Feels to me like the players should also be punished. Large fines for players, suspending them for several years and stripping their title would really make this a punishment.

They totally got away with it. Completely and totally.

"do you want to suspend them for life like Pete Rose" ......ummmm yes...and I'm serious af too. Anybody having anything to do with this from the owner to the waterboy should be gone imo...integrity of the game should count for something

This wasn't "bringing down the hammer". The Astros are keeping their World Series title. The fans will complain for a few years but MLB doesn't add asterisks to titles or records. They got away with it.

They essentially paid $5M for a World Series

The one year suspension should be for any player involved. Strip the title. Nobody won the World Series in 2017.

This is far worse than what pete rose did. Slap on the wrist. Yeah rich we dont know but Dodgers lost 12-13 in one world series game. What really bothers me is that MLB or the yankees or the Dodgers did not catch this. If not for a random fan, (johmboy I think) it would Never have come out!!

Punishment was a joke... Astros got away with it.

Far worse than Pete Rose, on par with the White Sox scandal. Strip the WS.

Slap on the wrist punishment. I thought this was automatic title vacation at least.

Rich it is not enough if the players are not suspended involved for a year as well. It has been well documented that the cheating idea came from the players. All this tells players is they can cheat as much as they want with no consequence.

I’ll be completely transparent by stating that I am a Dodgers fan. However, this is far from an acceptable punishment that is fair and that will deter any other team from doing this in the future. It was well time and orchestrated in its release. Jim Crane wins and MLB loses.

"Bring down the hammer" LMAO. slap on the wrist. What a joke

So when do all the sports talking heads start taking credit away from the players like Altuve or Springer or Correa and questioning their stats like we all did for the PED scandals ?

20 years ago when MLB salaries started routinely breaking the $1 million mark, friends and I would joke about whether the game would be the same now that a bunch of millionaires were playing against other millionaires... Lol! The spirit of the game was definitely altered. Fast forward to today where virtually every franchise has a valuation of $1 billion or more, and what we have instead of teams in competition with each other is multinational brands vying for global market-share. And all of these institutions are now owned by billionaires or equally wealthy consortiums who have an orthodox belief in the bottom-line. All of this has badly damaged the soul of Baseball. There's no way that Manfred could police his bosses effectively and objectively and still expect to keep his job. The MLB has become just like every other corrupt, parasitic "too big to fail" institution. And it only took 174 years! Boys of summer my arse... it's more like "boys of diversified portfolios and guaranteed defined pensions". That doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, lol. Rant over :(

Meanwhile my Dodgers are left with nothing. This was a slap on the wrist.

They need to add a few more names to the Permanently Ineligible list. This is on the level of 1919.

I am a die hard GIANTS fan, so you KNOW I HATE the Dodgers. That being said, I feel the Dodgers (and every other team the Astros played) were duped. I'm all about fairness. I was happy the Dodgers lost to the Astros in the past World Series. But now, I'm not. Seeing all this scandal, the Dodgers were NOT beaten fair and square.

Just remember, Houston won due to the "analytics"

Did he make an Eric Cartman reference at 8:05 or have i just watched too much South Park?

its crazy when you look at dudes like Marwin Gonzalez. Look at his career AVG. then look at him as mr .300 for one year... guess what year that was. 2017. How many more?

Eisen is wrong when he says "we don't know how much this was utilized." I just watched a video on KZfaq that shows literally every single Astros home game and the "boom boom" sounds against the trash can in every game.

Not all Houston astros are scumbags.Josh Reddick built a Million Dollar Stadium for Handicap children in our county.He also helped get the money for building a Large baseball complex with hitting cages and all.We are a small county and this was yuge for our area.

What discipline is coming for the players?

Little league has more integrity and respect for the game than MLB 🤣😂

This was organized by the players. What was Hinch supposed to do since any verbal reprimands were laughed off, take it up with the players’ union? Go public with the information and destroy a front running team? He couldn’t run roughshod over the players like an NFL coach or GM, so what are the options?

Am i fucking crazy or am i hearing music in the back ground of this video and its driving me fucking bananas.

You have to strip that title. You just have to. Not saying you give it to the dodgers, but you can’t let the Astros keep it

I'm looking forward to the documentary on their cheating--"Bang the Drum Once or Twice."

I think the fact that the Astros we’re proud of that year’s championship knowing they cheated to get it, speak volumes. Character flaw on steroids.

Cora just got fired from the Red Sox. Is Beltran next?

The irony Rich. Looks like Michigan “messed with the bull.”

He probably destroyed the moniters as a preemptive attempt to save his ass

Saying we don't know how much their cheating is useful so we can't punish them as harshly is the same as saying we didn't know how much money Pete made in betting games. They cheated, and I'd even argue this is a lot worse than Spygate, they (as an organization) should be punish more harshly than whatever slap on the wrist the MLB gave them. Ask any owner and they'd probably all say they'll take the Astros punishment for a WS title.

It’s about “confrontation” and passive/aggressive personality, Rich. It reminds me of when Kerry Woods destroyed Sammy Sosa’s boom box at the end of the 2004 baseball season. Real leaders aren’t afraid of confrontation. Leaders with the stripes but not the stones allow misbehavior but don’t confront the bad actors. It happens all the time.

This was a slap on the wrist to a major sports organization. They would pay $50 million for a world series title. They have it and they dont care about it being "tainted".

LMFAO 8:07 Authori-tie

If it wasn’t effective then it would’ve only been done one time and then ditched. It’s safe to say that it used a lot. The damn manager got rid of the monitor and then it was back up later on! So obviously someone thought it was effective.

Rich you’re usually right it wasn’t like it was a football player beating his wife or a drunk baseball player making unwanted advances on a woman,It is the people like you and your fellow casters, commentators ,that blew this out of proportion and you are the Marrk, the black eye on Baseball

This is like the bounty gate scandal with the saints. Everybody does it and we gotta make an example out of somebody

It's not enough the mlb didint punish them by firing the managers the Astros did it themselves. Your making it seem like that was part of the punishment.

The Owner or Owners should be punished, not the Players or Staff.

If it wasn't helpful then why use it?

Firstly, the punushment was a joke.. secondly, some of the players should have got the ban too.. all the highlights are of Springer.. Beltran should have got the ban too (he will be fired by the Mets.. Now he cannot work in New York)

We do know Rich. Wtf was that

I'm a red Sox fan, but please don't blame this on technology. There was one guy who was used to cheating and he brought his cheating ways to the team, end of story!

Baseball already has enough stains. These guys are content with their millions they make in their careers. Lol

Astros led in slugging and struck out the fewest...it helped a lot. The owner of the Astros can find 5 million in his couch. Vacate the series and have no champion for that season.

Weird Rich has a very different tone here than he does with Michigan's cheating scandal.

There was absolutely nothing useful with Pete Rose betting.He got a lifetime ban.

As a professional baseball player (not at all MLB) you will not swing and miss, If you know what’s coming. Foul ball or better. That is insane. Watch the video with the trash can. 8 straight pitches. Or balls. The advantage is insane. Punish them more.

The Astro's title should be taken away. That's fair.

Easy to be liked by your Players, not so easy to be Respected! Easy to be considered "A Players Manager" Not so easy to make tough decisions which the players may not like, but is necessary! All Hinch had to say to his players, coaches,or anyone else involved, (3) words...IT STOPS NOW!!! Easy to SAY your a leader, NOT so easy to be a Leader!

What did NOLAN RYAN know about the cheating?!?!

I kinda feel bad that hinch is getting all the blame now, but I would have fired him for gross incompetence. How do you not like this and totally fail to stop it

Rich says we don't know how much it helped or was used.. very simple, if it didn't help them, they would not have continued to use it. If it didn't work, then Cora wouldn't have brought it and implemented it in Boston.. MVP awards should be taken away from Betts and Altuve

Rich! It doesn't matter HOW useful it was. That's the common defense of this crap. "Oh, it didn't help that much.. they were still the better team." Allowing that crap as a defense simply encourages more cheating. To engage in the conversation, they wouldn't have done it if it didn't work. But regardless - it doesn't matter. They gained an unfair advantage - and as Bob Costas put it, "If you can't trust the integrity of the game, then you might as well be watching the WWE." The players were behind this. I'm fine with punishing the GM and Manager because they allowed it, but to NOT penalize cheating players is horrible. I'm waiting for a professional league to come down with the death penalty against the team for this crap. Vacate a title. Ban them from post-season play for a couple of seasons. Think that's too harsh? Guess what - it would work as a deterrent. Period.

If you've ever played any sort if competitive sport and somebody is cheating think a hacker on COD and he's on your team there are 3 types of people. 1) actively hates it and either quits the team or kicks off the cheater 2) passively doesn't care won't engage with the cheating just plays his game and let's everyone else do their own thing 3) likes how good the cheating makes the cheater look so wants to replicate it. And to be honest it's about even split for the 3 types in all walks of life I'll never understand cheating it always makes the game less fun when you have somebody on your team cheating and you get easy win but some people just are wired different

The cheating resulted in many opposing pitchers losing their contracts and getting traded. Lawsuits are in order against the Astros owner and their players. I'm fucking serious.

Honestly I think hinch thought it cost them a game, he was probably all for it when it was working

Still waiting for Mr Kraft to fire Belichick ... still waiting, Bobby Boyyyy!! 🤬

I think he destroyed the monitors because he wanted to have an out if the scandal was ever discovered. He would be able to say well I tried to stop it.. I didn't like it! Look, I even broke a few monitors. It's next level manipulation.

Ok, now that the astros got punished, let's go after ALL THE OTHER TEAMS WHO ARE GUILTY OF DOING THE SAME. IF MLB REALLY WANTS TO STOP THIS , LETS DO IT MLB.

Players should be punished, World Series title should be stripped.

I mean so many people are blaming hinch and the man is guilty. But how shameless are those players and the front office. The manager clearly didn't like but accepted it coz it was helping his team win. He was clearly frustrated with it hence he broke it twice but couldn't bring himself to say guys don't do it. But those players especially someone allegedly as clever as Beltran and Cora. U should realise he's not breaking this for fun he doesn't like it and he doesn't wanna say it we need to stop. Like shameless bastards they replace the screen twice and continue their nonsense

And none of these professional athletes care about their public reputations. When you're banking half-a-million a week, why care what the fans and what history think of you? The culture now values wealth far more than it values honor or honesty.

If it happened once, Altuve against the Yankees that’s all that matters.

What about the AL west? Sure as hell they used it to gain advantage in the division. Glad I'm an Angels fan. Rather lose with dignity than cheat and stain the game.

You always need a solid group of "low-level employees" to get the real work done.

Alex Cora blew it the most and should receive the Pete Rose Ban

How did he let his authority be undermined after voicing his displeasure with the situation and destroying team property? Easy.... he’s LYING.

Yeah, something it just make no sense with Hinch...

players needed to be punished

“ we don’t know how much this was utilized” yea. Yea we do

Take the damn chip away from them

They penalized the Braves worse.

I love this! One of it great presidents i believe once said. It not gonna destroy you the fact that you lie, what's gonna destroy you is keeping the lie going. Something like that... The have opened the gates of HELL....

Rich. You are a very smart man, but I find it so interesting that you are so “stunned” by these actions of A.J. Hinch. Just like you didn’t understand why the Raiders TE would self sabotage himself as an addict. The fact that you don’t understand tells me you have lead a very superficial life

5 million dollars and lost of draft picks. yea it's worth cheating. some clubs dont win a WS in years! So. yea, its worth cheating. why is it impossible to strip the WS trophy. Manfred needs to get his ass to work. change that policy.

Worried about baseball being on the up and up... come on rich... it’s baseball

Can y'all read the report and stop flaming my team :(

Maybe the real reason he broke the monitors was because they still lost the game despite using the monitors...LMAO. Take the championship from them, they don’t deserve it!!!

I want their WS trophy taken away and given to the Dodgers.

I still predict astros will win this yrs world series

I feel sorry for Bregman, Correa, Altuve, Gurriel, Springer, and the rest of the roster. That Management would hang the threat of them losing their jobs, reputations, and what I've heard from anonymous sources that AJ, Cora, and Lunhow threatened physical harm to the players, their families, and friends IF they didnt' do what they were told, is horrifying. I'd be surprised if the 2020 Astros roster can put up 50 wins, while surely playing with PTSD after enduring said atrocities for months.Being made to cheat?!?!? Good Lord!!!! Just saying that sends shivers down my spine. Firing these diobolical coaches and GM is barely the tip of the iceberg towards healing. Ownership should be made to pay for what will be years of therapy for these players, nay, victims which may not even help. Irreversible damage may have been done and what with the merely livable wage these ball players (American heros in my book), take home after taxes. Sigh.....I'm beside myself.

1 year vacation for winning the world series...its ridiculous

As soon as you say 'karma,' you're forfeiting all legitimacy. People are responsible for disseminating justice. It's childish even to reference some stupid idea of a cosmic scoreboard that levels all playing fields, and to reference it in a semi-serious way is demeaning to your audience, Rich.

Voice of reason? Hardly. The Astros win with Alex Cora doing this, then the Red Sox win with Alex Cora doing this MLB turned into a bad joke when they cancelled the World Series due to greed, now it is a parody of a bad joke.

Terrible take. You don't punish because of how successful the cheating is, you punish because it occurred in the first place.

mlb managers have no power.

Not enough! Trying to protect MLB, just haven’t realize you all will sunk it with the “punishment” The integrity of the sport is at stake, nobody will rely on MLB again with this consequences.

Get real Altuve was wired suspend him for life take the work series win away and award to the dodgers

Luckily no one really cares about baseball

after Pat McAfee stormed on the scene, everything else seems second tier.

MLB went soft.

Baseball has been ruined.

I'm anticipating stupid comments like the "Astroisks" from people who think they're clever.

Every player should be out of the game for a year. The title should be taken away from Houston. Next infraction of any kind by anyone else ever is out of the game is out for life.

"NOBODY CARES".. this is just another step in the failing sport known as Baseball. In ten years, if Hinch wins more World Series with other clubs, people will be saying he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. I heard all this kind of stuff with PED's, they made players out to be villains and now complain that they should be in the Hall. Cheaters win in Baseball, have for a long time actually, the history of the game shows it. All of this is just a failure by MLB to improve and grow their sport. The NFL has helmet communications but Baseball cant have a two way wrist band that lets Pitchers and Catchers communicate? There is so much technology that makes these issues non-existent. Nets down the foul line, Electronic Strike Zone, etc. Yet year after year MLB drags their feet and allows things like this to plague their sport. Move on, watch Soccer, Basketball, any other sport, just stop worrying about Baseball its dying and Nobody cares.

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!! Nobody Cares.