The World's First 8K MSLA Resin Printer is HUGE - Phrozen Sonic Mega 8K Review

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Maker's Muse

Maker's Muse

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Phrozen's latest MSLA Resin 3D Printer comes with an 8K resolution mono LCD panel and can print up to 400mm high! But, should you choose this beast over several smaller printers instead?
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
0:54 Specs
5:30 Chitubox
6:18 Test Prints
16:36 Pros and Cons
19:16 Purchase Info

Пікірлер: 2 100
@fiddlemyfoddle6374
@fiddlemyfoddle6374 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaqrs are even 3D printing clickbait. now. What a time to be alive.
@ENJERUNE
@ENJERUNE 2 жыл бұрын
i read this with the two minute papers guy voice
@sjkgaming2174
@sjkgaming2174 2 жыл бұрын
@@ENJERUNE me too
@MessyMasyn
@MessyMasyn 2 жыл бұрын
"Amazing! What a time to be alive!"
@txma.
@txma. 2 жыл бұрын
If it’s real is it clickbait tho 🤔
@Stbaa77
@Stbaa77 Жыл бұрын
@@txma. Yes, if it isn’t real then it’s just lying.
@tr0nic_442
@tr0nic_442 2 жыл бұрын
"what should I print for the thumbnail?" "Oh I know, *a 8k resolution ass* "
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
gotta peep those voxels
@lionelhutz4046
@lionelhutz4046 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason this video caught my attention. Brain like butt.
@LordSniggles
@LordSniggles 2 жыл бұрын
Not just any ass, the ass that has turned more people into furries then every other anthropomorphic female combined
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 2 жыл бұрын
This begs one of those "Roses are red, violets are blue" poems. Cause it's true.
@scanningcars6500
@scanningcars6500 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@williamdeacon3981
@williamdeacon3981 2 жыл бұрын
A good tip for resin printing is make the edges of the raft angled upwards, this helps so much with removing prints.
@rafiqkatana
@rafiqkatana 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first of these printer videos I've seen that didn't bore me in seconds and was easy to follow and understand. With a comprehensive review with no bullshit. Thanks mate. I appreciate it.
@mr.v8156
@mr.v8156 2 жыл бұрын
This man finally understands click bait. I’m one day he’s collected over 10x his average view count XD
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
It's the ears
@privatelisting366
@privatelisting366 2 жыл бұрын
@@MakersMuse Make some hi-res Anime Noodle Toppers (they sit on a cup of instant ramen to hold the top down while it rests after microwaving) and give the g-code out for free and you will break the internet, resin printers will go out of stock across the world, doubling of your subs overnight. Then Twitter will cancel you. /s
@iSupermanCKi
@iSupermanCKi 2 жыл бұрын
My print is almost done...
@bogdanro2014
@bogdanro2014 2 жыл бұрын
I a simple man i do simple things if i see bunny ears i click
@Blackronin357
@Blackronin357 2 жыл бұрын
A man of culture knows a good thick resin print out when he sees one!
@vejymonsta3006
@vejymonsta3006 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Imagine a printer of this quality for 2000 dollars a few years ago. The progress of affordable 3D printing is amazing
@Reyeston007
@Reyeston007 2 жыл бұрын
How much is this
@norikmovsesyan6516
@norikmovsesyan6516 2 жыл бұрын
@@Reyeston007 it’s still $1700 lol. So not that much different.
@israelrobles681
@israelrobles681 2 жыл бұрын
@@norikmovsesyan6516 Redin 3D printers are around 250-750 US dollars from Small to medium size. you dont need the expensive ones
@norikmovsesyan6516
@norikmovsesyan6516 2 жыл бұрын
@@israelrobles681 right, but I was talking about this specific one.
@andreybushev3020
@andreybushev3020 2 жыл бұрын
It's going for a thousand now, crazy
@321357w
@321357w 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see an Aussie review, use a Photon Mono myself and after a fair few print fails I to have found that aside from sufficient supports, ambient temp is critical to good prints and ensure that the room is a min 23C and also leave the bottle of resin near the central heating vent to warm the resin prior to filling the vat.
@Arterexius
@Arterexius 2 жыл бұрын
This isn't only good for models, it's also really really good for prototyping massive amounts of smaller parts for mechanical assemblies that require several small parts. I'd get one just for that, as it leaves the parts far smoother than a regular FFF printer can achieve.
@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 2 жыл бұрын
Resins back on the menu boys! Nicely done and I was just thinking I need to break out my space heater for my resin print room as that temp challenge is a very very real thing.
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
I reckon the heated vat approach is killer, can't wait to see it rolled out!
@ClayMann
@ClayMann 2 жыл бұрын
I spent ages looking up different mini heaters. Everything from reptile tank heater mats to space heaters. In the end I went for a normal space heater with a temperature gadget sitting next to the printers. I don't even start a print until I see its toasty in my shed and that has seriously reduced my fails by an order of magnitude. I'd love a more automated setup with temperature control but this is an expensive hobby and I'm fighting my battles as money allows haha.
@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClayMann thats what I run with as well. I will fire mine up for a bit then shut it off if im not with it,.
@laartwork
@laartwork 2 жыл бұрын
@@UncleJessy living in L.A. it was never an issue in the garage. I moved to Albuquerque and in the winter it did get close to freezing weather. Lots of failed prints. I have photo mono x. Is it OK to have inside the house?
@karlh6692
@karlh6692 2 жыл бұрын
@@MakersMuse Inkbird do a nice 240 volt thermostat that controls heating and cooling. I built a cabinet with a 300watt 240v PTC heater fan combo and a PC fan to exhaust the cabinet if it gets hot. Not sure what I will do with cooling when summer is here in melbourne aus.
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 2 жыл бұрын
I love it that when you manage to get a macro so close you see the layers on a resin print, you make your own fingerprints look like mountains
@YEAHKINDA
@YEAHKINDA 2 жыл бұрын
"Yeah so first few things to make with an 8k resolution printer, go." MM: "Hmm Lola Bunny sounds good" "Wha-?" MM: "Rabbet"
@LaSombraa
@LaSombraa 2 ай бұрын
“Cringe”
@shaunhall960
@shaunhall960 2 жыл бұрын
OMG! This is a game changer! I'm a metal artist and the possibilities are making me crazy excited! Thank you for the review and now I'm a subscriber.
@TKs3DPrints
@TKs3DPrints 2 жыл бұрын
use a hairdryer on the supports it will heat them up and make them flex and easy to remove from models leaving no puck marks. i also use the hairdryer to warm up the resin before a print. :) hope this helps with your cleanups.
@Coastal_Cruzer
@Coastal_Cruzer 2 жыл бұрын
I've actually been using a similar technique by soaking my prints in hot water after cleaning with alcohol, albeit before curing
@andrewgillis3073
@andrewgillis3073 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll have to try this. But I would need to buy a hair dryer first…
@nairocamilo
@nairocamilo 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewgillis3073 Thankfully, not the hardest part
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
Good tips! I used to blast FDM print chambers with a heat gun for ABS so it makes sense :)
@Coastal_Cruzer
@Coastal_Cruzer 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewgillis3073 use the hottest water from your tap, that should work too
@xaytana
@xaytana 2 жыл бұрын
I've said this before, I say this in about every new resin printer video I come across, and I'll continually say it again until there's actual change: Resin printers need to get away from resolutions and use PPI instead. Resolutions don't mean anything without PPI, a 5" display and a 50" display can have the same resolution but their pixel density is wildly different. Beyond this, we should also know pixel aspect ratio, if we're dealing with true squares or not. Further beyond this, we should also know Z axis resolution, as we can combine this with pixel aspect ratios and form a voxel aspect ratio, because even if the pixel aspect ratio is square, Z axis resolution won't always necessarily form a cubic voxel, but rather a rectangular prism with two square faces. Yeah, sure, you can figure out the PPI yourself, but that really shouldn't be necessary, just replace resolution numbers with PPI numbers on the box; this also doesn't fix the lack of information about pixel aspect ratio, Z axis resolution, and voxel aspect ratio. This argument is also entirely valid because any other printer uses DPI numbers, and not some arbitrary resolution of the print carriage axis. It's annoying that we're still using resolution numbers, especially on production and industrial machines, because it's really nothing better than clickbait, as the resolution number itself doesn't provide useful information as per the quality of the prints; and to make this issue worse, some printers don't even directly mention the size of the display, you have to go hunting through different spec sheets just to find what should be relevant information.
@LlamaCraft
@LlamaCraft 2 жыл бұрын
resolution is a easier measurement to market (AMAZING 8K RESIN PRINTER) sounds a lot better than 600ppi
@jakesnyder2667
@jakesnyder2667 2 жыл бұрын
​@@LlamaCraft Make that argument with the 2D printer market as well. Oh wait, you can't, because the printer market decided to actually advertise proper DPI numbers. Your marketing argument is nothing more than the product equivalent of clickbait, it's not need and absolutely worthless when relevant numbers are concerned. It's also similar to the display industry, though resolution there is actually a marketable number, but a 60" 4k will look a hell of a lot different than a 32" 4k at the same viewing distances. L take anyways, more people within the hobby and industry agree with the original comment, because PPI numbers are actually important when SLA and MSLA are concerned. Clearly you don't actually understand any of what's being talked about.
@johndurrett3573
@johndurrett3573 2 жыл бұрын
@@LlamaCraft Its not easier..it it simply the common description but average customer doesnt know the technical requirements - only that the number gets bigger so it must be better... which is why the argument from Peaches stands. If every manufacturer and advertiser switched to a true standard of measure like that...it would simply replace the inaccurate 4k/5k jargon. Which - playing Devils Advocate, is possibly why this switch will never happen..because Sales thrives on vague and generalized definitions so they can make their product pitch to sound like WOW Shock and Awe for could end up being a piece of crap.
@LlamaCraft
@LlamaCraft 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndurrett3573 Jesus I made two people angry over pixel density how I love the internet
@ahem6323
@ahem6323 2 жыл бұрын
Nerds
@johnkelly7264
@johnkelly7264 2 жыл бұрын
Great content, and easy to listen to with excellent detail. Just getting into 3D printing, so looking forward to more great vids like this one. Subbed here!
@korbyynbear5592
@korbyynbear5592 2 жыл бұрын
And that giddiness rt there is why I love this hobby! Thanks again Angus!
@M385M
@M385M 2 жыл бұрын
Once again an amazing video :) and im so happy to see my model being featured here. The necromonger blade is flawlessly beautifull printed on the Phrozen sonic mega 8k, its just sick :D
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
Such a sweet model, I love it!
@olafb.2929
@olafb.2929 2 жыл бұрын
@@MakersMuse Will we see it finished? Sanded and painted and presented with a huge smile?
@DarkISO25
@DarkISO25 2 жыл бұрын
Lola… a man of culture I see.
@privatelisting366
@privatelisting366 2 жыл бұрын
He's learning from MxR. "Dat ass!" Jeanie : "No Henry! Nooooo!"
@nick_steele9790
@nick_steele9790 2 жыл бұрын
@@privatelisting366 yesssss
@paytonarmstrong1
@paytonarmstrong1 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is stupid and off topic, but i love your desktop background. You are one of culture.
@joespadaro361
@joespadaro361 2 жыл бұрын
This ia a good review!!! The learning curve is massive, Thank You. it really takes a skilled craftsman who knows , 3D modeling, paint, solvents, resins, engineering design etc... It is not plug and play for the layman. So far I have been lucky with the Sonic Mega 8k but my background includes all of these skill sets professionally for decades. I prepped an indoor climate controlled room with a paint fan & a variac a wall of filters, rubber floor & laminated paint table.. On my first medium sized print I saw all the issues you mention half way through. I stopped the print tripled my wall thickness to 6mm, used heavy supports anywhere the angel was horizontal, set my infill to 50% & dug drain holes. Then I sealed the windows and put a space heater in the hall out side the intake room door. The room stays between 70 & 75 degrees. Every large print for 1 month now have been successful. Only some slight warping which I solved with more & heavy supports The fire proof exhaust fan turned down to 40 volts & laminated table helped a lot for cleaning with IPA & fumes.... Be careful this stuff is a flammable bomb, you must now what you are doing with IPA... I brush and paper towel wipe the build plate & parts. It turns out this is a science.. Great video you hit all the main points.... Hope this description helps to solve a few. 1 month in to resin printing full size sculptures and they are amazing... This is a dream come true... Warning Variacs and Ulstra sonics cleaners can cause sparks or ignition and should never be anywhere near IPA....
@lordyan3315
@lordyan3315 2 жыл бұрын
wow, I'm surprised that my species Rabbizorg got 3d printed, thank you for liking them!
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
They're wonderful designs!
@robokid20001
@robokid20001 2 жыл бұрын
Rabbit protogen Rabbit protogen
@ScamstinCrew
@ScamstinCrew 2 жыл бұрын
You must construct additional pylons.
@FranklyPeetoons
@FranklyPeetoons 2 жыл бұрын
Phrozen should include a metal block with pins that directly interface with the holes in the build plate. Pop off the build plate and gently push it down over the pin panel. The resin is flushed and the print is nudged off. Some re-engineering would have to be done. But it would be cool.
@CausticLemons7
@CausticLemons7 2 жыл бұрын
I've literally never even seen a 3D printer in person but I love your channel! I feel like by the time the tech gets down to me I'll be fully prepared XD
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! It's handy to know about even if you don't use it personally. It's a really accessible technology now for DIY / Projects.
@puppy_pause
@puppy_pause 2 жыл бұрын
Great review thanks Angus!
@NBFL
@NBFL 2 жыл бұрын
interesting thumbnail
@rjc0234
@rjc0234 2 жыл бұрын
Effective thumbnail.
@it_genfailure
@it_genfailure 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know you could print vehicles with 3 dimensional printers Especially dump trucks
@SeSmokki
@SeSmokki 2 жыл бұрын
Lola Bunny: When you can't admit to being a furry.
@Renthur1
@Renthur1 2 жыл бұрын
Lola bunny and an open species from twitter, definitely not a furry.
@DoktrDub
@DoktrDub 2 жыл бұрын
@@Renthur1 so... a furry
@DoggyBingBong
@DoggyBingBong 2 жыл бұрын
I still can’t wrap my head around that he really just did that as the thumbnail
@originaltrilogy1
@originaltrilogy1 2 жыл бұрын
@@DoggyBingBong Check the views... it works.
@case3270
@case3270 2 жыл бұрын
Furries are the only thing that is surprisingly legal that should be punished by death
@glenrisk5234
@glenrisk5234 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a reasonably capable machine at a competitive price. Never done any 3D printing but have been thinking about it for a while.
@idrissamorehouse5776
@idrissamorehouse5776 2 жыл бұрын
Suuuper Rad video - as a lifelong scifi hobbyist who use to obsess over WARHAMMER 40K figures -this was extra fun to watch seeing that people can now design and print figurines so easily let alone as this technology improves over the coming years = gonna be fun to see this all evolve!!
@SuperSom3thing
@SuperSom3thing 2 жыл бұрын
the quality of some of those prints is incredible a few years ago i would've expected to see that quality only in very high end industrial uses not something a standard civilian can own. absolutely amazing. thanks for sharing Maker's Muse!
@WhiteWolfos
@WhiteWolfos 2 жыл бұрын
It's been done many years ago for that level of microns. For something close, one of my 2010 machines did 20-25 micron resolution at the consumer level. I just wouldn't recommend it for large solid objects since the pressure build up is insane.
@michaelbrereton5276
@michaelbrereton5276 2 жыл бұрын
But is the blade half a gram heavy on the back side?
@NightRunner417
@NightRunner417 2 жыл бұрын
YOU KEEP WHAT YOU KILL, RIDDICK!!!
@tophatvideosinc.5858
@tophatvideosinc.5858 2 жыл бұрын
A respectable clickbait. No false advertising and no red circles or pog faces.
@jademonass2954
@jademonass2954 Жыл бұрын
finally re-found this video again! that rabbizord model is really good
@JAEkebruh
@JAEkebruh 2 жыл бұрын
13:34 “I absolutely love the mashup of animal and robotic features” Who’s gonna tell em about protogens
@gamingknight4763
@gamingknight4763 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah tell me pls
@retronaut8864
@retronaut8864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this super detailed review! Great to see it in action. Also, very cool to get a look at it through a macro lens. Haven't seen anyone try that before. Quick note: those ridges are NOT a product of the screen resolution, but the layer height. You're looking at the size of the layer each time the build plate lifted. The screen resolution is represented in the roundness of the edges around the layer, which in my experience has been pretty much indistinguishable whether using 2k, 4k or 6k. Seems to be quite high enough in any case. What you SHOULD keep in mind, however, is the cost of replacing that screen when the UV light inevitably wears it out.
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, you can still barely see the pixels in some areas but it's incredibly difficult at this resolution. It makes the 50um layers look huge. The mono panels last longer but indeed are consumable, not sure how much this one will be to replace.
@fedakine
@fedakine 2 жыл бұрын
I am sure someone has already commented this but to answer your question from 11:35 : The slicer that I know, that can do these support is Lychee and it does a great job of it too.
@CatGoesMoo
@CatGoesMoo 2 жыл бұрын
The slicer that Titanforge use is called Lychee, has a lot more control over supports than Chitubox does.
@davydatwood3158
@davydatwood3158 2 жыл бұрын
Living on the Canadian Prairie, my first reaction was "it's funny that he thinks +14 is cold." My second, stronger reaction was "I should probably never to to Australia in their summer, because *I* think +30 is hot."
@chimerasofhafgufa
@chimerasofhafgufa 2 жыл бұрын
Living in Russia Can confirm, +27 and im headed straight to hell Heatwaves got the weather up to +37 this summer, so it's already too hot to live here for me! xD
@DH-be4ur
@DH-be4ur 2 жыл бұрын
45° starts to get warm.
@jacobmiller9468
@jacobmiller9468 2 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@andrewgillis3073
@andrewgillis3073 2 жыл бұрын
Hot and cold are relative. I grew up in the Midwest America, so high humidity and temperature in the summer is the norm. In winter, it averages near the freezing point. I’ve since moved to Southern California, and a cool day people complain it’s freezing. If your pipes aren’t in danger of freezing over, it’s not freezing. Cold, maybe. But not freezing.
@Kyle-gw6qp
@Kyle-gw6qp 2 жыл бұрын
Really? I'm from the Scotland at 20+ you don't see a single man with his top on.
@misteranderbro2328
@misteranderbro2328 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, I can't imagine the clean-up of this size of printer when the Mars 2 Pro is already a hassle.
@scanningcars6500
@scanningcars6500 2 жыл бұрын
This is my concern
@miencyfratgyueev3
@miencyfratgyueev3 Жыл бұрын
Dude knew EXACTLY what he was doing with the thumbnail
@pyramidsinegypt
@pyramidsinegypt 2 жыл бұрын
Lychee Slicer has some great support customization options, including, taper, lenght of the tip, penetration into the model, etc, so it looks like these models were sliced in Lychee (and if not, that slicer can to it so you can build similar support structures for your own prints).
@riggsvsoliver
@riggsvsoliver 2 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail tho, TAKE MY LIKE
@MsLostnightingale
@MsLostnightingale 2 жыл бұрын
YOUR BACKGROUND! I thought i was the only one that enjoyed those music videos xD
@iteerrex8166
@iteerrex8166 2 жыл бұрын
“Just check out those ears” Don’t you wana just bit em? 😉
@saperent
@saperent 2 жыл бұрын
Really love your MTC saga wallpaper. Never would have thought to find that here :D
@christopherpardell4418
@christopherpardell4418 2 жыл бұрын
The mega 8K is the third Photocure resin printer we have bought, The Peopoly L and the Form 2 being our first. We also have a Raise 3D pro that we bought used. The mega 8K, I have to say, is the very first printer we have ever bought that worked the first time, right out of the box, using their recommended resin and settings. Thus far, the only failed prints we have had were due entirely to our own experimentation with settings. If we use the Aqua 4K resin or the ABS-like resin, we get perfect print, every time. Its not fast, but I would rather wait a little longer for a great print, than lose every third print just to try and squeeze a print out faster.
@aru-YT
@aru-YT Жыл бұрын
You must work 19 jobs to be able to afford three expensive resin printers
@christopherpardell4418
@christopherpardell4418 Жыл бұрын
@@aru-YT No, I just run my own design business. And the form 2 was around 4K, and was not a good purchase. It never ran that well and the resins were too costly, and the build volume too small. The Phrozen Mega 8K was Only $2600, as we bought it on a kickstarter campaign, and the peopoly is even less than that, although I got mine for free by trading it for a Raise 3D Plus. A huge filament printer that we bought used for around $2,500. Keep in mind that when I buy 120 pounds of plastilene, that that alone runs over $1,000, and today’s LCD resin printers are not that costly. When I first started sending files to print, it was 1998 and a resin printer cost a hundred grand, so we used service bureaus. And I still routinely have to send large files to CNC mills where just the milled part cost between 6 and 15 grand. In the realm I work in, designing and making large sculptures, a modern resin printer is not a large expense.
@jester6819
@jester6819 2 жыл бұрын
5:35 Yooo the MTC Saga Background is neat! Overall, the 3d printer seems extremely cool. Looking forward to what'll come out of such a detailed 3d printer.
@owensparks5013
@owensparks5013 2 жыл бұрын
A side by side of the maker coin from this and a 0.2mm layer FDM machine would help put the quality in perspective.
@AT_Automation
@AT_Automation 2 жыл бұрын
Owen, I use lots of SLA and FDM (including some really high end stuff) my $200 SLA printer has vastly better quality than the $15,000 FDM printer I use at work. Its basically perfect. Also once you dial in the edge tolerance you can easy print a part with +- 0.005” tolerances (standard call for machined parts)
@limmyk4943
@limmyk4943 2 жыл бұрын
Game's workshop: *whimpers* "Its scared"
@curiositykitty
@curiositykitty Жыл бұрын
"YOU KEEP WHAT YOU KILL!" HAHA just watched Riddick again the other night. We need another one.
@the3dprintingbelgian
@the3dprintingbelgian 2 жыл бұрын
I see that desktop background there. A man of taste I see.
@miki9516
@miki9516 2 жыл бұрын
A little trick that I've learned after 1 year in resin print is to take a towel and spray a little bit of ptfe grease on it and with it oil the fep before the resin. That's work so good for me that i've never changed fep again and the "bop" sound is almost gone.
@ilyas5708
@ilyas5708 2 жыл бұрын
I assume it doesn't really affect the model much?
@miki9516
@miki9516 2 жыл бұрын
@@ilyas5708 not at all
@KentoCommenT
@KentoCommenT 2 жыл бұрын
Woah that sounds like a game changer
@NicksStuff
@NicksStuff 2 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting to see a video showcasing useful prints from a resin printer
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
It's possible but not the technologies strength imo, much better for detailed models. They're pretty soft before curing so keeping dimensional accuracy is REALLY difficult.
@NicksStuff
@NicksStuff 2 жыл бұрын
@@MakersMuse That would make the video REALLY interesting 😉
@aos7194
@aos7194 2 жыл бұрын
I've made a large handle for my garage door using the strong abs like resin from sirayatec. 33 days in Florida weather. No cracking or discoloration. Much better the the simple from sirayatec that begain hairline fracturing after day 2 and faield a few days later
@NicksStuff
@NicksStuff 2 жыл бұрын
@@aos7194 Yeah but that's something an FDM printer would do just as well
@SandyCrack69
@SandyCrack69 2 жыл бұрын
I’m about to use my resin printer to print around 600 corner connectors to build up to 30 custom spherical ( well dodecahedron ) LED light sources. Why not the most complicated print ( I’ve used my Cetus fdm to print the protypes ) it’s certainly the most practical way to make the quantities required.
@taerog
@taerog 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review.... And Yes, the failures where the supports. The Fast and more flexible resins require scaffolding support towers (minimum of 3 cross braced if used at any height) like what you did in Prusa.
@pixel2plastic832
@pixel2plastic832 Жыл бұрын
Amazing quality video as always ! If there was ever an argument of thumbnail effecting performance iono of a better example haha Also I’m so glad elegoo added the “vat cleaning” mode now it’s great!
@JonS
@JonS 2 жыл бұрын
As always, informative and engaging Angus. Whenever I start to watch a review of a resin printer, I wonder if I should get one. Then as the review progresses, I'm reminded of all the reasons why I've avoided this mess-fest and by the end of the review, I'm, "No way!" What I should keep in mind is getting resin prints from a service bureau if there's something I really want that isn't going to work on FDM.
@Cermagine
@Cermagine 2 жыл бұрын
Good shout on the temperatures for the resin, I ended up grabbing a reptile heater pad from the pet shop after pulling my hair and numerous failed prints once we entered winter. Just something you don't think about coming from FDM and it's not something that is widely discussed when it comes to troubleshooting failed SLA prints.
@888berg
@888berg 2 жыл бұрын
OOoooooo Nice 2600 and JD 8080 rack mounted behind you!! :)
@nexgen91
@nexgen91 2 жыл бұрын
Dude nice JP-8080!!!! Didnt know you where into synthesis :) That is awesome!
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
Cant beat its supersaw!
@C-M-E
@C-M-E 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw this machine: "Yay! I can print all my 7" figures in one piece!" It runs exclusively on Chitubox: "Well, it was good while it lasted. Hard pass."
@groundzero_-lm4md
@groundzero_-lm4md 2 жыл бұрын
New to resin. What's wrong with Chitubox?
@C-M-E
@C-M-E 2 жыл бұрын
@@groundzero_-lm4md Partly personal opinion, partly experience, but chitu recently went full retard and started locking new resin machines exclusively to their boards so you have to use their software. If you prefer, say, Lychee or PrusaSlicer, you're boned out of using those slicers. I used to prefer Chitu back in the early resin days, but Lychee is far and away a more efficient program, even the free version. And it works with a number of odd-ball printer formats, like my zcode printer that the factory software it comes with is absolutely garbage.
@groundzero_-lm4md
@groundzero_-lm4md 2 жыл бұрын
@@C-M-E it sucks that resin isn't as universally compatible with everything as FFF is.
@variancehammer246
@variancehammer246 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I've moved entirely over to Lychee, and at this point can pretty much rely on their auto-supports 99% of the time, and I'm not interested in going back to Chitu.
@Liccarus
@Liccarus 2 жыл бұрын
@@variancehammer246 I'm curious though, couldn't you save a supported STL from lychee and then do the final slice in chitubox? Obviously i'm against it in principal and am going to boycott chitubox locked printers.
@hz_rd
@hz_rd 2 жыл бұрын
there is usually a "tank clean" feature so you don't have to drain the whole vat after a failed print
@hiding_my_name
@hiding_my_name 2 жыл бұрын
That's a mighty fine Roland JP8080 you have in the background.
@Tragicasstea
@Tragicasstea Жыл бұрын
Happy New Years
@adriannaranjo4397
@adriannaranjo4397 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think just over 5 years ago the most available 3D printers were expensive and had pretty grainy prints Now we got 8K prints on extra large porous resin printers
@kongchho
@kongchho 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget you can adjust antialiasing to help smooth out the layers
@drgamebit6218
@drgamebit6218 2 жыл бұрын
No way I been quoting the chronicles of riddick line “you keep what you kill” to my friends while playing looting shooting video games to this day XD
@deadpoobob
@deadpoobob Жыл бұрын
I don't even plan on buying a 3d printer but the thumbnail got me to clicking the vid still
@JuffoWup78
@JuffoWup78 2 жыл бұрын
If heat is an issue, it will be interesting to see how it does in the heatwave you'll start to have in several months.
@harmless6813
@harmless6813 2 жыл бұрын
The recommended temperature for the resin I use is 25° - 30°C. Works fine above 20° and I guess it will still work fine at 40°.
@VampireOnline
@VampireOnline 2 жыл бұрын
I really need to get one of these. I feel like you could easily make back the cost selling prints.
@MadComputerScientist
@MadComputerScientist 2 жыл бұрын
Delighted to see Lola here, but absolutely flabbergasted to see Lordyan as well. Cheers from the dark side! Also nice printer too I guess.
@waberoid
@waberoid 2 жыл бұрын
Oh you gotta love the most replayed feature on youtube and see all the horndogs XD
@redkingrauri3769
@redkingrauri3769 2 жыл бұрын
Much as I understand the reasoning behind the porous design on the bed, I wish they'd angle it too. That way you get the resin able to drip off and the reduced suction. Still means that a flex plate for these beds is basically impossible though. Adding that would guarantee a mess.
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if adding a heavy countersink would help, and wouldn't add too much machining time. Might experiment!
@86abaile
@86abaile 2 жыл бұрын
Those long pointy supports are made in Lychee. It also has better support bridging meaning tall supports are much more rigid than compared to chitubox.
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
Ah awesome thanks, I hope it becomes compatible.
@harmless6813
@harmless6813 2 жыл бұрын
You can make those kind of supports in chitubox too. It's just a lot of work since you have to place them all manually.
@thedirtydoom
@thedirtydoom Жыл бұрын
Bro, i ain't even mad about the thumbnail. That's actually really creative clickbait.
@sloshforbrains
@sloshforbrains 2 жыл бұрын
Came to the thumbnail. Stayed for the Phrozen Sonic Mega 8K Review
@tomazvitokorenjakjaklic2152
@tomazvitokorenjakjaklic2152 2 жыл бұрын
Try just poring those two colours of resins to make marble effect.
@taylorkreate
@taylorkreate 2 жыл бұрын
wouldn’t they just mix and get a muddy color?
@amandahugankiss4110
@amandahugankiss4110 2 жыл бұрын
I run a mono and there is no marbling when you mix resins of different color. The resin is mixed too quickly. Using Inland "standard" resin I can mix anything together and the prints do fine. You get some funky colors. Most are nicer than the originals. Given that you paint most of this stuff, color matters little compared to using every drop of resin.
@Coastal_Cruzer
@Coastal_Cruzer 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly resin printing doesn't do that, the movement of the print bed will mix the colors together.
@gavinhicks7621
@gavinhicks7621 2 жыл бұрын
You’d need a very thick viscous resin to make it not mix right off the bat but over time with the bed moving it will inevitably mix
@gavinhicks7621
@gavinhicks7621 2 жыл бұрын
Responding to my first comment: It could still make a cool look because it would go from a marble look and fade to a mixed color
@Fake_Blood
@Fake_Blood 2 жыл бұрын
How much are replacement LCDs and how many hours do they last? Or is that not an issue anymore with resin printers? Enjoyed the video, no interest in resin printing, but MM is just such a likeable guy.
@erkan.arslan
@erkan.arslan 2 жыл бұрын
@Maker's Muse Wouldn't it be better if you rotate some models so that they would be parallel to the print bed? For example you could rotate both angel and blade models by 90 degrees. That would make print faster because hight effectively becomes lower. Also it would require less support material since surface of the object is closer to the bed, at least for angel model. What do you think?
@ry.hillner
@ry.hillner 2 жыл бұрын
12:28 for leading into the thumbnail. I'm surprised nobody else has tagged it prior.
@irkedoff
@irkedoff 2 жыл бұрын
For the thumb screws grind off the first part of the thread down to the thread min. diameter. Do 6mm or 1/4" at a time. This will leave the first part for locating. No need for them to put a cam lock on. That would increase the price.
@Mr.Riojas
@Mr.Riojas 2 жыл бұрын
Could also put some washers in there to reduce the need spin the screw as much. Heck, print some spacers until you find the right height to ensure enough pressure.
@kevincozens6837
@kevincozens6837 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Angus. Looks like an amazing printer. However, I personally don't want to touch resin based printers. I know it will be a little off topic but could you do a video about that tower of electronics you have sitting beside your synth. I would like to see what you have on that stand and what it all does.
@Jericho27
@Jericho27 Жыл бұрын
i find your S3rl MTC saga wallpaper to be top class.
@tiagoribeiro9908
@tiagoribeiro9908 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there!! THanks for the review! Really nice! May I ask you if you have anything on the 4k and 8k resings? Is there big difference? is it actually worth it? Thank you and keep up the good work!
@rasmus1600
@rasmus1600 2 жыл бұрын
Those "Ears"
@MakersMuse
@MakersMuse 2 жыл бұрын
Very big ears
@h7opolo
@h7opolo 2 жыл бұрын
i'm somewhat of an 🄴🄰🅁 man myself.
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 2 жыл бұрын
Very drool worthy! Love your work, and I’m keen to see more projects involving this radical piece of tech. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀🍀🍀🤓😎
@IcsulX
@IcsulX 2 жыл бұрын
For the miniatures, you could have stuck them way closer together. That's how I do it and it works. Basically I make all rafts overlap.
@artyartemis5752
@artyartemis5752 Жыл бұрын
I am truly impressed with print Quality... this save lot of smoothing polishing procedure
@Skil__
@Skil__ 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the most replayed spot in the video is 13:11 😂
@freelancemotorsportsllc2826
@freelancemotorsportsllc2826 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the LCD cost for a replacement? This is something I would like to take into account before looking into a purchase...
@Locane256
@Locane256 2 жыл бұрын
It's great to see a review of an ethical and cool company that makes a quality-ass machine!
@GVM69
@GVM69 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha good one
@jmssun
@jmssun Жыл бұрын
5:11 I always use a short L-shaped usb extension cable for two reasons. One, the L shape male end is to prevent accidental snap of anything attaching to the system. Second, because the drive gets pugged and unplugged so often, any wear to the connector happens on this cable’s end
@artee232
@artee232 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your valuable experience. May I know how you set up the slice program?
@dogbot55
@dogbot55 2 жыл бұрын
So for me it seems like "standard" 3d printing is still the most viable every day way to print, but rest is best for when you need something that seems almost layerless
@Coastal_Cruzer
@Coastal_Cruzer 2 жыл бұрын
Layerless or just generally high-precision. Though I do agree with FDM being more viable in general
@ginatails
@ginatails 2 жыл бұрын
Resin printers seem a lot better for if you're printing a lot of miniatures or highly detailed models, but an fdm printer is better if you're printing a bunch of functional/articultated parts, or just don't want as much post processing
@umbratherios5614
@umbratherios5614 2 жыл бұрын
regular filament 3d printers are a lot more maintainable too.... given that resin printers go the proprietary route a lot of the time, is a LOT more expencive, and the lcd screens used to cast the pictures of the layers you cure... just DON'T last. at all.
@Starganderfish
@Starganderfish 2 жыл бұрын
It really comes down to what you are printing and why. It used to be "small and detail go resin, large and unadorned go FDM" But big machines like the 8K are changing that. I haven't even fired up my FDM for 12 months, just using Elegoo Mars and Saturn and once the Mega 8K arrives, I may get rid of the FDM altogether. Once you have the settings and supports dialed in and have your processes refined, there's nothing quite like taking a print off the machine, washing, removing supports, curing... and then going straight to priming and painting. Even in the worst-case scenarios, a few minutes with high grit sandpaper and you're smooth and ready to prime. I do NOT miss hours of fill, sand, prime, fill, sand, prime, fill, sand, prime ad nauseum. And as you saw with the dagger Angus printed, props and large scale cosplay stuff off a resin printer is so insanely clean and detailed.
@ethaneveraldo
@ethaneveraldo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Starganderfish This channel is an FDM fan club, most still think FDM is superior and haven’t realized how cheap and easy SLA has become. The guy who said FDM printers are more maintainable made me laugh.
@oscarzt1652
@oscarzt1652 2 жыл бұрын
you get the latest, most detailed and most technically advanced 3d resin printer and you print a thicc bunny girl twice?
@TheFablekid
@TheFablekid 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that’s what you were supposed to do… :o
@mawinstallation6626
@mawinstallation6626 2 жыл бұрын
Dude got his priorities straight
@whosthere8658
@whosthere8658 2 жыл бұрын
hes a man of culture. He sees a thicc model and he print.
@ixcaflores3878
@ixcaflores3878 2 жыл бұрын
that outro reminds me so much of bo's skit about youtubers in inside
@durphurp1646
@durphurp1646 2 жыл бұрын
i dont even do 3d printing but i kept watching
@iiinsaiii
@iiinsaiii 2 жыл бұрын
You need to add a heater inside the unit. I use a incubator heater for all 3 of my printers. I keep the temp at 85F degrees, you won’t regret it. Another Tip: run the supports under hot water fir a few seconds before curing and they will come off so easily.
@scanningcars6500
@scanningcars6500 2 жыл бұрын
Which incubator heater do you use?
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping that's in Fahrenheit
@iiinsaiii
@iiinsaiii 2 жыл бұрын
@@rpavlik1 yes it is. 85F degrees
@henryD9363
@henryD9363 2 жыл бұрын
@@rpavlik1 Kelvin.
@Maverick7r
@Maverick7r 2 жыл бұрын
The print volume is just amazing... but I think I'll just stick with picking up a new Prusa whenever I'm ready for resin, lol!! 😁
@ryanzwe
@ryanzwe 2 жыл бұрын
The prusa resin machines are insanely overpriced and wayyy behind in technology, wouldn't ever recommend them
@Maverick7r
@Maverick7r 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanzwe They are definitely over priced for sure but it's also paying for they're stable software and tech support instead of messing around with buggy software. But this is just my personal experience. If there's something else on the market that will natively use good slicing software such as Prusa Slicer and is just over all reliable I'm all ears. 🙂
@hoport
@hoport 2 жыл бұрын
It is really cool how quickly technologies are growing. Like I wasn't really into 3d printing stuff etc and such resin printers I remember through vids from 2016, when even small ones were expensive as heck and resin itself aswell. But now you can buy such a best for 2k or less. I won't lie, but at first glance I was sure that such monster would cost smth like 6-8k or more. Hope that in another 5 years such stuff would cost just like a great reasonably priced pc peripherals setup like keys, mouse, monitor etc, so even more people would be able to afford cool stuff like this.
@cherryblossomscarletokami9841
@cherryblossomscarletokami9841 2 жыл бұрын
ngl i clicked on it to learn more about resin printers, and needless to say just based off the cute ass robot-rabbit thing, you get a subscriber
@TheREALBOJACK
@TheREALBOJACK 2 жыл бұрын
I just want a consumer 3D printer that works very well, is very consistent, doesn't have constant issues, that I can set-and-forget with confidence. Unfortunately, I feel like that's still a long way away. ...hell, we still haven't even fully mastered TWO-dimensional printers, yet. 😂
@icediverfull
@icediverfull 2 жыл бұрын
Considering Filament printers i can recommend the flsun Q5 Very beginner friendly, as it is pretty much Plug and Play and puts Out really good quality prints Out of the Box. Especially considering the price
@nrdesign1991
@nrdesign1991 2 жыл бұрын
Totally recommend the Ender 3 Pro, once it is correctly set up, and trammed (not leveled!) regularly it will "just" work.
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