The ULTIMATE Teletronix LA-2A SHOOTOUT against 10 dedicated PLUG-IN emulations.

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In this video, I do a shootout between my UA Classics Teletronix LA-2A and 10 Plugins.
You can buy the plugins here:
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Slate FG-2A: thmn.to/thoprod/508894?offid=...
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@zoo_sound Жыл бұрын

24:50 analog 25:25 overloud 26:00 t-racks 26:34 slate digital 26:16 NI softube 27:08 uad 27:42 uad 2 25:08 waves

@MasterclaesVideos 9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@thestingcrazy2125 Жыл бұрын

This is by far, the best and precise comparison on KZfaq. Unbelievably good

@user-dx9fz1pl5b Жыл бұрын

Are you idiot? Bullshit tests. Why Peak Reduction and GR are different on different plugins?

@MrMartijnDB 2 жыл бұрын

Would be very interested to see you shoot out the 'Analog Obsession' plugin line against your hardware and UAD plugins!

@butzwonker6632 3 жыл бұрын

Damnit I preferred the hardware every time.

@sK3LeTvM1 3 жыл бұрын

That is because you hear what you see...Check Andrew Scheps on YT. he says: Analog is a myth... And I'm afraid he's right.

@djhansol4224 3 жыл бұрын

great video! thanks for taking the time to make such a relaxed and straight forward video!

@austinhudson6943 2 жыл бұрын

Best shoutout I've seen! No fluff with a well structured video that made comparisons obvious with similar levels. Subscribed!

@1slandproductions238 3 жыл бұрын

awesome videos and honest reviews! love the honesty about gear even if you are biased because you own it! subscribed

@dagovevareberg 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a very interesting and good shootout! Seems to me that the saturation of the hardware unit is a very important part of the final sound. I like how you visualize your impressions with your face and using your hands! Keep up the good work - yes I've already liked and subscribed :)

@josephthepoet2856 3 жыл бұрын

glad I found you. great material. i love Slates 2A. one of my favorites

@enzoreycode3012 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this comparassions!!! You are a true legend :)

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you !!

@janukomski6728 3 жыл бұрын

I wish every shoutout and test on KZfaq could be that professional.

@nichttuntun3364 3 жыл бұрын

What work you put into this. Amazing job. Thank you.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@abhisheksrivastava3787 3 жыл бұрын

I jumped in joy with goosebumps the moment i saw the title! Thank you so much for LA2A shootout!!!!!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

@GregorysMode 2 жыл бұрын

i ve just trailed the Overloud LA and I love it. I got that one. Very versatile and sounds excellent.

@MK-fw4to 3 жыл бұрын

I've always thought that if I were to start a channel making shootouts, the quality would be this and no lower. GREAT JOB! Looking forward to more videos like this.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

ThNks !!

@theblowupdollsmusic Жыл бұрын

What an absolutely fantastic comparison of all these LA2A plug-ins. Thank you for taking the time to do this.

@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын

Hi Matt, thanks for the comment! 🙏🙏🙏

@majamusic14 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video! the Slate one is impressed!

@vlastneme 3 жыл бұрын

Sir this is the best proper test vid iv ever seen on youtube ... outstanding methodology .... liked/subscribed / belled ....

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@estevesmarco 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic review!!! I have the UAD and I really love the transformer emulation of the non-legacy models, watching your video I got a nice view of others developers. Thanx so much!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@WheelieMix 3 жыл бұрын

I know too well the time it takes to make such comparison, but yours goes even further, it's mental. Can't believe that anyone can watch that for free here. Congratz', excellent job !

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@cesmcmyth 3 жыл бұрын

Sr. I loved this, So clear. So neat and accurate. pffff. Very enjoyable and informative.Thank you

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@nodaysback8390 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent comparison. Thank you. Having all of the major versions stand up alongside each other with the hardware as a base line is very revealing. More videos like this with classic hardware would be great! Thanks again..

@MasterclaesVideos 2 жыл бұрын

It’s coming up! Now that concerts are not allowed anymore due to Covid, it will give me time to make new video’s!

@nodaysback8390 2 жыл бұрын

@@MasterclaesVideos Sub'd so I get the notification!

@boblowmixes2636 3 жыл бұрын

Wow what a great video Peter! I'm glad I found your channel.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@lnxguit 3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate your scientific approach. Great comparison!

@tomsiemerink8284 3 жыл бұрын

Love the combination of technical testing with objective figures and the subjective listening to the sound.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@demiangonzalezpetrich9166 3 жыл бұрын

Here is some serious knowledge about audio matters, instant suscribe!

@Eppie55 3 жыл бұрын

Great test, thanks you. I have the Klark LA2A and the Overloud and very happy with those two.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@alandeacon1988 2 жыл бұрын

I love the Cakewalk CA-2A - find it very smooth sounding - shame Peter couldn't register it...

@DerekSamuelReese 3 жыл бұрын

I have four words...This man is awesome

@musicsynctank 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the Video! I have the Slate, UAD legacy, Softube and T-Racks. This is a great comparison video, and confirms what my ears have told me. I've never got results with Softube or TRacks versions, but I use a bit of Slate or UAD on virtually every vocal bus.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@IamRami 3 жыл бұрын

@masterclaes as a couple of other people have mentioned, the "T-racks" was in Limit mode. unfortunately. however this is one of the best if not the best comparison videos I have ever seen. Subscribed and liked off of one video! Great job. You should have way more subscribers with content like this. Keep up the great work

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Oh and about the T-racks: if you have between 3 and 10dB of gain reduction, you are way past "the hard or soft knee", and the meter should actually show MORE compression than in compress mode since the Limit ratio is infinity:1

@jacobsmith1877 3 жыл бұрын

The Slate and Overloud versions were close enough for me. I'm a big fan of Slate's VMR and use it on most every track

@JonManness 3 жыл бұрын

I tend to grab the UAD silver one most times, but the gray one might start getting more attention from me when I want a warmer sound. Great comparison!

@hottubeproductions 3 жыл бұрын

Good stuff! Very informative! Thanks a lot for taking time to do it!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@hottubeproductions 3 жыл бұрын

@@MasterclaesVideos all it was done when I first time watched this video ;)

@snotnosedpunk7995 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video! Underrated channel for this kind of research, we need definitive testing like this in this world oversaturated by digital modeling, cloning, and big claims by marketing departments.

@MasterclaesVideos 10 ай бұрын

Many thanks!!!

@ronfrancois 3 жыл бұрын

I really liked the grey UAD on this acoustic guitar. It didn't move around in space as much as the hardware and the closest emulations. Sounded natural and perfect for the speed of the picking patterns. BTW great comparison vid.

@aldrinsereno 3 жыл бұрын

Proud to have the CompLA! Also some of the emu had a weird response on the low end. Great video as always!

@timoheinrich8763 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I also felt like a lot of the PIs should perform better if you have a sidechain eq that reduces the low end.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@7thday878 2 жыл бұрын

Your a great teacher! Thank you!

@miguelpessanha 3 жыл бұрын

Really nice comparison, it shows how important it is to calibrate things properly for a fair comparison. It would be great to hear it on vocals and bass to have a better understanding. Can't wait for the 1176 comparison!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@playjacks5637 2 жыл бұрын

Крут

@MargusAlviste 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Very good shootout and video!

@benspinks342 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Considering the crap Waves get dealt on forums they did a really good job with this. Native I think the Slate and Overloud did a great job! Overloud in particular.

@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Yes indeed, a lit of people think waves is crap but they did a pretty good job on this one! How would you rank the top 3?

@arturovidal5536 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Peter!, great comparison as always. Would've loved to listen to some vocals examples too.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@danieldebagge8983 2 жыл бұрын

exelente trabajo muchas gracias saludos de argentina

@audiosounddoctor5834 3 жыл бұрын

I like overloud a lot, I use it all the time

@J3.16- 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the awesome comparison

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@richardroskell3452 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you Peter. I liked the Slate Digital and UA emulations. Oh yeah, and the hardware version sounded pretty good too. :) I preferred the hardware sound overall. I found it smooth, warm, natural and transparent. The Slate and UA emulations came closest to that for me. Many of the other products had great sound, but were more distinctly compressing to my ear.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@ProAudioOM 3 жыл бұрын

1) Hardware 2) UAD Silver / Grey 3) Overloud 4) Slate 5) Waves

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@eugensagel9088 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, very good comparison! take more plugins in the future! for example: acustica audio, softube etc.

@SantaAgain77 2 жыл бұрын

Thank You so much, Sir !! Very helpful !

@bosiiiiiiiiii 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! this kind of comparison you can be the best in youtube!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@GuttlinGuitars 3 жыл бұрын

wow, way over my head, but it is quite clear: you, sir, are a wizzard! super, Peter ! groetjes, karel

@studio.hermit 3 жыл бұрын

WoW thank you for making this outstanding comparison. You sir are really sympathetic 🌿

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@studio.hermit 3 жыл бұрын

@@MasterclaesVideos already did 🔥

@leonideremeev7823 3 жыл бұрын

Great job. Thanks a lot.

@alanschwartz4047 9 ай бұрын

Peter-Thank you!!! I'm a pro session guitarist in NYC, & after watching this fabulous shootout you gifted us with, I am getting the GAP 2A, & NOS tubes. I have the UAD,& the Waves 2A's. I can't compromise on intimate acoustic guitar tracks. You've sold me on hardware. I had mic pre clones for years-Aurora, Vintech, real V76's, UAD.... Just got a Neve 1073 lb, & it DESTROYS everything . Was trying to get away with plugins, but they simply won't do! You're the man!

@MasterclaesVideos 9 ай бұрын

Hi alan, thanks for the nice comment. Why did you pick that replica and not go for the real deal?

@alanschwartz4047 9 ай бұрын

I have it on great reliability that the GAP 2A w NOS tubes will get me where I want to be for like $500 USD. Im using a Stam ss-47 mk2 & Stam sa-87i

@simonmorris2291 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. For me the hardware sounded great, the plugins just had a tiny bit of brittleness in the top end of the transients. Was pleased that the waves did well (as I own it) - perhaps adjusting the reduction a bit would be good. Very intrigued by the adjustable harmonics of the Overloud, what a great feature! Slate sounded good too, perhaps not in direct comparison to your hardware but a nice enough sounding plug. UAD plugs are consistently excellent, nice to see the older model in there as my first studio (where I was a tea boy) had one.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@bradferguson9840 2 жыл бұрын

Love your comparisons - thank you! I would also like to see an 1176 shoot-out please. And yes, I've liked/subbed etc.

@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын

Hi brad, just need to find the time! But it is coming! I’m going to pick up my rev C from repair, so I can add that to my comparison

@lestybarrazaburgos3348 2 жыл бұрын

I like so much your comparision. Congratulation dude!!!

@MasterclaesVideos 9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Which one is your favourite?

@Folk661 3 жыл бұрын

They all seem to pump a little more than your hardware when those low notes hit. Surprisingly the waves was super close, I’m going to keep using that one. $$$ great test!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@ErnestoPossiSpanishVoiceOver 3 жыл бұрын

Great shootout! Congrats!

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@Alikhanlive 3 жыл бұрын

Finally ! no pep talk, no gimmics, just pure brilliance...loved your approach to a fair comparison

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

@galgogergo 3 жыл бұрын

I really liked the UA LA-2 (old one) plugin, and the Overloud had a nice way of working, although I'm not convinced it's how a real LA-2A would sound, I nevertheless really liked its sound! Thanks for the videos!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@jellewouters8 3 жыл бұрын

Superb... thnx Peter!

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@JohnSk82 3 жыл бұрын

Great video man

@lematrix01 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Well done

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@aviatedviewssound4798 3 жыл бұрын

thank you brother keep doing that great work scientist ;)

@ontogeny6474 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent -- thank you!

@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support!

@verbeeckjef5362 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter ! My heart goes out to the Grey UAD, but my ears say Waves cla 2a. Great shootout!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jef!

@scottyohorrison4066 3 жыл бұрын

I like the UA and the overloud. The overloud gem can be matched and give you the harmonics that are great for a certain sound.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed! I think if you use the Emphasis, you can get rid of the "grabbiness" on the low notes...

@artysanmobile 3 жыл бұрын

The UA emulations - 2a gray and 2a silver - come closest to the perfect musicality of the hardware. Waves is second best to my ears though GR/frequency mapping is off quite a bit. The rest are ‘forget it’ for me, as they all fail pretty badly at simulating the GR response of every 2A I’ve ever used. Btw, that’s a very nice UA hardware piece you have. It is spot on with my experience with vintage units.

@Padillajose 3 жыл бұрын

Great shootout!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jose!

@johniles Жыл бұрын

An amazing comparison

@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын

Hi John, thanks for the comment! Which one is your favourite?

@johniles Жыл бұрын

@@MasterclaesVideos Hi! Honestly, I don't want to sound too predictable, but UA replicas are pretty on point. I was debating if I should purchase apollo for the plugin emulations and your video convinced me to do so

@geertteekens 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and great faces!

@eugenioperez1414 3 жыл бұрын

This is beautiful, I want it with all the hardware emulated plugins hahaha

@tomlogghe6568 3 жыл бұрын

goed bezig ! mooi gedaan. grtz T.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Merci Tom!

@PereRevert 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic comparison technically wise. Keep going doing this Peter. Much appreciated the effort you put into this. What about a test of the Audioscape UA clones ?

@MasterclaesVideos 2 жыл бұрын

If Audioscape sends me their hardware I will be happy to include them in my tests!

@andrewfoster3319 3 жыл бұрын

awesome video thank you!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@lokalbredstudios Жыл бұрын

great content . I hope to own one of these soon

@DMKahn 3 жыл бұрын

Man that hardware, there's something about the dynamic character that is alive. Also it tamed the hi mid frequencies in such a pleasing way. None of the plugins touched that hardware. The UAD one was very close with regards to dynamics, but not that closewith the frequency response. With that said though, the Slate and UADs are really good for plugins!!

@assessoroffice7212 Жыл бұрын

THE UAD'S compressor action is very cheap.

3 жыл бұрын

This is the best comparison I've ever seen. You are really comparing those plugins, very few people take time to loudness match everything. Only thing missing are time stamps

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

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@chaddonal4331 9 ай бұрын

@@MasterclaesVideos How about adding those time stamps?

@fjlamela 3 жыл бұрын

First thanks for your video. Overloud makes very good plugins. They are undervalued because they don't do aggressive marketing like other companies. Their plugins sound really good and are a step up from other developers, they care a lot about aliasing and other problems of the inherently digital. Actually his comp la2a and 3a are the most similar to the real units that I have heard. As well as their comp670 and their compG. Thank you for your analysis and to unveil gems that would otherwise go unnoticed. PS: I do not work for Overloud nor do I receive any kind of financial benefit from them, I just work with some of their plugins and in my opinion they are fantastic.

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@ernestbuckley8671 2 жыл бұрын

Top notch shootout here. Thanks for all the work that went into this. When I have an extra 5gs lying around, I will get the hardware. Until then, UAD will have to do! 😂😂

@DICARLOPRODUCTIONS 3 жыл бұрын

Great review!!!!

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@eliashowe7115 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! A better way to match a bunch of compressors is to match them by their knee, otherwise you would get a different gain reduction in each one. That's why some of the compressors in your video didn't even compress it that much compare to others.

@abananainspace 2 жыл бұрын

great video, mucho more sophisticated in its approach than most other shootouts out there. An 1176 one would be awesome

@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын

The 1176 is top priority, just need to find some time!

@MrShwir 2 ай бұрын

@@MasterclaesVideos Please)

@MarcoS-pw9px 3 жыл бұрын

Really nice Comparison! :) Subscibed ;) Im looking forward for the 1176 comparison :-D

@yuriyoleynikoff Жыл бұрын

Your emotions are amazing! 😊👍

@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Which is your pick?

@yuriyoleynikoff Жыл бұрын

@@MasterclaesVideos Overloud Gem Comp LA

@devarni 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best comparison! I only miss the Trackcomp 2 by DMG Audio (circuit modelled)

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Not really a dedicated 2A clone, with too much user adjustable parameters to be a real 2A clone...

@simmermusic3894 9 ай бұрын

Very nice comparison, it's really interesting to hear how transparant and unbothered the hardware sounds, I get that vibe from the UAD legacy version as well as the sound remains stable. It would be interesting to hear the warm audio hardware unit too.

@MasterclaesVideos 9 ай бұрын

Hi! A hardware shootout is on my to do list! But if you had to pick one plug-in, which would it be?

@simmermusic3894 9 ай бұрын

@@MasterclaesVideos I have all of the UAD LA-2A plugins and when mixing vocals for example, after going into the EQ to do some corrections, I'd first use the UAD 1176 (ratio: 4, attack: 5 and release: 7) tone shaping with in and outputs.. Then my preference is to go into the UAD LA-2A Silver one to mellow everything out.. To me the silver one is the most useful out of the bunch.. From there I'd add EQ for character like the UAD pultec, and then some de-essing (soothe2 or Rdeesser), a bit of Rvox compression to push it forward and then a low cut on the EQ (Pro-Q3) to prevent additional lows from the compression. From there depending on the songs needs I'd add a touch of harmonizer (eventide) and some saturation (SSL or Decapitator). Then on the send busses Id have a bunch of different reverbs, shorts, longs and delay. This is probably more than you asked for but maybe it's helpful to someone...

@nicolasresnikof5201 3 жыл бұрын

Michael Brauer, is that you???? XD

@robshrock-shirakbari1862 3 жыл бұрын

lol

@iangomes 3 жыл бұрын

Another surprise that almost none of them can replicate the UA! I thought a lot of them had the same issue with being too aggressive (especially on the low notes). My favourite/closest was the UAD LA2, surprisingly. The other UAD were the closest with the Slate being next in line to me.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Hardware still beats the plugins.. Happy to have the plug-ins if I run out of resources though...

@Alexeyalexeev. Жыл бұрын

Great!!!!

@Cryovile 3 жыл бұрын

waiting for your 1176, pultec and ssl buss comp comparisons :D

@sun_tzu777 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, and a veri-mu

@mastermindesrpr 3 жыл бұрын

Slate's the winner to my ears (I mean nothing like the real stuff)... Thank you for this comparison!!!

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@jwhelan709 3 жыл бұрын

Thought the UA gray and Legacy #3 were closest but many had a pushed sound that seemed to boost 300 hz or so to me. Hardware was transparent and balanced. My opinion only of course

@Joe_Rainey 2 жыл бұрын

What a great video

@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late reply. Thank you! Which one would you choose to use?

@Avatar7x7 3 жыл бұрын

I like it when a plugin manufacturer leaves out the noise or gives you the choice to add or subtract noise.. As a rule I hate noise and view it as an improvement of the technology if I can get the same sound without noise !

@menasafwat4951 2 жыл бұрын

Great work , waiting to see 1176 , 670 vari mu , pultec eq videos soon. 🙏🙏🙏

@MasterclaesVideos Жыл бұрын

I just got a pair of audioscape eqp’s, they make a good basis for a comparison. The 1176 is going to be a tough one because of all the revisions.

@slowestjabroni 3 жыл бұрын

You've done god's work here. NGL though the best 2A emulation is the DMG TrackComp imo. The rest sound terrible besides the UAD and Slates!

@deonbolander6766 3 жыл бұрын

My goto channel for shootouts. Highly recommended! No hidden agenda, when something doesn't do the job that well, he's not too shy to comment on it.. highly appreciate that!

@sybillesztorm9006 3 жыл бұрын

Overloud had the most depth, UAD grey the closest, T racks the richest saturation (and best sounding but need more compression to really hear it saturates in a soft way).