The UNDEAD HORDE - BG3 Necromancer Honour Build Guide

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Cephalopocalypse

Cephalopocalypse

Күн бұрын

Want to command a horde of undead, sweeping all before you in a tide of flesh and bone? Want to play Starcraft while everyone else plays D&D? Want to do it all while being one of the most powerful, versatile classes in the game? Look no further!
This character uses Necromancy School Wizard to get massive numbers of undead and power them up the mightiest force the world has ever seen!
Full detailed level guide from 1-12, including stats, feats, skills, items, spells, and abilities!
0:00 Intro and Build Goals
1:47 Level 1 Build
5:41 Subclass Selection and Grim Harvest
9:39 Level 2 Spells
11:45 Feat Selection
13:50 Level 3 Spells
15:53 Necromancer's Best Feature
18:20 Skeletons or Zombies?
21:17 Should we Stay In Wizard?
22:58 Level 4 Spells
24:40 Feat Selection
25:54 Level 5 Spells
28:19 Level 6 Spells
29:34 Dip or Feat?
31:16 Zombies, Skeletons, Ghouls, Or Flying Ghouls?
33:07 Mummies
35:19 The Power of Aid
35:50 Items

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@Pr3mmz
@Pr3mmz 2 ай бұрын
I like the way you mentioned the progress from early game play style, lots of build videos go to the end game build that skip the hardest part when the characters have less power and struggle every fight
@IceGavel
@IceGavel 5 ай бұрын
I'm planning a DUrge run, RPing as Emperor Palpatine, for one of my next playthroughs. You just provided me with the stormtroopers, thanks!
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
Good news is the skeleton's accuracy will at least be very in-character!
@alfonsosalemi
@alfonsosalemi 3 ай бұрын
Just wanna say your builds have been a blast to implement on my honor mode runs as both a tav and origin character, keep up the great work you’re killing it!
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Glad you're enjoying them :D
@lo-rez
@lo-rez 5 ай бұрын
Very informative and thorough, nice work
@Logank192
@Logank192 4 ай бұрын
One thing that can eventually pay off for this build is the Abyss Beckoners (gives summons resistance to every damage type except psychic) gloves in Act 1. They force a madness check on your summons, but flying ghouls are immune to it.
@LordAryu
@LordAryu 4 ай бұрын
Although one drawback is that you need to be within the range of the gloves for the effect, and flying ghouls due to their mobility are likely to be in the frontlines, away from your necromancer
@phenomeenah-yar
@phenomeenah-yar 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Been wanting to make a necro wizard.
@Marshal_Dunnik
@Marshal_Dunnik 5 ай бұрын
After winning my golden dice - in part due to the excellent advice on this channel - I'm considering a Dark Urge run, and Necromancer seems like a perfect thematic fit
@charleswilliam8335
@charleswilliam8335 4 ай бұрын
Your videos are really helping with my understanding of the game, you're doing great, keep making them! when you can, haha.
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I really appreciate the support - glad you're enjoying the videos! More every day :D
@aratakeneikawa6589
@aratakeneikawa6589 5 ай бұрын
Great video as always! Spore druid, and hunter ranger next! Imo spore druid is just a better necromancer.
@charleswilliam8335
@charleswilliam8335 4 ай бұрын
Ceph, you make such great videos and really know what you are talking about. I want to have a more complete understanding of the game and it's mechanics. I'm in act 3 and I just don't feel like I've been utilizing my characters and their powers in the most efficient and effective manner. What is the best way for me to gain this knowledge and understanding? Simply playing and watching build videos? I don't feel like that's enough. Maybe I'm just overthrowing it? Any insight would be greatly appreciated
@kevinmiller7408
@kevinmiller7408 5 ай бұрын
One thing to mention about zombies, it's totally ok if they take damage, hell I'd argue it's even better if they take all the damage. Well as long as you don't lose all your zombies that is, they'll just make more zombie hp all by themselves. My biggest complaint is that you can't dismiss the "extra" zombies, having a bunch of noisy dying (re-dying) undead can get pretty annoying heh.
@KhorneDeth1
@KhorneDeth1 5 ай бұрын
As you said, Lvl 6 Necro kinda gives you everything you came for. So for a pure necro, I'd rather do 6/6 split with Sorc making sure to respec at 7 to take Sorc 1 > Wiz 6 > Sorc 6 so that the last new class chosen is Wizard and all spells and scrolls and items cast with INT. But you also get CON save proficiency and metamagics to do typical Sorc shenanigans on top of being a basically full power Necromancer. Just take non-DC and utility spells/cantrips from the Sorc levels like Magic Missile, Shield, Misty Step, Minor Illusion, etc. Then you don't have to waste Wiz slots preparing those since you'll already have them from Sorc. For Lvl 6 slot, I much prefer to upcast Elemental to a Myrmidon over the mummy, even if it's less thematic, so not worried about losing Lvl 11 Wiz.
@LordAryu
@LordAryu 4 ай бұрын
If you want to play as the optimized build this makes sense for sure, but even on HM, I'm looking for a build I can immerse myself in for roleplay, so I'd still prefer to go with Create Undead personally.
@SaiDeLaRai
@SaiDeLaRai 2 ай бұрын
The crypt lord ring gives you the Lv 6 Create Undead necromancy spell. So you can double dip in roleplay and optimizing through multiclassing
@cyrylkowalczyk9392
@cyrylkowalczyk9392 2 ай бұрын
I agree! I went with 6 level of Tempest Domain instead of Sorcerer though.
@priceaction1676
@priceaction1676 5 ай бұрын
Post a short gameplay of your builds to get an idea of what they do and their combat style. Thanks!
@matthewsaxon3038
@matthewsaxon3038 3 ай бұрын
A short section of combat clips at the start of the video would actually be a great idea imo
@LordAryu
@LordAryu 4 ай бұрын
This seems like a fun build for Vampire Ascendant Astarion (especially if you're playing him as the Player Character)
@Divock
@Divock 2 ай бұрын
One thing about ghouls vs skeletons and flying ghouls in particular is that flying ghouls are MUCH more flexible to move around in combat, to the point that I consider them better than the regular ones even with the marginally less survivability - yes it’s possible to micro them in a large portion of fights to avoid this but there are some locations where it’s basically impossible to enter in with your party not clumped up and if a steel watcher goes early it can walk sometimes just walk up to you and slam your party so I like to mitigate that at least a little bit with summons that have mobility
@blackhat4206
@blackhat4206 5 ай бұрын
Staff of Cherished Necromancy would be perfect for this build. Especially if you learn Dethrone, but even Blight becomes viable when you’re casting it for free.
@Neonmirrorblack
@Neonmirrorblack 5 ай бұрын
Probably shouldn't build around a bugged item that will likely get patched.
@blackhat4206
@blackhat4206 5 ай бұрын
@Neonmirrorblack If it gets patched, just swap it out with Markoheshkir. It isn't like any other aspect of the build would change. They might even leave it in, considering they haven't nerfed tavern brawler, for example.
@AntiX_in_jeans
@AntiX_in_jeans 5 ай бұрын
Staff of Cherished Necromancy was bugged (and probably still is) as it doesn't consume life essence and gives a possibility to cast much more necromancy spells. Bad that there is no Harm scroll in the game, but there's Dethrone in Karsus vault, and even Eyebite or CoD/Blight can dealt OK damage.
@daisycarbonell
@daisycarbonell 5 ай бұрын
Well this was posted quite conveniently. I was just thinking about making a necromancy build because I'm curious how that works out.
@miken8875
@miken8875 4 ай бұрын
Planning on using this to turn Gale into my personal Kel'thuzad and customize my Durge to look like Arthas
@Will_Tree
@Will_Tree Ай бұрын
Just so you know, there's a ring that lets you summon a mummy. Nice video!
@InvaderTroy
@InvaderTroy 5 ай бұрын
22:48 the crypt lord ring from mystic carrion could potentially be an alternative to 11 wizard if you want to MC
@verybrownsalmon
@verybrownsalmon 3 ай бұрын
Yea, and you can go 6 Necro/6 Spores, not losing on Mummies and gaining mushroom zombies, being level 12 wizard essentially with shield, in medium armor and having 24 temp hit points from Druid
@fil_berbert
@fil_berbert 4 ай бұрын
Hey, I think your videos are awesome, but could you show some of the battle mechanics as well? I think this would be a great addition to the whole explanation.
@lukasmuller7736
@lukasmuller7736 5 ай бұрын
Which companions and which builds for them would you recommend? You mentioned Druid and cleric, that fits perfectly, cuz right now I’m running the necro with Halsin and Shadowheart. Both build from your videos and my fourth is Karlach as melee, also build after one of ur builds. Is there anything u would recommend to focus on? Thanks for your work btw. Ur Awesome! :)
@blackmagichour
@blackmagichour 5 ай бұрын
A paladin. Their Auras can buff nearby summons
@dylc3373
@dylc3373 5 ай бұрын
Oath breaker paladin, spores druid, necromancy wizard, just about any cleric.
@noden1739
@noden1739 2 ай бұрын
Ray of sickness is slept on heavily in act 1 it slaps act 2 its still solid for a lot of fights but there are more resistant and immune enemies in act 2 and again it hits hard in act 3 since upcasting it is so good
@SaiDeLaRai
@SaiDeLaRai 2 ай бұрын
You should maybe consider the helpfulness of gaining the Crypt Lord Ring in Act IiI. Gives the Create Undead spell, saving you the need to level Wizard and perhaps instead multiclass
@OakandIV
@OakandIV 5 ай бұрын
This was fun! I don’t think you mentioned the staff that you can get in act 3 from the mummy quest that gives you unlimited free necromancy spells? It’s perfect for this build. I usually love playing summoners, but I have mixed feelings about them in BG three. Melee summons tend to be slow and do low damage, and enemies don’t usually prioritize them (at least in my play throughs). Summons with flight or ranged attacks are better, and at least suck up a few hits. Weirdly the Flaming Sphere and Spiritual Weapon are among the best summons, because you can pop them out right next to an enemy and only be out a level two spell slot while still maybe getting an enemy to waste an attack or two.
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
Yep agreed - that combined with the buggy and inconsistent movement system makes summon builds pretty janky to actually to play I find. Which is really too bad!
@Nitsujcm2600
@Nitsujcm2600 3 ай бұрын
Warlock that fears all on crit with this build sounds interesting
@brianspeigel1714
@brianspeigel1714 5 ай бұрын
Great build! What stat would you recommend I dump if I wanted to put some points into charisma? This build doesn't really fit Gale imo but I'd like to use this for a new Tav.
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
Early on you should be relatively safe dumping wisdom, though you'll definitely want to use silence/calm emotions for the harpy fight. Later you can respec to lower int and use the circlet of intelligence, and then finally dump dex and use the gloves instead once you reach levels where you need higher int to land spells.
@brianspeigel1714
@brianspeigel1714 5 ай бұрын
@@Cephalopocalypse awesome thanks. I'm still pretty new to BG3 definitely giving you a follow!
@ranmashiah1999
@ranmashiah1999 29 күн бұрын
You can use Create undead one per long rest from the item: "crypt lord ring".
@user-yi4jf7ur7f
@user-yi4jf7ur7f 5 ай бұрын
I want a necro wiz + warlock build, maybe combined with a Durge play through, but not sure on race. Open to suggestions.
@Durrtyboy
@Durrtyboy 3 ай бұрын
i run karlach with scratch so she has a pet and i make her pally for auras, gale is set up for as many summons as possible and magic i see fit, shadowheart is cleric for heals buffs and another undead summon, im beastmaster for more pets and sniper playstyle and cover picking locks and such but i love my team decent army
@robertboss2581
@robertboss2581 4 ай бұрын
Been thinking about playing a necro wizard that plays close up. Basically, with war caster/vampiric touch you run around touching enemies to death while you siphon away their life. You might not do a ton of damage but you would be super tanky with the amount of hitpoint you keep gaining from your class passive and the spell itself.
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 4 ай бұрын
I have a similar build coming up soon! :D
@robertboss2581
@robertboss2581 4 ай бұрын
@Cephalopocalypse Nice ! I definitely look forward to that! I would recommend trying to work in the dual wielder feat so you can wield double staffs and get the extra AC. You would have to use the hags hair to get both warcaster and dual wielder feat, but I think it would be totally worth it!
@MrSilvanous
@MrSilvanous 3 ай бұрын
I noticed on this build that you didn't discuss race and went straight to Human; would you comment upon the reasons if any behind this?
@cannyvalley8522
@cannyvalley8522 3 ай бұрын
Will zombie Konrad benefit from necromancer wizard class features like extra hp?
@Jonchua1
@Jonchua1 5 ай бұрын
I would recommend for those picking tihs build to instead grab the alert feat first. That way you don't get CC'd at the start - especially for honour mode.
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
Alert is always a great pick, especially for honour mode, so no argument here!
@FengNirothar
@FengNirothar 5 ай бұрын
I played as a Necromancer for quite a while in my first 2 character run, but eventually ended up switching off, simply because I couldn't find the corpses to start the day off with summon wise XD It was fun while it lasted, though
@Neonmirrorblack
@Neonmirrorblack 5 ай бұрын
With my playthrough (that I gave up on), I just collected tons of corpses and stashed them in my camp chest. Problem is that for whatever reason you get accused of "theft" or performing a criminal act sometimes when removing them from the chest. Also, NPCs in town would always go insane and just start running all over the place to get away from my summons. This was a particularly bad problem in Act 2.
@charleswilliam8335
@charleswilliam8335 4 ай бұрын
Counter spell : I've found it very useful, however when it's come up a choosable reaction, I have different levels I could use, how do you know what level to choose? Does it have to do with checking the enemy that casted its level?
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 4 ай бұрын
Great question - counterspell is one of the most confusing mechanics in the game and BG3 makes no effort to explain it at all. TLDR: If you REALLY want to counter something, use your highest level slot So the spell will counter any spell of the level you cast it at and below automatically. If you try to counter something higher level, you have to make a check (which in BG3 I think is bugged and you always fail, unless they've fixed that). Basically, you want to use a slot at least the level of the spell you're countering. Most of the time that will be easy if you know the spell. Fireball is level 3, so you can use a level 3 counterspell on it. However, enemies can sometimes outplay by casting using higher level spell slots, and you have no way of knowing if they're doing this other than experience and guesswork. It's a tricky balance to hit, but as you get a feel for the game you can usually guess what level slot you need to use.
@b.v.2705
@b.v.2705 4 ай бұрын
I plan on going 4 Oathbreaker (because of control undead) and 8 Necromancer, would I still be able to learn 6th level scrolls? I’m not looking for a huge army btw, more of a small entourage of buffed undead.
@ZoldZsolt
@ZoldZsolt 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately not: as you can see in the video, you get access to 6th lvl spells at lvl11, and thats where you can learn 6th lvl spells (either from scrolls or from leveling). Furthermore, you don't need to be lvl4 oathbreaker, you get control undead at lvl3. I presume you going to take this 4/8 route to gain the 3rd feat? I myself took the 3/9 route mainly coz i wanted the 2nd 5th lvl spell slot for my smites, took Auntie Ethels hair with +1 to char, GWM and later +2 to INT, and fed all the hill giant/cloud giant elixirs to my Tav. I gotta say he is one of the most versatile builds i've ever seen (outside of a swords bard ofc.), he is the face of the party, hits single target like a truck, excels at aoe, crowd control, tanky as hell plus tons of summons. If you go with 4/8 i'd recommend you pick up dual wielding and then you can rock a Staff of Cherished Necromancy/Markoheshkir combo, as both of them were still bugged while i was doing my playtrough (basically the necro staff doesn't consume life essences and the Markoheshkir doesn't consume spell slots and its own effect if done right). If those bugs were fixed, you could still go for an ASI and bump your INT or Char whichever you prefer. I don't like to use Birtright on my Tav as i have much better options late game, so i'll just bump my Char to 20 with mirror and leave INT at 18. Good luck, and have fun!
@deodezero5611
@deodezero5611 4 ай бұрын
In honour mode should you ignore necromancy of thay book? I know there are consequences(cursed debuff) for failing reading the book so I guess another question are there easier ways to pass the consequences if they happen? If you fail reading it can you still read it again after removing the curse?
@riolkin
@riolkin Ай бұрын
I know this is late but what I did was wait until I got the Tharchiate codex before even attempting to put the book together. made it a lot easier.
@SpartanAltair15
@SpartanAltair15 5 ай бұрын
First for the algorithm amazing guide 10/10
@Jakepf
@Jakepf 5 ай бұрын
Could you do a video on a Shadowheart in the Light subclass next? I can't find a decent one that is useful
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
You're in luck! I already did - you can find it under "The best support cleric in bg3" here on the channel :D
@Jakepf
@Jakepf 5 ай бұрын
@@Cephalopocalypse WAIT REALLY!! wow I totally missed it bahaha, thank you!!!
@knowhopenow8862
@knowhopenow8862 4 ай бұрын
I'll start that usually you are top notch for builds, ol' palpatine for example, however this feels like necro-lite in all honesty, focusing on summons only... I'd recommend 1 sorcerer for CON save, 2 spore druid for your haste spores (sporekeeper) 1 cleric for inflict wounds (crit ability) then your wizard levels. Right now (patch dependant) cherished necro staff is a must. You also skip that false life is a necro spell too, castable at 6th level (arcane battery or cherished) for maintaining symbiotic entity longer. I'd also argue dual wielding staves is essential, they have some of the most effective and impactful bonuses, such as arcane battery and spell save DC increases, at end game woe, cherished, marko etc.. You can still summon all you want out of combat ready ofc...
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 4 ай бұрын
That just sounds like a pretty different build - and not really one that focuses on what Necromancer Wizard does, which is all related to Animate Dead. I do think that would be a cool build to explore, but it's just a totally different character.
@knowhopenow8862
@knowhopenow8862 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the reply. Perhaps it is... However for anyone watching where you offer the chance to take levels in other classes, 2 levels in spore druid and 1 in any Cleric is a perfect partner, granting yourself (and the team depending on proximity) on demand haste. 10 in Wizard isn't essential. You still keep animate dead and danse macabre and summons the same amount as the featured build with the added bonus of a strong melee attack and greater team utility. As always good stuff, keep it up! peACE @@Cephalopocalypse
@lilmisu3667
@lilmisu3667 5 ай бұрын
Hello Cephalopocalypse, I've got a question that's a little bit besides the point, but you're my bg3 senpai so I figured I'd ask you. It's wizard related, just not necromancer related. I'm building your invincible wizard tank (abjuration) and I might be doing something wrong. Does the shield spell not grant abjuration charges because its a reaction? would it matter if i took it from the sorceror dip? For some reason whenever I cast shield in combat I dont get any abjuration charges and idk if it's a bug or I misread something or did something wrong. Do you have any intel on this issue?
@blackhat4206
@blackhat4206 5 ай бұрын
The shield spell is the only abjuration spell I know of that doesn’t give stacks of Ward.
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
It's a bug, unfortunately. The abjuration feature only triggers from "casting" a spell and reactions don't use the cast interface, so the game never checks anything related to that. It also means you can cast shield while raging, which shouldn't be possible
@blackhat4206
@blackhat4206 5 ай бұрын
@@Cephalopocalypse Thanks for the clarity. I knew it didn't work right, but I didn't know why for certain. Figured it had to be because reactions weren't getting counted as spells even though they consume a spell slot.
@lilmisu3667
@lilmisu3667 5 ай бұрын
@@Cephalopocalypse aw man, thats very unfortunate. i like the idea of abjuration wizard, but i feel like the spell list gives one so little to work with; personally i dislike the idea of 'wasting' spell slots outside of combat for the sake of getting the charges. I was hoping I could just go get hit on purpose and become self-sufficient using shield at least early on that is, my sorc wizard gale is level 4 at the minute so i didn't yet gain access to glyph of warding and what not
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
@@lilmisu3667 At low levels you can use Arcane Lock - an alternative if you're willing to put up with some busywork is to take two levels of warlock and take the mage armor invocation. Cast it for free, then equip armor (which will dispel it), remove armor, cast again - repeat until your ward is maxed out.
@alexw4482
@alexw4482 5 ай бұрын
Imo if you want an army spore Druid does it better, they get way more summons. 6 spore druid/6 necro wiz is the cookie cutter build with the most damage. 11 spore druid/1 wiz gives you access to more support spells like heroes feast to have bigger meat shields. Staff of cherished necromancy completely breaks any of these builds by letting you cast necromancy spells without a spell slot. Upcast your summons, upcast blight every turn for 10d8 damage aoe.
@metalfanzbodie
@metalfanzbodie 5 ай бұрын
Question: if I start as a level one wizard, and then move into sorcerer for the last eleven levels, do spells scribed from scrolls use my intelligence or charisma?
@themeltingicecap
@themeltingicecap 5 ай бұрын
Intelligence, and you won't be able to prepare many spells. I'd use the Warped Headband of Intellect if that's your plan.
@seaurchinayano6140
@seaurchinayano6140 5 ай бұрын
Intelligence, but you can make it work by taking haste, long strider etc from wizard and fire ball and the other spells that require good spellcasting modifier from sorcerer. You will be struggling with the amount of prepared wizard spells tho without some int and only one wizard level
@common_undead
@common_undead 5 ай бұрын
spells scribed from scrolls will use Int, you're learning them as a wizard. Items that give you spells however (like Kareska's favor giving you chain lightning) will use Charisma, since it uses the spellcasting modifier of the last new class added.
@TheDeplorableNeanderthal
@TheDeplorableNeanderthal 5 ай бұрын
I’m saving my book and gem to turn minthara into a Necro and quazit
@geraltgrey-mane695
@geraltgrey-mane695 3 ай бұрын
I realy have started to enjoy and even LOVE :D using Posion cloud + my ghouls which is ofc immune hehe. Anyone got more necromancer tips? (at the end of Act 2) I think :D Btw I highly recommend if your gonna mainly use ghouls as your minions, you must use "Abyss Beckoners" :) as they are immune againt the gloves madness, so you gain more buffs then just the Circle of bone item. Just tip I found.
@vonhellman
@vonhellman 5 ай бұрын
I was hoping they included Death domain cleric to see what cool combinations we could get with necromancer. Sadly we didn't get that.
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
Yeah - I know there'd be a lot to add, but more cleric domains would have been great - especially Twilight or Darkness for shadowheart of course, rather than the half-finished version of trickery we got
@fluffydragon3200
@fluffydragon3200 5 ай бұрын
21:30 I can still be a Lv.1 Wizard/Lv.11 other full spellcaster and still get all the wizard spells!? 👀✨️ Is it still not gone!?
@TheJPJT1234
@TheJPJT1234 4 күн бұрын
So... we could level 12 a wizard, get the create undead spell (which i am pretty sure doesn't have a scroll) then respec into 6 wizard/6 spore druid? 🤔
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 4 күн бұрын
Sadly when you learn the spell from levelling up, you won't get to keep it after respeccing - it's only ones you learn from scrolls that can stick around (and as you say, there's no scroll of create undead for whatever reason)
@Steveoshepard
@Steveoshepard 4 ай бұрын
Does Grim Harvest work on multiple enemies. For example lets say you use fireball at lvl 3. I know if you kill one enemy it will give you 6HP. But if you killed 10 enemys in a single turn would you get 60HP or 6HP.
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 4 ай бұрын
Sadly Grim Harvest only works 1/turn, meaning you can only get the bonus once even if you kill lots of things.
@Steveoshepard
@Steveoshepard 4 ай бұрын
@@Cephalopocalypse Ok thanks im suprised why larian did that cause they are acting like wizards can only kill 1 enemy at a time. When spells like fireball, Call lightning can kill multiple enemys with 1 cast.
@Jakepf
@Jakepf 5 ай бұрын
16:09 thank god that lvl 6 is when I can actually use it haha. I am lvl 6 rn
@bobnewkirk7003
@bobnewkirk7003 5 ай бұрын
Given the wizards ability to eat scrolls I feel like the 11-1 split with cleric is the best split. you start with heavy armor proficiency, get whatever cleric buff you choose, and then have access to aid on the necromancer itself. I use the same trick on my Spore druid with 1 level of cleric and 1 level of wizard sometime after level 8.
@jsgdk
@jsgdk 5 ай бұрын
Not for this built, you want the higher level necromancer subclass stuff.
@bobnewkirk7003
@bobnewkirk7003 5 ай бұрын
@@jsgdk just to clarify I meant 11 necromancer and 1 cleric. You are right necro 6 and the extra hp are super important for the build.
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
Also a good call! Though Aid is level 2, so you need 3 cleric levels for it (unless the wizard can learn it from a scroll? If so that's a bug). I like Cleric 3 / Sorc 3 / Wiz 6 if you don't care about the mummy
@bobnewkirk7003
@bobnewkirk7003 5 ай бұрын
@@Cephalopocalypse as Aid is an abjuration spell I'm not inclined to call learning it from a scroll a bug. Its not normally available to wizard correct, but this is part of the can of worms Lairon opened with Scribing. Most of the non-wizard spells are not scrolls (bless, lesser rest, moonbeam etc), so the devs must not have had issues with Aid.
@VortexThePrime
@VortexThePrime 5 ай бұрын
"Because NPCs will run away from your zombies" Wait, I thought they changed that months ago? Or did they just not change it for undead? Itd make sense, granted in Sorcerous Sundries there is someone literally selling a zombie to a woman lol. She seems grossed out but not frightened.
@serdarmirzaseyyar3218
@serdarmirzaseyyar3218 5 ай бұрын
My biggest issue is that we have to control summons so fights takes so long
@pendragon8185
@pendragon8185 5 ай бұрын
Ya I am hoping someone makes a mod that gives them a basic AI to make it so you don't have to control each one of them
@Unknowngnostic
@Unknowngnostic 5 ай бұрын
This whole game is taking me too long. I'm at last light inn, and I'm over 200 hours in lol Granted I do leave the game on when I do stuff often. Even fall asleep when I have it paused or something. Or whatever I have to do around the house. But often I'll sit for hours,3 or 4 at a time playing the game but feel like I've gotten nowhere story wise, but I've done a lot somehow. Just inventory management takes a lot of my time. Or swapping gear when I get new stuff and trying to find synergy between item effects
@fireblades38
@fireblades38 5 ай бұрын
The ghouls from danse macrbe are ai controlled for some reason
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
Yep - especially because movement in this game is so buggy, you need to triple check every important move before making it. That's basically why I haven't actually played a summoner for more than a few hours. AI control wouldn't really solve the problem either - you'd lose so much power because of your summons doing dumb things.
@pendragon8185
@pendragon8185 5 ай бұрын
Ya and I agree, but it be nice to at least have a toggle, you can just summon so many and controlling them each it the most time consuming class in the game, I mean the spore undead that rise are Ai controlled and the Dance zombies but that is about it and it's funny because if you do go full summoner, it is actully quite strong because you can have so many out at 1 time. I went 6 Wizard and 6 Druid for all the summons in the world and my god you can walk with a army.@@Cephalopocalypse
@alvinbgyt5143
@alvinbgyt5143 5 ай бұрын
All necro skills demand to be up close. My solution is to deep one level cleric. Life cleric so you can add lore like life and death
@mightymanofvalour8691
@mightymanofvalour8691 3 ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me how this wizard spell learning thing works please? My Gale is 2 warlock, 1 cleric and 9 wizard and I can only learn level 5 spells, not 6. From what I can tell, the build is equivalent to a level 11 spellcaster right?
@Decus86
@Decus86 3 ай бұрын
No, that is lvl10 caster because warlock levels do not count as regular caster levels. So you only gain 9 from wiz and 1 from cleric. This is why 6/6 wiz/druid works, cuz it's still full lvl 12 caster
@mightymanofvalour8691
@mightymanofvalour8691 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply. But level 6 spell slots are given at level 10 (minus the ability to use level 6 spells). Shouldn’t I have at least the ability to upcast other spells to level 6?
@Decus86
@Decus86 3 ай бұрын
@@mightymanofvalour8691 no, lvl 6 spell slots are given at caster lvl 11 1: lvl 1 spell slots 3 lvl 2 spell slots 5: lvl 3 spell slots 7: lvl 4 spell slots 9: lvl 5 spell slots 11: lvl 6 spell slots So a 6 sorc, 6 druid would have lvl 3 sorc spells and lvl 3 druid spells with the ability to upcast them with lvl 4, 5 and 6 spell slots. Meanwhile 9 sorc, 1 cleric and 2 warlock has lvl 5 sorc spells, lvl 1 cleric spells, lvl 1 warlock spells and ability to upcast sorc and cleric spells as lvl 5 spells.
@Decus86
@Decus86 3 ай бұрын
@@mightymanofvalour8691 Nope, lvl6 spell slots are gained at caster lvl 11. It's new spell slot tier every odd level. 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and 11. caster lvl 10 just gives you a 2nd lvl5 spell slot. Make for example 10 wizard, 2 paladin and you have caster lvl 11 and a lvl 6 spell slot. 10 wizard and 2 fighter however is stuck with lvl 5 spell slots same as 2 level dip to warlock.
@mightymanofvalour8691
@mightymanofvalour8691 3 ай бұрын
@@Decus86ok thanks
@joshhobbs4862
@joshhobbs4862 2 ай бұрын
🔥💀🔥
@frankovercrest2317
@frankovercrest2317 12 күн бұрын
Friendly lich gang!
@douglasfugate1755
@douglasfugate1755 2 ай бұрын
You like annoying people by selecting True Strike. I approve.
@MrNevan
@MrNevan 5 ай бұрын
The game doesn't provide any offensive magical item for characters that want to do zoo I wish there is aura item for summon to give higher attack roll buff or anything close to that also the defensive choice is pretty bad (the glove that give resistances) due to the drawback is waaaayyyy to punishing
@ytwatcher4204
@ytwatcher4204 4 ай бұрын
You can use Phalar Aluve (but its for every build with many attacks) but thats all comes to my mind for now. But playing necromancer just gives you free spells, damage, hp to your eam and stun possibility ant the end: Staff of Cherished necromancy basically says that you have necro summons for free (no spellslots used) and enables normally weak spells (Blight and circle of death, Eyebite[unlimited disadvantage on save! Better than hold person/beast, finnaly, for 6th level spell...]) for constant use (and heal your wizard, so you can tank with them and end fights with full health).
@user-wv8yk3xu4h
@user-wv8yk3xu4h 4 ай бұрын
There is necromancy, and there's summoning. Tempest 3/Spores8/Wizard 1. 1 Myrmidon, 1 Deva, 2 Woodland being, 2 minor elemental, 4 danse macabre, 1/2 animate dead or more upcasted, 6 fungal infestation zombies, 1 Shovel/Scratch, 1 Connor the undead husband, 1 Us, 1 Spiritual weapon, 1 flaming sphere, 1 mage hand, all Aided by you, longstridered by you(that's a pain). Oh ,and you at the back casting Water with access to all lighning spells and Destructive wrath.
@slaminjaminotter7286
@slaminjaminotter7286 2 ай бұрын
I actually disagree on the answer to summons being skeletons. While skeletons are definitely better when you’re focus firing a few strong enemies, the zombies are INCREDIBLE in fights with a large number of medium-small health enemies. An example would be if you have to fight the Duergar in Grymforge, your zombie just has to kill one of them and the rot snowballs into a gang of free damage running around beating the shit out of each duergar.
@kshea4231
@kshea4231 5 ай бұрын
dear god a full summon party sounds soo tedious lol, i know its crazy strong, but oof haha
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
Definitely something you only play if you like microing units!
@MihaiCornean
@MihaiCornean 5 ай бұрын
phalar aluve + summons
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 5 ай бұрын
True! Good call
@lordvalinar774
@lordvalinar774 4 ай бұрын
*glares at the True Strike selection every video I've seen so far* - I respect you sir... but I don't like you. (lmao subbed)
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