Gaddafi as it turns out, had nothing to do with the bombing of the la belle club

Can you cover/make video operation oluja (storm) in balkan wars. I heard that was one of the biggest operations that happened in modern history. Of cours before Russian Ukrain war.

Great video! However, the ammo techs will have you know that bombs equipped with Mk-15 Snakeyes are not parachute bombs, but rather 'retarded' bombs. They have four mechanical retardation scoops that deploy upon release for moderate drag, not an actual parachute which would slow them significantly more. Take care; I always look forward to your videos 😊

No I don't think so

Operation just cause next ?

haha.

I wonder who planted that?

Surprise-Surprise! I remember reading somewhere that in some consulates they tell you to assume the room is bugged and govern yourself accordingly.

Well the friends of my enemy are my enemy.

@@todd4866 indeed nothing to wait from socialists

Just casually blaming the French for making their flight 14 hours long.

The situation is so tragic, but that's a damned funny line.

@@nicholaswalsh4462 would be typical USA entitlement, why'd you run in front of the gun carried by the illegally occupying country smh my head

GEB ME SLEEP!

@@nicholaswalsh4462 Blaming the French is always a good move. Didn't do your homework? Blame the French. Was late to work? Blame the French.

I wanna say that a clear and direct message of "don't fuck with the west" was well more than necessary. Especially given the fact that they killed our servicemen.

Yes it was necessary. If you had been stationed at wheelus in mid September 1969 , you would understand.

"All warfare is based" -Sun Tzu

@@snowcat9308 It told the world "we can fly over and bomb you to smithereens any time we like and there's nothing you can do about it. Play nice or else".

All the things that go wrong in even the most "well planned" missions in peace time in missions handled by the technically most advanced nations is what makes this scary for real. President speech after the fact: today we have struck a decisive blow against one of our foes, yada yada Real time pilots: boo my arm hurts from flying too long. Oops my bombs missed a stationary enemy target (building) from very close range. Holy f*cking oops our bombs now hit the embassy of a friendly nation and killed innocents. Things seldom go perfectly according to plan I know all too well, it's just weird hearing this stuff explained in detail with the misses, losses, fuckups, and random comments from pilots. I just hope they mainly use and used mostly slightly older hired and trained professionals instead of fresh 19-20 year old recruits because if not that would explain alot.

Clarification, not saying any plane is better. Saying the focus on lesser known planes is cool.

@@JackAsh2081 everyone was fascinated by the Tomcat. The Intruders, the Corsair II, and the then brand new Hornets were just as important.

I think this mission pretty well showed each aircraft's role. F-111s flew long range to attack preplanned targets A-6s attack preplanned targets from carriers A-7s and F/A-18s engage targets of opportunity and SEAD EA-6s jam air defence radars F-14s provide air patrol in case of interception Not to mention the tankers too

Pieces of history, narrator does a very good job.

@@THEdanrugaming nowadays you just call the Super Hornet to do everything lol

@@Whiteghost785 Yeah but there was no terror at the end of the return flight 7 hours.

Ask a fighter pilot how they do their "business" during long flights. It really erases the "cool factor" of being a fighter pilot when you hear it.

@@morgan97475 I watched a video by Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles in which he said the pilots of B-2 bombers are on medication to keep them awake on long missions, and are wearing adult diapers, I'm assuming it's a similar situation for fighter pilots...

@@R.Lennartz I heard about the adult diapers but this F-15 pilot (forgot his callsign) said he used a large garbage bag that he had to "crawl" into. Frak that.

@@morgan97475 biggest advantage of su34 is onboard toilet

Indeed

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I'm really looking forward to it!

the entire video?

I am surprised they manage to land their aircraft with little to no sleep after 15 hours

The pigs were utterly reliable with auto pilot and assited landings. During nam, there were several birds that returned with dead pilots.

Impressive on one hand, but objectively their accuracy was lacking.

@@CorePathway You think you could do better ?

@@CFITOMAHAWK I think the personnel performed magnificently. But the ask was too big, the results not worth the collateral.

Indonesia is a beautiful place to be exiled. I’ll take that deal for millions of dollars.

I supposed he still live there now

@@onebridge7231 Really?

What kind of deal was this? lol Beeing with the military forces of Libya this can only mean an arms deal.

@@Gentleman...Driver He said his uncle was in Libya doing business with the government. He did not say his uncle was serving in the Libyan armed forces. I would conjecture that he was negotiating the sale of something to do with the oil fields or military hardware. Probably something that wasn't allowed under the sanctions regime that followed, resulting in his uncle's inability to return to the USA. If he made millions and moved to Indonesia, well, people have probably done worse for big money. However, as I said, this is all conjecture. I'd love to hear more actual details if the OP is willing to share.

Chosin Reservoir would be great as well.

That would be neat, my great-uncle was an LC crewmember during Incheon, got his LC shot out from under him, and had to spend a tidal cycle on the beach with the marines. He didn't like to talk about it much.

Are you a Patron?

One of my favorites

I'll second this request. My late uncle Fred Henry McCorkle was in the afternoon wave that landed at Inchon as a young private. He was a machine gunner. The Inchon landing was largely unopposed. Fred was wounded at the Chosin reservoir, took a deflected bullet into the space between his eyeball and upper orbital bone. It cracked his skull but damaged neither his eye nor his brain and left a scar you couldn't see until he closed his eyes. He was evacuated and had a metal plate in his head for the rest of his life. He and I were close, I was fortunate to hear about some of his experiences. He experienced at least one human wave attack. The Marines had lots of fire power in a fire fight and were well trained in marksmanship. The human wave attacks played right into their hands and rarely succeeded after the Marines recovered from the initial surprise of China's entry into the war. Fred said they called the Chinese the ant brigade because of how numerous they seemed. At one point his unit was dug in and observing enemy movement in the distance. Uncle Fred: "Lieutenant, I think I can see the enemy, permission to fire?" Lt: "I'll check." The LT passed along the request. "Negative, don't fire." Fred saw more movement. "Lieutenant, I'm sure I see some movement ahead. Are they ours? Permission to fire?" Lt: "I'll check." The Lt again passed along the request. "There are no friendly units to our front. However, do not fire at this time." Fred kept watching and seeing more movement. "Lieutenant, Lieutenant, I'm still seeing movement. Permission to fire?" Lt: "Mack, if you call me Lieutenant one more time, I'm gonna start calling you Captain." I often wish I'd asked his permission to record his stories. I don't recall the lieutenant's name although I know he told me it. He recalled that LT fondly, both men survived and met at numerous 1st Marine Div reunions over the years.

They most assuredly were not glorious machines. Absolute death traps with a plethora of issues.

@@failtolawl that may be true, but OP's dad may have described them to him as such.

@@failtolawl you're thinking of the a10

I remember that I was stationed in Germany at the time

@@failtolawlonce you get into the 80s they've got most of the bugs worked out The main issue was that ridiculous tf30

Where I went to school in Australia was in Warwick, Queensland. The RAAF (the only other operator of the F-111) had them based at RAAF Amberly, on the other side of the mountains. We'd frequently hear them flying over the town, if it was outside of class I'd get to see them, always a treat! They also performed at the Riverfire displays in Brisbane, and did the 'dump and burn' as a finale. I saw one when I was at university, the aircraft flying along one of the reaches of the Brisbane River. Not only spectacular to see, the noise was absolutely incredible!

I was an industrial engineer at McClellan AFB assigned to F-111 depot maintenance during that period. A fantastic aircraft!

Same here. We used to park off Elkhorn Blvd. to watch all types of aircraft coming overhead low and slow to land as the tarmac started just inside the fence. Awesome.

merica son🇺🇲🇺🇲✊🏿

U rlly believe a countries leader bombed a night club?

@@Revy8 The New York Times reported the Germans' conviction of four people in the bombing on November 14, 2001. Two Libyan Embassy staff members were among the four. If you don't believe me, believe the New York Times.

@@Revy8 And if you don't believe Steve Erlanger, read the Washington Post's article by Peter Finn on the same topic. I spoke with him shortly after the sentences were announced.

Imagine believing the WasPOS

Rescue and recovery if a plane went down over land? I doubt it would have been to capture (or confirm death of) Gadafi - but that would have been exciting to say the least.

I’d wager you guys were there to rescue any pilots that were downed.

@@colemanmoore9871 The USAF has its own special units for rescuing downed pilots. If I remember correctly, Reagan was going to continue to hit Libya, but the US Congress stopped him.

USAF PJ's would have done any rescue. Rangers take air fields. By the way I was an MP working D TOC security. Things that make you go hmmm...

@@timhahne3894 Regardless of what your involvement was to be that day, thank you for your service and willingness that day.

thw 10s are so cool. even loved seeing the occasional fedex one.

My dad was part of El Dorado Canyon. We were stationed at Fairford and he was a KC-135 navigator. I think he said he was on a KC-10 for this mission though if I remember correctly. I thought it was interesting, because I had never heard of him flying on a KC-10 before.

I was a flying crew chief on 10s, and fairford was such a cool spot we traveled too.

I was stationed there at that time, really enjoyed my time in England.

@@Montey16 you liked the local area there?

USAF should have passed on this and let you guys handle it alone. Also, thanks for that! 👍 🇺🇸

I was there too! V-1 division, I had the honor of taking a white board to every plane with flight data because of the radio silence.

i was there too..newly Reconstituted VA-55 from the USS Coral Sea flying A6E Intruders...our primary target was the Benina airbase..secondary target the benghazi barracks...

No you weren’t

@@HiImSeanIPlayBass Piss off , I spent 8 years on the Coral Sea starting in Bremerton and ending in Norfolk.

Interesting, I had never heard of any other country being allowed to fly or even consider purchasing the F-117. Could you recommend any sources where I could read a bit more about this? On a somewhat related note, I fondly remember seeing an F-117 on display around 1990 or 1991 when I was young. It was at an air show the local AFB put on around labor day weekend every year. Unlike many other aircraft that you were allowed to walk up and sit in, the F-117 was roped off and watched over by men with the black suits and sunglasses.

@@jhensjh in all honesty mate Wikipedia does a pretty good job of it, look in the variants slide, which is another interesting read

@@andrewstanley7300 Wikipedia reads as though Lockheed wanted the sales and Ronnie was fully supportive, but the Brits passed on the offer. That is eminently believable

Reagan was critical for Thatcher during the Falklands dust-up. Naturally, what was done -- was done on the down low -- and is still not widely known.

I thought the interesting fact would’ve been that in the 90s it was found out that Libya had nothing to do with the bombings across Europe

thank you for your service. what was it like trying to get into the airforce?

@@yyurrr3045, I joined the Air Force on the Delayed Enlistment Program before I graduated from High School. It was several trips to the local (Portland, Oregon) MEPS station and, admittedly, a couple of mistakes on my part that probably cost me the job I really wanted (linguist). I went in on an "Open General" contract on 13 September 1984 and they made me a cop. I will never forgive myself for failing to recognize how good I really had it at the time. I got out in 1988 and joined the Army Reserve in 2000, where I spent 15 years as an instructor. I can't tell you what a privilege it was or how much I miss it. If you are considering any branch, you really can't go far wrong. We all tease each other, but it's more of a sibling rivalry than any real animosity between branches.

Very welcome

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@@TheOperationsRoom I'm not a native English speaker so I just googled Aardvark and it doesn't look like your animation at all. In fact it doesn't even seem to have wings. Nice video nevertheless ;-)

I was stationed there too, it was really busy during that time working long hours. I also remember when the base hosted the International Air Tattoo with all the different planes from various countries it was really neat to see those planes.

I'll bet.

My father retired as drunk carpenter. just kidding, no way he could afford to do that lol

Because they didn't allow them to commit war crimes from their territory? If so this is a very strange "logic". I mean they could've worked for McDonald's or whatever instead. You can't join the army/navy/airforce and wonder or complain getting badly injured or killed...ridiculous, even more if it's true what you said😂

@@fluseint.1303 Actually, the crime was the Libyan-sponsored bombing of a disco full of civilians which precipitated the raid.

@@19valleydan Both are crimes. One worse then the other. If you can't see it you're blind.

@@fluseint.1303 Terrorists will keep killing people if our response is to simply wag our finger at them.

After Pearl harbor even American planes had trouble going there

More like Kamikaze" speed boats, or torpedo.

I cannot tell if you're serious or not

Thank you very much!

Yes, upper haystack was part of it.

I noticed that as well. The peace protestors outside the gate at Heyford always made me laugh.

Well it's great to see you were trusted with literally nothing to defend yourself except harsh words. Stupid fucking brass.

Wow, thank you!

I kinda wonder about the autopilot thing. Was the autopilot engaged when they were not refueling? I think maybe that was the problem - the tight formation they flew meant they had to fly manually the whole way.

I believe this fact was mentioned to explain to the viewer why the flight was so physically exhausting for the crews, rather than attempting to point out an inherent flaw of the F111.

It was meant to demonstrate that the use of manual flight control operation through out the the entirety of the sortie made the arms of the pilots tired and harder to hold steady while refueling

Glad you liked it!

As an American, I wholeheartedly support retaliating against those who think its a good idea to attack us unprovoked. I get it, America has a lot of problems and some just don't like the fact that we're essentially trying to police the rest of the world. But at the same time, don't just attack us and expect us to just take that lying down. Its not going to end well.

The American public doesn't care about Europe because they aren't the ones that are literally near the countries that support terrorism. It's all easy while you are all the way over the Atlantic.

Ill give it to the us, I dont agree with everything they do. But when they do it, they do it right.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNGbdZen1ZnRkX0.html. Check out this video from the mission commander.

I remember in my time in the USAF they had a saying that an F-111 was a multi role plane, “it would bomb you, strafe you, and fall on top of you”

Cheers mate. Too bad we couldn’t do dump and burns like you.

@@ogee634 lol

@@johnforrester9120 not sure if you understood that reference, but it was truly awe inspiring at night. Pilot uses the fuel dump (which is between the engines at the nozzles) then hits afterburner. Illegal for US pilots, but used regularly in Australian airshows.

@@ogee634 yep see it a few times at oz air shows I knew what u meant

Navy was tasked with recovery. Damaged aircraft were told to get over the sea. At the time, crews reported that Karma 52 radioed they had taken a missile and were heading out to sea. There was a flash, then no more communication. The F-111F is a flying fuel tank. Whether ejection triggered an explosion or it just burned through is unknown. The weapons system officer’s body was never confirmed recovered. (names intentional left out) Rumors stated that 2 passes were actually flown, the first being target confirmation, and that Karma 52 was tail end charlie. By the time of the second pass the AAA was in full swing. Crews swore their craft were riddled with bullet holes, but post flight inspections only revealed missing paint from high speed and high G accelerometer readings.

Yes, that did happen. Blackbirds from the UK took hi-alt photos.

@@thefrecklepuny I thought so! It seems a pretty important aspect to miss out of such a video. I just loved the fact the Black birds took off some 5 or so hours after the F111's and beat them back to the UK. Phenominal Aircraft!

Doing some research, it sounds like the SR71 recon overfly was performed 2 days later on the 16th. This appears to be the flight that Major Brian Shul recounts as the "Outrunning Lybian SAMs" story, with his RSO Walter Watson.

@@blackraen - Hah! Well perhaps the story of the Blackbirds beating the F111s back was a little bit too good to be true. I really wished it were true! It would be interesting to see if they got clearance to fly over France and Italy. Going mach 3 would create quite the sonic boom!

Could "have"...

Does your family's long line of military tradition happen to include services on Korean soil?

@@paulhan1615 Just so happens we missed that one. My dad served in between the Korea and Vietnam years though on a minesweeper . Just missed both wars by a few years .

bro

​@@scottjohnson2396 Well, either way, as a South Korean I am grateful for you and your family's participation in our ally's army.

Glad you like them!

Glad you liked it!

That would of been RAF Mildenhall not Lakenheath.

I once heard someone describe the refueling process akin to "trying to eat a hotdog off a halberd with no hands". This seems to fit the description!

Check this video from the mission commander kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNGbdZen1ZnRkX0.html

@@timf2279 really...

@@stevenlarratt3638 yes very good first hand account from the Air Force 493rd TFS commander Arnie "Rooster" Franklin which he received the DFC for this mission.

They killed civilians and they didn't kill Gaddafi

history of missing and causing mass casualty events yeah

It was France who told Gaddafi not Italy 🤦‍♂️

@@alqaeda7040 no ;) 14:55

Based Italy

@@pigeon.7256 perché devi alimentare stereotipi negativi contro il tuo paese? Ma che cazzo di cittadino saresti, mettiti la bandiera del ghana nel profilo e non sputare sulla nostra parassita. La decisione di avvertire gheddafi era ben motivata e non abbiamo cambiato alleati. Rispetto gli stati uniti avevamo visioni completamente diverse sulla libia e loro hanno fatto quello che volevano come al solito

@@ColVedo Bro è una battuta non c'è bisogno di prendersela

Wow, that's a really quiet background bark. I had to listen to it 3 more times before I finally caught it. Good ears!

Airplane Spotting Skills Exhibited: ‘E’ for effort. 👍 Cloud Spotting Skills Exhibited: ‘A’ for AWESOME TOTALLY I SEE IT NOW. 🎉 Or, is the “” coincidental, where I think not…

Missed it the first time

Will do!

@@TheOperationsRoom pls teach me how to animate like you.

Many thanks!

Thanks again!

Sponsored and funded by everyone’s favorite North African dictator… Miramar Gaddafi! and these “America bad” idiots wonder why we were always blowing up his shit.

Glad you like them!

Why would Reagan say no to such an operation? Doesn't sound like him at all.

@@Docjonel It doesn’t sound like Reagan because politicians don’t advertise their mistakes. They work very hard to ensure that the press only hears about their victories. As with the city of Las Vegas, what happens in the halls of power…Stays in the halls of power. This goes for virtually all politicians, repubs or dems. I’ll give you another example of a Reagan screwup, though every president in my lifetime of 6 1/2 decades, has had multiple similar occurrences. Before, during and after the Marines were sent to Beirut as “peacekeepers”, (The “why” anyone would send one of the world’s premier assault troops into an ancient civil war, to act as policemen, is still a mystery to me) there was a power struggle going on amongst Reagan’s cabinet members. Reagan’s Secretary of State, George Schultz, had been approached, through diplomatic channels, by Syrian officials. They intimated to him that they might be open to having a summit at Camp David to negotiate a peace treaty with Israel. A similar occurrence during Reagan’s predecessor’s term in office had resulted in Carter becoming the recipient of a Nobel Peace Prize for negotiating a peace treaty between Israel and Egypt dubbed “The Camp David Accords”. Schultz desperately wanted to make the same happen for his boss (especially since much of the world thought Reagan was a warmonger and would get us into WWIII with his antagonizing of the Soviet Union. Caspar Weinberger, Reagan’s Secretary of Defense , didn’t want to send any American troops into the Middle East for any reason. Against his advice, Reagan sent the Marines to, at first, escort the PLO out of Lebanon. After that was accomplished, the Lebanese president was assassinated (by car bomb). The Lebanese government asked Reagan to send his Marines back to Beirut along with a smaller contingent of French and Italian troops to restore order. Again, the secretary of defense advised against this move. Secretary of State Schultz thought it was a good idea since it would further his wet dream of getting Reagan a Nobel Peace Prize. Reagan went with Schultz’s advice. During the Marines’ mission in Beirut, the Marine Commanders repeatedly asked for permission to fortify their compound’s defenses. Weinberger advised the president to allow this. Schultz, because it might give the appearance of a more permanent American presence and piss off the Syrians, advised against it. Again, Reagan went with Schultz’s advice. On October 23, 1983, a Mercedes flatbed truck, laden with tons of plastic explosives (ringed with 100 pound pressurized oxygen tanks) easily drove through some concertina wire and a sandbag barrier thru the entranceway into the heart of the very large building that was the Marines’ headquarters where it detonated. The bombing resulted in the building being lifted off of its foundation only to crash down collapsing the entire structure. KIA: 240+ US marines, sailors and soldiers. Unlike Reagan, the French had installed concrete barriers on the street in front of their headquarters. That truck could not drive into their building so, that truck detonated outside on the street. The explosion collapsed the front wall of their headquarters. KIA: 58 French legionnaires. I’d bet you never heard about any of this because…..politicians do not advertise their screwups. The following year, when the French collected enough intelligence to pinpoint the presence of some of the actors involved with the bombings and asked for American military assistance in a mission to kill them, Reagan again followed Schultz’s advice not to help. Schultz was still looking to get a Nobel Peace Prize for Reagan. With most of the Marines battalion commanders having died in the bombing, the facts, about the bombings, did not come out for quite a few years. Only after the surviving junior officers, in First Battalion Eighth Marines, had retired did a few feel free to publish their knowledge of these events.

I agree that sending Marines to Beirut as "peacekeepers " was a mistake and not allowing the marines guarding the embassies to have loaded rifles was lunacy. I just would like to know what rationale the administration gave for not striking in the Bekaa Valley if they knew some of those responsible for the embassy bombings were there.

@@Docjonel - I'd venture a guess that an attack in the Bekaa valley might start up yet more Syrian-Israeli conflict in Lebanon. They just had a small war there a couple years earlier, and was a front line in the powder keg. Not to mention possible conflict with both sides.

Hindsight is always 20/20

The computer failing before bomb release is also a certified A-6 moment

Thanks again!