@@willc1294 The Z-95 was a decent ship though. (For it's time)
@TheGamingSyndrom Жыл бұрын
"you dont qualify for benefits"
@rayne_brown Жыл бұрын
Oh thats evil... I like it.
@inductivegrunt94 Жыл бұрын
I find it funny how this is supposed to apparently be a new better fighter to combat the A-Wing, yet the TIE Intercepter does exactly the same. Both lack shields and hyperdrives, just that the TIE Intercepter had more guns and armor on it
@90skidcultist Жыл бұрын
Interceptors can have shielding, missiles, 4 blaster cannons and 2 laser cannons, and a hyperdrives. Sometimes they would nitpick and have something like the upgraded 4 blaster lasers with the 2 lasers cannons, instead of just the 6 laser cannons, but leave out the hyperdrive and shields. These weren’t THAT rare to have.
@josephmontanaro2350 Жыл бұрын
It legit sounds like they heard about the T-wing and thought "yeah, we can make this even cheaper"
@Simon39759 Жыл бұрын
Multiple competing projects from competing design teams. Makes sense to me. And then maybe political pressure from one high ranking official to keep the clearly inferior design from being scrapped...
@Earthstar_Review Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the exact only reason that these things exist is that they're easier to land than TIEs. They have landing gear, and that means they're easier to train for.
@daleford8621 Жыл бұрын
@@Earthstar_Review TIEs have those huge flat armored wings. With this you're landing on your engines. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
@kabob0077 Жыл бұрын
3:45 Imagine being so bad you make the TIE Fighter seem preferable and more advanced.
@Kurayamiblack Жыл бұрын
The Empire: "It could be worse... Here, try this ship and see for yourself" 😏
@christopherg2347 Жыл бұрын
At least with that write-up for the D6 System, you would still take it over any TIE/in. Hands down. Everyone else would take it only because it was available (and nothing comparable).
@IlMangustaKMRUTEAM Жыл бұрын
In my opinion the TIE/ln Is a good fighter
@nightwolfnordberg94769 күн бұрын
@@IlMangustaKMRUTEAMit is good as dog fighter and intercepters.
@widgren87 Жыл бұрын
I almost get the impression this thing was meant to be automated and the pilot was added at the last minute... In my head it makes more sense to remove the cockpit, use the resulting space to add a integrated droid pilot and a torpedo/missile launcher and then have a heavy armored carrier deploy hundreds of these things at once, but what do I know.
@samuelhaverghast2442 Жыл бұрын
that probably was the original design, and it makes sense why they cut that out at the last minute, remember, Droids weren't particularly trusted because of the Clone Wars
@widgren87 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelhaverghast2442 True, still automation is pretty much the only way it makes sense to me. I mean it looks to neat to be a last ditch we-need-anything-that-works design...
@captin3149 Жыл бұрын
@@widgren87 Same, it barely looks like a step up from an ugly....
@mechredd Жыл бұрын
I thought about doing the same thing with a vulture droid, but more for sneak attacks and infiltration missions against separatist carriers and bases.
@G-Cole-0115 күн бұрын
i mean it already looks like an excessively habsburged vulture droid
@felps_4500 Жыл бұрын
Tbh, considering it's debut was in Dark Empire, maybe it was meant for a droid to pilot it, kind of like the Tie Droid
@EckhartsLadder Жыл бұрын
No, because it's used by the New Republic.
@felps_4500 Жыл бұрын
@@EckhartsLadder Yes, but it was designed for the Empire, or did I miss something?
@CFRF13 Жыл бұрын
The A-9 wasn't the only company starfighter to see rival Imperial service against Sienar's TIE series Starfighters in the Dark Empire comics. Incom also had the I-7 Howlrunner in service.
@cocacola4blood365 Жыл бұрын
@@EckhartsLadder And what was their other option? The cloud car?
@Eidolon1andOnly Жыл бұрын
@@EckhartsLadder It's *TIE Fighter, not "Tie Fighter" as _TIE_ is an acronym for Twin Ion Engine.
@johansmallberries9874 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea that cost cutting, bureaucracy and backing bad designs(slow tanks that trip! TWO Death Stars!, etc.) contributed heavily to the fall of the empire.
@johngancarcik5682 Жыл бұрын
Cost cutting at its finest
@andymac4883 Жыл бұрын
It's almost sad, in a way, that Dark Empire and its sourcebook's writers made a hotshot new starfighter, wrote about its good qualities, and then was straight out contradicted by later material so that their ship becomes a useless mistake.
@Omega_1111 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing... "Hmm, says here this thing has 2 heavy turbolasers, is really fast and a great interceptor" "Turbolasers? Seems silly to me, make them normal lasers" "Ok" "HAH only 2 lasers, this thing doesn't have squat for firepower! Lol, it isn't even a good dogfighter!" "But... You decreased the firepower, and it's an interceptor" "Haha bad design"
@Thememester439 Жыл бұрын
@@Omega_1111 turnolasers on a starfighter or small ship aren't generally feasible due to power requirements. The only reason ships like the B-wing and D-5 Mantis were able to use them is because they were designed to have dedicated generators and power banks just to power the turbolasers, and even then the B-wing could only use light ones and that's the smallest a ship can be to equip one
@jeffharris3718 Жыл бұрын
Video games have done a lot of reputation damage for TIE Fighters (and Stormtroopers, for that matter). The original trilogy clearly established that they were dangerous and could hold their own against Rebel ships. When we did a starfighter fan film, we had an X-wing get destroyed by a TIE Fighter. We had so many people comment that "X-wings have shields" and they therefore couldn't be destroyed that we made a montage of TIE Fighters destroying X-wings from the OT as a response.
@cocacola4blood365 Жыл бұрын
The A9 seems to be like the TIE Tank. Some artist puts it in a comic forcing some writer to create lore for it to explain it's appearance, but it's so ludicrous it's written into the in-universe category of "bits of history we want to forget."
@javierpatag3609 Жыл бұрын
But at least the TIE Tank _looks like_ something the Empire would employ, something in keeping with the Empire's TIE aesthetic style. This thing doesn't look like an Empire vessel. Because it foregoes the established look of the TIE Fighter, you have to be told that it's an Empire fighter to know it belong to the Empire.
@BlackOtter9 Жыл бұрын
tbh it doesnt even look like something from star wars altogether
@cocacola4blood365 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackOtter9 Ikr! When your creation doesn't even look like it belongs in the universe you made it for, maybe you should've refined the draft some more.
@MerculiarchSyn Жыл бұрын
I love how you are waking up and choosing to ROAST both Star Wars, the vehicles, and the fans, in like 50+% of these videos in the recent months. Keep it up 😂😂😂😂
@nicholasboyle3291 Жыл бұрын
More battle breakdowns
@jonmcgee6987 Жыл бұрын
One of the things mentioned about the fighter was that each engine and the laser cannons. Had their own power generator. Allowing power to be diverted if any of the generators were disabled. Only really useful if the engines are still working. Also it was created by Kuat to steal some of the lucrative fighter contracts from Sienar Fleet Systems for their TIE fighters.
@pwnorbepwned Жыл бұрын
For elements of the ship that the New Republic would be incorporating into future designs, look no further than the Jumpstar HPF starfighter. It’s a fighter made and used by the Galactic Alliance, the successor to the New Republic, in and around 130~137 ABY-ish. Physically, it looks extremely similar to the A-9 Vigilance, clearly a later generation version of it. It comes with a hyperdrive, shields, laser cannons, and specialized “marker missiles” that latch homing beacons onto a targeted ship. It was used as a tracking ship by the GA, meant to pursue enemy ships through hyperspace. This all comes from the Legacy Era Campaign Guide.
@notapairofjeans1076 Жыл бұрын
Hey Eck! Devils Advocate here. So certain elements of this fighter are definitely better than a regular tie. The biggest is the field of view. This ship would allow pilots to see what looks like more than 90 degrees more than a tie which in a dogfight could be extremely preferable. Also, the whole armor thing seems a bit silly to me. How many times have we seen a tie fighter survive a hit anyway? All this fighter really needs is a missile rack to give it some flexibility and it would be blatantly better than a tie fighter imo.
@mathildadeer Жыл бұрын
You can see more above and to the sides but nothing lower than directly in front of you
@revansecofreak394 Жыл бұрын
I like what you said. I’m kinda a fan as well. I’d say that there are factors that make it better. It’s def better than a standard tie. I’d say it’s better in surprise attacks than the interceptor but maybe not as good of a dog fighter. If I had a fleet, I’d probably employ some of these for atleast one specific role. And I’d look forward to seeing Kuat make their promised improved version.
@captin3149 Жыл бұрын
Field of view was addressed in another video where the pilots' helmets likely allowed them to see 'through' the TIE's sides, at least as a tactical display.
@hybrid_grizzly Жыл бұрын
@@mathildadeer Actually, your head sits pretty high in the cockpit, so you'd have 15-20 degrees downward visibility. Not amazing, but on par with real-world fighters. Additionally, the Tie has a large panel that blocks most downward visibility. Also upwards visibility is far more important in a dogfight, the ability to look up and see the target you're pulling around on and follow it all the way into your sights cannot be overstated
@danielboatright8887 Жыл бұрын
The turbolaser was something those essential guides did a few times, they also gave the Ewing a light turbolaser. Personally, I like the idea that where possible, both the new repulic and empire experimented with a starfighter with a turbolaser and decided it was too much of a headache to deal with en mass, even if the resulting craft was quite powerful.
@absalomdraconis Жыл бұрын
Yeah, anything armed with a turbolaser would have likely performed more like an attack craft, such as the B-wing, than a proper fighter like X-wings and most Ties.
@jayvhoncalma3458 Жыл бұрын
*A what?*
@sethb3090 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can see retrofitting something with a turbolaser as a strike variant, just don't expect it to dogfight.
@williammagoffin9324 Жыл бұрын
@@bkane573 and assuming your cannons don't jam. That was the big problem with them in WWII, in only a few planes (P-38, Bf 109) could the pilot cycle the cannon manually to unjam them if they malfunctioned; and they malfunctioned a lot. In planes like the Spitfire Mk IIs the wings flexed too much and caused the cannon's feed system to jam in combat (similar to the problems the early P-51s had with their .50 cals). The more powerful but bigger and more complex gun system doesn't always work in real world conditions.
@SethLunchquest Жыл бұрын
The gun layout on the A-9 struck me as being two things: a heavy laser cannon for hard targets, and a lighter laser cannon for dogfights. So instead of requiring torpedo bays, it just has a powerful energy weapon for strafing capital ships etc. A bit like certain WW2 fighter planes that featured a single large-caliber cannon flanked by machine guns.
@Colonel_Overkill Жыл бұрын
Basically a dedicated CAS craft. Kinda makes sense in that role. Wouldn't want to have this in the same postal code as a proper dogfight though.
@SethLunchquest Жыл бұрын
@@Colonel_Overkill Perhaps. But it also has the guns on that gimbal mounting, so combined with the targetting computer I imagine it can do a lot with just the pair of laser cannon. Hardware will only take you so far. I would bet that a good pilot in an A-9 could do well against a poor pilot in an E-wing or other high-end starfighter.
@Colonel_Overkill Жыл бұрын
@@SethLunchquest that may be true, many light, medium and heavy bombers have gun positions or turrets. Even in the lightest craft assuming you can dogfight perfectly may still mean nothing. If a craft with specialized gear is used for roles it isnt designed for it can achieve a victorious failure. Take a Y wing for example. You have an amazing pilot who get into a dogfight and downs a dozen TIE singlehandedly. Sounds impressive no? If in doing this the opportunity is ignored to drop a bomb or torpedo into a hangar or ship that is still a failure counting the dozen kills. Turrets and ths like are there to get rid of uncomfortable attention but if you are flying a strike craft they are defensive only. IIRC the TIE bomber had a pair of cannon identical to the fighter. Both can shoot down small craft but only one can threaten large craft. Its needlessly risking a valuable capability if a less specialized craft can do the job just as good.
@miqvPL Жыл бұрын
while it seems plausible it wouldn't make a lot of sense in universe considering how heavily shielded are capital ships. Yes, you can skim the surface under it's shields and do damage then, but with an unshielded fighter it's really a dead wish
@Colonel_Overkill Жыл бұрын
@@miqvPL I think the shit stain bombers in the lasr jedi make that perfectly clear. Personally I was thinking of a more distract and slash attack or atmospheric operations. A small number against a ship is a suicide dash, but honestly these dont seem like line of battle craft. I didn't really elaborate earlier but against smugglers, cartel warlords, insurrection planetside, situations like this is where I see these shining. A second line unit good enough to do the job. Kind of like the old addage "a bad tank is better than no tank". Especially if you enjoy air or space supremacy these would be perfect for cargo ship interdiction or low intensity operations. As unimpressive as that activity list sounds it actually has far more effect on a war than two battle lines reducing each other to component atoms. Cargo and trade interdiction ends wars far easier than bombardment, and you have all of the enemy facilities intact to use yourself as a happy bonus. Im aware actual war tactics have little place in universe but I can see a couple squadrons of these based near a jump point shutting down shipping completely and leaving the important ships unused, therefore fit and ready to assist if something too big for the strike craft comes out to play.
@PrudentMantis Жыл бұрын
At a guess, the things that later designs would incorporate would be whatever combination of 'soft' factors that made it both easy to learn to fly and with a high skill ceiling. So often you only get one of the two, if you even get either. Whether that's HUD design, avionics, MFD placement, advanced functions interfaces, whatever. It'd be something that doesn't show on a spec sheet, not the speed or the armour or the turning rate or whatever, but something that crews praised.
@adognamedbird Жыл бұрын
After my mom died when I was 7 my stepmom introduced me to Star Wars it bonded us together it has been the one thing that I can turn to when life sucks to take my mind off of it all. So thank you ECK!!!❤
@sundoga4961 Жыл бұрын
If you just take it as escribed in Dark Empire, its an excellent fighter. Or rather, an excellent interceptor. Really fast, reasonably maneuverable - and with turbolasers. Yes, you pooh-poohed the idea, but it makes PERFECT sense if you consider it a ship that NEVER dogfights. It sweeps in at extreme speed, starts firing well out of the range of whoever it is attacking, probably makes at least one one-hit kill on the enemy formation (because fighters can't take turbolaser hits), then sweeps through the enemy formation and accelerates away, not even trying to engage. Get well out of range, swing around, and do it again. Basically, the "Splash" tactic used by US fighters against A6M Zeroes in WWII. If you try and use it as a space superiority fighter, you'll get your head handed to you. Use it as intended and it's a terror.
@Sierra99 Жыл бұрын
That’s basically the definition of an interceptor right? This seems like it’d be great for swooping in to take out y-wings and such then leaving before anyone can dogfight them
@jaredthehawk3870 Жыл бұрын
The tactic you're referring to is called Boom and Zoom.
@sundoga4961 Жыл бұрын
@@jaredthehawk3870 I've heard a number of terms used, including that one. I think it varied between units and nationalities.
@brianwhedon8442 Жыл бұрын
"shoot & scoot" "hit & run" tactics
@shadekerensky3691 Жыл бұрын
Even better if used by the NR against TIE Bombers and their ilk, which are unshielded.
@vasyear Жыл бұрын
I always thought the TIE's were inspired by the Jedi ETA-2 Actis star fighters, the interceptor the most resembling the ETA-2 Actis when it was in full combat mode.
@DanBen07 Жыл бұрын
From reading the Canon books "Star Wars TIE Fighter owners workshop manual" Tie prototype page- It says "After the Imperial Navy itemized their requirements and estimated the budget for developing and manufacturing the new starfighter, Raith Sienar began designing a prototype. As previously noted, Sienar incorporated design aspects . from Kuat Systems Engineering's Alpha-3 Nimbus-class "V-wing" starfighter and Eta-2 Actis-class light Interceptor for the prototype Imperial twin ion engine starfighter. Working from Imperial directives, Sienar designed the initial prototype exclusively for space combat, and not for atmospheric flight capability. But when Sienar presented his designs to Navy officials, he surprised them with an alternate design for a slightly more expensive starfighter. The alternate design featured stronger pylons within bulked-up spars that connected the wings to the cockpit module, an increase to overall structural integrity that would allow the fighter to travel through atmospheres and also the ability to land on its wings. Impressed by Sienar's presentation, Navy officials authorized Sienar to construct prototypes for both proposed designs. After testing the prototypes, the Navy agreed that Sienar's alternate design was more practical, and that the additional expense would be a worthy investment."
@locarno24 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 exactly. The Eta Actis is all well and good if your pilots are precognitive and capable of enduring G-force way beyond mundane organics. For a bunch of conscript recruits.....less so.
@Earthstar_Review Жыл бұрын
I do like the unconventional approach of just bolting some naked engines to nacelle mounts straight from the factory. It's bold in not even hiding how little they expect the pilot to survive. No need to put plating on something you're not expecting to come back.
@jeffreycarman2185 Жыл бұрын
I’ve liked the look of the A-9 vigilance. I do wonder if it could be salvaged to be more than a heavy cannon on a space-worthy pod racer.
@TheBananamonger Жыл бұрын
Seems good for cheap "law enforcement" applications on shady outer rim worlds run by hutt cartels, honestly. If I was a crime lord looking for anti-rioter/protestor/peasant air-superiority on the cheap, I'd buy this. Otherwise, it looks shite.
@CFRF13 Жыл бұрын
First time I've ever heard of the A-9 referred to as a TIE series Starfighter.
@shilohlee4332 Жыл бұрын
Isn't TIE a brand owned by Sienar Systems?
@CFRF13 Жыл бұрын
@@shilohlee4332 I believe it is, hence my confusion at the title of the video since the A-9 is a Kuat design (actually it seems Kuat has several A-line starfighters including the Clone Wars era A-6 and a later A-10).
@DanBen07 Жыл бұрын
In Legends and Canon "Sienar incorporated design aspects from Kuat Systems Engineering......"
@beneficentgold9963 Жыл бұрын
When they were talking about elements they will use in their own fighters I think they meant the scrap metal they'll melt down to make into a better fighter
@granatmof Жыл бұрын
I recently started learning about different IRL military hardware. The superlight weight fighter sounds more like the f16 compared to its predecessors of the f14 and f15, as well as its backwards step of being design focused around dog fights, something that peer state airframe were moving away from.
@absalomdraconis Жыл бұрын
The F-16 could have been worse, the F-5 Tiger & relatives didn't have radar or missile capability because the exec overseeing it had similar views to the later "Fighter Mafia".
@jrggrop Жыл бұрын
So, the A9 was spearheaded by the Star Wars counterparts of the Reformers, but without people coming along later and fixing the design by adding necessary equipment (they didn't even want radar on the F-16)?
@GeroldGarthcia Жыл бұрын
There is a small niche of fighter aircraft in real world air forces that is just a pure speed interceptor. The Russian MIG-25 was designed for pure speed to be able to chase down American SR-71 spy planes. These planes don't need to dogfight, drop bombs, or really do much besides being really really fast. This thing is kinda similar. Maybe it could be used as a quick response planet based defense force. Something that can get up out of the atmosphere quickly, or maybe run down hit and fade attacks before they can jump away.
@Versudan Жыл бұрын
To go over all the things they would need to do to fix this: Fuselage: - Bring the cockpit forward so the pilot can actually see where they are going. - Reduce the size and length of the thruster pylons. The closer to the centre of mass they can bring it the better. - Make the shape more streamlined with a narrower front facing profile to make it harder to hit. Engines: - Add in a third engine right behind the craft's centre of mass. - Upgrade engine gimballing (or whatever equivalent Star Wars uses) to increase maneuverability. - Increase engine power and throughput (like the ability to divert all power to engines) Weapons: - Upgrade primary laser turrets to heavy lasers. - Add an underslung torpedo launcher with 2-4 rounds of ammo. Equipment: - Upgrade its reactor to something much bigger. - Add shield system. - Add hyperdrive. If all of these things were done, I could see this ship taking on a useful role as a surprise hit and run raider or pre-invasion scout ship. It won't be cheap if they did, but at least you would be getting something serviceable for your credits.
@TheWingland Жыл бұрын
Fleet battle between Grand admiral Thrawn vs. Ender Wiggin Each one has an equal sized fleet with equally capable subordinates, and since Ender is from a different universe each has equal understanding of the technology they’re using. They are in command of Star Wars vessels. Pick a famous fleet of your choosing I’d suggest death squadron
@sonicninja3434 Жыл бұрын
I could see a high speed anti Capitol Class fighter with turbo lasers specifically for targeting rebel ships to counter their hit and run tactics.
@shilohlee4332 Жыл бұрын
But aren't Turbolasers basically equivalent to Artillery Pieces? From what I remember of the opening shot of III.
@quox3987 Жыл бұрын
A craft of that style does exist, the T.I.E. experimental 1 “bizarro”. 2 cockpits attached to one wing, with one cockpit turned into a housing for a turbolaser.
@sonicninja3434 Жыл бұрын
Granted but it was slow but more high powered. I was thinking something STUPID FAST that could knock out engines on a fleeing Nebulon B or something. Think like a poor mans version of a gravity well generator, lol. If they aren't expecting it, then it starts costing the rebelion just 1 mid tier Capital ship for 1 squad of V9s then the Empire gets its moneys worth and prisoners. It also makes the rebelion wary of attacking what they think are "unprotected" imperial convoys that could be a trap...
@absalomdraconis Жыл бұрын
@@sonicninja3434 : Any turbolaser that could effectively be powered by a fighter craft would probably only be effective against proper capital ships in prolonged combat, better to leave that to proper bombers. Targeting Gallofreys, those light freighters (e.g. the Falcon), and things in between would be a more interesting use case, but you'd still want at least one faster-firing laser cannon to clear out opposing fighters first.
@sonicninja3434 Жыл бұрын
Im thinking more along the lines of having a powerful fast strike capability at cheap cost that has one main goal. Specialized for sure, but the empire wouldn't mind wasting 9 lives for 3000 people to interrogate and equipment to go over with forensics.....
@shadowslayer205 Жыл бұрын
For surprise attacks, I could see this ship being workable in an Imperial Escort Carrier, which itself is a fast and nimble pocket carrier designed for ambushes and spec ops. But at the same time, you could stock an IEC with almost any TIE Fighter [Especially the elite TIE Hunters they would often run with] and it would work just as well if not better, so the only way I could justify using Vigilances in an IEC is if there wasn't anything better availible.
@lightspeedvictory Жыл бұрын
#askeck How were the Seperatists able to get past Coruscant’s planetary shields when they attacked in Episode III? Lore ship Versus video request: Resurgent vs. Starhawk Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version) Keldabe vs. ISD II MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser EAWX: FOTR’s Mandator II portrayal vs. Subjugator Praetor vs. Subjugator EAWX: TR’s Mediator portrayal vs. Resurgent Starhawk vs. Bulwark MK III
@lifevest1 Жыл бұрын
The “Nexus Route” discussed in the Citadel arc of clone wars. Some how the lane leads to separatist homeworlds and coruscant. Palps eventually got his hands on it, I can imagine he gave it Dooku who gave it to Grevious.
@lightspeedvictory Жыл бұрын
@@lifevest1 not talking about how the Separatists got to coruscant, I’m asking how their ground assault force got past the planetary shields protecting the planet
@xp8969 Жыл бұрын
@@lightspeedvictory ummm, the force? 🤷♂️
@christopherg2347 Жыл бұрын
@@lightspeedvictory Prepared Sabotage of the Shield? The planet had no 360° shield, because no Planet in canon had any?
@DanBen07 Жыл бұрын
(I could be remembering wrong. Need to be verified but what i remember reading since the movie came out. Can't remember the exact source materials) Once that the CIS came in close on top of the planet and then the planetary shield was activated that's why the didn't leave and stayed as long as it did in the film because the shield was in place. So my taking of it is was that the Shield was around the planet and some of the space they came in Above the planet then the shield activated they were in the shielded area so they were able to go to the surface of the planet. The main thing I remember reading was the Planetary shield blocked at the exit of the CIS that's why thay didn't just leave with the Chancellor.
@bubbasbigblast8563 Жыл бұрын
The design elements due to be incorporated were probably the power shunting from the various generators: the ability to quickly and easily divert power is a strong positive, as would eventually be seen in Star Wars Squadrons.
@nicktechnubyte1184 Жыл бұрын
Someone hasn't heard of the Q-wing! 😄
@felps_4500 Жыл бұрын
Not a TIE or an Imperial Vessel, but yeah it does look dumb af
@BensBrickDesigns Жыл бұрын
I just like the way it looks. I was such a fan of the Dark Empire artwork that I think I just liked the look. I had no knowledge of the quality of the craft.
@wolfsigma Жыл бұрын
I have always thought an advancement on the A-wing would be a centrally located trio of lasers and external missiles packs on the wings that could be jettisoned once empty. So in such a case the A-9's cannon mount would be useful info. Of course the sequel trilogy DID come out with a new A-wing. It had a longer nose. Peak design!
@absalomdraconis Жыл бұрын
It was also skinnier, made me think that it was a light-fighter variant.
@hybrid_grizzly Жыл бұрын
Didn't realize that and just looked it up. Kinda bad tbh, less downward visibility and the guns are further out meaning worse convergence. I guess it could be worth it depending on what the improvements are though
@BronyHunter Жыл бұрын
Hey Ecks. Video idea question: do you think that if, somehow, a Star Trek exploration ship would make it into the Star Wars Galaxy, it would have success in charting the unknown regions since it isn’t reliant on Hyperspace lanes?
@mechwar31 Жыл бұрын
Partial quote from Joseph Reinemann a Sci-Fi writer and Star Trek fan. Excerpt from response to question: What would happen if a ship were to ram a planet at warp or transwarp speed? "... The way that warp drive works, the ship never actually exceeds the speed of light. It merely simulates it by warping space around itself and forcing a small pocket of normal space containing the ship into what's known as subspace. By doing so it can still observe its surroundings, which most warp drives wouldn't be able to do, and reintegrate with normal space by cutting power to the warp nacelles and essentially letting subspace “push” the ship's little normal space bubble back into place. The thing is, the warp field is subject to a lot of different forms of interference. Mostly other warp fields. When these get disrupted, more often than not the bubble will implode, vaporizing everything inside, or distort and form a localized (and more often than not lethal) wormhole that catapults the ship off on a random direction at high speeds (though generally not very far.) Planets, stars, and other celestial bodies naturally warp space with their gravitational fields. ..." Based on Reinemann's write up. I would say that the constantly shifting gravitational fields and spatial disruptions of the unknown regions could cause warp travel to range from unreliable to lethal. Though I would still be interested in hearing ecks opinion. This comment has been edited, because I made a mistake.
@ajclements4627 Жыл бұрын
@@mechwar31 Which novel did he write?
@jackpfefferkorn3734 Жыл бұрын
Star Trek Warp travel is also much, much slower than hyperspace travel. Yes, there are special circumstances where Star Trek ships travel at much faster speeds, but standard warp is nothing compared to hyperspace. The U.S.S. Voyager, one of the fastest ships of its time, would have taken 70 years to get back from the far side of the galaxy. But we see Star Wars ships go back and forth across the whole galaxy in hours to days in hyperspace. Factor in that an exploration voyage would need to cover a lot more area than just a point-to-point journey, and you would have a single Star Trek ship taking many human lifetimes to map the unknown regions.
@mechwar31 Жыл бұрын
@@ajclements4627 did a quick look around, and yep I made a mistake there. I've known Joseph Reinemann as an author from a few other science fiction books, and I have seen some articles he has written dissecting, critiquing or reviewing Star Trek scenes or other works, but he has not written any Star Trek novels. I got that twisted in my head somehow. Sorry about that.
@mechwar31 Жыл бұрын
@@jackpfefferkorn3734 I don't think Mountain_Mann is looking at warp travel as a expedient alternative to hyperspace. The problem with mapping or even traveling through the unknown regions is that the hyperlanes are constantly shifting, so without a force sensitive navigator, it's impossible to go any great distance in the unknown regions in hyperspace. If I am understanding his thought process correctly, Warp travel might be a viable alternative to hyperspace because warp is not reliant upon hyperlanes.
@IncredibleMD Жыл бұрын
So, basically, later authors decided that the Empire can't have a good ship because it's like a TIE and EU writers decided that TIEs have to suck?
@absalomdraconis Жыл бұрын
Pretty much. The EU had lots of this stuff, just like it assumed that stormtroopers were incompetent because they had a less than 100% hit ratio.
@sethb3090 Жыл бұрын
If it had looked cool, it probably would have been better treated, just like the cooler-looking ties
@SudrianTales Жыл бұрын
Thr authors never want to do anything but want the *Bullshitium* fighter that is the X Wing
@boobah5643 Жыл бұрын
Re: Heavier starfighter weapons The go-to analogy is, of course, back to WWII fighters. It's worth noting that despite the US's noted preference for machineguns (in this analogy, these'd be the normal laser cannon) every air force fielded interceptors with a mix of cannon (automatic or otherwise) as well. The A6M Zero had a 20mm autocannon as its main weapon, supported only by a pair of ~.30" machineguns compared to most US fighters mounting four to eight .50" machineguns. Sure, you can't spray the sky and hope for a hit with a cannon, but you won't be very effective with a faster firing weapon, either. Point is, the heavier weapon literally blew apart what it hit. And the Zero is an obvious comparison here, aside from the A-9's short legs. It was a flimsy, maneuverable fighter built on the cheap... but in the hands of a skilled pilot could tear through fighters that were, on paper, it's equal or even superior. Then again, the reason the Zero was cheap was because Japan was still working on that whole industrialization thing coming off centuries of isolation (IIRC, the plant that built the plane had to use draft animals to pull the newly built planes to ship them;) the A-9 could be devastating if you had a group with lots of manpower and training but little money to buy spaceframes with. Anyone else would figure their money was better spent on a more capable fighter.
@elisekehle8520 Жыл бұрын
Do you think a turbolaser fighter could be a niche role, if we do take its weaponry as written in the sourcebook? Perhaps a high speed standoff craft for poking corvettes and pickets?
@jacobvardy Жыл бұрын
That makes sense. If it was designed as a specialist craft, for persuit or flanking. With speed and heavy guns to take out opposition escorts.
@Linkman95 Жыл бұрын
I'd imagine you'd want to strap a turbolaser to a small gunship like an E-Wing, it'd need to be able to take a hit.
@philtkaswahl2124 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, the A-9 still has better visibility for the pilot than a TIE because its cockpit layout *isn't* a window on a single side blinkered by huge panels.
@thebananaclub Жыл бұрын
This ship reminds me as a quick yet vulnerable a10 warthog. It's use case should be air to ground and that's basically it.
@see317 Жыл бұрын
Aside from the letter A, what part of this reminds you of an A-10?
@thebananaclub Жыл бұрын
@@see317 I'm not looking about the looks of anything. I'm talking about how the A10 is used and how this starfighter could be used in universe.
@see317 Жыл бұрын
@@thebananaclub I get that, I wasn't referring to appearance either (though the cylinder engines and a central gun might be common design notes). But the use case for the two are completely different. The A-10 is designed as a slow moving, low altitude ground support and anti-armor plane capable of taking a beating and coming around to dish out 10x the Brrrt before returning to base or lingering over the engagement zone to deploy further Brrrt as requested. The A-9 Vigilance is a high speed interceptor that dies to a stiff breeze or a near miss with a hand gun. While it would be possible to use it in a similar manner to the A10 with the moveable gun, it wouldn't be able to do so effectively. If it slows down to maintain fire on a hard target, it becomes an easy mark itself because it can't take a hit. If it maintains speed to be hard to hit, it's only going to have a second or two on target, and most of that at long range, with the ideal engagement range flashing by in an instant before the thing has to loop around again for a second pass. Which, with it's speed is likely going to be at higher altitudes than are advisable if the target has any AA capability. It would also likely require a big loop potentially taking them out of the engagement. I think if we wanted to make an in-universe equivalent of the A10, I'd start with a TIE Bomber hull, empty the secondary hull of it's grab bag of warheads and replace that with as big a turbo laser as possible (or a converging beam lance like the B-wing prototype from Rebels), then stuff either a big generator or a massive bank of capacitors to power the weapon. This gives it a hardier hull to take some hits, lower speed allowing it to linger over a battlefield and stay closer to the ground troops it's supporting and keeping the targeting system from the Bomber allows it to deploy the main weapon on precision strikes against ground targets or capital ship hull emplacements. It's not perfect, but I think it's be better for the purpose than the A9.
@thebananaclub Жыл бұрын
@@see317 it's still a legitimate air to ground attack craft. Like he said in the video, it has tons of straight line speed. This gives it a chance to hit targets and bug out. Plus it has a gun that could shoot perpendicular to the starship so they won't have to dive bomb to stay on target. Per my original comment, it is a quick and weak A10 that should only have air to ground duties or maybe another example would be a Japanese zero (fast, weak, and agile) but the zero was actually competitive with aircraft of it's time. That's why the A10 is the best example for something in our time.
@hunterkiller1440 Жыл бұрын
"What's that? It's hideous!" - Lord Farquaad
@scelonferdi Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good interceptor in the actual IRL interceptor role: shooting down bombers. In Star Wars there's usually no climb speed (space) but this thing seems great for a mission that consists only of catching up to bombers asap and then killing them.
@lordzox5926 Жыл бұрын
space ships, space battles, and more specifcially, dogfights in space, are what got me most into star wars next to lightsabers. I love learning about the ships in star wars honestly. the recent videos have been very interesting lately for sure.
@The_CGA Жыл бұрын
It’s called an “interceptor” Which suggests it’s meant to have a role like IRL interceptors, scrambling to meet enemy bombers before they drop on their targets. Since bombers (IRL, pre-stealth Cold War and earlier) don’t have to maneuver, their wing geometry and multiple engines can carry them faster and higher than fighters. So “interceptors” originate from a specifically bomber-killing role IRL. Through the Cold War this varied to interceptors being look-down radar specialists, able to cruise at high altitudes and lock on to enemy planes from a commanding viewpoint. All this material makes it seem like the various authors and artists coming later might not have had an awareness of the IRL reference
@Rose_Butterfly98 Жыл бұрын
It's actually a lot like real life interceptors, very high top speed and powerful weaponary but terrible manouvreability. Its description says it's a territorial defence interceptor, with the y-wing's defence turrets on the top, being able to fire directly downwards means you can fly upside down under them and start blasting with very little risk. Then speed away before they can hit you. Come back round after and repeat on the way back to the ship if they're not dead yet. But against a fighter, it's gonna die real quick, you might be able to outrun laser bolts because they'll dissipate but missiles have the range and speed to hit the A9. It also probably won't work against anything with proper all round turrets and a good enough sensor array. But tie bombers and y-wings don't have those.
@ExplosiveFloofBall Жыл бұрын
considering the visual similarities between the A-9 and the E-wing I'd guess that's where the elements the NR engineers liked went
@gavinboyer4634 Жыл бұрын
Hey Eck, in numerous videos you mention ships made by Kuat (koowat? kue-ott?) shipyards. Do you already have a video on these shipyards? If not, could you consider making one? (I'm new to the expanded lore.)
@UnintentionalSubmarine Жыл бұрын
Koo-aht
@sethb3090 Жыл бұрын
Seconded, I already know lots about them but it's a super cool set piece that deserves some attention.
@NXPhoenix3 Жыл бұрын
My guess for the features incorporated into future New Republic starfighters was always some features of the engine design itself and the literal flexibility of the laser cannon mount. Being able to fire off-axis or even in a fully unexpected direction could have some distinct tactical benefits. Rapid, hull-hugging attacks could hypothetically be easier to execute safely if the pilot could fly straight across the hull without needing to angle to get weapons into arc--just fly over as close as possible and possibly even under the minimum angle the defensive turrets could depress to.
@stevenclark2188 Жыл бұрын
Maybe there are small tricks in how it was built that can be applied to making other ships more reliable or more manufacturable. Not all technology is in monolithic systems and capabilities, some of it is things like stamped recievers.
@Omega_1111 Жыл бұрын
I feel like if we go off of that one source book that says they have heavy turbolasers they made sense as an *actual* interceptor Very fast very hard hitting fighter made to kill or incapacitate slower larger targets. Enemy capitol ship just exited hyperspace? Launch a dozen squadrons of these things to pummel it with the fire power of an entire fleet of star destroyers before it can close to engagement range. Enemy transports trying to run? They won't get very far with this thing chasing them Enemy ship trying to escape? Blow its engines out with precise hard hitting firepower
@SecohdYue Жыл бұрын
The engines sounds pretty good, maybe try to do experimental tie fighters with them and see what happend
@charlesweinert4116 Жыл бұрын
The change in quality after the sourcebook sounds like the same thing that happened to the E Wing. Dark Empire was still pretty early EU and the new fighters were meant to replace the classics. They were unpopular because the designs leave something to be desired and people just like the iconic ships. So, later, Borge the Vigilance and the E-Wing were retconned as having significant design issues necessitating the return of the classic fighters.
@Rokos_Basilisk Жыл бұрын
Ya know, a cool strategey for the fighter would be to jump a few carriers on either side of an enemy fleet. The figters would launch, speed through the enemy fleet while firing before landing in the carriers on the opposite side. Finally the carriers would hyperdrive away. Because ther fighter is so cheep, you could probably bring hundreds. And because of their speed the whole manuver might only take a few minutes. Is that a good idea? Eck?
@anthonyheman4621 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a cool move to pull off once in a story. I am reminded of the first halo book (I think) where they pulled off a kill on two covenant capital ships by detonating a nuke behind them, doing a 180 and firing the rail gun times with the detonation or some such. If they were human piloted I don't think you could pull off that maneuver more than once if the attrition was serious.
@darklordofsword Жыл бұрын
What I find funny is that the game Jedi Starfighter features the Saboath Fighter, which is basically just an A9 with more guns and better shields.
@CidVeldoril Жыл бұрын
Smart imperial engineer: "Okay, guys, I have an idea about how to dunk on the Rebels." Emps: "Uh huh?" SIE: "Vulture Droids. Lots of 'em!"
@twistedyogert Жыл бұрын
Kinda reminds me of the Me-163 Komet. The Komet was rocket-powered and could climb to 34,000 in 3 minutes 45 seconds to intercept bomber formations and pepper them with 20 and 30mm shells. However there were some problems. 1: To save weight, the landing gear would be dropped after takeoff. The only landing gear was an extendable skid. It would be safe to say that landings would be extremely hard on both the pilot and the airframe itself. 2: The propellants for the rocket engine were extremely toxic and corrosive, there was an instance where a pilot was dissolved when a fuel line ruptured during a crash. 3: The fueling procedure was dangerous. The rocket engine used two propellants called "T-Stoff" and "C-Stoff". On their own they were non-flammable but when mixed together they violently exploded. If both were accidentally mixed together outside the combustion chamber then the unfortunate ground crewman would simply wind up as a fine red mist. 4: Powered flight only lasted 7 1/2 minutes. After that the flyer was simply a glider and was easy picking for any fighters.
@ThrawnFett123 Жыл бұрын
My thought on the Vigilance as a series, A-9, then the (plot armor we fixed everything!) A-10 was always "we can't SAY it's a government contract NOT for pirates... BUT..." it is meant for sudden surprise attacks but needs a carrier... like a disguised freighter. Great in a straight line or surprise cone... like it was launched by a disguised freighter or something? I think it was meant to be a special operations fighter, why they'd dump money into its development. And the closest public sector to SPECOPS? Pirates. In starwars, seldom a difference, ask omega squad in Triple Zero
@princecharon Жыл бұрын
I sort of wonder if the person mentioning the fighter being armed with two turbolasers thought that that's what the two outboard engine pods were. Pretty sure that was what I thought when the Dark Empire Sourcebook came out (but it's been a long time since then).
@evanchase9585 Жыл бұрын
The best use I can imagine for this thing is planetary defense on a budget. If you're never leaving a system, the lack of hyperdrive becomes meaningless. And while the heavy lasers make for poor dogfighting, the biggest threat to a planetary invasion is the capital ships, which this could make good hit-and-run strikes against. Of course, this could be done much better by dedicated bombers with fighter escort, but at least it's something.
@grisom5863 Жыл бұрын
I think these are perfect for planetary defense, militias, and private security/mercenaries. These are entities that don't have larger budgets compared to larger organizations so they need to be mindful of acquiring and maintenance cost. Plus most of them really only deal with pirates and criminals or the occasional planetary civil/interplanetary conflicts. They might not need fighters that are more capable than the task at hand.
@BlonderthanIlook Жыл бұрын
I literally made a Hank Hill disgust gasp when I saw the thumbnail.
@ImperativeGames Жыл бұрын
Tbh the only conclusion is that the Empire (and its ship designs) is written in a way so it will lose constantly, in every possible engagement.
@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Жыл бұрын
The Empire never did fully learn to mass produce the TIE Avenger and Defender what could outclass everything the New Republic ever made.
@drahcir8402 Жыл бұрын
This is just another case of something being introduced in a Star Wars book/comic and being nerfed in every other showing. The main one everyone knows being the Hapans.
@jamesricker3997 Жыл бұрын
The TIE Fighter was misused it was never intended to be a spacefighter It was intended to be the point defense system for an Imperial Star Destroyer
@TKnightcrawler Жыл бұрын
You know what...? I think this thing would be a blast to fly! It's pretty small, probably has great acceleration, and that laser canon is enticing. I wouldn't downplay the potential of that laser cannon; sustained fire from laser cannons can exceed the total damage potential of proton torpedoes. I don't believe a laser cannon set up like that would ONLY be able to fire straight down. I think it's more likely that it was gimbaled and could fire in a large forward cone, and ALSO a larger firing range downward. This would mean it doesn't need to approach its target head-on to fire, giving it more evasion in an initial pass. This gimbaled laser canon could also partially make up for its inferior maneuverability. However, controlling a gimbaled gun simultaneously with piloting a ship would be quite challenging. That's why I want to fly it! On that very matter, I discovered something interesting a few months ago: the earliest sources covering the A-Wing did NOT grant it any kind of missile launcher, but DID grant it gimbaled laser cannons. "A Guide to the Star Wars Universe," the WEG's "The Star Wars Sourcebook," and "The Farlander Papers" which came packaged with Star Wars: X-Wing all list it this way. I think it's only starting with the actual Star Wars: X-Wing *game* that the gimbaled laser cannons are removed and concussion missile launchers are added. I think Totally Games probably strongly considered implementing the A-Wing as originally described, but was unable to do so for technical reasons, or because there were no commercial joysticks at the time that would allow such a thing. Maybe they thought controlling it with the keyboard would suffice, but it never panned out. Anyway, from that moment on, the A-Wing lore changed. Later sources claimed that Incom made a New Republic version of the A-Wing that supported gimbaled laser cannons, in contrast to earlier models. My headcanonization is as follows: "Star Wars: X-Wing," "The Farlander Papers," and "The Star Wars Sourcebook" indicate that the A-Wing was designed by Jan Dodonna and Walex Blissex, and manufactured in small numbers by Rebel engineers. Other sources claim early A-Wings were made by hand out of whatever materials were available, and this seems to jive with the previous fact. I believe all these original A-Wings were built with gimbaled laser cannons and no missile launchers, as the early - primarily BBY - sources claim. Then the Rebellion got the capacity to manufacture A-Wings en masse, but couldn't do so at the previous specifications. Perhaps the amount of downtime repairing the laser gimbals was too much, or perhaps some parts did not exist in large quantities. However, these new A-Wings were able to add concussion missile launchers instead. When Incom took over production during the New Republic era, they made A-Wings that had the best of both worlds, and included more reliable gimbal-mounted laser cannons as well as the standard concussion missile launchers. I'm sure you can see the relation here: both are fast interceptors designed with gimbaled laser cannons. The difference is the A-9 had this as a standard feature, on more powerful cannons. A squadron of these flying over a Mon Calamari Cruiser could cause serious havoc, and they'd be able to evade and attack effectively at the same time. I also wouldn't discount this laser cannon's accuracy against starfighters out of hand, since we have no reason to believe that they are inaccurate. Of course, the A-Wing has better defenses, maneuverability, and concussion missile launchers. By this time, they've also likely regained their own gimbaled lasers, even if they're less powerful.
@rassicr Жыл бұрын
I love the sass in your title. That's my kind of energy.
@thearisen7301 Жыл бұрын
Boom & Zoom fighter tactics are a real life thing which would be the A-9's bread and butter which mean maneuverability isn't such a big deal. Obviously not against capital ships but against slower fighters and bombers. It's an interceptor, so it's role is to intercept enemy fighters and bombers as quickly as possible. It's not an offense geared fighter but a defensive one. When you detect Y-Wings or B-Wings the A-9 intercepts them as far away from your base as possible to support patrolling fighters which will be the first to engage. TBH, I would argue the Empire doesn't have a true fighter craft and tries to force interceptors into the role.
@jaroftar Жыл бұрын
"I am so specialized I cannot be defeated!" *is so specialized and simplified it turns useless* Sad for the A-10 Thunderb- Vigilance
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Жыл бұрын
The engines and the ability to shoot straight down seem the most interesting features.
@patrickstewart3446 Жыл бұрын
It seems that the A-9 would more useful as a police vessel rather than a frontline fighter. About the only military use for something like this is as an advanced trainer.
@grisom5863 Жыл бұрын
Could make for a good planetary defense/private protection fighter.
@eiffelium Жыл бұрын
The dark empire seems to have eccentric engineers, frustrated with the pervasiveness of traditional Sienar designs, taking advantage of the new doctrine of the resurrected emperor and his theoretically unlimited resources to mass-produce their original designs which previously remained at the prototype state It gives the dark empire a very unique style, while later the imperial remnants will return to classic designs
@locarno24 Жыл бұрын
The specific engine design might have been reused. It was a very powerful, efficient sublight engine that fitted in a nice cylindrical housing. 4 of them might make a nice alternative engine for a new generation x-wing.
@Texansfan254Jeff Жыл бұрын
Dolores from Imperial HR approves of near retirement pilots flying in A-9 Vigilance fightercraft.
@MrNoscopeJones Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that there are several crappy or not particularly viable military vehicles and weapons and star wars. Given the number of tanks and guns and planes that have been produced by a real world militaries that are known to have horrible problems and are hated by their crews, it makes the universe feel more realistic to know that crappy, designed by committee and built by the lowest bidder weapon systems exist no matter where in the universe you go
@MandoWookie Жыл бұрын
It strikes me as an ultra cheap, easy to fly fighter, that Kuat tried to upsell by claiming it was for performance reasons not production costs. In the (Legends) lore, the TIE is actually very hard to make, even though it is simple in theory, because it requires a high degree of manufacturing precision. Only the Empire has the resources to make something like it and treat it as disposable. And even they can only afford it due to the huge numbers they buy. And it apparently is very difficult to fly at a high level, and train on. So a more restricted Empire, possible without access to Sienars plants, might find an easy to fly, cheap fighter of more conventional construction advantageous, even if it was a downgrade from the TIE.
@UnintentionalSubmarine Жыл бұрын
I will hold that the A9 wasn't as bad as the T-wing. Incidentally another A-wing competitor.
@gmitchellfamily Жыл бұрын
This fighter has all the hallmarks of a product imagined, pushed, designed, and released by a marketing department.
@RJALEXANDER777 Жыл бұрын
I'd say whichever Kuat con-man came up with this had a pretty good scam going on. Made some quick and easy credits out of some desperate Imperial holdouts. As for how to use these near hunks of junk? Well, if they were packing heavy laser cannons, they could at least threaten gunships or light escorts. So if you could trade a squadron of A9's for something like a cargo hauler, a corvette or a troop transport than that's a pretty good deal. But so many better options.
@cjp1599 Жыл бұрын
I would love a deep dive on the different types of cannons and what vessels had them.
@kabob0077 Жыл бұрын
2:34 If a TIE is made of Cardboard then this is made of tissue paper.
@TheKingofbrooklin Жыл бұрын
The stats show that this is supposed to be an interceptor which charges from a higher attitute at its enemies and then regains that height instead of engaging in dogfights. In WW2 german pilots completely avoided dogfights and used this tactic.
@codyholley Жыл бұрын
Except in space that's useless
@TheKingofbrooklin Жыл бұрын
@@codyholley It does work in space and even if not. Dogfights in Star Wars behave like flying in air.
@codyholley Жыл бұрын
@@TheKingofbrooklin it is useless if it can't out maneuver it's opponent
@TheKingofbrooklin Жыл бұрын
@@codyholley Like I said it doesnt have to engage in maneuvers. It has to charge from above and then regain a higher attitude with its superior speed.
@alexandernelson3273 Жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to see your take on its contemporary, and MUCH less conventional - contemporary in Imperial service, if there's enough material to do a feature on the Shadow Droid (or more generally the Dark Empire special projects which, outside of the superweapons, haven't got much of a spotlight).
@robertb7293 Жыл бұрын
"Sir. Some of the TIEs materials are easily available. The fuel source is literally dirt cheap." "Bah. Use cheap substitutes!" "But Sir. The life support has no components at all." ... "Use CHEAPER substitutes!"
@Mikey-xz4vn Жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of a fighter armed with turbolasers - kind of like WW2 fighters that were armed with cannons (P-39 Aircobra, Yak-9, or variants of the BF-109 and A6M 'Zero' fighters)
@midgetydeath Жыл бұрын
The Empire went from fielding Zeros to zeros.
@imadequate3376 Жыл бұрын
Gotta give the I-7 Howlrunner mention now since we're on the subject of 160,000 credit price range star fighters.
@prince_jayleon179 Жыл бұрын
Day 36 of asking for Titanfall vs halo matchup
@jiyuhong5853 Жыл бұрын
A-9 Vigilance interceptors. Speedy little things." "Weak hulls. I used to crack 'em with my teeth and suck out the meat inside."
@kiaser21 Жыл бұрын
It would be quite useful in numbers, but that would also require some type of mega-carrier. If it was very easy to learn to pilot it, as is stated, you could have mega-carriers jump on with a complement of 100+ unit squadrons that launch all at once. This effectively becomes a "bombing squadron" with high likeliness of survivability (due to numbers and speed), that can lay down near turbolaser firepower in the thousands of shots per second. Low manufacturing costs, easy trainability, low cost of rearming, extremely condensed launch bay storage... That's devastating. Used in this manner, it's just like having reusable and nimble warheads in the hundreds that have sentient intelligence behind it and able to stay on the battlefield to continually pick more targets. Even capital ships couldn't survive a quick wave of these things.
@nathanfarra6371 Жыл бұрын
When talking about maneuverability, it made me wonder, do Star Wars ships have inertial dampers? This is an extremely important technology. I don't think I've ever heard it discussed.
@jenniferstewarts4851 Жыл бұрын
Turbo lasers are a strange "descriptor" The falcon for example had 2 turrets each with 4 quad linked turbo lasers. Now while we "always hear" them say its just laser cannons, when talking about how to tell the difference between lasers and turbo lasers apart... in star wars... "turbo lasers have recoil, if you see the barrels retract after firing, or recoiling, then its a turbo lasers." it was the on screen "descriptor" to tell the difference. It was source material writers that changed things later. Essentially the falcons guns were based on a 40mm bofors design.
@grimms1916 Жыл бұрын
Okay, but the comments made at 4:08 did make me imagine a scenario where a like, underfunded rebel cell on a scapping or shipbreaking planet harvests a bunch of turbo lasers that the strap onto ugly fighters that have been stripped down of everything but their engines and the turbolasers. Imagine like, 10 squadrons of starfighters like that doing a suicide run on the ISD that tends the planet. Might make for a cool, if short martyrdom story
@zhongjie Жыл бұрын
I would say it would work quite well against soft ground targets. As soon as you mentioned that the turbolaser can be pointed down it's purpose is quite clearly as a pseudo bomber.
@prion42 Жыл бұрын
KSE/KDY had access to a number of effective starfighter designs. If they really wanted to create a space superiority fighter to compete with the TIE/LN/IN, they had the stuff. This could be a case where the project got corrupted from its original intent during a management transition or something. So is this purely Legends so far,? because maybe it can just be ignored.
@KuDastardly Жыл бұрын
The only possible scenario I can see deploying these A-9 Vigilance is in an ambush setup, most likely in nebula environments where sensors are highly compromised, or in heavily dense asteroid fields. The idea would be to take advantage of the A-9's profile while they barrage an unsuspecting target with those long ranged turbolasers. And those targets would likely be warships, maybe not those large ISDs, but smaller ones.
@martinbaxter4783 Жыл бұрын
‘From Kuat Drive Yards, who brought you the Death Star I & II!’
@watcherzero5256 Жыл бұрын
As I remember it the point of the starfighter was it was cheap and would bulk out the fleet, this was a period where the New Republic was still struggling to go from a primarily resistance navy with high performance but expensive ships to a galactic navy with the mass to patrol the whole galaxy and doing it on a shoestring budget as they didnt have anywhere near the Empires defence spending, they were relying more and more on captured TIE fighters and ISD's to fill out their fleets but they were no longer in production and hostilities with the Empire and opportunity to acquire more in combat were dying down.
@Falchion1984 Жыл бұрын
The five TIE Experimentals? The Bizzaro and its siblings? How about a breakdown of all of them to determine which was stupidest and which was least stupid? For my part, I think the least stupid was the TIE Warhead.
@harryjohnson9215 Жыл бұрын
I expected star wars to have fighter similar to the spitfire with a pair of Canons and 4 quick fireing guns When you said it had capital grade guns i was hoping this was the it due to the title