The meme lives

😂

@@GarandThumb lol 😆

-Sun Tzu probably

So if i do zig-zag it will still targeting me?

Absolutely terrifying statement but awesome

except the futuristic optics in battlefield are actually worse and have less features than the ones we have in real life right now. pathetic

@@1337skillzor Because game devs realize how unbalanced this is - but soldiers are actually going to face this. Damn scary indeed.

I imagine the next step is integrating this with Augmented Reality goggles to put that same icon up for everyone in a unit. Also just tying the optic itself into those goggles so you can aim without actually looking through the scope.

@@1337skillzor Video game optics often seem to top out at like 8x magnification. Its so dumb.

Now if only they can get their pistol red dots worth it then they will be the best company on the market.

Always loved them for the lifetime warranty

I have some Vortex binoculars and am very impressed

I have been using Vortex optics from the begining. I have owned almost everything in their line up (26-30) optics from cheap scopes and red dots to the top of the line optics they make. What sold me was the unpresidented warranty they offered at the time. After having a failure rate of over 50 percent even with scopes in the $2400-$2700 dollar range I no longer own anything Vortex except for a spotting scope. They have a great warranty with alot of lousy products and a lot of lousy glass. For red dots holosun and Sig offer less expensive options that are better. For scopes in the low to mid tier range Arken offers way better scopes. They are more robust, better glass, better price, and better tracking. On the high end there are lots of options that are as good or better but Vortex is actually competitive at that level. For range finders Sig has better offerings for less money. Also the industry has changed thanks to Vortex warranty. Now many companies are offering similar warranties.

I can't find the invention date or patent date, all public promotion videos dates show this was actually made by someone else in another company and not Vortex. by like year early. google it yourself and please tell me if you find anywhere that show who made this sight idea first and who ripped it off or bought the idea. start with smart shooter LTD.

Just wait until directors can spot from drones 50000 ft in the air and relay all of the data they're getting directly to operators heads up display

@@re-dacted. Future combat systems raising from the dead.

Yeah as he was explaining the idea of saved targets he was still kindof stunned that this was now reality.

@@Ormusn2othe thing about anything futuristic is half the time you keep trying to break through barriers that just aren’t ready to be broken. But when tech starts to advance on its own and different concepts can be mapped together, thats when truly futuristic shit starts to happen you can’t force change- you can only accept it when it presents itself

@@JA-lr5ix That is partially true, but you can force change. In times of great need, revolutionary things were made because there was a specific push in that direction. Examples would be Project Manhattan, Covid 19 vaccines and GPT-1. Those were much ahead of their time and were extremely expensive and their success was not guaranteed. Similar with Elon musk and SpaceX. At the time of Lockheed and Boeing merger, insane rise of price to space and even losing capability to space, there was one man who tried to revolutionize the industry. It seems that same thing happened with XM-157, a tech that is off the shelf and already being in use for a long time in Abrams tanks, was consolidated into this relatively cheap optic, ready for mass production.

Tell that to my math teacher

@@bajamike3803 Pretty sure you've gotten lots of opportunities to learn

sure, sure... it's not like he was talking about his teacher who belittled somebody (it's not even clear if it was bajamike) -- which is kind of a style for school and some university scumbags of teachers -- and not about opportunities this teacher gave. lmao

What's even greater is that the Golden Rule has existed since forever. The idea of treating others with kindness and respect should not come as a revelation to you or anyone else. That said, I have failed at this, as has everyone else for the entirety of man's existence. Such is life and in the pursuit of continuous personal improvement, the best you can hope for is to learn your lessons along the way.

@@gunsandcommissions of course! Its just that this one hit me a little different. You take these rules granted sometimes especially when you’re all caught up in your own problems/daily life

🤣🤣🤣

It also compiles all your kills into a frag montage and posts it automatically on your tiktok and youtube shorts account

or even coffee machine for troops

That's optional for a one time offer of $19.99, if ordered in the next ten minutes.

So chicken nuggets while at the range!

Lol your so right this dude gives me those vibes

underrated comment, even alexander's voice sounds like patrick

Came down to make this comment lmao

@@teamusa5701 Hence infantry version. In terms of capabilities it's a fairly similar jump from the previous tech in use.

think more about some older jets aiming device - radar measure distance and show calculated aiming point on a display (for unguided missiles/autocannon)

Fcs in tanks are totally insane. Mirror stabilized thermal optics, point track,contrast tracking, auto full lead on the move calculations. Totally different class

@@griffinfaulkner3514 It's really not. It's literally just gluing a rangefinder to a christmas tree BDC and having the rangefinder automatically highlight the appropriate elevation dot.

@@teamusa5701 infantry aren't firing 3+ km. It doesn't need to be as sophisticated for 5.56, 7.62, and 6.8mm rifles. But it does apply *similar* capabilities. As a tanker, using an LRF and applying environmental variables also brought to mind the Abrams FCS

How long ago was that ?

@@rickywoods3101 This was before those damn Split Lips attacked New Mombasa.

I had peep sights and BCGs.

Sharing is caring brother.

i threw rocks at high velocitys at the enemy, those rocks also exploded? not sure what that was about

​@@Riorozenit won't hold up because that's not really how combat works. It's not like soldiers are missing all the time and constantly see their enemies. They're just supressing eachother until the other side gets wiped out by another team or artillery. Sort of.

Wait until they integrate AI into these systems, I give it 10 years at most.

Zerg rush can be always a thing, and however rare there's still need for volume fire.

@@footingball5566Why is trench warfare taking place right now in the most advanced war that’s ever occurred if artillery can simply destroy the enemy?

@@thraxberserker9960 what do you think is one of the reasons they use trenches in the first place? It's artillery fire. If your position is revealed to advanced artillery you're pretty much dead but the trenches protect you from frag. The main reason they use trenches is because Ukraine is pretty flat but most importantly because they can't gain land or air superiority easily. When the west has been fighting in wars against terrorists and insurgents, they don't really need trenches because they always have pretty much total air superiority and much more firepower overall. They also haven't typically met artillery. Trench warfare is a symptom of lots of artillery and about equal force on each side

Is this actually in service?

​@@lessdatesmoreonmyplates1457 on top tier units probably, it'll be a while before infantry sees this

@@lessdatesmoreonmyplates1457 by the time the army puts out something new they’ll roll it out to select units for testing in small numbers, normally higher tier units, and if it does good then they’ll implement it army wide but that always takes years and years, for reference i when I went through basic training a lot of the drill sgts were still adjusting to the M4 since they were initially trained with the M16, even with the new pt test it took years to roll that out army wide, with a weapon system it’ll take significantly longer since they have to test it, train all the training NCOs like drill sgts and they will have to train the new people coming in so don’t expect to see this wide spread for along time, I’ll probably be out of the army before I even see this in real life

if i had to guess probably new recruits are gonna get these way before you guys sadly @@Ryan-cv9ww

@@marcusbevz6500 Xm7 will probably be treated like a DMR.

1-200 even 300 yards is not impressive. I do that regularly with a 1-6 LPVO SIG MSR. 700yards is impressive.

"Terrifyingly wild" should be their slogan.

@@poconofrank9476 Exactly lol, I shoot 100-500 yards with a fixed 2.5 prism with zero time needed for special aiming. Only after 500 do you lower to another dot, and that takes about .001 seconds. This sight is over priced garbage.

@@carsonhunt4642 when you think about how many hours an infantryman gets behind his rifle, this sight will definitely help improve accuracy at longer ranges compared to what they have now. Just because you can spend alot of time behind your rifle and know exactly what your doing doesn't mean this SIGHT is overpriced garbage.

@@poconofrank9476 He's saying that transition from the shorter ranges to the much longer range is the scary part. And he's right.

'philosophy'

‘Russia good guys’

Mega based

@@user-ef6gv4wv1l philopticaly

Gigachad and "I had a good father figure" vibes

I disagree. You should learn the fundamentals of shooting first anyway before ever touching this optic. It is merely a tool to help touch farther targets more accurately. It's no different than putting a longer barrel on your rifle for the same purpose. You still have to aim and fire. The scope doesn't do that for you. The skill is still all up to the operator. You've got to actually think about it, its not some magic scope that makes you hit your target. It just gives you the info you would need a little bit faster. Things like wind and elevation matter a lot, and the less you have to calculate yourself the better, not to mention faster. The purpose is not to turn the average infantryman into a marksman, but to enhance the hit capabilities at longer distances.

@@beefnutt3524 bro look at his name its no wonder he thinks infantry shouldn't have it

​@@DoolyCoolynot sure you grasp the basics, as git gud may sound cool in video game antics, if we got it, they got it. Not deploying it places us at disadvantage.

what if you need to shoot deserters at close range because they start retreating? /s

@@CRIZZZLPT why do you think most Russians still use iron sights

More deep and philosophical than actually using it in the first place?

Came here to say the same. You can even tell how shook Mike was too explaining it.

@@TheJayddub sure, Mike as we know is a talented shooter, but this sight dramatically increases the potential of any shooter using it. And that capability is cool and scary at the same time when you look at the possibilities it unlocks that aren't shown here.

Or it's small enough to fit in the frame of a robot and energy efficient enough to not draw a lot of amperage over time allowing that drone more time in action .

You got the Burris eliminator 4, same concept with out all the fancy bells and whistles.

Yoogle Steiner

@@chriscarnes87 I disagree, I think the difference between this practical and usable device and everything that came before it is just like the difference between a modern jet fighter and the first ones. They're worlds apart as far as capabilities go, you can't reasonably compare them at all.

the incredible part is that it took this long...

Which optic is this in-game? How did they name it in COD?

@@anudewilliams4788 Raptor-FVM40

@@barretthall875 thank you

​@@barretthall875 The Raptor is basically a Burris Eliminator, not one of these.

I have the Eliminator IV and it's deadly accurate on my 6.5 Creedmoor. It's not cheap but I wonder how much this Vortex is going for?

Sig has their BDX system also. Yes it's separate. But it atleast let's the range finder communicate to the scope computer and uses the ballistics you chose and imput to display a holdover red dot. Split sec and the ballistic is figured out. Uses linked info from weather and alt also.

I have an eliminator 3. Works very well. Always thought why they didn't offer to military. Also has a great retical that can be used if battery drops dead.

Funny because for a fraction of the price ATN has one that’s similar that works well enough

@@PerXCollatatm laser isnt as accurate and is visible under nods

Nah, training is always numero uno.

@@RealKlausSchwab this optic based on what I have seen could turn children into lethal marksmen in almost no time It will only get better. With nano technology like hyper stealth invisibility and optics like this sniper school could literally just become, how to use this scope and put on your uniform.

@@RealKlausSchwab i agree, was just joking around haha

@@alb9520 combine it with hyper stealths invisibility technology they are working on you literally have predator

Meh nobody will ever see this

Burris has had this for almost a decade.

The question everyone is forgetting is how are us civilians supposed to compete ?

@@alb9520 well considering 95% of engages will be under 500 yards and landing shots on targets from 500 yards and below is extremely easy even for a 10 year old. I don’t really see how the auto aim would really help unless we’re talking about thousand yard shots and then we are just getting into ridiculous levels that are unrealistic.

You are obviously joking BUT it wouldnt be so bad if an idea to give the shooter some kind of indication when the bullet was expected to impact to make it that little but easier to look for signs of hit/miss.

The "less ammo" part is actually gonna be compensated by the fact that you'll waste less ammo per target, but as for "more batteries" - yeah, this new optic requires some more power and also is kinda fragile. Because of that it might not become standard issue for most infantry, however marksmen might enjoy this system for such an aim assist allowing them to one-tap their targets.

​@@Fireball7428it depends on how expensive the optic is. If its affordable enough the fragility won't matter as much. The live span of equipment in peer on peer wars is incredibly short.

@@Fireball7428Marksmen wouldn’t need this optic. They can already do everything it does like it’s second nature. The whole point of it is to allow comparatively less skilled shooters to punch above their weight class. I’d be willing to bet the scope is a lot less fragile than you think, considering it’s all solid state, sealed off, and has gone through the whole battery of mil spec QC tests. And when you have an 800 billion dollar budget things like scopes are absolutely inconsequential in terms of cost.

Tanker here too. Honestly I think this is a 10x bigger advancemdnt than the rest of the NGSW. I'd love to have a smaller/lighter version, maybe 1-4 or 1-6x on M4's as well especially if it could replace the PEQ.

I don't know whether to be proud and happy, or scared shitless.

I disagree. The problem is our military is controlled by psychopaths that have systematically liberalized it. They will be used on citizens. It’s only a matter of time. That’s exactly why “the people” are supposed to be as well armed. Gee, I wonder why those very same psychopaths who control the military want to disarm us.

Former M1/M1A1 tanker. Having an muzzle reference sensor, crosswind sensor on a tank was a big deal back in the 90s not to mention an LRF. Now on a rifle scope along with atmospheric conditions? Absolutely game changing for a crunchy.

Exact same toughts. It's interesting how this is in line with history, usually things first appear on tank and then get miniaturized enough to be given to infantry, starting from radio all the way to range finders and termals. The funny question is, what's next?

How's this really any different than the optic Remington did over a decade ago for the Remington 2020? Accomplishes nearly the same thing.

@@Ratkill9000 Vortex optics have survived grunt use before this point in time? I can't say the same for Remington optics.

@@SlavicCelery Have they though?

@@Theman3806 I've seen a heck of a lot of photos and videos with vortex stuff being used, in the past. I've heard vets vouch for them. I can't say that about any Remington optics. Also with the IR laser stuff, it's going to replace half of a PEQ unit. Pretty sure the Remmy option isn't also a PEQ unit as well.

@@Ratkill9000 or the Burris or Bushnell Eliminator (i might have the name wrong) that a co-worker of mine has been using for hunting for a few years now. Does the same thing and works well for him.

Ya

Agreed. Imagine when China has this, or we leave them to nahtzis in Ukraine....

@@RealKlausSchwab Vatnik.

@@Vhalikuporamee447 what's that mean?

@@RealKlausSchwab It's used by people who unabashedly swallow Western propaganda against those they perceive as believing Russian propaganda.

@@RealKlausSchwab Respectfully, all of Vortex's stuff is made in China, just like Olight and others. I realize the rep said the glass is US manufacturing, but where are the parts sourced?

war is increasingly fought by engineers

@@kevinyoung9243 always has been.

@@kabloosh699 always will be 🫡

You kids in here are so cringe 😂

That's just a politically correct term for LSD mode.

LOL!!! Great comment in your observations of the cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$ of operation.

😂😂

@@OMG_No_Way GLASS IS DAMN NEAR EVERYTHING, VERY COMMON IN THE BENCH REST WORLD.

@@NoWr2Run jesus, tyclo. You're not special bro

@@sonofnone116 CAPS LOCK STICKS ONCE IN AWHILE, BRO.

Can I have your old one ? 😂

@@qbanz00 I did return the old one, but they sent the new one before receiving my old one

@@jamesengland7260 gotcha . I think most companies do that though .. considering the price point . I cracked the lens on a stream light and it was totally my fault , they asked for the SN for my part & even though it was 3 years old they sent me a new one…given , it was after receiving the broken one.

Agreed.

@@kiwi_comanche a patrol can become a spearhead now. You get the direction and range from your shot spotter (electronic auditory recognition equipment) you swivel your browning over. Then you acquire the range you laze and then you have your retical preset on a save. Then you start saving on other likely avenues of approach. Holy fuck thats alot to unpack.

@@zachv1942 Better than that, it can be datalinked over ad-hoc networking so your shot spotter lases it and you just get a reticle.

@@mattbuffo1177 RIP bad guys

Not only that, imagine those UBGL Guys now finally have a do it all optic that not only measures Bullet Ballistics but Grenade Ballistics

What do you estimate will be the price on this?

@@santanagamingcinema Probably as expensive as your liver

@@santanagamingcinema if I were to guess I would say at least 2.5k

This optic in combination with the 6.8 will be devastating on the battlefield. Especially when they start integrating thermal imaging.

Finally, a solid step in combat dominance for our forces. It's been a while.

That's what I was thinking but when looking into I read it's about 11G's

Awesome company. And great to see how you witnessed them grow. Only caveat I have is that they ARE one of the big boys now. Top of the tipity top

@@alecubudulecu nothing wrong with that, they still offer an optics line for every budget at least. And have been plenty innovative along the way.

@@chrisbarcus3280 they sure do. Love their stuff. Wife competes in PRS and swears by them.

Winning a military contract doesn't necessarily mean this is a good optic though

vortex and primary arms really flipped the market on their heads.

Eh. It's literally not anything you couldn't already do with a rangefinder and a properly zeroed rifle already. All it did was remove the step of you needing to count how many dots down to hold by highlighting it for you.

@@colby1398 less things to fumble and mess up so it's a W.

@@colby1398 not anything you couldn’t do with iron sights and stepping off the distance to the target. Just saves you a few steps and adjusting your sights

@@colby1398 except that takes far too much time in combat

@@ryanwolfe9794 just stop right there

that's the idea =)

​@@LIONTAMER3D Until it's your own government exterminating you.

It reminds me of those advanced optics from Call of Duty but now they're becoming reality.

Put it on a .338 Norma semi auto with a little more magnification and nobody will be safe within 2Km.

…1600 yards

I mean it comes with a normal sight

@@DeosPraetorian people where assuming it was a screen inside the scope before any information was released and claiming it would be trash.

@@SnowFootprints96 "people were assuming" defines like 95% of internet comments

Which is weird because one of the first things Vortex assured people was that it was merely an overlay onto an etched reticle, so worst case it just turned into a slightly heavier normal scope.

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz I remember the military moving to red dots and people freaking out about that. Vortex is a competent company so didn't think it would be something gimmicky or useless.

Yeah Vortex is super. 👌 👍

If there is one thing humans are good at… it’s removing eachother from the Gene pool.

It also has the technology to spot targets, and other soldiers can see the spotted target through the optic.

Now someone needs to @ this to DICE to get them to add 3d spotting back. Since you know, the real world has it now.

"DICE, please!"

It’s already extremely easy and guaranteed at anything under 500 yards so this thing is only really useful for unrealistic ranges which are like 800 and above. I think the issue is that most people are double digit IQ and they don’t know how to acquire a target even out to 50 yards for whatever reason but I could literally teach a competent 10 year old to lend 100% shots at 500 yards so I don’t really understand the point of the scope and I don’t see how it’s going to radically change anything unless people are just really that bad. The scope is basically like training wheels for a bicycle and the people in the comments are saying that training wheels are going to make a bicycle scary or something when in reality you don’t even need training wheels…

Works great, till the batteries shit the bed. Garand iron sight shots, 500 or more yards ! No batteries, no optics ! Or even old 03 Springfields, which were WWII sniper rifles with basic optics.

​@@Yarrb53 By chance do you EDC a Kimber 1911?

​@@Weimerica8841 that's such a specific insult I love that🤣🤣🤣

@@Yarrb53 you can actually buy spare batteries 😮 it’s amazing isn’t it?

@@Yarrb53 trash as sniper rifles and no way to Id your target at 500

Suddenly pfc Joe Snuffy is more like pfc Predator

they got these ir goggles that gonna be able to id friendlies and show their heat sig

Just put a clip on in front of it.

They talked about it in the video, they have a thermal attachment they’re working on that overlays on the internal display.

@@manny1659 this thing can allready do that in visible light, since its AR you can literally mark a target, that's visible on other peoples reticules kind of like your playing battlefield but in real life. Its wild how much of a game changer this will be.

Atn did

they've existed for a long time. the systems haven't been robust enough to give to grunts. not surprised vortex is the company to change that

@@ImperiumLibertas won't work well in extreme cold or heat but yeah

Burris has one that's about $1k or so

Because you don't actually need a range finder since your reticle has one built in.

wow it really is Battlefield IRL then.

Scary part is linking the XM157 with both ATAK and IVAS.

Imagine getting spotted at Heinan Resort and getting domed by some Fudd half a mile away.

😳

Ghost Recon is coming to us, holy shit.

Ja lol

Does this take in wind and humidity for this shot also

@@inmate0054 it gives wind information, not sure if it explicitly said it calc'd it. But if it can read it, its probably a feature or soon to be.

And Sniper Elite 😎

A decade ago this technology already existed. Range finders n' shit are nothing new.

@@SailTheShip This tech did exist but it was in its infancy. The real advancement here is the miniaturization and the user friendliness of the system. It requires no real thought, just push button, hit target. That didn't exist 10 years ago.

@@ZboeC5 ^this

@@ZboeC5 Fair enough.

I can imagine having this in Desert Storm back in my day. Absolutely insane

Doesn't matter if you can't carry as much ammo if you have irl aimbot.

The spear will probably flop, the question is how far the military will try and take it before they have to come to grips with reality. edit:oh boy the sig fan boys are after me😂 also just to be clear I love the optic but the spear is most likely not going to replace something as fundamentally solid as the AR platform.

@@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 Why do you think it'll flop?

@@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 before watching him use this thing I totally agreed with you. Assuming this sight works as well as advertised ( I admit that’s a big if ) then the spear makes a lot more sense than It did to me before. Doesn’t do any good to have this shiny optic on an government issue m-4 that can only punch out to 4-5 hundred yards.

@@Cambo6377 exactly what I was thinking.

Price per unit to the Army is disclosed at about $10k. An optic that Vortex sells, that appears to possibly be what this was based on, the Razor HD Gen 3 1-10x24 FFP has an MSRP of $3,600. Optic only, without the fire control system. I would expect that IF Vortex does end up selling these to the public, they will run about $7200-7500. And that's assuming they bump their production of these to the point that there is any excess capacity for civilian sales.

Absolutely. Studying this system for a screenplay I'm writing that takes place in 2050. A3 or A4 mark at that time.

I lose it at the post office to whoever the highest bidder is...

@Dick Izzinya I've been an armorer and I am amazed at how rough Joe's handle there ccos. Acogs have been bullet proof but I'd say about 20 percent of 180 ccos I had were unserviceable.

Its been approaching. Its pretty much a range finder shrunk down. Id imagine precision competitions will put in a rule to ban them from use. Id also guess 3 gun as well will ban it.

@@1014p Range finder, calibrated for the gun and round, that also is a point and shoot more than anything. This works for marines too, because they don't have to count how many lines down from the centre one they are on their fingers.

No the fuck it's not. In combat it's going to be a huge problem.

@@W1ckedRcL How so? This won't be put on the guns of entry guys. This won't be issued to EVERYONE - only 250k units for the first four years. This will be for the standard Army Sniper teams and maybe some SDM's.

@@ZildjianMan30 this is going to be the primary optic for the NGSW. It's going to be mounted on infantry guns as soon as they can get them out of the factory.

It's extremely similar

Drone used.a.vpn to get a new ip

🤣

Also the name is Badass, Vortex

@Matt Prost hey man, we all got that one drunken one night stand back in college we're not proud of either. Everyone makes mistakes 🙁

@@ironmann16 and hell…SOME of us make that mistake repeatedly! Uhhhh, no. Not me. My friend! Yeah.. him.

They have a really diverse catalogue too, so their range of optics is very accessible price wise. Everything from $150 red dots all the way up to what we're seeing here in the video.

@@Womb2DaTomb very true but their red dots don’t even come close to aimpoints trijicons or Leupolds durability wise

@@romeowhiskeylima556 That's not my point at all, my point is you can get a decent red dot that holds zero for a fraction of those brands, of course a Eotech or Aimpoint would be ideal

I have Vortex scopes on my rifles, my favortie is the Vortex 5x25. It matched with my 6.5 Creedmor makes a beautiful combo, in addition with the scope shroud.

I would like to add that Vortex backs lifetime warranties on all their products bought new or refurbished. They trust their product and make solid options for any build.

People say that because they themselves cannot afford it likely

@@TALIZ0RAH this isn't a civilian optic. This is what the US Army plans to put on the XM5. I dunno why you're tryna shame people for being poor when it's a optic that's not on sale to begin with.

ya.. this is VERY scary . everyone becomes cold bore sniper.... plus night vision and! thermal.... will probably also be able to outline friendlies / marks....... sorta like the A-10s helmet display works (look at DCS game play to see what i mean.... quite deadly) . CRAZY!

@@kainhall "will probably also be able to outline friendlies / marks....." If you watch the vortex deep dive on this they basically said it will be able to show you friendlies

@@UMADBRO64 then you still have a good optic. And if there is one thing the US army is not worried about it's logistics for basic batteries.

@@UMADBRO64 Well seeing as we have grunts these days lugging around night vision and night fighting lasers, it's actually much less complicated to the user

@@UMADBRO64 You have a laughably incorrect perspective on the competence and intelligence of the modern "grunt"

In a firefight in Syria, optic stops working. Calls up Vortex They ship a new optic from the Overseas warehouse Drone flies up and drops it onto my location Attach it to my rifle and put the old one on the drone. Gets back to the firefight

Countless of thermal optics have rangefinders in em

The question is, how are us civilians supposed to compete against this

@@squidy4082 Sheer numbers.

$10,800 per unit/ 250,000 in total. Wow how affordable

The saving is fucking awesome imagine youre on overwatch in one particular area and you maybe expect someone in a window of a building and you range for that and you also expect someone at a rige 200m further and can range to that as well as to some alley exit in a difrent part of your view and if whatever comes up in any of those places you just point your muzzle there and it gives you an impact point right away, the potential reaction time on an emerging danger far away is scary impressive.

That’s a point, but for GI this is a game changer

@Random Pickle for GI, they can still use the scope as usually as a regular LPVO

Honestly this. Datalink even on squad level means 40-50 targets which is massive for recon purposes alone, not even getting in to data linking to off grid fire support or loitering munitions

The only reason for the save is for FOB defense. For instance North tree line, East tree line, NE irrigation ditch etc.

Honestly yeah, like if you need Cas and you lase an enemy position then it gets fucking data linked to an a10 or f35/f16 with link16 Holy shit what a game changer

@@orlock20 yeah can't always be going on offense sometimes you will be put in those situations

@@orlock20 or a multiple target in fast order assault. I.e.- sentries/guards

Vortex, like Sig, is a people's company. They love their civilian market. Wouldnt be surprised if we see a civilian version of this optic not long after fielding.

@@ImperiumLibertas sig loves their civillian market so much that they only gave the military a drop safety in their pistols

@@Ltblitzful Well, they love *selling* to the civilian market, which is a lot more than HK can claim...

You don’t need to ever be on the range in your life you could teach a six-year-old how to land shots at 500 yards… literally the first time I ever touched a stick I landed iron sight shots out to 500 yards with 100% accuracy. I had no idea what I was doing and it was pretty much guaranteed every time real life is a lot easier than video games because it’s a lot easier to see.

@@MobileAura I know its the internet and lying to look cool is common but absolutely 0 chance you were getting 100% accuracy at 500 yards first time you shot a gun. I doubt you've ever even shot a gun before and based on your pubg mobile vids you're probably not even old enough to legally own a gun