The ULTIMATE Vintage Teletronix LA-3A Compressor SHOOTOUT against 4 PLUG-IN emulations.

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Masterclaes

Masterclaes

3 жыл бұрын

In this video I am doing a shootout between a VINTAGE Urei/Teletronix LA-3A and 4 plug-ins: The WAVES CLA-3A, The UAD- Teletronix LA-3A, the OVERLOUD Gem Comp LA-3A and the BLACK ROOSTER VLA-3A.
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Here are the links to the Plug-ins:
Waves CLA-3A:
www.waves.com/plugins/cla-3a-...
UAD Teletronix LA-3A:
www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/co...
Overloud Gem Comp LA-3A
www.overloud.com/products/com...
Black Rooster VLA-3A
blackroosteraudio.com/en/prod...
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@Rhuggins
@Rhuggins 3 күн бұрын
Man I really miss these shootouts - they are an invaluable resource to the audio world, legitimately.
@toefes
@toefes 3 жыл бұрын
I think the overloud sounded closest to the hardware and I also prefered this one to the hardware! :)
@gfunny72
@gfunny72 3 жыл бұрын
I love all of your videos - and this is hands down the best LA3a analysis I have seen! Keep it going!
@dinocaster3371
@dinocaster3371 2 жыл бұрын
Best plugin comparison video out there. Love it. Also the most insightful and comprehensive. It's great that you stay silent and let the audio speak for itself with some sign language and you also help us understand what to listen for. And the back to back/ bar by bar/ comparison works great, you know exactly what we want. Please do more :)
@marin4311
@marin4311 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are time-consuming, but it is time well employed. You go deep in the subject and it is a plus.
@nichttuntun3364
@nichttuntun3364 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you for all the time you spent making this.
@georgegeranios2918
@georgegeranios2918 3 жыл бұрын
Your "hardware resources" are quite impressive. All the emulations seem to attenuate the very low end of the kick. GREAT video!
@JoelCalebOfficial
@JoelCalebOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Your comparisons are the best on the Internet!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you! Please spread the word!
@patrickleenders7031
@patrickleenders7031 3 жыл бұрын
Great job P (especially the technical explanation )
@dirkchurlish4074
@dirkchurlish4074 3 жыл бұрын
Great shootout. I loved your silent, expressive gestures during playback! Overloud is def the closest to this hardware on this source.
@AnimusInvidious
@AnimusInvidious 2 жыл бұрын
I love how much is said with just a couple of hand motions.
@petrkorinek9559
@petrkorinek9559 Жыл бұрын
Exactly because of the fast attack time I use UAD LA-3A on vocals and it's absolutely incredible! Always the winner over UAD LA-2A, UAD 1176, Slate Distressor or even hardware WA-2A I even used the UAD LA-3A on most channels across the whole mix once, it's really a workhorse
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! The people at Universal Audio will be happy to read this!
@ezrashanti
@ezrashanti 9 ай бұрын
LA3A hardware my fav also.
@WheelieMix
@WheelieMix 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video mate, I know how much time it takes to do such videos comparing software and hardware (did quite a few on my channel, including one about a piece of gear I can see in your rack ;)). Overloud was quite convincing here. BRA felt completely off (in terms of timing and harmonics), CLA3A was too "dry" as you say for me, and the UAD's attack felt wrong to me. I think the Overloud one might be even closer if using in combo with a plugin such as True Iron (Kazrog) or Kush TWK. To add that extra harmonic excitement it's missing. Super nice video !
@thePunkRockMix
@thePunkRockMix Жыл бұрын
I think no one soundet like the hardware. Thanks for your shootout!
@jwhelan709
@jwhelan709 3 жыл бұрын
great A/B and good info!
@silversteelstudio
@silversteelstudio Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing all these knowledge
@TokyoSpeirs
@TokyoSpeirs 3 жыл бұрын
Overloud, well done!
@robertparr1846
@robertparr1846 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Peter! I think you've just sold scores of the Overloud plugin! Many more features and, to my ears, the closest emulation!
@v9956
@v9956 2 жыл бұрын
Keep uploading this type of plugins vs hardware comparison videos
@PetrFink
@PetrFink 3 жыл бұрын
fantastic video!!! Thx a lot for that!
@cakewithoutcandles
@cakewithoutcandles 2 жыл бұрын
Urei all the way! Overloud was surprisingly the closest though. GREAT video! So well articulated and set up to win. :)
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@shotsi673
@shotsi673 3 жыл бұрын
The Urei sounds great.
@57Techboy
@57Techboy 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and comparison of the various Compressor/Limiters. There's nothing yet that can replace real hardware units, their character and personality have yet to be perfectly emulate. That being said the Overloud is the closest to the real thing. The software plugins seem to lack the space because of the slower attack time of the hardware.
@andreikhm
@andreikhm 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of hardware so realistically adorns and conveys the blow itself, unlike plugins that bring artificiality to the sound and smear it along the panorama... I can understand why your studio is full of wonderful equipment))))
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the nice comment!
@joemillo
@joemillo 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Thank you for sharing. I'm on my own journey to improve my recording/mixing skills and videos like this truly are masterclaeses. Cheers to you for sharing! Thank you.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Masterclaeses you mean! 😃
@joemillo
@joemillo 2 жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos Indeed I did!!! Editing now!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, I can also help you on a personal basis by doing a 1-on-1 session over zoom. If you are interested, let me know: info@masterclaes.be
@MrEnagee
@MrEnagee 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, surprisling the UAD sounded alot different. Really squashed...Thanks for sharing....Sub this guy!
@johncoughlan4057
@johncoughlan4057 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos and great gear. Thanks. I think I spot a pair of AML compressors in your rack. Nice.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, They are not AML compressors, but a Vintage racked pair of Neve 2254e's
@JudgeFredd
@JudgeFredd 3 жыл бұрын
Great informative video
@josuastangl7140
@josuastangl7140 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic job on this video, great information!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, which is your favorite?
@josuastangl7140
@josuastangl7140 3 ай бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos I think UAD nails the character the best, but obviously the attack time is very different. Waves and Overloud are both good in their own right. I didn't like the Rooster as much.
@dddjjjsss1
@dddjjjsss1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for doing this video. I was never impressed by the UAD LA-3A. Now I know why. I just bought the Overloud 2A, 3A plugin and love it. I just falsely assumed that UAD would model their own hardware better than anybody else, but you proved otherwise.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 11 ай бұрын
I am happy you saw the video so you made the not obvious choice!
@UniqueThaPoet
@UniqueThaPoet 3 жыл бұрын
I really like my golden age comp 3a clone. It has a faster attack time then the la2a . On vocals it sounds great. 👌
@AndyKingCo
@AndyKingCo 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered this one! Just for vocals 🎶🔥
@AFJojo
@AFJojo 3 жыл бұрын
Sick video
@professorslideraudio
@professorslideraudio 3 жыл бұрын
Overloud seems to have the nicest harmonics
@Chipicui
@Chipicui 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this wonderful and thoughtful comparison! I really can’t understand why some plugin developers fail to realize the importance of a simple sidechain filter. It shouldn’t be so hard to code it in every compressor and it helps tremendously when tuning your exact desired response. Agree with overloud being the nicer sounding and more versatile... pleasantly surprised by waves, disapointed with the extremely fast attack from uad and interesting long release (dryer sounding) of black rooster. If you’d allowed me to be (extremely) picky... i would say that there was a little, just a very very tiny loudness advantage in favour of the hardware that complicates an absolutely fair comparison, but it was really minimal and I got your point perfectly. Thanks a lot!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! About the loudness: i measured every comp through izotope insight when setting up and also in post i was able to do that... the tollerances should have been within 0,3 dB. I think the hardware sounds louder due to the fact that there is more “ambience” retained in the sound. Thanks for the great comment!!
@Chipicui
@Chipicui 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos yes of course, that's very probably the reason.
@kolyabichan
@kolyabichan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You very much! Super informative and to the point! great job! subscribed!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 9 ай бұрын
Many thanks! What is your favourite?
@kolyabichan
@kolyabichan 9 ай бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideosLA3 - infrequently. My favourite vocal chain is: low cut filter - 1176 - eq - vari Mu or optical compressor (sometimes it’s LA3))
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 9 ай бұрын
May I ask why you use the eq between both compressors?
@kolyabichan
@kolyabichan 9 ай бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos the first compressor (1176) with slow attack and fast release is for better articulation, then I use an eq to correct and boost some frequencies that I need to, then I use opto or vari Mu compressor for better sit vocal in mix. I don’t use too much compression on both compressors.
@josephtruscott
@josephtruscott 3 жыл бұрын
I love to hear your hardware against the Audioscape clones
@markmontfort5866
@markmontfort5866 3 жыл бұрын
I think Overloud's GEM series are all great, most of them fantastic. I believe Apogee's Opto-3A is the other one I'd put at the top of the heap currently.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
I missed that one in my search...
@jesserhodes
@jesserhodes 3 жыл бұрын
agreed, the apogee is the best one i've tried
@andre77475
@andre77475 3 жыл бұрын
Apogee 3A was one of the best comp plugins I have ever used for sure there is no other 3A simulation better than him, I compared it with Waves and Overload and they lost
@daviddepauw3245
@daviddepauw3245 3 жыл бұрын
That Overloud sounds really good! Time for UAD to compare their hardware to another one. That T4 makes an huge difference! Send them your video, Peter. They'll have to update theirs anyway.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
UAD Just updated their LA-3 to what you see in the video!
@aviatedviewssound4798
@aviatedviewssound4798 3 жыл бұрын
great video will be waiting for more you remind me of andrew scheps the way you act
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you! If you appreciate my effort please subscribe to my channel!
@FernandoRoma
@FernandoRoma 2 жыл бұрын
great video!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Which one would you choose?
@Mansardian
@Mansardian 2 жыл бұрын
your review videos are a true reference! Thank you for keeping such a professional level! One of my favourite LAs is the LA-4 emulation from Fuse Audio Labs. Could you have a look at that one, even though I don't expect you to have a real one?
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Johannes, yeah sorry but if i cannot compare it to a real one, than there is no use doing a review.
@SoundcastStudios
@SoundcastStudios 3 жыл бұрын
This was great. I do feel like software compression still has a way to go to be close to hardware compression. EQ wise software is basically the same as hardware, to me at least.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed! It is easier to emulate eq’s than compressors, especially if they are more complex like an LA-3A
@eancurtis9333
@eancurtis9333 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks awesome stuff!
@matthewray5343
@matthewray5343 3 жыл бұрын
Great shootout! Overloud has been killing it. Best modeling IMO. They are the first plug in where I really hear coloration on the sources I put it on. Please do an 1176 shootout. Overloud makes a great 1176. Their Fairchild is the best.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
A shootout of 1176's is going to be a great challenge: because there are so many plug-ins doing an emulation. Please give me a list of the best emulations available and I'll see what I can do! But it would be a multi-video series, because where do I start?? With My Bluestripe against other Bluestripes and the my D vs Plug-in D's? Tell me your thoughts!
@matthewray5343
@matthewray5343 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos Well the overloud models 3 1176 that you can select from (REV A (Blue) REV D and Rev F). Universal Audio has the blue stripe, rev E and rev AE (anniversary edition). Slate digital has the bluestripe and Rev D. Purple Audio MC 77 Models a REV H. Those are the best ones we have. Now waves has the blue stripe and revD but to be honest, they haven't updated those plug ins since they came out ten years ago. So I am not sure how fair it is to compare given the old modeling technology they used but you can include it anyway. We definetely want to hear Model vs Model for accuracy. UAD, tho it models a rev E, I am sure most of us would not be bothered to still shoot that out against your rev D.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewray5343 ok nice list! An E and a D are the same except voor a 110/220V switch so that would do!
@Espresso101
@Espresso101 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos Agreed, please do a multi series comparing different revisions. Especially Waves, Slate, UAD since they all did Blue Stripe and Rev D versions.
@johnc.4625
@johnc.4625 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe one Day you can compare them to the golden age hardware version. Thanks. Good videos
@karvn1148
@karvn1148 3 жыл бұрын
more of these please
@locks.666
@locks.666 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, fijne videos! Ik zag dat je een fabfilter gebruiken bent, misschien een leuk idee voor een video om naar die plug-ins te kijken en hoe ze zich onderscheiden van andere plug-ins en hardware randapparatuur.
@mickelachlan
@mickelachlan 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, still keeping my HW for sure.
@AlfredoZauberer
@AlfredoZauberer 3 жыл бұрын
I like the "Waves" Plugin...and i think you came maybe more to the original sound, when you modify the Peak Reduce. or Input Gain ...than the result is maybe better? But the Overloud is in my Opinion the Winner too!!
@dashmastering8811
@dashmastering8811 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed the UAD is slower but EQ wise it's also the one that doesn't change much from the original, most of the other ones are darker and a bit dull compared to the Urei which is very lively. It also seems less narrow than the others. The CLA is pretty good too but narrower, tighter and a bit less bright. Overloud good compressor feature but definitely darker and a bit dull. Too bad you didn't play acoustic guitars through them it would have been very interesting to hear with a richer harmonic content. Thanks for the great video!
@DMKahn
@DMKahn 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos. Please do a 2500 comparison!! I'm looking at the new 2500+, curious your thoughts if it's worth the investment (iI'm assuming it is, if you still own the 2500) Cheers
@emesbi
@emesbi Жыл бұрын
Mindblown by the overloud! Sounds fantastic to be honest. With a plugin like that there is no need to have a hardware unit (even tho its awesome to have one and i would have them if i could:)) I liked the CLA 3A a lot too, its tightness feels pretty modern whereas the Urei has a more vintage sound with its breathness and harmonic distortion.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the comment, I am Mixing a song as we speak and instead of going to the CLA, I used the overloud. With it being on many tracks, the transparancy and character is more obvious than on one track. Do you have the overloud as well and what donyou use it on?
@emesbi
@emesbi Жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos I don't have it yet but i am considering on getting it for christmas as i need an LA2A too!
@ezrashanti
@ezrashanti 9 ай бұрын
​@@emesbiUAD la2a is free right now.
@TheMIDIhead
@TheMIDIhead 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE the Overloud Comp LA, and it's on sale for one week only, until April 12. :) You're welcome!
@MarcoS-pw9px
@MarcoS-pw9px 3 жыл бұрын
bought it too. The 1176 is absolutely fantastic from Overload! All their Gems are fantastic! And they are all LOW-CPU! Unbelievable!
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 3 жыл бұрын
The CLA nails the kick action of the hardware. That was enlightening, as I don’t have the latter. The UAD is really surprising, way too fast attack, losing all the charm of the hardware. I simply would never use it.
@mrnelsonius5631
@mrnelsonius5631 3 жыл бұрын
Waves gets a lot of crap, some of it for good reason, but folks that just dismiss their whole catalog as bad sounding are missing out on some great, ridiculously affordable tools. The CLA 3A is my favorite electric guitar comp and I own SO many really expensive compressor plugins. RBass gets used every single session haha, even though it’s OLD
@povertytaretv
@povertytaretv Жыл бұрын
Good videos
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@cassio_zambotto
@cassio_zambotto 5 ай бұрын
overloud is an amazing plugin brand. curious how purafied vu comp would sound against your urei's. great video!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I will use it when i do the elaborate 1176 comparisson video!
@damienlott
@damienlott 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the Uad sounds totally off. I like the Overloud and the Waves one. Doesn´t sound exactly like the hardware but pretty usable and nice.
@hodshonf
@hodshonf Ай бұрын
Overloud LA3A and 2A are on sale for $69 UAD LA3A on sale for $49 Great shootout I just grabbed the Overloud
@Folk661
@Folk661 3 жыл бұрын
Knob sensitivity is an underrated feature 😏
@eugensagel9088
@eugensagel9088 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, you forgot to turn on the noise on Waves Plugin. I don't know if that would have changed the sound, but it was closer to the hardware. I think your lectures are very good!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Eugen, It would get the plugin closer to the original on the noise level, but not the overall character, thanks!
@arturovidal5536
@arturovidal5536 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, love your channel!, please keep going on :)
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! Please spread the word!
@iangomes
@iangomes 3 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly, None of them really nail it. The UAD gets the release, but botched the attack! Also, I'm going to have to try an la3a on snare next time I'm tracking. Sounded great!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian, Hardware kills it again ! Thanks for the nice comment!
@PereRevert
@PereRevert 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison Peter, what about an Audioscape test ? It seems their hardware clones, mostly their UA ones are on top, but there's no technicall comparison over internet like you do man. Keep up the good work dude !
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 2 жыл бұрын
If you know the people from Audioscape and can convince them to send me their clones, I will be happy to make a video about them!
@PereRevert
@PereRevert 2 жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos I'm trying to catch myself a piece of gear from them since ages... without no success. It seems they only make their products available to the USA market, as their time zone inventory it's usually at 8pm there overseas, but at 3-4am over here. Rest time. Keep posting these fantastic in-depth tests !
@Naturallproductions1
@Naturallproductions1 3 жыл бұрын
Super nice review and info.
@1loveMusic2003
@1loveMusic2003 4 ай бұрын
What you said about the hardware displaying ambience more is what I've noticed with 1176 plugins too.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 ай бұрын
I actually use uad 2254 plugins to reduce ambience if i have too much!
@goshanbeatz
@goshanbeatz Жыл бұрын
I think ima end up getting the overloud plugins
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the comment! 🙏🙏🙏
@konjstip6156
@konjstip6156 5 ай бұрын
Hello, loved all the shootouts videos ! Any possibility for 1176 shootouts in the future ? Great stuff, Cheers
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 5 ай бұрын
Hey there, yes a 1176 shootout is on the planning, I just need more time! Which video did you like the most?
@konjstip6156
@konjstip6156 5 ай бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos Hello, for me it was shootouts, la-2a, la-3a, microphones etc... Nobody is doing quality shootouts like that.
@QuabmasM
@QuabmasM Жыл бұрын
Overloud sounded very much like the real thing w/ a slightly better sounding(punchier) low end to the kick. I found they all sounded like they lost air compared to the real one so I listened again turning the volume up slightly for each plugin & felt like I could better compare them that way.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
That’s what i usualy miss in most plugins: air and depth… do you agree?
@Louis1996_1
@Louis1996_1 2 ай бұрын
Great video
@vincenthabay5109
@vincenthabay5109 3 жыл бұрын
very sharp analysis thanks for that video ... I've just discover you channel -Instant subscription ! Have you tried London Acoustic's Brighton that goes for Acustica Audio's Nebula ? Became my go to ... i'd be pleased to see you check Acustica Audio's stuff VS hardware . They have a bunch of incredible gear emulations that you can compare with what i see on your back - Pultec vs Purple -Neve 2254 VS Gold -Tubetech VS Titanium -Avalon VS Amber -Massenburg VS Green
@assshakerstudios549
@assshakerstudios549 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware of the oversampling option on the Gem. As I've not tried it myself, but some peers have it and have used it. However I found that when they did I didn't care for it. Wondering now though if the OS option is on, would I like it better? Thanks for the Video! I do like the UA one for certain things, like Snare drums with it's quicker attack time it brings out more of the snare wires which I like for the most part. But for me I use the La3a on Bass and distorted guitars a lot, and with acoustic guitars that need cleaner tones(think Earthworks mics bringing out the piano clarity of the strings). However budget is always a concern so, Gem's prices are too high for me(as I never pay more than $50 for a plugin ever, and usually wait till I see $30)! Especially nowadays, as work for me is non-existent with bars/clubs being closed and outta business for the foreseeable future!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Please don't forget to like, subscribe and hit that bell button!
@gonebymidnight2881
@gonebymidnight2881 Жыл бұрын
It'd be interesting to compare an oversampled Waves plugin using Metaplugin with Overloud LA Comp. I have been quite surprised when oversampling Waves plugins. Most of what they lack, specially compressors, it's just due to lack of internal oversampling.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanjs for the message! Have you compared the dsp load between the overloud and the Metaplug with waves?
@v9956
@v9956 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen you have Binson Echorec can you do a video on that one.
@industrystandardbeats
@industrystandardbeats 2 жыл бұрын
Overloud with new buttons they just added are the best la and 76 emulations out for the money and just in general I like them better than UAD.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
I think i need to include them in a 1176 shootout. What other brands do you think i should include?
@JoaoRelego
@JoaoRelego Жыл бұрын
UAD LA-3A with the mix knob dialed a bit down might be the perfect one.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! Would that be your top choice?
@JoaoRelego
@JoaoRelego Жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos In this case, the hardware :D But I think the UAD captures the tone of the release and the snare right, only lacks that punch of the initial transient.
@andre77475
@andre77475 3 жыл бұрын
Apogee 3A was missing, I did tests here and liked it more than the overload and waves
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never make that mistake again 😉.
@Huntermusic17
@Huntermusic17 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos lol he told you
@MinisterTravis
@MinisterTravis Жыл бұрын
would if you would have added the analog 50 or 60 on the cla3a? maybe the air would show?
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
It would only generate 50 or 60 cycles of hum… what was your favorite?
@geertteekens
@geertteekens 3 жыл бұрын
Great shootout! Crazy fast attack on the UAD. Why would they have done that?
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I think UAD had a T4 that was responding the way the plug-in is simulated...
@markward2436
@markward2436 3 жыл бұрын
let me assure you the uad fast attack is a bonus.you wont beat it on kick and snare....it allows all the transients to pop away
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
@@markward2436 aren’t those transients what we are looking for to get a punchy kick & snare?
@geertteekens
@geertteekens 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos Yes, exactly what I was thinking. I can imagine that their T4 responded that way, but I still can't understand why they released something that different from the competition. And not in a good way. ;) I feel the UAD LA2A is more uniform to the other ones, what do you think Claes?
@markward2436
@markward2436 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos yep and in my 20 years of using every trick under the sun the uad la3a makes the transient pop like no other due its speed like the arouser or distressor.combined with spl transiet tool great results.even the most dense rock mix i never haver trouble getting the attack
@dirkchurlish4074
@dirkchurlish4074 2 жыл бұрын
Overloud is not quite there. After matching levels and EQ matching, I can still pick out the Urei blind. Maybe it's a different amount of compression but I doubt it. Urei is quite nice. Is your Gates unit modded for fast release with the 1.5Meg resistors swapped in on R36 and R37?
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dirk, thanks for your comment… in the meantime i sold the gates, maybe now that I know the release time can be modded, I’ll give it another try!
@zanem9022
@zanem9022 2 жыл бұрын
Hardware wins. What's your favorite hdw tracking compressor? Can you make some recommendations. Do u like la3a for vocal n instruments tracking?
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
Hi Zane, thanks for the comment. My favorites are either the CL-1b or an LA2. I mainly use my LA-3’s on Kick and snare with an 1178 on overheads.
@hermanshermits705
@hermanshermits705 Жыл бұрын
Really interested in how the Apogee Opto-3A would stack up!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 11 ай бұрын
That was not available free for use in audio units. But please do te comparisons and let me know!
@niedec_hello
@niedec_hello 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed in the Black Rooster Audio one, the VST was set to comp instead of limit. Could that explain the slow release time you were mentioning?
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 2 жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaking, they are all set to COMP. A higher ratio can have an effect on the release time, but not in this case since they were all calibrated to do the same amount of gain reduction.
@m9shamalan
@m9shamalan 3 жыл бұрын
its depressing how much better the real thing is.
@ezrashanti
@ezrashanti 9 ай бұрын
Hardware easily slayed them all obviously.
@joelacina386
@joelacina386 Жыл бұрын
Its hard to beat the hardware!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Which plugin would you choose if you had to pick one?
@sybillesztorm9006
@sybillesztorm9006 2 жыл бұрын
the plugins sound tighter and have less depth.. the hardware sound more relaxed and so much bigger it's almost as having a bit of reverb, the sound is fuller and longer.
@josephparry
@josephparry 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Good way of describing it!
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
True!
@lahattec
@lahattec 3 жыл бұрын
I had an LA-3A left over here in the house from my Dad's studio after he passed. I was young and dumb and gave it away.
@chickenlickin3820
@chickenlickin3820 3 жыл бұрын
so sad and sorry you lost your pop.
@garyshirinian
@garyshirinian 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Have you compared UA LA2A vs Golden Age LA2A . Thx . For price difference. Have you ever tried LA2A kit some creative guys they put together. Thx .
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
No I haven’t... but i did with the IGS LA-2A and i reeaaaaally liked that one!
@garyshirinian
@garyshirinian 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos thx for replying. I just subscribed your channel, it's great . Teletronix is very expensive for a hobby, but GA is affordable. That's the reason why I'm leaning towards it. I have the mic preamp, for the price I can't complain. Thx again.
@xpulsar
@xpulsar 3 жыл бұрын
Whats your calibration method to get the same amount of compression and level makeup?
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
With insight as explained in the video 😉
@quickstrike209
@quickstrike209 3 жыл бұрын
But how much does your converters and cabling influence the sound
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Well if the hardware still sounds better than the plug-ins time after time in each review video... what’s the influence? Maybe different converters and cables will give a different result, but still the character of the Urei surpasses that discussion.
@JesusCaroCantante
@JesusCaroCantante 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure if I left the names in reverse, the uad plugin with the hardware name in the video. Many would find that the hardware sounds better without knowing that it is really a sample of the plugin, Many comment only for sujestion, finding a big difference between both, Even though it is only a prejudice to know that one is the plugin and the other is the hardware.
@thevagabondification
@thevagabondification 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Is there anyway to download the session files?
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 9 ай бұрын
There is not… sorry… but i will do that on my future video’s. Which one would you pick?
@chickenlickin3820
@chickenlickin3820 3 жыл бұрын
how does the LA-3a compare to the compressor on the SSL 6 Peter Claes?
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
They both compress and that’s where the similarity ends... The comp of the SiX is VCA based and much faster...
@dutchpoetry9612
@dutchpoetry9612 3 жыл бұрын
overload sounds the best after the analog gear
@verbeeckjef5362
@verbeeckjef5362 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, Great review again!! Thank u. I am rather disappointed in the UAD simulation, (never used that one anyway) it sounds really awful on the snare channel. As you say, the Overloud one comes pretty close and is a discovery for me, but... nothing compares to the real deal me thinks. Greetings Jef
@TheSakuraGumiLTD
@TheSakuraGumiLTD 3 жыл бұрын
Htere's a insane diffrence... why emilate?
@bjorndanneby4957
@bjorndanneby4957 3 жыл бұрын
What dB setting (30 or 50) do you use for the UREI? Do yo have make the Bob Clearmountain modification?
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that my friend is explained in the video... 😉
@bjorndanneby4957
@bjorndanneby4957 3 жыл бұрын
So the fact that you explaining the Bob Clearmountain modidication and shows and tell the standard setting you mean that you using the modification because it would be to noisy for the previous owner and even for you.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you need the mid for them to become less noisy. Yes I use it with the 50dB setting
@ehav
@ehav 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a tele m82. Do you like it? I'm still messing with the settings.
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I leave it flat and use a bit of EQ on the desk!
@Douglas-jr2pf
@Douglas-jr2pf 3 жыл бұрын
The First audio problem is low sampling rate and FPGA/CPU bogging down apparently. The Plugins need 96K or better to help cut latency and improve accuracy. Second, nothing like the real analog balanced hardware to print drums. It's hard to know that all these plugins could not be tweaked a bit to "copy" the hardware including meters. Third A note for Plugin Software Developers: The evolution of these plugins for compression should offer quick Switch between LA2A, LA3A, 1176, SSL 4000, Dbx160, NEVE 500, and Fairchild. Then a multiband digital compressor.
@fausto_colella
@fausto_colella Жыл бұрын
hello Peter, do you know if the actual new updated UAD native version has slower attack time then dsp version you tested here ?
@MasterclaesVideos
@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын
Hi Fausto, I should give it a try, I don’t know if they updated the plugin. Give me some time and I will check!
@fausto_colella
@fausto_colella Жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos no prob thanks for reply, keep up with your good job here 👍 i'll probably would try the demo too
@fausto_colella
@fausto_colella Жыл бұрын
@@MasterclaesVideos just to inform finally had chance to make a comparison thanks to a friend that owns Apollo interface. And i can report the new native version of LA-3A plugin has slower attack time and faster release than the older DSP version. Now considering what i can hear in your test i guess the closer and better compromise to the real thing is probably the Overloud plugin. I look forward to have a test between Comp LA and UADx LA-3A 😎
@originart6828
@originart6828 3 жыл бұрын
It was interesting listening on laptop speakers sort of how many hear our productions. Without the comparison I'd think the CLA was the cat's meow. I totally hear the classic 70s/80's kinda kick snare breath sound in the hardware and the Overloud. Very similar and sounds fantastic!
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