you can explain your reasoning, my ears are open!@@dr.elliephillips

I will continue using your system because it has worked well for me ​@@dr.elliephillips

I'm having tongue problems now at about three months of use. I'm laying off everything except a very mild toothpaste and some salt water rinses for the gum inflammation. Also, eat foods that are alkaline.

I have similar questions, and how it intermittent fasting.

This is Dr. Ellie I originally licensed as a dentist n the UK, worked in Switzerland where I learned about gum massage, xylitol, and nutrition for oral health in the 1970s, Worked in my own office for 10 years - where I formulated this preventive system through patient education in a high decay population, including older adults and special needs children and adults. I came to the US and specialized as a Pediatric Dentist and a Cosmetic dentist (AEGD) at the University of Rochester where I worked under the researcher who conducted the original xylitol studies in the 1970s. Frustrated with the lack of interest in effective prevention I left the University in 2004, and went into Private Practice. I have been a dentist for 50 years. In 2002 I founded a xylitol company called Zellies ( before Internet or Amazon etc.) I have a lifetime of educating patients, pregnant mothers, and health professionals. Judge me - but I'm not fake. I felt it was important to reply to you because this seems a pretty challenging community - who for some reason think I am out to gain something. I developed this effective system of care early in my career and share it simply because it is so effective for people who have ongoing dental problems. I get nothing from the companies. I actually do what I do as a mission of love.❤‍🩹

I've seen him use it in his protocol.

For PETE'S SAKE who/what are we to believe? Ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves! Trying to one-up each other just like children on a playground. You do need to pay closer attention to the products that Dr. Ellie recommends. She specifically mentions them. You're critiquing the wrong ones.

Wow, that's exactly what happened to me.

It’s the cetylpyridinium chloride that stains your teeth! Used to use it all the time and always got the brown stains…I’ve stayed away from it since then because of that, but this video has now reinforced that idea in my mind even further.

Wow, I thought it was tea and coffee stains. I think I need to drop this protocol right away!

@@joanroth8594 The cetylpyridinium chloride is in the ACT so you could do what I did and switch that out for the therabreath fluoride which doesn't contain that ingredient plus it has xylitol in it.

He is completely messed up with his evaluation. A quick call to me or better yet a conversation would so help him. 50 years of clinical experience should interest him.

Mark does make errors here....these companies sell more than one formulation of product and Dr. Ellie is very specific about the need to use the correct formulation to achieve the 'synergy' she claims works. But, although in a time gone by this might have been the best you can do, I think it might be dated. Just make the gut parallel....we knew so little 5-10 years ago, about good bacteria and boosting the immune system, etc. Who knew about sour kraut! lol

From what I can tell he got only one product wrong (the closys she recommends is the ultra sensitive not the regular) everything else was correct. He offered better alternative and method too. So no misrepresentation but an honest critique which we should all be grateful for. That said I'd love to see a discussion between them. You have to admit 3 mouth washes yet no flossing is weird.