miss the podcast, used to watch cotgw a bunch in high school. Nice to see this video randomly getting recommended again and picked up by the algorithm
@msv6225 жыл бұрын
The “how” has been keeping me up at night, among other random questions. Thank you for this. You are my hero.
@ShapelessMonstrosity9 жыл бұрын
I was interested in the NES Zapper and came across this video and the rest of your "The Way Games Work" series. Great series, I really enjoyed it.
@terrorrname9 жыл бұрын
60fps on the NES... better than next gen consoles
@DiceEnjoyerSgtHops9 жыл бұрын
trainiac12 "Most TVs have at least 720p" meanwhile in 2015 I enjoy my 4k smart tv and my 5k mac :3
@snapphanen9 жыл бұрын
Starlight Official but you run games at 10fps #notworthit
@DiceEnjoyerSgtHops9 жыл бұрын
MrSnapphanen what? I run 60fps on many of my games but if you try to make your consoles run 4k it lags HARDCORE. maybe the consoles can't handle it. because my computer does it just fine
@snapphanen9 жыл бұрын
but 120 is where its at on PC
@farribastarfyre9 жыл бұрын
MrSnapphanen More like 10 to 15. Seriously, to get framerates and graphics even equal to most consoles, you'd have to spend at least twice as much, and to get more than that, you'd be spending at least a 1000 bucks, at which point you might as well just pick up airsoft as a hobby instead, because you'd end up spending the same amount of money, but you'd actually be doing something in real life.
@TSDT11 жыл бұрын
Didn't know about this series until today. I love how informative, entertaining and educational this whole thing is.
@Mentallyuntouchable7 жыл бұрын
Wow, your videos are top notch. This guy deserves way more subscribers.
@araneuskyuro5 жыл бұрын
Honestly
@RetroIslandGaming4 жыл бұрын
@@araneuskyuro His subscribers deserve more videos. ;P (seriously, this channel is top tier and I'm shocked they never got ultra popular!)
@UltimateDragonite3 жыл бұрын
Man, I'd completely forgotten about this channel.. I'm even still subscribed!
@presidentsnow731510 жыл бұрын
I loved this episode. Thanks for making it.
@BakerBoys9513 жыл бұрын
I love how you can condense things down into an explainable level. :3
@listennatalia2849 жыл бұрын
Really love these videos, thank you for making them. There's few things I enjoy more than learning how tech works.
@BlackGwarDeath66610 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I am only now finding your videos dude but they are awesome!
@TazManiac00812 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, this has been so puzzling to me for many years!
@RenegadeOfFunk0013 жыл бұрын
dude that was pretty sick i'd love it if you made more of these
@ghettokon10 жыл бұрын
Hi COGW, great video! I teach NES game development at Parsons the New School for Design in New York City. My take on why the zapper doesn't work on none-CRT TVs is still based on the scan lines but more from the software side. When scan lines run all the way to the bottom of the screen, it takes time go back up, this time difference is called vblank. This brief moment (about 24.5uS) is when NES does all the updates. The overall refresh rate (including vblank) is universal to all NTSC(64uS 228 cycles) or PAL CRT TVs so the zapper knows exactly when to look at the screen. With none-CRT TVs, NES can't predict what is on the screen anymore so the zapper stop working.
@Vallejo-man12 жыл бұрын
Amazing how complete the info are, love this videos
@fcbahamutzero4 жыл бұрын
Roo!! Comes back! You are the man!!!
@TropicalEncounter11 жыл бұрын
You sir have just explained your way to a new subscription. Good job to you, I look forward to seeing more!
@mr-dbs11 жыл бұрын
I came to learn about a Zapper, Instead I found an awesome channel full of very informative vidya game videos. Great channel. Subscribed.
@mediaglitch11 жыл бұрын
You keep blowing my mind with these things.
@RetroPiero13 жыл бұрын
Great guide man, how simple things were back then but yet, so revolutionary.
@walkwithme12 жыл бұрын
Great video. Entertaining, informational and not annoying. Thumbs up
@itsavinashtiwari7 жыл бұрын
thanks.. one of my life mystery solved..
@JailerGamer7 жыл бұрын
Avinash Tiwari yeah mine too
@JoshTrotter4211 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I've been trying to figure it out for so long! Thank you!
@bajan13ken8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this in-depth explanation. If KZfaq subscriptions were still actually useful, I would totally subscribe.
@theq1813 жыл бұрын
Great episode and great show very well made. Keep up the good work, you gained a new follower.
@undeadeath11 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was an extremely informative and interesting video! I subscribed to watch the rest of them.
@Tuppoo949 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who's able to give a simple, easy-to-understand explanation to how the Zapper works.
@SpinozasPsyche12 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I found the CRT explanation with the latency quite convincing.
@cinedelasestrellas10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation; this sheds light on something I remember as a kid. As you said, in games like Duck Hunt, the quick darkening of the screen was not much of a hindrance, but I remember owning a port of one of my favorite arcade games at the time called "Operation Wolf". Unlike Duck Hunt, where you only take one or two shots at a time, in Operation Wolf, the screen is always full of enemies and you are constantly blasting away at anything and everything the whole time. The darkening of the screen in his case made the game essentially unplayable. I had to resort to using the regular controller, which just moved a crosshairs around the screen. It was a disappointingly poor emulation of the arcade experience, where you got to use an Uzi that didn't blank out the screen and actually had a vibrating mechanism to produce a recoil-like effect when fired.
@pepe666610 жыл бұрын
this is an awesome video. well presented, and factual. there's lots of rare & good information. also thanks for addressing the rumours and getting into the technical details. best video ever.
@sweenthemachine11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation, always wondered how the Zapper worked.
@gimmethembeans69978 жыл бұрын
where has this channel been all my life?
@winstonfightinggiants73198 жыл бұрын
Great, professional video! good to see some people have figured out how to present information.
@luciferseamus7 жыл бұрын
epic epoch in the background!! Chrono trigger for life! Also, great vid, very informative
@PSI_Nightshade13 жыл бұрын
I need to get my hands on a CRT TV so I can use my Zapper and Super Scope again. Great job like always, Roo!
@JamesSmith-xf8pq8 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 80's. A great time. A fantastic time. A simpler better time. No helmets, no safety crap. You learned lessons the good way, the hard way.
@JamesonMS11 жыл бұрын
You, my friend, have just earned a sub. Keep up the great work!
@cpnnpr12 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Very informative
@PabloSeoane12 жыл бұрын
It's been so long since I wanted this Big Question to be Answered by somebody for me =D Thanks a lot man! Nice explanation
@jeremyclyde30069 жыл бұрын
nice. i was really puzzled by this looking back at my childhood.
@kane01337 Жыл бұрын
Great video - just discovered , nice interesting breakdown & footage :)
@thediamonddust8 жыл бұрын
That was an excellent video. I'm by no means stupid but having tried to digest what was going on on an article I found online I was still baffled - your video explains what is going on perfectly. Something I've wondered about since being about 5 years old, lol. I guess technically speaking, the screen is shooting the gun. Fascinating stuff, thank you.
@JakeOfAllTrades1711 жыл бұрын
This was a GREAT video!
@sandplasma10 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@Costar5811 жыл бұрын
Asalieri brought me here, I think I'll stay. Great video. Subscribed, gotta watch everything on the channel asap.
@TForceX13 жыл бұрын
Good work :) love the episode
@blee42713 жыл бұрын
Another great video good sir. Keep up the good work and teach the masses about vidya games.
@zioma50011 жыл бұрын
Cave Johnson, you're back!
@ROB3891500311 жыл бұрын
Great video! Took me 30years to get round to working out how these things work lol. Always assumed it was something to do with the screen flicker but didnt realise about the 'rectangles' showing up for a frame. Subbed. :)
@EricFullerton11 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered how it works. Thanks!
@araneuskyuro5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@mirrorpiece13 жыл бұрын
Really interesting Roo!
@stevenscottoddballz11 жыл бұрын
Ohhh, BOY! Maybe you can help me remember the arcade I keep remembering! It was a shooting game, but the video part was a hologram. i remember seeing the rotating drum whenever the action changed.
@FranciscoMaiaPT8 жыл бұрын
thank you.very well explained.
@TopperRico9 жыл бұрын
Detailed and interesting thanks.
@franco736310 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@Xelker11 жыл бұрын
very cool video man, I always did wonder how this worked.
@slimshady17878 жыл бұрын
Very educational video.
@TommyNavid11 жыл бұрын
Okay, bro. You just got favorite and subscribe, because that poster of the Epoch is EPIC! Crono Trigger is the greatest video game of it's time. Still playable today
@7Neutrino11 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks! This looks really cool!
@TheJollyGreen8 жыл бұрын
Great video
@pkhtjim11 жыл бұрын
Nicely informative.
@DanLekin12 жыл бұрын
Very good video! Cheers!
@Sye90913 жыл бұрын
NES Zapper - The Way Games Work "Psshh! I already know how that thing works, light detection!" *12 minutes and 32 seconds later* "I-I have so much to learn..." Very informative stuff there Roo !
@brpadington11 жыл бұрын
Love the Perfect Strangers clip.
@Atamoss13 жыл бұрын
Hey very interesting as usual Roo !
@ecthrilloholics8 жыл бұрын
strobe light covered with 5 sheets of opaque black construction paper with a small square cut out always worked when I was a kid
@thusharafernando44028 жыл бұрын
this could actually work given that the stobe light is off when the nes cheat detecting system is active.
@silixtuhibiski959 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I can't stop seeing the white square now...
@NNJAx11 жыл бұрын
that was cool , i enjoyed watching it. thank u
@deniskenn12 жыл бұрын
awesome info man. good job
@PlooKon0913 жыл бұрын
I always feel smarter after watching these episodes. :)
@electronash11 жыл бұрын
Great in-depth explanation! It might not be completely correct to say that modern LCD / Plasma screens update ALL pixels at once, but I see what you meant. They often use some form of multiplexing and display maybe a few rows at a time. For plasma TV's it's even more complex - many of them use a similar system to single-chip DLP in that they display sequential "bit-planes" to make up the shades of colours. They need to do this for Red / Green / Blue too, but they update much faster than DLP's.
@dishwater6311 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, found you through vsauce. Totally glad I did, this is awesome.
@DeepSpeeD1879 жыл бұрын
Nicely explained. Great video! Reminds me of my childhood. I still have that nitendo game console, can't wait to gather all the equipment and start playing. Now the only thing I'm missing is a ctr tv xD ...subscribed btw! :)
@spiderjerusalem10012 жыл бұрын
Great video, more like this please :)
@elisedoan708911 жыл бұрын
that caught me of guard too.
@HAMMlicius13 жыл бұрын
Why aren't you guys more popular?
@Soulsledge13 жыл бұрын
@HAMMlicius So true, your videos are pretty awesome, very detailed and edited in a way so everybody can understand. Keep up the awesome work :)
@oscuro896110 жыл бұрын
its funny how old technology was actually so clever and advanced for its time. So much of what we have now really still comes from this kind of stuff
@ConsoleCleric12 жыл бұрын
The sequence where the screen turns black, drawing a target around each separate target one at a time, is an example of SERIAL PROCESSING. Despite how quickly the gun-shooting process is completed, each step is still completed only one at a time.
@DamianYerrick11 жыл бұрын
Some Zapper games do use scanlines. On a CRT, the Zapper's photodiode is accurate enough to see up/down if the software polls it once per scanline (once per 113.667 cycles), just not left/right. Operation Wolf uses a white screen to tell up/down and then sends a white "cloud" from the left side to tell left/right with sequential targeting. The homebrew game Zap Ruder does the same thing.
@joemieszczur97358 жыл бұрын
i have something that wasn't mentioned. when i was a kid i found out if you point the zapper in the upper left corner of the tv it would ALWAYS give you a hit in duck hunt, but specifically the "Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt" cart. it worked on every tv i ever tried it on, as a kid. but i never tried it on another shooting game (i only had that and Gotcha!, but i sucked so bad at gotcha! i never figured that game out). occasionally you would have to angle the light gun a little different for it to work. my guess was the light was following the curvature of the screen. but i always thought it was inverted, flashed white and showed black for the targets, funny how the eyes play tricks lol. oh and i only tried it with the orange and grey light gun. never had the grey one.
@maximillianrexcarpediem146910 жыл бұрын
6:02 - Perfect Strangers!
@GeekThingsPodcast11 жыл бұрын
super cool stuff
@bobskie3218 жыл бұрын
4:38 Using that principle it is possible to develop a game which the zapper works on HDTV. All you need is to calibrate the input lag before playing by pointing the zapper at the TV screen.
@K0rNb4LL8 жыл бұрын
I don't see this happening. You would have to have the screen flash before the gun activated the sensor and I doubt the gun itself has the programming to be delayed like that. Input lag wasn't a thing until HDTVs came out so they wouldn't have known to plan for it back in the 80s.
@jimday6669 жыл бұрын
very nice, very nice. subscribed!
@AlexChama11 жыл бұрын
I meant the flair and the better generational fitting of devices and technology, but you're right in that, too! :)
@RetroPiero13 жыл бұрын
can you believe these thing still work just as good?
@111EJG11 жыл бұрын
Your videos plain incredible! You leave no detail unturned or questions unanswered. How long does it take you to get enough information to actually make a video though?From what I can guess, probably a while. Keep up the good work! :)
@junesewage10 жыл бұрын
I miss this game I used to play it all the time it was my fav... But haven't play it in a whole tho
@Pegwarmers9 жыл бұрын
Wow, very technical.
@SoftOtaku10 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative and well-made. One thing: Zapper guns don't work with some late model high grade CRTs. I found out the hard way.
@Shinntoku13 жыл бұрын
Nrrrrg I want that Epoch poster!
@MonstaFishKeeper8 жыл бұрын
Always wondered
@cormacsee11 жыл бұрын
great vid thanks
@CarterG4Y9 жыл бұрын
Is that seriously a poster of the Epoch on the wall? That's amazing.
@psychokinrazalon9 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Zapper will get some more time in the spotlight with the Duck Hunt Dog coming in as a fighter in the new Smash Bros game.
@LtDipstick11 жыл бұрын
diggin the aperture shirt
@ClanOfTheGrayWolf13 жыл бұрын
@AMTProductions1 Perhaps not, but I was using it to mean a peripheral that was made available after the initial console was first sold, which it was.
@DFX2KX11 жыл бұрын
I loved my zapper, never had anything else but duckhunt for it, though.