Unless it's fanart, none of them.

All final bosses next please

Motaro..

I said all final bosses next please

Moloch in deadly alliance can be easily beaten with Sonya I would always die and switch to her and beat him first try with her weapons

Absolutely!!

Lmao

Thats because he does

Mine told me he had two "D"s

Anatomy of Shokans is terrifying...

😂

Yeah you’re not wrong. Goro got bodied in the comic mainly to make Kotal Kahn look strong, which is fine, but why does it have to be an OG legend like Goro 🤷‍♂️

​@FAiRWAYx Then Kotal got jobbed in X and 11. Bro lost to Kung Jin.

@@czar9341 the storytelling is not this series’ strong suit

character chapters ruin the powerscaling. street fighter 5 did this well with letting us play with the bad guys aswell. tekken 8 also did this. mk just needs to write a story and not give people plotarmor for 1 chapter. some fights legit never made sense even in mk9 (the best one). sonja beating bi han? sonja beating kitana and jade in a 2v1? cyber sub beating goro and kintaro in a 2v1 and ermac right after? like sub is a beast but those 3 are insane aswell lorewise.

They could figure it out I think based on how incredible games look nowadays

And now it's basically considered a waste of time to redevelop an entire engine just for one character. If there's ever another sprite-based MK game, putting Motaro in it will be a piece of cake, but even with my limited knowledge of 3D animation I know just how much of a pain in the ass it would be to put him in a game with 3D models, and how much development time that would potentially waste only for everybody and their dog to find every glitch and flaw with it on day one.

@@reloadpsi Doesn't help that he'd need unique animations for each fatality because of his unique skeleton. The shokan _kind_ of get away with it, but you can see how the animators don't really account for the extra limbs.

Or do what they did in mk3; you can't do fatalities on him. I'd rather that small sacrifice rather than... well... never playing as him again

@@SlimeBlueMS And I would rather not have that awkward exception. Having one specific character that can't take a Fatality would just feel off -- at that point you might as well cut them entirely.

He did turn good briefly!

Absolutely

Those cut scenes are comedy, though. 😂

Friendship!?

Yeah that makes sense

how did he not realize that?! Noob Smoke are A tier EASILY.

The AI alone made them a fortune 😂

@@FAiRWAYx yep. That rigged AI when you try and uppercut them and you always get thrown. Ugh...

Yeah I should’ve clarified that I meant forgotten by the developers, not the fandom. I think Moloch gets a bad rap but he’s pretty cool

Moloch was legit terrifying when the game came out. Both him and Onaga just had that... "Oh shit, it just got real!" Vibe to them. You're trapped inside a single room with no way out, and you *have* to face them. Add onto that they could wreck you with ease. MK really lacks moments like that these days, I think.

They have their moments, but yeah, it’s a sad state for sub-bosses.

Sadly that’s just how the story mode is going to go in almost all fighting games

Such a sick cameo

You say "design" I say ".png"

And Goro's.

@@ATAS18. Goro's redesign as a corpse?

@@BBoy4040 Yes.

Love that idea!

😂😂

Agreed

I agree! Goro's in MKX, Sheeva is in MK11, so Kintaro has to be in MK1!

No

He was the better version of Goro

i think shang tsung reading all of your inputs before you even hit him might be MORE broken

@@altide8784 Better as in more broken

@@claysoggyfriesagreed…STRONGLY! The fact motaro can reflect ur own projectiles back @ u & the ability 2 teleport is the KEY part of why he’s so broken.

It’s on the list 100%

For sure

Really shows the lack of creativity with Kronika and MK1's "Deadly Alliance." They don't feel like bosses, more so glorified jobbers.

Yeah probably because it’s challenging to convey in 8-bit/16-bit with minimal cutscenes/story modes etc.

I was appalled by how badly they nerfed him in the 2021 movie. It was pathetic.

Even though he turned into Goro haha

Only the lore masters remember his dialogue with Kitana in MKX

👀

Lmao

Yeah the MK11 model deserved a shout in this video

It’s probably the most low key and least funny of the MK4 endings, check out the other ones, they get insane

Took me forever lol

ALL TOO EASY. Anyway yeah I cheesed with subzero spam and dodged a lot to defeat Kintaro in MKII.

If one is a novice then kintaro is harder than motaro If you learn how to defeat kintaro and learn his AI then he’s still hard but easier than motaro Reason being is motaro is easier to land hits on but he does it on purpose to allow you to drop your guard which in turn allows him To Defeat you turning the fight around quickly he did that a lot He lets you think he’s just letting himself be beaten this is easy then he just grabs you teleports beams you repeats 😒 so while he may be slightly Less savage than kintaro,motaro is smarter in kombat in terms of using strategy to win like I just mentioned MOTARO LETS HIMSELF BE HIT before he goes in for the win himself with kintaro he is savage so you nvr drop your guard Motaro Getting strategy to drop your guard and then using strategy and teleports and speed is a hard to predict combination that’s a lot harder to predict and thus counter than kintaro Hardest thing about kintaro is his teleport stomp but once you learn to counter it you master it and it allows you to defeat him Motaros teleport isn’t an attack it’s just a teleport so less threatnint than kintaros teleport stomp in that way but motaros teleport is meant to do just that evade attacks but he uses it to fool you teleporting constantly faster than ki taros stomp and it is meant to confuse you and part of motaros strategy to win and even if you know what he’s doing it’s hard to predict where he will end on screen and harder to counter bcuz of it Point being that once you learn to master countering kintaro he is t as hard but g even doing the same with motaro it only gets you so far Kintaro Is initially harder if you have no idea how to properly win but once you learn kintaro and motaro Motaro is harder

Just jump straight up and kick his super stomp

Motaro last?!

Bruh ain't no way

@@FAiRWAYx I ment to say 4th Motaro and Moloch last. Let me go fix that.

@@targetcj4894 not bad

Yeah, dying to two Kombat Kids is a rough way to go

Yes very true

I thought that and then I played Shao Kahn again and had serious trouble lol

Nightmare fuel for sure

Very nice!

You listed motaro twice and left off kintaro

@@secondchances1232 oops edited

Lmao that’s fair

Sadge

Yes I did fail to mention that. It’s pretty damn cool, too.

Goro is just more developed and treated slightly better in the lore, albeit not by much lol

Same!

I just classify Shao Kahn more as a primary boss so it felt wrong breaking him down as a sub-boss, but obviously Darkseid and Shao Kahn are iconic in their own right

LMAO

Same here, but I think it made our generation stronger lmao

I agree but with Goro and Motaro there it seems unlikely

I’ll probably do a tier list of NRS-era characters at some point, but I don’t hate Cetrion

Lmao

With a multiverse in play it’s definitely possible

I thought about it but there’s not much to say. Plus Shao Kahn will always be a boss character to me and I wanted to wait to cover him in a boss tier list.

😂

I thought Motaro looked fine as a Minotaur, but the explanation was weak. If Motaro was more established I would’ve put him in S

@@FAiRWAYx If they said that their ancestors were the ones who gave humans the exposure to a half man and half horse or bull monster is then it would help.

Goro is just far more established, but I mostly agree

Yeah I wish we saw more of Motaro to warrant S tier, but he’s close. Perhaps I have a generic voice haha I’m not sure

Well, I don't know about generic but it makes for a great voice-over to hear

I bought mk4 two months ago he is a lot harder in mk4 than in original mk1 at least the mk1 home ports like snes genesis The arcade mk1 was far harder and closer to what mk4 goro was But home console mk1 goro was pathetic 😂 lol Mk4 goro brought him to mk3 motaro difficulty level and you’re right These are the two hardest subbosses Kintaro CAN BE the hardest If you’re a player that doesn’t learn to master battling kintaro but once you properly learn to counter him he becomes easier than motaro bcuz even learning motaro he is still hard to counter even if you kno what hhe w doing he’s just too fast I enjoy mk3 motaro and mk4 goro I also enjoyed quan chi in mk mythologies He was the sub boss of mk4 in arcade and im sure he was probably harder then other normal characters in terms of difficulty setting at least egen ir not we much as goro I want to say where shao Kahn was having armor shinnok could y even be hurt but that’s a story for another day loll

I tried using Sheeva in the Arcade Kollection and it did not work out well for me

Thanks bro ❤️

I jump kicked until I finally beat him lmao

Yeah MK11 Kintaro looked great also

for me as noob, just psamming ghostball and doing combos iirc

I used Cyber Smoke and it took me a while to beat him. Perhaps I should’ve tried other characters lmao

​@FractalSpaces Ghostball just reflects off of him and hits you 🤔 I could still beat him with Noob by running in and drilling him with the kick string though.

@@umbrascitor2079 ahh yes, but i vividly remember hitting him with it. must've been a modified copy, since i had found it off the play store.

Currently in production!

Amazing how we can revisit the game in 2024 and still have trouble lol

@@FAiRWAYx right.

@@FAiRWAYx it was when he jumped In the air and stomp on you.

Lmao

Yeah in retrospect I should’ve probably added Cetrion, but I hope to cover her in a future tier list

Most sources I found had like a bunch of different sub-bosses for MKA so I just ignored it entirely

It's just as well not to include her. Despite being a sub-boss she played like a normal character and didn't have boss mechanics like the others did. She was just the closest thing to a sub-boss you could get from the female roster. MK can use a proper female sub-boss, and in the new era it might be cool to see Cetrion or an adult Ferra step into the role... or maybe an even nastier and more powerful D'vorah.

For real

If I recall correctly the only two characters I could beat him with were Liu Kang and Baraka , and it took loads of practice since Sub Zero was my guy, I do remember quite clearly it took me about 6 months lol My SNES got a workout. Motaro wasn't as bad after that experience 😅

@@themadking2508 I used Baraka also!