Had to skip right to the AG1 section. Seen them everywhere and considered buying some but the aggressive advertising had me second guessing. Glad to hear my skepticism was warranted.
@milspectoothpick41194 ай бұрын
Same. I get a tub of multivitamin mix from costco that's I guess similar to AG1 and thought about trying AG1 cuz I see it everywhere on YT. I saw the like $80/mo. price and instantly closed the tab, lol.
@skr42074 ай бұрын
just checked the nutrition facts, yeah it's piss, has barely anything in there at good enough doses in 1 serving.
@testboga59914 ай бұрын
All supplements are a scam if you eat any reasonable diet.
@Grubiantoll4 ай бұрын
ye, the wierd thing about youtube promotions is- the more you see the stronger is your feeling that bigger part of the companeis money goes in to advertising, which often means that there is very little focus on product value and quality
@alakabaz34 ай бұрын
James Smith did a good video on AG1 and why it’s guff
@markusmuller656564 ай бұрын
Dave is such a treasure for the climbing community. He is sharing so much information with us! Thank you Mr. Macleod!
@00Platypus004 ай бұрын
Do not simply accept that information just because it comes from a good climber... Some of the things he says about nutrition and environment are outright wrong.
@markusmuller656564 ай бұрын
@@00Platypus00 i do not accept any information without questioning but i can be thankful for someone how tries to do good for others with his knowledge. And to say someone is wrong without any proof and example is not very convincing.
@00Platypus004 ай бұрын
@@markusmuller65656 I am not about to drop a full literature review. I'll just say the ramblings about plant protein and the environmental impact of plant-based diets is coming from a place of bias, from someone who promotes keto and even wears the shirt of a YT channel known for its unscientific drivel. Anyhow, if you usually do not accept information without properly sourcing it then all that is perfectly fine :) Cheers.
@markusmuller656564 ай бұрын
@@00Platypus00 Thanks for your answer and the example. Of course you have to cherry pick and evaluate the information you get and map it to yourself. And i agree on your point about the criticism regarding the points about plant based diets! My initial comment seems a little bit naive i guess.
@00Platypus004 ай бұрын
@@markusmuller65656 Not really naive if you ask me. I just thought of warning a tiny bit. We can appreciate Dave for what he is good at - there is no questioning his climbing skills - while taking what he (and everyone else) says about other things with a grain of salt. I did not mean to be confrontative :)
@Neffer234 ай бұрын
I am equal parts surprised and delighted to see this collab. Great stuff start to finish.
@Javiertr864 ай бұрын
Lool, the AG1 part caught me by surprise! 😂 I really was expecting a sponsored opinion
@biomorphic4 ай бұрын
Cocaine is probably cheaper than AG1 😀
@stf60864 ай бұрын
Then Dave would lose a lot of credibility…. When hoopers beta did their ag1 commercials their claim of science based content became just empty words for me….
@Hopesfallout4 ай бұрын
@@stf6086 Yeah, it certainly blurs the message a bit. They did speak out against the Eric Hörst collagen bullshit in the past but they'll advertise another unnecessary overpriced supplement instead, it massively contradicts the philosophy of their channel. Then again 99% of what's on their channel is still good info.
@IAmABoss24 ай бұрын
Idk if this makes you feel any better but I'm 100% certain that the high price tag for AG1 is to pay for the insane amount of money their sponsorships pay. Obviously I don't know the figure but they've sponsored Magnus so this would be a really hefty amount. Let them get their bread from a sponsor, at the end of the day, like Dave said, it doesn't hurt, but yeah you can buy better stuff from just multivitamins
@rhinoonarampage82034 ай бұрын
Any video with Dave Macleod in it is incomparably helpful to climbing, and its cool to see him in a goofier style of video
@Johnny_Cash_Flow4 ай бұрын
Dude, this is good stuff, Climbing Stuff. These are good interviews - you're a likeable guy and these are fun, entertaining, and informative. Well-done.
@Fred-oz3tw4 ай бұрын
that is mostly misinformation by seemingly purposely painting a very limited picture of things. little hint for that is his t-shirt.
@rickyrickstan5634 ай бұрын
@@Fred-oz3twthere's a reason your reply has no likes
@Johnny_Cash_Flow4 ай бұрын
@@Fred-oz3tw What the hell are you talking about? What does anything you said have anything to do with my comment?
@Vicitoriachi4 ай бұрын
@@rickyrickstan563I'm not saying that OP is right or wrong, but anyways: likes or the absence of likes are NOT an indicator of the correctness of a comment.
@florianneumann94414 ай бұрын
You dismiss his education and expertise because of a vegetable t-Shirt? Btw he isn’t even a vegetarian… you are a prime example of what you claim about dave.
@brianlee96304 ай бұрын
nice vid! time for me to get some BACC, HGH and coke so i can send my V4 proj on the moonboard
@sisoboy_44384 ай бұрын
To be fair v4 on the moonboard is basically v10
@Hopesfallout4 ай бұрын
Climbers should start experimenting with tren.
@brianlee96304 ай бұрын
@@Hopesfallout saving that for the V5s on the moonboard
@hugmynutus2 ай бұрын
@@Hopesfallout finally!
@HopyHop128 күн бұрын
@@Hopesfallout You think they are not already using performance enhancing drugs?
@gordonsulc83194 ай бұрын
Dave Macleod is so great! And this was a great video idea from Climbing Stuff to get at his voluminous, quality knowledge!
@llVincentRockll4 ай бұрын
Wow! This surprised me. This actually important and serious content outside of memes and that. Good job and amazing interview!
@michael_angelo4 ай бұрын
#1 climbing news channel.
@uh21814 ай бұрын
probably should've asked about just caffeine by itself or in the form of plain coffee or tea. I see a lot of people online always associating "coffee" with people who spend $6 every day on some starbucks sugar bomb as if it's impossible to drink it without all of the extra added bullshit. Most preworkouts have ridiculously high doses of caffeine (400mg per scoop isn't unheard of) but they differ in how much they deliver of other random supplements like arginine, l-citrulline, carnitine, beta-alanine, etc which give preworkout blends more effects beyond pure stimulation.
@toni61944 ай бұрын
Yeah this guy clearly didnt seem to be the best person to interview and rank some of the kinds of "supplements" in this list.
@16m49x34 ай бұрын
same with red bull
@ianmass20004 ай бұрын
No sugar though @@16m49x3
@peteraarhaug65224 ай бұрын
What about Yorkshire tea? It looks like it might up the British trad game at least!
@littletyke764 ай бұрын
The best tea out there.
@climbermacleod4 ай бұрын
S tier.
@frankzappa42864 ай бұрын
Oh yeah. It's illegal to climb in Yorkshire unless you have a flask of verifiable Yorkshire Tea.
@mikej2434 ай бұрын
My god Dave knows a thing or two about optimal camera lighting.
@jordi954 ай бұрын
I aproached the video thinking that it would be goofy but I was pleasently surprised. Great video!
@outdoorintrovert_4 ай бұрын
Idk about the discussion about pea protein allegedly contributing to more waste than whey protein supplements.. I feel like is removing the fact that in order to produce whey, a cow is consuming a huge volume of plant feed. Im seriously doubting that pea protein may have a higher envm impact, but Id be interested in seeing a life cycle analysis for both. edit: pea protein is definitely lower impact lol
@00Platypus004 ай бұрын
Dave has something against consuming plants that is completely irrational. He is very anti vegan with his keto diet. His shirt says it all...
@shrill_21654 ай бұрын
Mate, look for the LCA then. Fuck you don’t need to just sit there are wait to be told what to think
@Clin2704 ай бұрын
I don't have a strong opinion, so I'm just trying to formulate my understanding: two main points, cows don't need animal feed, they can live off of grass and rainwater, this is sadly not done in most agriculture since it is more expensive in terms of area for production. The point i think Macleod is trying to make is, that most people who decide to consume plant protein over animal do it to avoid the meat industry, which they don't.
@rixt1354 ай бұрын
Exactly, way more resources being used and also way more emissions with whey protein than plant proteins
@peterkapunkt67834 ай бұрын
@@00Platypus00The shirt is from a channep called vegetable police. that channel is run by a person, who was vegan at several points in time and even moved to Thailand to live on a fruit based diet.
@shellytraverse4 ай бұрын
Great to see two contrasting youtube climbers vibing together! Nice combo. You brought out Dave's fun side
@skateboardscott4 ай бұрын
This was really insightful. Dave is a living legend!
@SauceVinaigrette4 ай бұрын
Awesome video as usual! On a side note, Dave would probably be the only climbing KZfaqr I'd be interested in getting a course from, he knows his stuff and explains it really well. His books are great too.
@Matt-yu5ed4 ай бұрын
Good to see no biases, climbing is a sport that a lot of people don't take diet into account for so this video might send people in the right direction
@el_kammeroni4 ай бұрын
S tier video! Love Dave, love what you do. Just awesome
@Drewbot984 ай бұрын
Much more interesting and informative then the "to climb hard, you have to pull hard, use good technique, try hard" things that dominate my feed
@Voidload4 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this extremely informative while also decently fun. Good trick for my AD HD to stay focused ❤️🔥
@MechanixPL9 күн бұрын
Kudos to Dave for enduring some of the questions. Good knowledge in others, as always.
@kurtzepausekurtzepause16954 ай бұрын
If it were 10 times cheaper, it would go up to D - Endorsment of AG1 - love it
@greentea340617 күн бұрын
My man this video is pure gold, the information in it is amazing and all of it its delivered with a great dose of humour. Loved it, Dave its the best.
@bennyneedsbeta83774 ай бұрын
Dude excellent freaking work so great to see this channel evolve:)
@Voidload4 ай бұрын
It's amazing to have Dave in the video! He is so knowledgeable and he state is an an oppinion not a fact
@konstantinmuller67464 ай бұрын
i like your "interview" style, keep em comin
@MusingMuso4 ай бұрын
First time seeing any of Dave's stuff but he had my INSTANT respect when he said "pass" on commenting on HGH solely because he didn't feel like he knew enough about it. That's some serious integrity.
@adamhuske17494 ай бұрын
Awesome video, Dave is the man. The team up was very funny and got a ton of good information. Please do a collaboration on training for climbing with him. He's realistic and could be very informative
@yercules4 ай бұрын
Cool to have Dave on! Glad he mentioned his supplements at the end, those really make you feel different. Some fun substances you gave but I missed beta-alanine and peptides such as bpc-157 or tb-500. Which could be interesting since he has a pulley injury.
@santiagogc4274 ай бұрын
why does Dave look like an AI video at the beggining wtffff
@Whueso4 ай бұрын
How many tabs did you take today, Santiago?
@santiagogc4274 ай бұрын
up until 1:19 Dave seems straight out the uncanny valley, maybe it’s the lighting idk
@uiofinder4 ай бұрын
@@santiagogc427agreed he looked like ai
@captaintvb4 ай бұрын
Large studio-type light source like soft box or something + big sensor camera with a decent lens and shallow depth of field give this smooth buttery look.
@minime4534 ай бұрын
The "Vegetable" t-shirt was a dead giveaway
@JHClimbs4 ай бұрын
Dave has a Vegetable Police T-Shirt on, that dude is straight bonkers!
@arnesl9294 ай бұрын
Did not see that connection coming
@paulcartwright8403 ай бұрын
I'm a nobody but I've tried all the supplements in my time...I'm 52 and have done many strength based sports. In my experience none of it makes much difference...save your money and buy real food because mother nature made it to do a job!
@angustaylor7114 ай бұрын
I think Dave speaking about the ethical issues of wasting peas but not touching on the vast ethical/environmental issues caused by a diet of red meat and dairy (which he continues to encourage) feels like a pretty poor representation of different diets impact. Other than that, interesting to hear his thoughts on other supplements, interesting vid, thanks.
@samr27334 ай бұрын
How I understood it was that the only reason to favour the plant based protein over whey or meat is the environmental /animal cause. If that’s your motive, it’s good to know its flaws. As opposed to someone who would eat whey and red meat would have performance as a main point and maybe not care as much (or aim at other levers to care. I’m not pointing fingers, I think someone like Dave is probably way lower on the CO2 impact than every vegan Parisians/big city people would ever be)
@thenayancat88024 ай бұрын
@@samr2733 You're probably quite wrong, generally city living has far lower environmental impacts than living rurally in a big house as Dave does
@samr27334 ай бұрын
@@thenayancat8802 probably you’re right. Not my point anyway which was the reason of me writing that in the first place : I didn’t want to speak about about who’s doing it better for the environment and who’s not but the reason (imo) of Dave mentioning it in one case and not the other. Now if you wanna think that having people packed in huge city eating food coming from miles away and using the money they make to fly/drive far away at any opportunity is better than staying mainly in the countryside even though you might use a bit more heater in the winter good for you. I was also speaking not of all cities but of those huge metropoles full of people. I must admit though that I’m not so aware of the life in the uk. Hence my first sentence. On a side note, I’m not eating any kind of meat and living in a city 🤷♂️
@thenayancat88024 ай бұрын
@@samr2733 Yes, if you consider the most frugal country life possible, it's probably not as bad as living the most extravagant life possible in the city. However you don't have to do that, do you? You can live in a city and travel by train. Similarly it might feel good to eat local meat instead of veg that's travelled far to get to you, but the evidence generally shows that actually the meat is worse. These are the types of arguments Dave and similar people put forward in many of their videos on the topic, and they don't really hold water. It's just gesturing at the imagined hypocrisy of "every vegan Parisians/big city people" as you put it.
@angustaylor7114 ай бұрын
@@samr2733 I think what bothers me is that he does also speak about the benefits of eating meat (specifically keeping cows) on soil health and reps it as an enviromental positive, but the reality as you allude to is that most people do not live where he lives, and cannot source their meat from grass fed cows. I think his McDonalds experiement was also to demonstrate that people who are unable to afford/source the meat he does could just buy fast food meat patties and do the same. But Maccy's are responsible for a huge amount of rainforest destruction for ranching space, amongst all the other shite things they do. I feel like he has some blind spots in his dietary beleifs, and I think the fact that he then encourages others to follow his same diet is dangerous for the environment, potentially people's health, definitely the welfare of animals. And I will be honest that it irks me more than with other folks because I enormously respect and appreciate him in so many other ways!
@CJvanLissa3 ай бұрын
The argument that plant protein is more wasteful to produce is completely fraught. 80% of global agricultural land use is used for (feed for) animals, which produces 20% of global calories. So animal protein sources are far, far more wasteful than plant protein sources. Of course the whole pea is not used to produce protein powder, but that doesn't mean the rest is wasted. The other components are used for other products, including animal feed of course, or pea soup etc.
@davidharkey19392 ай бұрын
Seemed somewhat odd that he glazes over whey proteins emissions and takes points off for the plants. Whey protein is estimated to be 9-12kg CO2e per kg, while pea protein is 1-3kg. There are legit grievances with pea protein, they are usually more expensive and you need a higher volume for the same protein content also in my opinion the taste is worse.
@leybi4 ай бұрын
Super interesting thank you both for this !
@PlayedSun4 ай бұрын
You have such a fun rapport with your guests, it's always super entertaining to watch whenever you have a collab on the channel. It was also super informative as well as being fun to watch. I do find it a little humorous that the last AG1 sponsor ad I saw was on some random Magnus vid lol.
@durabelle4 ай бұрын
I'm not a climber anymore, but this was still interesting, good thing it wasn't too specific. One thing that wasn't mentioned about getting foods from real foods is flavour! You'll miss on a lot of lovely and interesting flavours by taking protein mostly in powdered form, be it whey or plant based. I'm with you on the bread diet though, looove bread! I've made it slightly better by baking my own, but it's still a lot of carbs, can't get around that. I could happily live on bread, cheese, selected fruits, and chocolate. Might not live long, but would die happy 😂
@KIVagant4 ай бұрын
I'm so happy to hear the honest answers and listen to that expanded comment about sugar and quick energy sources like bread. Bread is good, but only as a side to the main dish. But sugar drinks? Omg, how many people drink and drink them every day... They really should be licensed like alcohol at some point in time.
@_negentropy_2 ай бұрын
I found Dave Macleod’s channel recently and have found him to be one of the most refreshingly sensible, evidence-based content creators in the broader health and wellness community. Great conversation.
@semirelatablesarah4 ай бұрын
I cut out whey/casein and cows milk (I still eat cheese and quark) and my acne has cleared up almost entirely. If you’re struggling with acne, try cutting those things out - it’s not the case for everyone but worth a shot
@firegodlive4 ай бұрын
Creatine short list for people that have no clue: -Some people are non-responders (somewhere around 20% of population). -You don't need to time it, just take around 5G/day. After a month you'll see any benefits -Weight gain is water. That goes away with time and can be manipulated with diet. -Main benefit is basically increased ATP reserves. In short, you recover quicker from max effort movements and can (generally) output more power longer -It's not a miracle, but you could see a notable performance improvement. If your diet is trash, you don't sleep well, etc. - it's negligible For steroids/gear - don't do it. If you do, you should be getting at least monthly bloodwork and work with an expert. It's generally illegal (depending on country) - and even if you're careful, you should assume you're cutting your life short to perform better for a few years.
@billybobybobybob4 ай бұрын
Plant protein should be WAY above Whey (pun intended), especially if the reason for lowering plant protein is out of environmental reasons: "Results from our review suggest that the vegan diet is the optimal diet for the environment because, out of all the compared diets, its production results in the lowest level of GHG emissions." - Which Diet Has the Least Environmental Impact on Our Planet? A Systematic Review of Vegan, Vegetarian and Omnivorous Diets "Despite substantial variation due to where and how food is produced, the relationship between environmental impact and animal-based food consumption is clear and should prompt the reduction of the latter." - Vegans, vegetarians, fish-eaters and meat-eaters in the UK show discrepant environmental impacts "Concerning regional food, intuition suggests that shorter transports result in lower environmental impacts. However, transport only represents on average a small fraction of emissions during the life cycle of food products (Ritchie and Roser, 2020). For most simple products, the agricultural production phase is responsible for a major part of GHG emissions and other environmental impacts on biodiversity and soil quality (Nemecek et al., 2016). Thus, the environmental benefit from the regional production of food is estimated to be relatively small compared to a meat-free diet." - Eat local to save the planet? Contrasting scientific evidence and consumers' perceptions of healthy and environmentally friendly diets "A study published last year shows just how critical cutting meat production is in reducing greenhouse gas emissions. The study found that 57% of global greenhouse gas emissions from food production come from meat and dairy products. Beef contributes the most global greenhouse gas emissions, according to the study. Just 29% of food-related global greenhouse gas emissions come from plant-based foods." - A Vegan Diet: Eating for the Environment Apparently KZfaq doesn't allow external links in comments (pretty dumb), so I've had to include titles instead.
@thenayancat88024 ай бұрын
It's a good thing that egg and beef production don't have horrible environmental concerns that Dave failed to mention, that'd be very odd
@thenayancat88024 ай бұрын
Also, ranking energy drinks below F is hilarious, caffeine is insanely effective
@tobiaslueck944 ай бұрын
@@thenayancat8802use caffeine sups instead of sugar with a bit of it instead then?
@thenayancat88024 ай бұрын
@@tobiaslueck94 energy drinks generally have good doses of caffeine, a bit of sugar around exercise is absolutely fine as you'll be burning it anyway (pre-carnivore Dave knew this), and sugar free energy drinks exist, but yeah sure whatever
@tobiaslueck944 ай бұрын
@@thenayancat8802 thats absolutely wrong. Those doses of sugar cannot be defined as a bit. Redbull f.e. has more than 10g per 100ml in it, that lets your blutsugar skyrocket and drop down if u dont put smth in to your System afterwards. Also you mention beef and egg production has per se nad production circumstances which also just is a false statement. It really comes down to where you buy it.
Super good. It's always hard to get info about nutrition and this video nailed it in an entertaining way!
@davidgubbels13284 ай бұрын
More waste is not necessarily true about plant protein, because a cow wastes most of its diet in the form of energy so its probably pretty much the same except a cow produces methane
@billybobybobybob4 ай бұрын
Plant protein should be WAY above Whey (pun intended), especially if the reason for lowering plant protein is out of environmental reasons: "Results from our review suggest that the vegan diet is the optimal diet for the environment because, out of all the compared diets, its production results in the lowest level of GHG emissions." - Which Diet Has the Least Environmental Impact on Our Planet? A Systematic Review of Vegan, Vegetarian and Omnivorous Diets "Despite substantial variation due to where and how food is produced, the relationship between environmental impact and animal-based food consumption is clear and should prompt the reduction of the latter." - Vegans, vegetarians, fish-eaters and meat-eaters in the UK show discrepant environmental impacts "Concerning regional food, intuition suggests that shorter transports result in lower environmental impacts. However, transport only represents on average a small fraction of emissions during the life cycle of food products (Ritchie and Roser, 2020). For most simple products, the agricultural production phase is responsible for a major part of GHG emissions and other environmental impacts on biodiversity and soil quality (Nemecek et al., 2016). Thus, the environmental benefit from the regional production of food is estimated to be relatively small compared to a meat-free diet." - Eat local to save the planet? Contrasting scientific evidence and consumers' perceptions of healthy and environmentally friendly diets "A study published last year shows just how critical cutting meat production is in reducing greenhouse gas emissions. The study found that 57% of global greenhouse gas emissions from food production come from meat and dairy products. Beef contributes the most global greenhouse gas emissions, according to the study. Just 29% of food-related global greenhouse gas emissions come from plant-based foods." - A Vegan Diet: Eating for the Environment Apparently KZfaq doesn't allow external links in comments (pretty dumb), so I've had to include titles instead.
@paulgaras26064 ай бұрын
Whey itself a waste product of the cheese production process. Before the supplement industry blew up a lot of whey was just thrown out.
@danedalton4 ай бұрын
Didn't think this collab would ever happen, heeeeelllllll yeah
@satanaz4 ай бұрын
VEGETABLE POLICE! 😅 what's up with that shirt Dave?!
@jonasfritzer4 ай бұрын
Great video, cool that you got dave ob the channel! I would be keen to know why hes not on a vegetarian diet considering he should know all about increased health risks from consuming red meat.
@Mentholox2 ай бұрын
He said in a video that he believes red meat is not the issue. He argues that people who have an unhealthy lifestyle eat more red meat. In other words, if you eat allot of fast food and sugar you are more likely to eat more red meat. And that most if not all health nagatives associated with it comes from there.
@peterkapunkt67834 ай бұрын
Was not expecting a Vegetable Police shirt :D
@Govanification4 ай бұрын
Comment for the alg. Dave is a gem of the climbing world.
@JBMountainSkills4 ай бұрын
I don't understand the Redbull bit... Caffeine has well studied links to performance gains, so it's more than just sugar water.
@littletyke764 ай бұрын
I think that was down to the poor choice of "supplements" on the list. He should have put it as caffeine, not as energy drinks to actually get an accurate response from Dave. Honestly I liked the video but he should have done more research into the the different supplements, it was a rather basic and lumped together list
@johnshipley13893 ай бұрын
Great video, anything with so much Dave action is S tier
@jacobreintjes31684 ай бұрын
Cannabis. So if anyone else has seen the Arnold s documentary or read the book. He talks about smoking during breaks at the gym. Study's apparently show, that cannabinoids actually help block the build of lactic acid.
@lylemcdermott25664 ай бұрын
No it's bs. It makes you hungry, so you eat more even when you're super tired and don't want to eat. And it makes your pain from your body aches and whatnot go away.
@shaneh75193 ай бұрын
19:40 I think it’s important to note that while the powder has no vitamin d, when you sign up you get a free year supply of vitamin d and k oil that you add to the shake Also, iodine deficiency is pretty rare in the United States.
@olivertasnadi19054 ай бұрын
I know it’s all jokes but I’m actually quite a heavy weed smoker and recently I’ve took a break from it and have noticed a huge improvement in energy, focus and quite possibly strength but I’m not too sure about the strength, I’d put it in the D or E tier.
@user-ng3sl6gp4s4 ай бұрын
Dude you are getting some crazy collabs these days. I'm expecting the next video to be something like 'Reinholt Messner took me up Everest'
@10daxing4 ай бұрын
No Yerba Mate 🧉?
@JoeBlow-mw5oo2 ай бұрын
I think that adding bcaa on top of your regular protein as long as it’s inexpensive is not a bad idea. There’s some evidence (Can’t remember exactly where I saw but I’m sure it can be googled) that supplementing on top of enough protein can be slightly beneficial but it’s not NEEDED
@myskina11Ай бұрын
Dave Macleod great advice on suggesting red meat, eggs and salmon. As well as vitamin D3 and fish oils
@surferderek113 ай бұрын
I love this. Keep these kind of videos coming
@myskina11Ай бұрын
Dave Macleod is 100% right on more protein causes athletes, bodybuilders and obese people to get leaner. Good advice
@Mrwhomeyou4 ай бұрын
I straight up wrote in my nutrition class midterm that my Saturday breakfast is 2 bags pop tarts, and I start and end lunch with ice cream, full plate of fries, and random whatever lol
@mAny_oThERSs3 ай бұрын
Even if you consume enough protein in your diet, there are studies that show benefits of taking whey protein right after a workout, especially when it comes to muscle recovery rate, which is also something that i matches my personal experience as i basically feel like the stress on my muscles is halved the second i drink my protein shake.
@jeffmcdonald101Ай бұрын
This was hilarious. I think you will be rethinking your breadbull diet thank to Dave. He's bang on, supplement what you can't get from whole food and eat complex carbs (no bread/flour/sugar/juice etc). This lines up with everything I've ever heard and been taught about sports nutrition.
@mtfkno3 ай бұрын
The discussion around marijuana was actually really interesting albeit short, but one thing that's sort of intangible about the plant when I use it in my climbing (12b/c, V6-8) is feeling centered in my body. Like any of these other supplements, you can dose it so that you're receiving primarily the benefits (high focus on a single task, mild muscle relaxant, anxiety relief) without many of the known drawbacks (mental and physical lethargy, lower cognitive focus). In many cases, climbing on a low dose often makes me feel more attentive to my movement and body position than I otherwise may be in difficult positions like cruxes on projects. I'd say it's subjectively beneficial and warrants some further investigation without writing it off of the list completely.
@skilar-pg3dg4 ай бұрын
You should talk to Alex Megos about this I bet he‘d have a very different opinion about beef and eggs
@user-wm7ft4ug8c4 ай бұрын
Yes, …..but Alex is „just“ a climber and not a nutritionist. He obviously knows nothing about nutrition. His video left me speechless and I thought „please, just stick to climbing content and nothing else for your videos“
@Pimjeanpaul4 ай бұрын
@@user-wm7ft4ug8c Nutrionist is not a legally protected title, everyone can call themselves a nutrionist fyi. Not saying Dave doesnt know more about nutrition than Alex would. Just saying, it's not what you think. edit: Nvm, after seeing him recommend red meat and eggs I think Alex might actually know more about nutrition than Dave does. They are both 'just' climbers, only one calls himself a nutrionist and the other just eats healthy.
@TheEsotericProgrammerАй бұрын
@@Pimjeanpaul He did a master's degree in Human Nutrition... you're waffling
@rschreck8764 ай бұрын
Skipped directly to the AG1 to see what he said. Dave said exactly what I thought he would say!
@EffigyOfficial4 ай бұрын
Bioengineering student here, I know this guy currently has more credentials than me but he is wrong about there not being any downsides to adding whey if you're getting enough protein. It can cause unnecessary kidney strain
@myskina11Ай бұрын
Plant protein doesn’t rebuild muscle tissue, use egg, micellar casein, milk or whey proteins. In that order or a blend of those
@jy54904 ай бұрын
his smile after saying the joke about AG1 going up a tier sold the video for me
@paulgaras26064 ай бұрын
I hate to be that guy, but Dave’s opinion on plant protein consumed via whole foods isn’t shared by most or really supported by the bulk of evidence. Protein guidelines are established with 50% of protein coming from plant sources, with that ratio in mind, the recommended protein intake for athletes is between .7-.9 g/ lb bodyweight.
@terraflow__bryanburdo45474 ай бұрын
That evidence is based on poor quality associative evidence using typical poor quality standard diet.
@paulgaras26064 ай бұрын
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 I am specifically thinking of a systematic review , meta analysis etc. which included nearly 80 rcts with wide ranges and strategies of protein consumption and their effects on various parameters of fitness and health with no measures taken to alter body composition. Upshot of it was that mixed diets were fine and no benefit was observed above .8g/lb… which is pretty much in line with the findings of many other reviews which focused on hypertrophy, weight loss etc. meat helps, but is not necessary and basically no benefits are measured above .9g/lb bw. I can hunt down the reference im thinking of if desired.
@thenayancat88024 ай бұрын
He also tends to ignore good quality and minimally processed plant protein sources like tofu, TVP, and tempeh, and acts as though the only way you can get to a reasonable amount daily is by eating meat or by supplementing with protein powders. However if you've watched his videos on nutrition this is extremely obvious by now
@iamprsn913 күн бұрын
This was super useful, ty!
@chazott4 ай бұрын
not sure if Dave will respond to comments here, but what about algae oil instead of fish oil due to its superior environmental impacts? I've heard it's better for you actually, like taking out the middle man (the fish) and less likely to cause the gross burbs / digestion issues.
@snake_plant4 ай бұрын
I think coat is an issue. With the exception of some premium high priced algae oils, many simply have much less EPA/DHA in which are the key parts of the omega 3. For example I take a high EPA/DHA fish oil that costs about a tenner a month - to get the same levels from algae where I live I'd need to spend 3-4x that amount.
@climbermacleod4 ай бұрын
Take algae n3s if you like but be careful to see that you are getting the sufficient dose - many (perhaps all, but I'm happy to be shown otherwise) supplements have low amounts of DHA/EPA per serving. Middle men in ecosystems are a good thing!
@lucast.64742 ай бұрын
Regarding creatine I would say try it do a loading period and back off on it if you bloat or feel worse from it
@DanielEvans-ux4ovАй бұрын
The ethical concerns about plant protein knock I down a notch. Glad there are no such concerns with animal protein
@maxthiessen4124 ай бұрын
This is the climbing content we need
@macmurfy2jka4 ай бұрын
Talking to Dan is great, his work awesome. A good partnership for sure!
@MarkDonaldsonPhDMD3 ай бұрын
No mention of Mag Juice or Mag Dust? I've been butt chugging Mag Juice just for fun, but wondering if it's good for me?
@isaarunarom78304 ай бұрын
When I'm in the gym I'm only sweating and just need calories and electrolytes. But when im Climbing I'm out for a long time and need either beef jerky and alot of water OR just some water with bcaas. Yes its not as good as whey or a full protein but I'm not going to drink whey protein in the hot sun while I'm sweating. Bcaas sre flavored to taste like mango and other fruits and taste simply amazing. Just the fact that I can take tiny sips and each one feels so thirst quenching AND it atleast has SOMETHING to help promote MPS. It's it's during a long activity I simply like it more than water or whey. I'll have whey when or an actual steak when I'm done.
@AllPsychBouldering4 ай бұрын
I've been taking 5g of creatine a day for a while now and the main positive that I've noticed is I recover more consistently and quicker between intense training sessions
@lylemcdermott25664 ай бұрын
Did you do the overloading thing? Can't get my head around that.
@AllPsychBouldering4 ай бұрын
@@lylemcdermott2566 If you're referring to the act of loading up on creatine by taking a lot for a week and doing nothing, I have done that before in a bodybuilding phase and had success, but as a climber I just started taking 5g a day and it eventually just builds up. Also, he said that he put on like 10lbs using creatine in the vid but I usually only see about a 3lb increase with 5g a day vs. no creatine at all.
@brekkoh3 ай бұрын
I think everyone concerned with their level of protein intake should watch the Zoe episode with Christopher Gardner. Basically the recommended values are above the optimal values for 90% of the population, but thats done on purpose so that it can meet the needs of 90% of the population, but it also means 10% are falling short, and it's different from person to person. What they arrive at is that, on average, everyone is already getting more than enough protein.
@enricokohler4754 ай бұрын
Marihuana definitely helps with redding rid of anxiety - but the downside regarding climbing is: you also lose a fair bit of fine motoric precision when you're high;) - and it certainly lowers your focus - so with a precision sport like climbing, you may have a more relaxed mind - but you also don't feel your body as well and I personally experienced it as being not helpful, since I just take way longer for correct foot placement for example...
@michaelwetter8884 ай бұрын
I saw Dave in the thumbnail for two days or so and now realized it is a Climbing Stuff video 😍. My brain possibly couldn’t comprehend this unusual teamup. My favorite so far. Now I’m gonna watch it. (I would have watched it later anyway)
@drewetpa4 ай бұрын
Haha. I've done a ton of research on supplements. I was so happy / smug at the end. I take only cod liver oil which has vitamin D and the EPA / DHA Dave was talking about. I did buy collagen supplements at one point then realised they were a waste of money. Your body makes collagen using amino acids, zinc, vitamins A,C, E, manganese, copper ,sulfur,. There is no good quality independent evidence (not funded by the supplement industry) which shows that collagen supplement improve / enhance collagen synthesis. The body just breaks it down and uses it for whatever it damn well pleases. This story is true for the majority of supplements. The vast majority are a total waste of time. Just eat a balanced diet full of whole foods and stay away from the marketing hype and ultra processed rubbish.
@Gehirnautobahn4 ай бұрын
Dragging the plant-based protein down just because of "ethics" is such a weird reason. I mean, you don't talk about the ethics of dairy farming, do you? If anything, it would have been important to point out that you need different components when it comes to plant protein to get all the amino acids, which Dave didn't mention.
@orjyazm4 ай бұрын
It’s because the product itself is trying to appeal to an ethical market, which he does mention in other words
@olevarher4 ай бұрын
Dave sure loves split grades
@terraflow__bryanburdo45474 ай бұрын
6:00 the fact that plants have to be processed for maximum nutrition whereas animal nutrition is 100% bioavailable in its raw form is due to 2.7 Million years of humans as primarily carnivorous.
@ethancooper94564 ай бұрын
I like your thinking, but it’s actually due to the difference in protein composition between plants and animals. Animal proteins are “complete” and contain all the right amino acids in the desired amounts for us to absorb and use, whereas plant proteins are “incomplete” and have less than the desired amounts of amino acids as well as lacking some amino acids completely.
@SachaGreif4 ай бұрын
Weird point about the rest of the pea plant being discarded… wouldn’t it just stay there and you know, grow more peas?
@durabelle4 ай бұрын
Not really. Peas are annual plants that grow through one summer, flower and make peas, and then die off. All pea pods don't ripen at the same time, but you don't get multiple flowering cycles either.
@SachaGreif4 ай бұрын
@@durabelle right but is there something about extracting protein that makes it more wasteful than just cultivating the plant for food?
@misanthropicgodband67734 ай бұрын
A recent study conducted by the University of Michigan analyzed the carbon footprints of different sources of protein. It revealed that foods with a greater amount of animal-based proteins generally had a larger carbon footprint than those with plant-based proteins. Specifically, it found that beef had a carbon footprint roughly five times higher than beans, while chicken had a carbon footprint two to three times higher than plant proteins such as lentils and quinoa. The sustainability of various proteins is also an important factor when considering the environmental impact. Plant-based proteins tend to be more sustainable than animal-based proteins, due to their lower water and energy requirements for cultivation
@KRTRWZRD4 ай бұрын
Yeah total bullshit comment especially downgrading it compared to meat products. I really see to line of argument in which this makes sense what does he think animals ear? Air? Especially since peas are legumes and can fix airborne nitrogen in the soil. So the soil actually benefits from the root being left in the ground.
@KRTRWZRD4 ай бұрын
Yeah it's total bullshit especially since peas are legumes and can fix nitrogen from the air thus benefing the soil. And how can it be more wasteful than animal protein which is by far the least effective and environmentally friendly way to get protein. What does he think animals eat? Air?
@ambush9514 ай бұрын
Finally Climbing Stuff uploaded again. (I've never climbed in my life but this guy is just too good at making videos)
@guustvanuden29684 ай бұрын
creatine caused me to have better finger health, sleeping memory better and i can train 3 times a week and work 5 days in construction every week. in this list there should be a grade above S in my opinion for creatine. i went from 6b to 6c in one month and a half.
@lucaandreolli4 ай бұрын
Is anyone going to show Dave the research on the downsides of eating a lot of red meat?
He probably means the old ones that latter ones have overturned 😅 So many "scientists" these days have an ideological bias that completely negates every word they write.
@VolodymyrBarna4 ай бұрын
Why Dave keeps mentioning red meat and not chicken? Any reasons to prefer beef over chicken?
@littletyke764 ай бұрын
Yes, red meat offers alot more nutrients than chicken for example, protein, iron, zinc, selenium, riboflavin, niacin, vitamin B6, vitamin B12, phosphorus, pantothenate, magnesium, and potassium. Liver as Dave mentioned has a ton of different things too, even better than steak for certain things but obviously not everyone is going to eat liver.
@franciscohernandezlucas54233 ай бұрын
Dave MacLeod, from the clan MacLeod, right before he lops your head off, because there can be only one.
@amvnumber10183 ай бұрын
I'm sad they didn't address the caffeine aspect of red bull or isolate it at all.
@billybobybobybob4 ай бұрын
Weird, my comment with links to peer-reviewed data on plant protein and the environment keep getting removed.
@boogaloo46404 ай бұрын
Possibly because KZfaq doesn't seem to allow external links. The comments may be getting auto deleted
@billybobybobybob4 ай бұрын
@@boogaloo4640 Thanks for the heads up. What a stupid, anti science and information policy.
@taliesine.83434 ай бұрын
@@billybobybobybob Links getting removed is mainly to combat Bots posting phishing links
@Clin2704 ай бұрын
@@billybobybobybob Yeah i agree, would you type the DOI possibly, I'm curious!
@billybobybobybob4 ай бұрын
@@Clin270 I just tried. Seems KZfaq won't even allow DOI numbers without the full link. How utterly stupid. You should be able to find the originals by searching the quoted text and titles: "Results from our review suggest that the vegan diet is the optimal diet for the environment because, out of all the compared diets, its production results in the lowest level of GHG emissions." - Which Diet Has the Least Environmental Impact on Our Planet? A Systematic Review of Vegan, Vegetarian and Omnivorous Diets "Despite substantial variation due to where and how food is produced, the relationship between environmental impact and animal-based food consumption is clear and should prompt the reduction of the latter." - Vegans, vegetarians, fish-eaters and meat-eaters in the UK show discrepant environmental impacts "Concerning regional food, intuition suggests that shorter transports result in lower environmental impacts. However, transport only represents on average a small fraction of emissions during the life cycle of food products (Ritchie and Roser, 2020). For most simple products, the agricultural production phase is responsible for a major part of GHG emissions and other environmental impacts on biodiversity and soil quality (Nemecek et al., 2016). Thus, the environmental benefit from the regional production of food is estimated to be relatively small compared to a meat-free diet." - Eat local to save the planet? Contrasting scientific evidence and consumers' perceptions of healthy and environmentally friendly diets "A study published last year shows just how critical cutting meat production is in reducing greenhouse gas emissions. The study found that 57% of global greenhouse gas emissions from food production come from meat and dairy products. Beef contributes the most global greenhouse gas emissions, according to the study. Just 29% of food-related global greenhouse gas emissions come from plant-based foods." - A Vegan Diet: Eating for the Environment
@extraswaggeroni4 ай бұрын
dave's camera was so good I thought he was AI generated at the beginning
@Allxyin4 ай бұрын
This video was awesome! Interessting, educational and funny! As a German, I missed the beer in the rankings, but we all know it's definitely S-tier-plus.😜