Christianity did not descend from the Greeks and Romans. It was at war with them. Pick any topic--sexual ethics, equality of men and women, the nature of God, the nature of man--it was different in every way as was its precursor Judaism. Check out my book, Seven Ideas that Changed the World, for more evidence. Culture has everything to do with your belief in God. Tozer was right when he said, If you know what a man believes about God you know everything important about him.

You are overstating your case. Being a cultural Christian has nothing to do with Christianity?! Where exactly do you think cultural Christianity came from? No doubt Christianity has been influenced by Greek and Roman cultural, but Christianity was and is the tail that wags that dog. And your point about art makes little sense and proves nothing.

@@kentzepick4169 This proves that you are talking just to give some air to your teeth, as you do not know what Dawkins said about himself being a cultural christian. Christianity without greek and latin culture would be about the same as hebrew and islam culture. Try to use your neurons and speak only when you have knowledge, please.

@@namenlos2578 Ha ha-I’ve seen the interview several times, so, yes, I know what I’m talking about. Just because Dawkins doesn’t feel compelled to becoming a true follower of Christ even though he’s a “cultural” Christian doesn’t negate any of my points. Cultural Christianity is indeed the birth child of genuine Christianity. So the two aren’t unrelated, as you mistakenly believe. My prayer is that cultural Christians return to the fold.

@@namenlos2578 Duh-Greek and Latin cultures were partly shaped by, guess what, Christianity. And if you’ve got a problem with Greek culture, you’ve got a problem with the Bible. The Bible in greatest use before and during Jesus’s time was the Septuagint, written in, guess what, Greek. And I’m pretty sure all of the NT books were written in Greek. And it’s more than that, in many places the NT incorporates Greek concepts, most notably John’s discussion of the Logos. And if that’s not enough, most scholars say that many of the NT books use the structure and motifs of Greek letters and even rhetorical devices. But I’m sure you knew all that.

I'm not sure I follow your logic. You are right of course. People who are culturally Christian are not always believing Christians. In fact, in my estimation, more than 90% of cultural Christians are not believers.

Very good analogy. That's exactly what Dawkins is saying. He is a brilliant man who is a fool when it comes to the culture he lives in and how it came to be.

@@The401stprophet-vo9ku It’s what happens when you let biologists out of the lab….🧪

Bad analogy.

@@aghudumokowa241 I liked this analogy. Dawkins despises the very thing that he, himself, says is a great blessing.

​@@The401stprophet-vo9ku It's not that simple. Does liking Tesla electric cars mean you have to like Elon Musk and all his ideas and products?

You are right. He is adamant about what he does not believe. I still think the hard question for him is, Why is so much that blesses you based on a falsehood?

@The401stprophet-vo9ku I doubt that would be a hard question for him. He'd likely just say that fiction, art, and music doesn't require truth to be entertaining.

@@Grayraven777 He would agree that they are lies. That leaves you with the difficult historical question as to why "lies" have produced the best culture of all time. Pretty helpful lives I would say.

@@Grayraven777 Historically pretty much the opposite of what you state actually happened. Movable type printing was invented in Christian culture by a Christian. The Protestant Reformation was helped exponentially by literacy. Christianity is not losing its grip on our reality. It's larger than it has ever been. For example, when the Africans and Chinese learned to read Christianity experienced spectacular growth.

@@The401stprophet-vo9ku that's correct people ate up the bible when it was available to the common folk, but people put their trust in the preachers to tell them what it says, instead of actually reading it for themselves, but now it seems the only place Christianity is gaining followers is in America, and even that is now on the decline because of hypocrites like Trump and his maggots.

Not from a magic man in the sky, but from millions of ordinary Christians who through patient labor built the greatest culture in world history. I did not realize this until I traveled in Asia and saw non-christian cultures. Then I understood Samuel Huntington's phrase, "culture matters."

@@The401stprophet-vo9ku Ok, but historically non-christian cultures are not like us in lots of other ways, too. Non-Christian cultures are also non-enlightenment, non-industrial revolution, non-discovery and plunder of new continent, etc. Yes, Western culture was able to build great wealth for the past couple hundred years, but it seems a bit cherry-picky to claim what is "great" about our culture comes exclusively from Christianity. Besides, I agree that I'd rather live in a "Christian" culture than a non-Christian one, but I don't need to pretend that non-Christian cultures are wholly without merit.

@@ericb9804 You first have to ponder the question, why did the industrial revolution, the scientific revolution, the growth of free market economies, et al, occur in Western Christian culture? It is because of Christianity, of course. See Rodney Stark's excellent book, The Victory of Reason, for an expansion on this.

@@The401stprophet-vo9ku I'm sure Christianity played a role, and that's fine. But I also think plenty of other factors contributed as well, not least of which is the discovery of the North America. See Guns, Germs, and Steele by Jarrod Diamond. It strikes me as convenient to the point of disingenuous to insist that Christianity played some outsize role in the growth of Western culture in general. Besides, even if you are right and we owe all our success to Christianity in some sense, that still isn't a reason to believe in god, which seems to be the issue at hand.

@@ericb9804 Diamond's books is absurd. It is a crude attempt to deflect from the clear superiority of Western ideas--which he admits in his introduction. Ideas, not environment, made the West superior. These days it is rare for Christianity to be credited with an "outsized"" role in the success of Western culture. Mostly you get people running from the Christian influence as fast as possible. You get Diamond's environmental view, or the Social Darwinists with the "white people are superior" view. (which is currently out of favor.). Then you get the current Marxist view. "The West is not superior but is evil." They accuse Christianity of producing the worst culture of all time. At least they get the cause right. Whether or not you want to call Christianity a curse is another matter.

Not really. It means believing the sanctity of life, the equality of women, compassion for the weak, human rights, social justice, and the many other things that flow out of Christian assumptions.

You raise a good point about the Founders but their Christianity is something of a muddle. Some clearly were devout Christians. Some clearly were not. But all of the were steeped in the Christian worldview that produced the founding documents and institutions of America.

Isn't it though? The power of Christ to break through the hardest of shells is breathtaking.

He's not, though. Just give it time for that video to be addressed by people who aren't anti-evolution.

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