Did Laine put in his time? I recall him being on the opening night roster, as an 18-year-old. Kyle Connor was a mainstay on the roster early in his second season. Same with Hellebuyck? Now, look at players like Heinola, Capobianco, Gawanke, Chisholm, Kovacevic and Salomonsen. Two of those guys were lost for nothing on waivers, another left after never getting an opportunity, and another is a UFA because he didn't get in enough games prior to turning 25.

@@pomerlain8924 laine was a 2nd overall man wakeup that’s a horrible comparison. Kyle Connor played college then on the moose then proved himself. If rutger went to the moose I bet he’d get nhl mins in no time. Heinola has been treated brutal, capo was just an unnecessary signing adding to a logjam of dmen. Chisholm was a victim of the logjam and left but that’s natural in the nhl. And salomonson is 20 years old and has been playing in Sweden and will get on the team as soon as next year so that’s a brutal comparison as well. And gawanke we traded to San Jose bc he wasn’t good enough to make the jets, and wasn’t even good enough to make San Jose so left for Germany.

⁠@@neatmike7184Laine also played pro level hockey in Finland, American college leagues are nowhere near that level

@@mister_salmon5693 ya exactly lol that was a brutal example from that guy

If the Winnipeg Jets are a draft-and-develop team, why: - have they: -- gone nine straight playoff games having allowed at least four goals and won only ONE of them? -- yet to win a playoff series following a 2021 sweep of the Oilers? - is Kevin Cheveldayoff still their GM even with: -- no post-2018 conference final appearance? -- his newest Habs', Canucks', Flames', Leafs' and Sens' counterparts having been appointed after December 2021, leaving only his Oilers' counterpart, Ken Holland, as having been appointed no later than the 2019 off-season?

Chibrikov is in Russia this season for some reason or other. School? McGroarty would be a cancer in the locker room. Wait and see what we get for Ehlers (who has stated he will not re-sign) and McGroarty. Chevy will make a great deal.

There's nothing entitled about it. He's not going to sign just so he can spend years buried on the Moose while guys like Appleton, Iafallo and Stanley are given preference. Look at the history of the Jets recent draft picks. Heinola has been buried on the Moose. He made the Jets out of camp last year, breaks his ankle, and doesn't get another chance. Guys like Lambert, Chibrakov, Salomonssen, and Barlow, to name a few still don't have a guaranteed chance to be regulars. How long is it going to take for people to understand that this current culture around this team is not working. Look at the lack of results in the playoffs. Patrik Laine was playing as a rookie. Andrew Copp was playing as a rookie. Jacob Trouba was playing as a rookie. Connor Hellebuyck was playing as a rookie. You're not developing young players by keeping them constantly buried on the Moose. Look at other teams around this league. Look at the Stars with Wyatt Johnston and Logan Stankoven. Look at the Hurricanes with Seth Jarvis. Look at the Rangers with Braden Schneider, Alexei Lafreniere, and Adam Fox. Look at the Bruins with Matthew Poitras and Mason Lohrei and John Beecher. Just to name a few. They don't just draft young talent. They give the young talent a realistic chance to succeed, and even if they stumble early one.

@@pomerlain8924 Sorry, not going to get into with a Jet supporter, as I'm one as well. Please look at how players like Schef, Lowry and Conner began their early years as Jets. As far as the other Jets you listed, they have only been drafted in the last year or two. There time will come, as would have McGroarty. Now, as far as Heinola and Perfetti, I don't hold them in the high regard as some do. Continue, but I will disagree. Heinola isn't Makar as many Jet followers believe he is and Perfetti, well he's got many backing him, but he does play. I will say no more.

​@@camper2737 The problem you all continue to have is that you're happy to have these prospects, but don't want to use them. That's the problem with this organization. They continue to pay deference to vets and don't play young guys. And the prospects get buried in the AHL. Leon Gawanke was a RHD with a big shot that never got a chance and signed in Germany. Declan Chisholm never got a real chance and is now a regular on the wild and QBing their second PP unit. And if Ville Heinola is not that good, why is he not traded. If he's not that good, why did he make the team out of camp last year? The organization has buried on the Moose for years and killed any trade value he has. That's not how you treat prospects. Look around the league. Contending teams are actually giving rookies a legit chance to play. Look at the Stars. Look at the Rangers. Look at the Hurricanes. And the Panthers may not have had rookies, but they had a whole lot of players who had been contributing early on in their career. Most of the guys are 27 or under. Most of the Jets are 30 or over. And this current approach the Jets keep taking with prospects is not making this team better. They're not contending for a cup. In McGroarty, you have a skilled physical forward, which is something the Jets do NOT have and something they sorely need. Guys like Appleton, Iafallo, and Namestnikov are not difference makers, and McGroarty, as a raw rookie could make more of an impact. And the misperception is that McGroarty wanted a starting spot waiting for him. That is false. What he wanted was to be given a realistic expectation that he would have a chance to make the team next year. And what was related from management was that there wasn't a realistic chance of that happening. And that's the problem. You have a stud first round pick, and you don't want to give him the very best chance to make the team. Are players like Appleton, Namestnikov, Iafallo and Niederreiter so much more important than giving a stud in McGroarty a chance? And then you wonder why this team is nowhere close to winning a cup.

I legit think he was wanting to play with the Jets if he was given a fair opportunity to have chance. And as good as he is as a prospect, and the fact that the roster is in desperate need of some new blood, he should have gotten an opportunity. But when they said there's no realistic path to him making the line-up next year, and knowing the history the Jets have of having prospects toil away on the Moose, Rutger wasn't having that. Totally understand where he's coming from. If the Jets won't give him a real opportunity to play, trade him to a place that will. The Jets organization is shooting themselves in the foot by living in this bygone era where they keep prospects in the AHL for years and reward loyalty. This is a results-based business now, and you have to play your prospects to see what you have.

Maybe a package deal. Utah has the 6th pick on the block. Jets could easily trade Rutger and another pick or player. (Could flip that pick)

If Dylan dont resign, They wont have any STONES on D other than Stanley,I ~d try for WIFI and a first out of Montreal. Defense is played a lot behind the net /along the boards they have too many PUCK mover types not enough bulldozer types

How about a trade for Trevor Zegras? The Ducks would definitely do that trade. Plus, I really would love Zegras on our team. Zegras and Vilardi together would be awesome.

Or, if the jets won’t guarentee him a spot and think he needs to go to the AHL, Then why should he go there? Just keep refining his game in college

How has not fast-tracking any of the other Jets draft picks improved the team? McGroarty is a leader who can be the heartbeat of the team. He more than likely may not need AHL seasoning. But how will we know if he's not given a true chance. Trouba, who also went to Michigan, didn't have AHL seasoning, and he played his first game for the Jets at 19 and was a mainstay until he was traded. McGroarty would make more of an impact than Mason Appleton or Alex Iaffalo. And what impact Logan Stanley having when he's not even a regular in the top 6. He should be in the AHL, but instead he got protected over better players like Kovacevic, like Chisholm (who's QBing the second PP unit for the Wild), and even Michael Eyssimont (who signed a two-year extension in Tampa.

​@@pomerlain8924He`d Be exposed for better or worse in the AHL ,its disrespectful to bypass protocol team leader my ass ,he`s not a team plyer right now \

I like this take. I definitely see both sides. Would be interesting to know how clear his path truly is.

@@Pizzaplease477 When he’s a UFA we will see who was right

Not the jets. I was the biggest rutger fan out there, had expensive stuff signed by him, but this is completely rutger being entitled. The jets wanted to sign him in April but he wouldn’t sign because we couldn’t guarantee him a spot on the team. He’s gotta learn you have to put in the time and actually earn a spot in the nhl. This isn’t on chevy at all.

@@neatmike7184 He's not being entitled. They told him they don't have a clear path for him making the team. So why would he sign? He's a first round pick and wants a path to making the team. Not wasting away in the AHL. That's already happening with Heinola, Salomonson and Lambert. Not to mention how Perfetti was treated. This is a culture problem that's on Chevy. He pays too much deference to veterans while shafting young talent. Leon Gawanke left for Germany. He was a right-shot d-man with a heavy shot that tied for the AHL lead in goals from defenseman last year on the Moose. What have the Jets needed desperately? A right-handed defenseman with a big shot. He never got a chance and chose to sign in Germany. The Jets organization seem to think burying young players in AHL for years is the proper development path. It's not. You have to give young players a real chance at playing. If they succeed you move forward with them. If they're stumbling, then you send them down to refine their game.

@@pomerlain8924 actually you’re wrong on many accounts. Gawanke was simply not good enough to make the jets and even if he was, he didn’t straight up leave us for Germany. We actually traded gawanke and then he left after he wasn’t even good enough to make San Jose. Ville has been treated brutal youre correct but he would’ve been on the team this year if not for injury. Lambert isn’t having that done to him he’s been given a chance in the nhl already and will only get more chances possibly making the team next year. Morrissey, connor, hellebuyck etc. all put in time on the moose that’s how it works when you’re a draft and develop team. Connor even played college and THEN went to the moose where he proved he was nhl ready. The jets have a path for him, but it just wasn’t a guaranteed spot on the team in the upcoming season which makes total sense especially when you’re a contending team.

​@@neatmike7184The Jets are nowhere close to contending. And just because others put in time on the Moose in previous years doesn't make that the norm now. You can't keep young players marinating in the AHL for years. The Stars were contending for the top spot and brought up Logan Stanloven. The Rangers gave their rookie players real chances to play, like K'Andre Miller, Braden Schneider, and Lafreniere. This whole culture this organization has with rookies is what's holding this team back. What has this team done since 2018? But yet, they should keep going with the same development process because the other players went through it? Nevermind that this current team, full of veterans, folds anytime they face adversity. Nevermind, that this team full of veterans doesn't have enough players built for the playoffs? Never mind that this team full of veterans continues to have scoring droughts anytime the top 5 can't score because of lack of scoring depth. So when Rutger is tearing it up on another team and being a big factor in that team making the playoffs and going far, and the Jets are once again losing in 5 games, just remember that we could had McGroarty and didn't give him a realistic chance to play because he just had to follow the blueprint that other players had to go through. And expect this to happen again and again because the Jets now have a reputation for how they screw over prospects. Having them is better than using them.

@@pomerlain8924 I’m sorry but I’m not reading that lol, jets are a really good team u can say what u want

There are no perfect prospects. Every rookie coming into the league will have deficiencies that they will have work on and improve. That shouldn't prevent them from getting a chance to make the team. If the Jets aren't going to allow prospect a realistic opportunity to make the team simply because he's not perfect, then they are shooting themselves in the foot. Especially, when they have roster players who themselves have plenty of deficiencies. Rutger's physicality to go along with his skill is something none of the Jets' forwards have. That, alone, should earn him a chance at making the team.

@@pomerlain8924 they probably think him going back to play at UofM is best for his development. it most likely is. HIs inability to excel against the best college teams is very telling. How will he be able to play vs NHL caliber players? teams that are successful always have their prospects be overready. he is not.

They’d lose 0 from this. He isn’t playing next year anyways it makes no difference

Worst take on here. Chevy is easily a top5 gm in the league. He has the hardest job in the league and is constantly making fantastic moves, and is debatably the best drafter in the leafue

@@neatmike7184 Top 5 GM? Please. This team has 3 playoff wins in 13 seasons. That's not top 5. And stop with the BS he has the hardest job in the league. It's a broken record. The job is to build a team that can contend. Not just win trades. This apologist crap towards Chevy is pathetic. The facts are he relies too much on loyalty and is not willing to make the tough moves. He manages the Jets like an AHL or WHL team, instead of an NHL team. And you can't claim this is a draft and develop team when you keep multiple draft picks buried on the Moose for years without getting a true chance, which tanks their value. Like Heinola. Like Gawanke, who is a RHD with a big shot, that the Jets have sorely needed. And he wound up signing in Germany after busting his a$$ for years with no reward.

@@pomerlain8924 gawanke was never gonna make it u clearly don’t know what you’re talking about, we realized he couldn’t crack our lineup so traded him to the sharks where he could’ve even make THAT team so THEN he signed in Germany. U really want a guy who can’t make the sharks on the jets 😂 nice try. And no I won’t stop with the hardest job In the league because he by far is. Free agency is next to useless for the jets. He’s done unbeliavble and everything’s gone against him whether it’s with laine dubois etc. you don’t know what you’re talking about

Yep, It’s like the jets think they are entitled or something