The ultimate mill deck on Arena.

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Magic: The Gathering Arena deck tech & gameplay with a Blue/Black or Dimir mill deck, featuring Glimpse the Unthinkable, Archive Trap and Surgical Extraction from Outlaws of Thunder Junction in Timeless.
Patreon: / legenvd
00:00 - Deck Tech
03:14 - Match 1
07:13 - Match 2
12:44 - Match 3
20:54 - Match 4
22:55 - Match 5
26:41 - Match 6
31:03 - Match 7
Decklist:
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"Movement Proposition" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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@CyberBuster93 23 күн бұрын

Opponent spamming the snooze emoji like they aren't voluntarily playing in the strongest format on Arena lmao

@user-il5td2fi1c 22 күн бұрын

Because they’re playing a cool reanimating strategy versus something that you literally can’t interact with since it’s BO1. Facing combo is basically a non-game.

@MongoTheMagnificent666 22 күн бұрын

@@user-il5td2fi1c found the guy 😴😴😴😴😴😴

@loam4187 22 күн бұрын

@@user-il5td2fi1cthat’s why timeless is a meme format

@ryanwesneski5359 22 күн бұрын

Mill suuuuuucks

@JME2191 22 күн бұрын

It's always a good laugh when an opponent spams. Just take the L, say good game, and concede. It's not that serious

@edde2429 23 күн бұрын

I don't know if you've played surgical before but it can be nice to wait for their draw step to use it since they might draw a copy of what you're extracting

@LegenVD 23 күн бұрын

Yeah good call, it's been a while!

@Raghetiel 23 күн бұрын

Is there a time to response between draw and main phase?

@squizioo1098 23 күн бұрын

@@Raghetielyou can act during upkeep

@Dupernerd 23 күн бұрын

@@squizioo1098Upkeep comes before draw step. But yes, you have an opportunity to cast spells between their draw and their main phase.

@frazerman1 22 күн бұрын

@Raghetiel yes each player has the opportunity to gain priority after the draw but before the first main

@zephyroswest3823 23 күн бұрын

I love match 5 opponent's deck, just a 5 color saga deck in timeless. living their best life over there.

@CasualLoLAddict 23 күн бұрын

I had a play set of Glimpse the Unthinkable back when it first came out. ...I was not a popular kid at school, lols.

@davestier6247 23 күн бұрын

Lol

@ERealslimshady 23 күн бұрын

Still better than land hate. I’m a new gen magic player and just learned they use to print black cards that are also land hate.

@AutkastKain 23 күн бұрын

Gotta keep the goofy decks honest with some mill amirite

@HarverTheSlayer 23 күн бұрын

Oh, you're not alone, mate. I had a control mill deck when I was a teenager, with crabs, Glimpse, Traps and Traumatize to mill, and Propaganda and counterspells to keep aggro decks at bay. Needless to say, it was traumatic indeed.

@kek8695 22 күн бұрын

@@ERealslimshadyyeah baby sinkhole is an awesome card

@JogginClown 23 күн бұрын

I like the new animation when you draw from an empty library.

@zephyroswest3823 22 күн бұрын

I think the skull is a bit gratuitous, but the blue/black swirls are cool

@thcdreams654 15 күн бұрын

Great video. Nice set of games, fun deck and informative commentary. Top quality as always.

@gamingalthepal 23 күн бұрын

Timeless is such an interesting format

@davidcrawford5324 23 күн бұрын

Surgical Extraction is a fantastic spell to use for those pesky Gaea's Blessing cards that totally shut down mill decks. As soon as one triggers, cast it before it's effect resolves and you wipe ALL copies of it to prevent players from getting their graveyards back into their library. Things like Tormod's Crypt work well for that also but not many people use it that often Edit: Tasha's Hideous Laughter is a massively underrated card also as it lets you nuke their cards into exile rather than the graveyard, thus avoiding the dreaded Gaea's Blessing triggers. I have 2 copies of Gaea's Blessing in my W/G/U deck that I play on Arena and the number of mill deck players that I've seen instantly scoop the second that I get my graveyard back with Gaea's Blessing is astounding. It's so immensely satisfying seeing half my library in the GY one turn and then getting it all back the next. Although the opposite is true when they blast me with Tasha's and I lose both copies to exile. At that point I'm the one who scoops immediately

@KimahEye 22 күн бұрын

3 mana Ashiok is also pretty funny, Gaea's animation starts playing out like the cards are gonna go into the library, but then Ashiok's effect puts it all in exile before it can resolves. Gaea's Blessing spells doom for mill decks, but everytime it's put in exile the opponents scoops immediately

@TheAlmightyGoiter 22 күн бұрын

You can also use stifle to stop blessing and it pulls double duty hitting fetch lands.

@julianriml4860 23 күн бұрын

with scheming symmetry from M20 you can force them to search their library while getting a copy of the archive trap so you can maybe mill for x times 13 on turn 1

@Readceras 23 күн бұрын

The scheming symmetry, trapmaker's snare & mission briefing build was pretty spicy. Maybe some day they'll add merchant scroll to arena.

@AkodoNoEyes 14 күн бұрын

I had a Tasha’s Hideous Laughter hit for 34 once. It was sick. It was against a mono red deck whose curve stopped at 1. 😂😂😂😂

@Dootium 21 күн бұрын

Personally, I've been playing with thr new Jace in mill. Plotting Maddening Cacophany and casting mill half for 4 mana is pretty good. Not to mention just plotting Tasha's, and the combo Jace has with Leyline of Anticipation.

@Bluecho4 22 күн бұрын

Always a good day for Mill.

@rafaelpardinifariabastos4545 23 күн бұрын

interesting list, thanks for the video

@dummyroll01 2 күн бұрын

Yessss love the mill. Used to hate it so much but then I just embraced it. Still way cooler, more interactive and simply better than that endless Capenna landspam deck from Standard 🤣

@andrewflare1361 20 күн бұрын

23:50 My Arakis...My Dune...

@brent0034 20 күн бұрын

Love me a good mill deck

@Standyl14 23 күн бұрын

RAAAAHH WE LOVE TIMELESS GAMEPLAY

@mr.marker6449 23 күн бұрын

I’d like to take the time to appreciate the breaking news flavor text. For example “ dead horse deliverers beating”

@thebfunk5228 23 күн бұрын

Really like playing this kind of deck in bo3 with some thoughseize, couple of bounce spells for white leylines, cheap counterspells and the surgicals on the sideboard with some more card draw in the main. Really like the manabase, will copy it lol. Great video as always

@neilscarlett7249 23 күн бұрын

Who hurt you ....?

@kevincastner4541 23 күн бұрын

Show us where the bad man milled you

@AesirOdinn 23 күн бұрын

My man here has never been milled before

@CyberBuster93 23 күн бұрын

Oh HELLS yes!!! I don't even like mill, but all is fair in a hyper strong format like Timeless. This deck is lethal and DISGUSTING and I love it! Evil Luca is back in the house y'all!!! 😂😄🤘

@super_boros_bros3127 22 күн бұрын

I love mill it's so much fun. Also, love how you didn't acknowledge the person spamming the snooze emote at all can't give them the satisfaction.

@CyberBuster93 23 күн бұрын

Orcish Bowmaster be like: "LOOKS LIKE MILL IS BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS!" xD

@RenkoGracia 22 күн бұрын

big mill fan. love it！

@gryffindor8896 23 күн бұрын

Mill players rise up!

@heitortremor 23 күн бұрын

Love me some mill!

@masterkurosaki100 23 күн бұрын

Crazy mirror match at the end 😵‍💫

@felipealvarezr 20 күн бұрын

What cards do you recomend for bo3?

@spencerbell8386 23 күн бұрын

Let's jump in some games and see how da deck doz!

@Big_Dai 23 күн бұрын

Into*

@robertcottle1493 22 күн бұрын

I want you to do a brawl deck with oko or a standard either one no one seems to do any 😢😢😢

@oddipyloris5329 22 күн бұрын

Ah mill… the only thing worse than counter spells. Blue, the color of sadness

@zirilan3398 7 күн бұрын

The colour of no friends

@bounceday 13 күн бұрын

I want to archive trap with the rebound god.

@Gnilson5 22 күн бұрын

No Prismatic Vista to go with crab?

@LegenVD 22 күн бұрын

There's other fetches we can play, but there's only so much room.

@Gnilson5 22 күн бұрын

@@LegenVDYeah that makes sense. It was the 4-of Field of Ruin that made me ponder

@kjart 22 күн бұрын

The OTP cards are cool and all but you sure can't tell the colour identity of many of them without knowing or looking really hard (I wasn't familiar with i.e. surgical extraction and wouldn't know without the tooltip). Must be a super pain in paper.

@Darkvoltrox 23 күн бұрын

I would have punched my screen after that game 1 top decks...

@noobparty4282 23 күн бұрын

what formats can this be played ?

@stefanoriva1738 23 күн бұрын

Timeless

@Baronvaughn473 8 күн бұрын

All but the lands, you could make this exact same deck in Historic. Why not play it there instead?

@LegenVD 8 күн бұрын

Fetchlands enable our crab and we rely on opponents having them for Archive Trap.

@Say_Tin 23 күн бұрын

I just got back onto Arena because of Legend and got my butt kicked in a draft... luckily my duct tape mono green standard deck still works :,D

@electric_dream_machine 23 күн бұрын

Quick tip: if you put a stop in your own endstep while the opponent's spell or ability is on the stack, you'll always get priority afterwards.

@LegenVD 23 күн бұрын

I shouldn't have to.

@j.a.3008 23 күн бұрын

Why not brainstorm or mana drain??

@LegenVD 23 күн бұрын

Those are indeed options. Brainstorm does get punished by the omnipresent Orcish Bowmasters and in some of the faster games you don't always have time to cast a bunch of cantrips. Mana Drain is great, but the way this deck is configured we often want to tap out in our own turn, so keeping up double blue isn't always easy. I would certainly want some more counterspells in the 75 for combo and control matchups so we can swap them for removal.

@ExecutiveAutomotiveSociety 23 күн бұрын

Is there a reason that the Fallout stuff wasn't added to online?

@jannikwinkelmann2050 23 күн бұрын

Its commander, legacy and vintage only.

@magafugafu 23 күн бұрын

I think you couldn't play Archive Trap because there was nothing to play "in response" since the library searching happens after the cycling resolves

@LegenVD 23 күн бұрын

Normally you still have priority before the turn ends. Arena will usually skip over it to save time unless you put a stop, although they've programmed a lot of cards to still hold priority if you can cast them for free, which sadly wasn't the case here.

@Kuryux 22 күн бұрын

why timeless instead of historic? Looks like its all valid in historic except the fetch lands?

@LegenVD 22 күн бұрын

Fetchlands are a big part of what enables Archive Trap.

@ryanbolson23 22 күн бұрын

Cycling is just a draw, not a search effect.

@LegenVD 22 күн бұрын

Swampcycling is a search.

@ryanbolson23 22 күн бұрын

@@LegenVD ah ok, I only heard “cycling” since the video was in my pocket as I work 8-5. Of which cycling isn’t a search.

@LegenVD 22 күн бұрын

@@ryanbolson23 Indeed, I even added a little popup to emphasize the Swampcycling, but you wouldn't have seen it.

@LashlayDS9 23 күн бұрын

you get me every time.. i start watching the video and get more and more confused the more cards i see until i finally realize "its NOT standard" ... it would be realy great if you could add the format on the thumbnail.. thx

@LegenVD 23 күн бұрын

I mention the format within the first 5 seconds. It's also written in the video description.

@LashlayDS9 23 күн бұрын

@@LegenVD ya maybe its my own fault. i always skip directly to the gameplay. the detailed explanation of every card is a bit too dry for my taste... personal opinion, nothing to worry about. just a little suggestion, a single letter would be enough. S or E. edit: i see the problem, when i skip your Intro scene by pressing the right arrow key once, it skips in 5 second increments.. that brings me right behind the mentioning of the format... thats a habbit of mine for a long time already.. i never watch channel logo intros or the mandatory hello for the viewer. most channels are doing that and of course thats just social protocol but it's not of interest to me, at least not more then once per channel.

@LegenVD 22 күн бұрын

@@LashlayDS9 I did this when Historic and Standard were the main formats on Arena by adding a special border around the thumbnail for Historic videos, nowadays there are way too many formats. Adding a symbol or letter would add unneeded clutter to the thumbnail and most people wouldn't know what it stands for.

@xddddddddddddd 22 күн бұрын

@@LegenVDmini ribbon on top right might work?

@numawurst2381 19 күн бұрын

Luckily I play MtG only online, otherwise lots noses of mill players would have "interesting shapes", not to mention their kneecaps! xD

@LegenVD 19 күн бұрын

Haha, violence!

@kaemonbonet4931 22 күн бұрын

I'll never understand why people dont like mill. Its just burn, a check on the format. If you're too slow you lose.

@zirilan3398 7 күн бұрын

The reason is very simple: it`s easier to prevent damage or regain life than it is to prevent mill or regain cards in your library. Just by playing you lose cards in your library which is not the case for lifepoints. I personally have a inherit hate towards all non-combo-mill-players (combo-mill beeing things like Painter/Grindstone, RiP/Helm of Obedience) cause every single time I got paired against a millplayer in a competitive encounter it was always the greasiest, most foul smelling dude with a disgust for soup you could find. I have yet to encounter a millplayer who is pleasant to play against.

@kaemonbonet4931 7 күн бұрын

@@zirilan3398 you can beat mono red without playing life Gain. And mill is usually slower than that

@Clint_Beastwood 13 сағат бұрын

@@kaemonbonet4931 Yeah but mono red players are chiseled with amazing jawlines and they usually show you pictures of all the girls they've been with on their phone immediately after they pass their 4 second turn.

@eduardosoares6293 23 күн бұрын

MILL DECK???? Free like.

@plzstop9738 22 күн бұрын

So, this is what cancer looks like from the other side😂

@ciesma6381 Күн бұрын

Where's the free mill. You pay for almost all. I thought You create a deck where you mill all for free.

@LegenVD Күн бұрын

Archive Trap is the big one, having everything be free wouldn't be very reasonable.

@ciesma6381 Күн бұрын

@@LegenVD One card is your free mill?.

@LegenVD Күн бұрын

@@ciesma6381 You could argue that Surgical Extraction is too, and even Ruin Crab after an initial investment. But Trap and Surgical are the only new cards for the archetype introduced in the latest set. There are various combo decks can mill an entire deck for "free" with the right interactions, but you wouldn't really refer to them as mill decks.

@ciesma6381 Күн бұрын

@@LegenVD I understand, but if You put a title: Free Mill (That means that all is for free). I supposed that You Will play a card that gives You the Power to mill for free in the rest of the Match, but you "create" a deck that is a copy of something that I already played vs a lot of times. That what i'm talking about. Where is your creativity?.

@LegenVD 23 сағат бұрын

@@ciesma6381 I made this deck when the set just came out, so nobody was playing with these cards yet at the time. Doesn't surprise me that this strategy has picked up in popularity since. Sounds like your interpretation is having a copy of Omniscience on the battlefield, easy to accomplish with Show and Tell, but at that point there are better ways to win the game.

@gabriels1163 22 күн бұрын

I immediately concede to mill. Its not interesting or fun. Its a solitaire goldfish deck, go play against the computer and stop wasting people's time

@ieldarb12 16 күн бұрын

Lmfao nice opinions, do you cry when people play “paper” in “rock, paper, scissors”?

@Derpy_fish63 15 күн бұрын

Skill issue

@gabriels1163 14 күн бұрын

@@Derpy_fish63 That is the problem. A game vs mill leaves both players in the position of playing a game of solitaire that requires zero skill. Goldfishing just isnt a good use of time.