it's the only way women won't run away at the sight of him

I'm not convinced they don't just pay these women to come on.

@@Faucetofstone I am like 89% sure they are being offered money off the street, yes.

Dnt be misandristic, u just cant handle the opinion of a strong independent man.

@@vortexlight8387 lol

tshirt quote idea tbh

that just sounds like the normal way to be alive, to be honest.

It really do be like that

i relate to this quote more than anything

@@manboy4720 yes normal for people who need therapy or counselling

there was no analysis here, they made straw man arguments for ~20mins from a clip and not the actual podcast.

@@monstercameron yeah these commenters watching the video are very closed minded and don't add any value. Like many here in the comments. I took time to watch these guys who are apparently "misogynistic" to understand why they came to certain conclusions.

Boys who take advice from that incel podcast, will be a danger to all women in the near but distant future. Sorry ladies.

🤣🤣

so true!

Men worry about getting assaulted on the way home. It happens more frequently to men in fact

@thrilla72 That is blatantly untrue. Men are statistically more likely to be victims of all violent crimes EXCEPT sexual assault and rape. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but they aren't the majority.

@@unclewiley1986 My goodness, it's the same underhanded debate tactics. The comment mentioned fear of being attacked walking around at night. It was not about specifically sa and rape. Thankfully those crimes have lower rates of incidence. Would be wonderful if it never happened. Great strides have been made but unless we enter the world of minority report, how do we stop a few horrible people ruining things.

@thrilla72 You deleted your comment, but I was still able to see it. I'm guessing it was deleted bc you realized OP specifically said 'assaulted' and not 'attacked'. I'm not responding to call you out or anything but to let people know that may have been why you posted your original comment.

@@thrilla72 Guys actually dont worry about it and thats why it happens more frequently to them. Guys are much more likely to put themselves in openly dangerous situations bc they feel invincible. More guys join gangs, commit crimes, join the military, walk alone at night with no protection, partake in dangerous activities like drugs and daredevil stuff...etc. GirIs rarely ever choose to do any of these things (because from a young age girIs are taught that if they get assauIted then its their own fauIt for not being carefuI). Guys get hurt because they make dangerous choices, but most of the time when girIs get hurt its specificaIIy BECAUSE they are girIs. Their gender makes them the target. For proof, look at % of maIe and femaIe active duty members who get assauIted. I say % bc femaIes are less likely to choose to go to the military, so guys die and get assauIted in larger numbers. But if you look at % (compare the % of femaIe active duty members who get assauIted vs maIes who get assauIted) you see that girIs are targeted more. Same thing with gang vioIence, vioIence against the homeIess, vioIence against drug users...etc. Its still bad that guys experience this vioIence, hut at the very Ieast since the reason they experience it isnt inextricably tied to ab immutable characteristic like gender, they have some agency over their safety.

the lock and key, bank robbing, horses in a stable. they all make absolutely no sense and compare women to objects or animals because they don’t view women as human.

@@maddierose633 INAITLY heterosexual men and lesbians view women they are sexually attracted to as objects. It is natural.

Misandry is glorified and normalized to the point where it goes unnoticed. Telling the truth to women or about women does not mean you hate wome

@@vortexlight8387 hopefully they stay independent because that means they're staying far away from any poor woman unfortunate enough to cross their path. Same goes for you, hopefully you're so independent that you just leave women alone so you don't make them uncomfortable

Yes, it absolutely makes sense. You just do not want to understand it because it's against your values. A woman's chastity makes her more valuable to men (whether you want to accept that or not), therefore if she's easy to fuck, fewer men will want her for a relationship. A guy is valued for status and looks, and social proof is a way to amplify your attractiveness. A guy that has had attractive girlfriends or can sleep with attractive women can use that as social proof, and other women will automatically find him more attractive if they notice that. While a virgin will have no social proof and considered less attractive. You see? It's completely flipped for both genders.

they ARE?!?!? no longer an alpha male :/

I doubt they realize women have brains

no. no they do not

At their core these guys do not believe women are people.

@@Faucetofstone yeah since you dont belive men are people too

@@vortexlight8387 so I can't have a pretty man as a sugar baby? 😭

@@vortexlight8387 Maybe if you helped fix the wage gap between men and woman guys would have more of a selection of sugar mommy's to chose from did you think about that?😈

Your are not obligated to fulfill that expectation. It is a personal choice and a lot of women put so much time, money and effort into thier looks cause that the only thing that have to offer to society. Now let's not get started on what men are expected to do.

@@kayladean597 no such thing as gender wage gap. How about equality in work forces like construction, plumbing, firefighting ie all the dirty jobs that require society to function

@@kayladean597 Please, you wouldn't like a younger man with 0 money who would rely entirely on you. You're just creating a generation of men that no woman would merry.

My parents definitely made me think that cishet sex is just women paying attention to men. 💅

Completely missed the point

@@kidCashOnline hol up do you AGREE with these egotistical idiots LOL

Both of his statements are stereotypical.

"attention is to women what sex is to men" No im pretty sure sex is to women what sex is to men 😭 like yea there are many ways in which we are different, which can be societal or biological, but we're not THAT different. These ppl always make it sound like men and women are two whole different animals. Like no 🤨

not men, nerds, forever scarred cause no one dated them growing up.

@@r.walker7986 facts lol

No one dated me growing up and I don’t have a seething hatred of woman lmao, I think you are generally kinda right tho

The brain of a man is observed to view women as objects who he doesn’t have a close relationship to like family. It’s up to a women value themselves because at basic level he just sees meat jiggling at him. Some men can resist that view of women but that’s not the default.

@@randomlygeneratedname7171 Why are you saying this as if it is something to be proud of or accepted. This is a disgusting to say the very least... Men just keep proving how much they should not be respected on any level.

Defeated?? Nah they done with myron's BS.

@BIG BAD OGRE holy shit i would love to see that

Great example of why you shouldn't debate bigots on their platform. They have nothing of value to say, and going on their podcast just creates more content for them.

why are they there? are they getting paid?

​@@leothecuisinart fame I guess.

I've realised that, generally speaking, unintelligent people try and find simple reasons for why their lives/the world sucks. It's scary to realise that the world is complex and random and that you're entirely unimportant so instead people pick a certain group and say that everything sucks because of that group. Just look at conspiracy theorists blaming Jews or "the deep state" and saying they control the world, or these guys acting like their life sucks not due to major societal problems but because women won't suck their weewee. It's almost like a messed up form of escapism where they can ignore the big scary world or their personal failures and blame something else

This video and comment section is filled with disengenuous people. If you've ever watched their content they tell men to be their best selves. Get in shapre, get your money on point etc. Then when that is complete start dating. The red pill is not about pity. It's about understanding the mechanics and playing the game with the right tools. Whenever they talk about feminism its to point to the fact that it has given women the freedom and the power, but also the responsibilities that go along with it and there is a negative side to unlimited female sexuality. Unlimited female sexuality leads to polygamy and females would rather share a top dude/high value male/alpha. The perfect example is groupies for rockstars and famous people.

People who how aren’t lifeless incels don’t watch them lmao

@@tamialeslie7187 how can you judge something you don't know? make it make sense

@@tamialeslie7187 you are obviously ignorant and it shows by your comment. Fresh and fit are all about self improvement and the opposite of incels. They work to help men be the opposite of incels. Maybe you shouldn’t comment on things you know nothing about.

dude that's horrible... i feel really sorry for your sister for being surrounded by these kids, but also sorry for them... this is totally messed up

KZfaq shouldn't allow kids as viewers, parents/adults should supervise how their children use digital plataforms.

Tf seriously? Wtf is wrong with the parents? They should monitor what their kids watch

There are way too many toxic male podcasts selling impressionable young boys on the idea of the dominant alpha male. Then they wonder why they grow up and women are repelled by them.

That's heartbreaking...

Exactly this! The consequences of being a conventionally unattractive woman are far steeper than being a conventionally unattractive man. Men get to be ugly. Women do not.

What are you willing to bet he doesn't realize that they're wearing makeup/ how much they're wearing?

@@Kayla_P99 Or he'd be like "no you guys choose to wear that" 💀

@@gracefulslumber8441 so it isn't a choice? When a man works out, is that a choice? I bring that up because feminists often make fun of men going to the gym. Not all women obviously. Because tons of women of all shapes use he gym. Look I'm not discrediting womens' experiences at all. I'm just asking questions. The "women don't get to be ugly" was really sad. Honestly I feel so bad for y'all. But to be fair women have makeup. And ugly man has nothing except maybe facial hair and that's a big maybe. I'm not making a comparison that men suffer more, that's pointless and stupid. I just want to say I see tons of women with no makeup and that's makes me happy. You're beautiful for what it's worth. I understand where these toxic beauty standards come from for women and they're there. Noone should expect the impossible. And for men also. But I'm talking about women rn. I also have one question though? I wear jacket and pants and shirt. I've seen women dress like this too. I've gotten dirty looks from women for having my chest exposed slightly due to a lack of a second button. I dress modestly and like a normal person. I don't even wear sweatpants anymore although those are normal too. Yoga pants too. I guess. So why are so many women dresses with bellybutton exposed, or a long jacket and invisible short shorts? The guy equivalent is sleeveless tees or being shirtless. And of course any of the following women things I listed. Also styled dyed hair. Is this men's fault too? Men fashion designers not making normal clothes for women? Because I see tons of regular women. They don't catch my eye as much (not in a sxul way just observing) but that can't be it. It can't be for male attention you make it very clear it's for yourselves. Idk what I'm trying to say I guess women just have a lot more to express themselves with. Idk I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad and I love all of you I'm sorry if I offended anyone I just wanted to be honest. Also if you know any other attention seeking men clothes I failed to list then sorry

@@Kayla_P99 I wish you didn't have to wear makeup. Women are normal people and shouldn't have to. Btw to clarify my earlier comment, if you wear something out of the ordinary it's for attention. It's so someone will notice or it's something "that expresses you". We're all the same noone is special. We are all taught this time and time again. In the real world. So if you think what I said about the clothes is sexist, I hold the same standard for men and women. Of course religious wear is exempt from this. This is my opinion, if it makes you happy then you do you. I doubt women haven't been made fun of either during school. I also might be one of the most insecure people ever I'm realizing as I get older so maybe that's me. As I said I'm not shaming any of you for something you can't control, I'm just being honest in how I judge people. Spaghetti straps for women is even ok now but exposed shoulders for men isn't. In my book. If you think I'm a bad person for this that's fair and I completely understand where you're coming from. I don't want to ruin anyone's day the most important thing is that you're happy. And I hope you all are. If you hate me I completely get it but I won't lie. Not all men are like this. Just me

OMG TARAA

@@ikilledthemoon copy paste ur comment here i wanna read it

@@polly-fe3pq Here is his comment. 💅 Have fun. It's absolutely ludicrous. Jude D "You people are weird. Fresh and Fit is extremely useful content. Let me address some of the points made in the video: 1: Attention for women is like sex for men because it's a part of how they get validated by men. While men get validated by women through sex. Women get sexual attention for free and mostly leverage that as a weapon against men, which is why they crave attention and resources from men of higher status (hypergamy). That's why you often find average women that have a huge group of male 'friends' they keep around for whatever they might need and it's mostly one way friendships in the direction of the woman. Women very often keep men like that around for free validation and string them along with the hopes those men might get sex. 2: I don't watch F and F much anymore (I actually started watching them after realizing I couldn't stand their disrespectful behavior towards women in short clips) but when I did I noticed they mostly kick out women breaking the rules, and they're generally not disrespectful at all towards women. The only time they are kind of is when they're all introducing themselves and the women get roasted. But everyone gets roasted, including fresh and myron and chris and the fat guy. Only ones that don't get roasted are the women that actually work there. They don't really interrupt women constantly. Only when the women constantly say contradictory bullshit or when women act solipsistically and pretend their personal experiences represent realtiy. The woman on the couch is late to the show. So she ends up on the couch. She's not being interrogated or anything. The only way you end up not on the couch is if you're famous like Asian Doll (except she was being disrespectful to the rules by interrupting and got kicked out) 3: It probably is too many people on a podcast. But that's why they say 1 person speaks at a time and only the hosts can interrupt if the show is going in circles. 4: The women on the show get to speak their point of mind but they constantly say things that are objectively stupid. Like claiming women like soft feminine men who are emotionally available. Okay. Women that are outliers think there's a significant amount of men that can be successful being that way because women are mostly passive. But most men that are that way have an extremely difficult time reproducing. Women will keep insisting that their objective perception of reality is fact until the women around the table are polled and it is always revealed that the woman that's speaking is just being solipsistic. The women are allowed to roast anyone, but not disrespect the rules of the show. They're even allowed to be disrespectful to the hosts, but when they do it's always over a disagreement, and not because what the host is saying is objectively false or outright stupid. As far as interrupting goes, I used to think Myron would only let guests like Rollo Tomassi or Coach Greg or someone like that interrupt but in reality they let women on the show interrupt if they are regulars that don't harm the quality of the show. In fact, they clearly don't like ANY one interrupting but will give regulars, even regulars who disagree more leeway. Most people interrupt and say stupid things or derail the conversation. 5: 7:50 only about 40 percent of men have ever reproduced. 80 percent of women ever have reproduced. So yes, men must live in a reality based world where their feelings are secondary while women get to live in a feelings based world where they don't suffer immediate consequences for doing things that do not provide value to society or harms her value. That's why so many women will argue by saying "I feel like" rather than providing facts. There are numerous clips of women on the show claiming facts aren't real. Society isn't really built FOR men. It's built for women, men are just the bureaucracy of a society that's owned and dictated by women. Men are the executives and low level employees, women are the shareholders. 9:40 Neither sex would have inherent value as 'people' if men didn't intrinsically place value on any woman. 9:10 Hypergamy is oppressive towards men because it forces men to compete within patriarchy. If men didn't have to compete you could be a loser that does drugs all day and plays video games, has no money saved up, and have a viable shot at reproducing. The privilege of not having to compete in a dangerous world in order to have a chance at finding an equal is invisible to those who have it."

@@ikilledthemoon where's ur comment I wanna read it

Just a triggered lady and her simp bestfriend whining over other peoples opinion😂 not tryna hate or nothing, but damn let people speak there mind if they want to

Men and women are not the same.

@@A-RedHerring Doesn't matter: in practicality, not in theory, how are men supposed to have as much sex as is possible if women are supposed to never have sex at all?

Exactly lol

Only top guys are promiscuous. Coz they have options. Like kings.

@@dominikjunior1998 Of course but that still doesn't answer the question.

The top 20% are the tall, rich, successful and charismatic men. 3 of those attributes require a ton of work.

@@thrilla72 sorry can you explain what you mean by that, I could read what you said several different ways

@@christmastiger The top 20% do not get everything because of their looks. Those men have to put in work to be in the top 20%.

Basically it shortens to "Other people are treated nicely because they don't have shitty personalities, therefore, it must be THEIR fault for setting too high of an expectation of basic human decency."

@@christmastiger To further expand, being successful career wise takes at least 10 years of diligent work (counting education, training and working your way up). Charisma is not natural for the vast majority. You have to figure out how best to communicate with different types of people. Even the looks, we are assuming that man has an athletic body which requires diet and exercise.

Your comment is soo misandristic, just because he puts out the reality between men and women, you seem intimidated. Dnt be insecure because hes a strong independent man.

Also notice how heated he gets when the woman said his feelings were hurt by what she said. He immediately feels the need to make it seem like she basically slapped him in the face or something, instead of admitting he was just hurt by her calling him bro.

@@vortexlight8387 do you know what misandry means?

@@djtheturtle1399 do you know what misogyny means?

@@TenderNoodle no its not "hurt" its just putting boundaries on people who are condescending.

Hit the nail on the head! And also let's not forget that those standards were also created by men because women didn't really have any say in, well, basically anything. But clearly women are to blame! 🤪

Not to mention that FEMINISM is the movement that advocates for breaking down these stupid sexist standards against men. The redpuke gama males want to continue these useless baseless social norms that treat men like shit. Like how can they not understand this??

@@kuurakarppi7778 Yes, you do. Most women want to date muscular and tall men.

@@views-kb6sv No most women do not want that. Srry

@@i10i60 stats say differentl

Exactly. So if all women wanted to keep this so called value by being completely obstinate before marriage or something, who would these men be being promiscuous with??? Only other option would be each other or to do illegal activities.

Also as someone who is a woman waiting to have sex so called “alpha” men don’t enjoy that about me either???? They will absolutely judge me for it but are also still condensending towards women who do have sex like we all know it’s not about the women it is definitely just about controlling women

It isn't good either way.

@@maliktp13 in your opinion. It's not an objective thing, aslong as everyone is consenting, informed adults no one is being hurt

It's basically this. Women can have sex easily just by walking in to a store or anywhere and say "who wants sex?" And I guarantee men will come running. Now let's flip it if a random average dude did that noone would even look his way because sex is very hard for men to get. Therefore if a man is having a lot of sex he EARNED it. Women don't get to play the game (sex) on easy mode and get the hard mode benefits (not being called a hoe) but a man whose had to play the game on hard mode (make money, get in shape, be confident,) all these other things just to play the game and if he wins and get a lot of sex he gets rewarded not shamed. That's the difference. That's why he said privilege is invisible to those who have it

a lot of important men in the world give LOTS of money to those jobs too

when people say “women rely on their looks” i’m like GEE I WONDER WHY

Yeah, and they never want to talk about the psychological impact of being a woman who gets no attention for those aspects along with the psychological impact of being a woman who ONLY gets attention for those aspects. The truth is, none of us wants to exist in a world where we are that sexualized even if some learn to use it to their advantage. I wish more men wanted to hear from us rather than talk at us or about us

@@user-gn4pk1qd2l Why should they?

​@@maatonne fresh and fit aboned what are you doing here go back to your incel please

Also men could literally as well? Men can marry for money... there are rich women out there, there are rich gay men as well. They act like it's impossible for men to take advantage of their looks. It's not lol they just don't wanna do it because they know it's a shit deal

@@the-anti-theist my mom always made more than my dad and they had a great relationship, stfu

@@the-anti-theist That's a shit take. As long as someone has a job it's all good tbh. It's very hard for people to survive without both partners working and if one makes less that shouldn't matter. I don't care if my future bf/gf/ partner makes less than me. Although considering I work retail that's hard to do since my pay is already pretty awful but I'll still love them as long as they're kind and love cats :)

@@the-anti-theist you say it’s an exception to the rule, but you haven’t actually demonstrated that there’s a rule in the first place.

@@phosphenevision Right men relying on their looks is a thing. Every guy has a friend who doesn't have a lot going for them, but they still do really well with women because they're handsome lol.

Yep, they have linktree under all their videos. You can go click on a video and look.

No. It's just that Myron has a lot of asstistics - pulls a lot of his statistics out of his ass. 🙄

their sources are their aggrieved sense of privilege

@@andrewkoster6506 Check their linktree. What you interpret from those studies is debatable but they at least have some evidence to support what they are saying.

@@thrilla72 So you agree? They draw fale conclusions from the studies and their interpretation is questionable, yet you still agree with them? How can someone be so unintelligent. I’m surprised you have enough braincells to remember how to breathe!

Thank God there are normal people out there, I forget that sometimes 😅

This dude we don’t claim him, he is pandering to women for no reason. Facts are facts dissect the argument not just say you are embarrass to be a guy

Why??

These two lack comprehensive and critical thinking skills. One with glasses is feminine

@@dimmak-qy8rq lol ok

it all comes down to insecurity and bluster. even if the women on this podcast aren't sharp enough or empathetic enough to recognize when a dude is just being insecure and weak, on a deep down level I think most of them feel it. that's why this is so strange to watch, they don't seem to understand why it's wrong but most of them FEEL that it is. they're just coming from the same heteronormative background that keeps them from having the understanding or language to clap back at these dumbshits

@@vortexlight8387 🤡

@@vortexlight8387 if you think I would complain that my partner didn't defend me if a robber broke into my house you're delusional. it's not his job to protect me, it's our job to protect one another as human beings. you're just backwards

@@vortexlight8387 the saddest thing is that “men are oppressed” narrative is actually somewhat valid if you include queer men in the conversation but just like you, most “””””alpha men”””” are queerphobic and other/berate them for being outside the gender roles that most straight men complain abt

@@xXluluchanelXx lool u wud leave him the next day 🤣 u live in delusion.

@@ikilledthemoon Please, just go to therapy.

@やった-アリアナ Honestly don't bother with this dude, he's actually delusional and can't be rationalized with. He also has said women don't have value without men and some women are only good for sex. So really the bottom of the barrel kind of dude.

omfg YES. this literally reminded me of those boys in year 7 who are insecure because they haven’t gone through puberty yet so they cope by watching shitty podcast alphas or whatever. idk i always avoided them 💀

Honestly you can take all the pros of "you can get by on your looks" or "you can make money from being hot" and it's instantly outweighed by the cons of periods and pregnancy, let alone sexual harassment. I have a friend who is pregnant and talking to her I'm just constantly thinking "damn, I'm glad I'm a dude because this shit sounds scary"

@@SuperNuclearUnicorn Honestly yeah I feel the same and I'm non-binary (afab) I hate the whole idea that I could get pregnant since it makes me uncomfortable and I don't want kids. I've had close calls after hookups and honestly I hate having a uterus. Sadly I'm not sure I can ask to be sterilized at my age since I haven't had kids (which is dumb)

@@blakelopez6309 I wanted to be sterilized, too, but so many doctors are like, wHaT iF yOu ChAnGe YoUr MiNd???1!? Like what does it matter if I change my mind? I know I won't, but it was my decision and it is my decision. The whole thing is so stupid. Best of luck if you decide to pursue trying to get a doctor to do that for you.

While men may *tend* to have less cons women (white men at least...because for instance, if you want to play the comparison game there's more cons for indigenous men than white women), I would say the pros of being a human being in general -- man or woman -- greatly outweigh the cons. Granted, my view comes from being a life long practitioner of taoism, but it's also the closest thing to an objective truth in my mind. Also, her example "I might die if I walk alone home at night" kind of flatlines, considering that men are statistically more likely to be mugged/murdered by another man on the street.

@@gracefulslumber8441 I remember watching a Ted Talk of a woman talking about her experience trying to become sterile. At one point the doctors actually asked her "Your current partner may be okay with this, but what if you change partners in the future and that partner wants a kid?" As if the dudes wants are more important than hers. Like wtf? If someone wanted kids and I can't have kids, then we obviously wouldn't pursue a long term relationship? Why are women expected to cater their body to men?

Don't be shy, name drop the site 👀 mama needs a new purse lol

That’s called prositution

This is so funny! His seeking profile just got leaked. Such a loser. 🌈✌️

But honestly if you think about it, don't those dudes essentially pay for their hypothetical wife. I mean, that is pretty much what it comes to by their rhetoric.

@@queenofhearts7503 captain obvious saves the day again

How can there be a patriarchy when men have a disadvantage and women can be in positions of power?

@@views-kb6sv lol

@@gehinkun It's a serious question.

@@views-kb6sv because it forces men into behaving "manly", lest they be seen as feminine. Men are less likely to seek treatment for mental health issues, are more likely to successfully commit suicide, more likely to commit violent crime, etc because emotional vulnerability and seeking therapy/help is viewed as a feminine trait. Ever notice why most insults directed at men tend to be emasculating or feminizing (sissy, pansy, pussy, etc)? That's because under the patriarchy one of the worst things a man be is feminine.

@@cyberneticfish8086 That just sounds like toxic masculinity, not patriarchy.

So funny, my fiance is a huge Lord of the Rings fan. We are even having a Lord of the rings wedding.... and he is literally the most masculine and kind person I've ever met? Correlation equals causation? Lets just say Yes for fun.

@@jessigirlrae1688 Haha, yeah... I posed this question to my fiance as well if there is a female character in a movie or show that perfectly portrays a woman in the same fashion (the best woman said woman can be type deal). I wouldn't claim to have an opinion on the matter of course, but it'd be nice to see a female character in a movie/show that is as universally recognizable to women as showing positive female traits.

Very well-said.

Really ? Explain over 1000 of female strip clubs, and not that many male strip clubs. Explain majority of only fan models are women. Hooters,twin peaks & other restaurants do you see men in muscle shirts and shorts ? No? Exactly

@@504gucci4 sorry, I just now saw this comment. I'm not saying that women don't rely on their looks, or even that they do/don't rely on them more. I'm just saying that some men can as well. Or really, anyone that's good looking can. Tbh I don't really understand the point of your comment since I didn't claim or argue that women don't rely on their looks.

@@breaunnalj2829 some men vs majority of women , ok

@@504gucci4 okay? The statement still stands. I don't understand what the issue is. I'm not even saying your wrong?

@@504gucci4 You misspelled "some". "Some men vs. Some women"

"It's that these people aren't actually talking about men's problems, they're just complaining about women." 📢📢📢📢📢 There's (at least) one dude here that has been commenting "mEn fACe VioLenCe tOo" when women are talking about themselves, classic right? And naturally this dude is here only arguing who has it worse. Not once have seen or heard any of these guys talk about WHY that violence is happening to men. And then when they are called out on it, they play the victim.

Yes we'll said I totally agree they refuse to address the actual problems and instead turn the podcast into hateful tirades against women

Objectification is so much fun to go through, women really do love a guy who will treat them like a sex toy

Don't worry most 1st world women will be single because you think men wanting you to be feminine is some sort of attack on u

@@shamelessdab2.088 This comment is so irrelevant to what the OP said. What are you even talking about, dude?

@@faultytv2180 ask someone who has the patience to teach u

@@shamelessdab2.088 I think someone touched a nerve lmao

@@shamelessdab2.088 lmfao exhibit A of someone who doesn’t get the point per usual

if you tried to tell these men that a "plain Jane" is cute to some people (hi! lol) I am pretty sure their heads would actually just pop right off their shoulders.

@@xXluluchanelXx plain janes for the win tbh

In the minds of these guys it almost feels they forget that women usually aren't gold digging instagram models. They probably hardly ever interact with normal women irl so they just assume they're all hyper promiscuous, super skinny with big fake tits and hate men. Kinda similar, a former friend who has basically never interacted with any kind of Ls, Gs, Bs, Ts or Qs and thinks they're all super flamboyant and all want to rape straight guys or assault women in bathrooms. (can you tell why he's a former friend?) The best cure for hate is exposure to those groups, but people like that build their own little world and never meet anyone who isn't a straight white man

Tbh yeah, they all assume everyone thinks the same and lives in the same stone age mindset as they do. I say that as someone who is bi and nonbinary but also my main interest is finding a partner that loves cats, plushies, fashion, and art as much as I do :D The world isn't as black and white as those guys see it and I'd feel bad for them if they weren't spreading such awful messages on their podcast.

So you are asexual? Is that not an outlier and an exception? If the majority of people were asexual, what would happen to the population?

He's arguing that a lot of the things we have are from a biological standpoint and not from a social standpoint, and therefore cannot be overwritten. That's the fundamental difference. Lefties usually think everything is taught, while people like us believe everyone has a firmware which cannot be overwritten without causing damage.

@@metadata5760 there’s not a single thing said on that podcast that was a “biological fact”

@@randomchick901 I didn't watch the video, but those are only small sections. Their podcasts are usually 2-3 hours long.

@@metadata5760 then why are you even commenting if you didn’t even watch the video? How foolish

​@@randomchick901it shows how dumb they are and how they can't expand their reasoning and thinking it's pathetic

yes thank you! I was desperatly trying to think of an opposite example! all so stupid cause at the end of the day we are not inanimate objects created with only one soul purpose that determines our value

I'm definitely stealing this and saying it to people.

Also some men don't take no for an answer with the physical side after dinner has been paid for.

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Yeah! Preach it from the roof tops!

@@ikilledthemoon I'm sorry you weren't able to discern this from my previous comment; but I was not referring to you, I was referring to the original comment.

@@ikilledthemoon Yeah and do you study evolutionary psychology? I do. And this-massive- over-simplification of the origin patriarchy you've presented is very telling. Patriarchy arises first and foremost from the fact that men are biologically stronger than women. In wild environments, often brawn is much more relevant than brain. So the men were able to subjugate and rape (extremely common) women. So for this reason, women would choose stronger males to mate with, who would protect them from weaker men (who could still easily over power the woman) as a form of mate guarding. This is again still too simplified to explain the complex evolution of patriarchy, its causes and the resulting feedback loop that have existed for centuries. Thanks for reading tho.

A lock that can be opened by multiple specific keys isn't hard to make. You just have a single tumbler. That way, only a small segment of the keys needs to be the same, then the rest of it can be different for other locks. Or you can have no tumblers and any long flat piece can unlock it, like those cheap bathroom door locks you can pick with a small screwdriver. You don't want to take those locks home to meet your parents.

@@Jeremy-ql1or very intent on maintaining a bad analogy. People are humans not inanimate objects

​@@Jeremy-ql1or please, KZfaq. Add a block button

@@TotosTales That's what an analogy is LMAO, if you compare humans to other humans it's not an analogy anymore...

@@maatonne find better and more accurate objects then

A lot of women could make way more than their job in way less time. But they innately they know that prostitution or OnlyFans will decrease their value, and are afraid of the social consequences.

@@metadata5760 or they just don't like it lol

@@iJustWannaBeNameless You think they like going to a 9 to 5? There are attractive women working as waitresses, working for way less than they could make on OF. Any attractive woman would do it if there were no social consequences.

@@metadata5760 i doubt everyone likes the same thing. sure the stigma sex work has stops some ppl from doing it, but ppl may not like it for not wanting to be open with their sexuality, for having bad body image, for not liking taking photos or videos, for wanting to avoid harassment etc.

@@iJustWannaBeNameless exactly. like, i dont wanna sleep with strangers for money. but then again, i also dont wanna work in retail. everybody has their preferences.

and women on the aro or ace spectrum

Unfortunately, they probably would say that you're an exception, not the rule

You must be really smart.

lol

No those fact are based about " what they want to hear"

Personally, as a trans guy who doesn’t pass, bc I’m out and openly trans, I’m just more afraid lol

You are lucky then because growing up as a guy, the threat of violence is real and frequent. The statistics on street violence support this.

@@thrilla72 which gender is commiting this street violence?

@@thatoneperson8154 you shut him up 😂😂

@That One Person 🤣😂👏👏 can't mental gymnastic his way out of that one haha!

They don't have the intellect to think that deeply, Nev.

STOP NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Same here. I love her already.

This wiped me out. Lol.

i know it’s not all of them but like how do ALLL of those women let that conversation continue between the host and that girl?? if i was sitting there i would’ve interrupted so quickly and the fact that none of them did shows the internalized mysogny and it’s sad edit* also could be a lot of other things to play why each individual didn’t speak out so i don’t wanna take away from the nuance of that

@@eidunooo that makes a lot more sense

Deadass💀

They're idiots, Lisa. Sorry you have to suffer through this.

Having been in these circles, yes they really don't care to break out of the harmful dichotomy they know is hurting them so they're only upset at women/feminism for not being able to drag them out of a binary they won't let go of. Like bruh grow a spine already and actually fight gender roles not all wahmen for being able to get out the box a little bit or just go join the Amish, they have everything yall want.

"if i ignore reality the world will be whatever i want it to be" properly one if not both of them

You almost got me ngl 😅

I almost didn’t pick up on the sarcasm😭

Their brand is based on the facts in the dating market. The problem with you 🤡 is that yall love to think what they are saying are their opinions when it's clearly not. It's literally facts backed by the stats you ladies provide to the dating market which you can do research on. Remember that saying that the world doesn't revolve around you. That applies here. Just because you've seen or dated a few people doesn't make you an expert on how women think or want especially if you're a women. That podcast is nothing more then truth at I'd purest form which is why we have 🤡 like yourself on here saying these dumb things following the same females who don't do anything to elevate your life which is why again you are on here lol. See how that works. You females need to stop complaining and start holding females like this responsible for messing it all up for you and the rest. But nah. Women gotta stay together because yall have it hard 🤣 eith the own issues yall caused yourselves. Accountability is knocking

His views are based on studies. Not feelings

These little boys responding to you have made my day. 😂 They just can't stop talking about their "facts" and "studies", can they? Yet they never have any valid sources except for some crusty incel articles who *also* have no sources.

@@stop-- are you slow or what. Everything said has a link tree on their video description. If you actually watch the show you'll know they mention this very key thing all the time. The studies and research are all there proving that people like you are simply just delusional and keep making excuses for not doing the one thing you should've done before commenting. RESEARCH

@@stormz761 Alpha wolves were proven to be wrong. How embarrassing. And post these studies? Please tell me its not the SAME one about the TINDER study thats proven over and over to be incredibly circumstantial and does not relate to actual life.

I think that men like to be over comfortable with /display ownership over women by calling them pet names and get upset when women do it back.

I've had women call me "dude" or "bro" and I've never had a problem with it. I don't know why these guys lose their shit over something so small

Snowflake 😂😂😂😂

Jarvis has actually been around for a while now! He’s starting to gain traction especially in the past year but I’ve been watching his content for 3 years now :)

@@dr.alphys yeah plus doesn't Jarvis have a shit ton of subs? He's at nearly 2 mil while Gabi is at 15k. He's definitely not some up and comer, he's made it

Chris James is a riot

@@SuperNuclearUnicorn alright my bad

Chadchad is a good one!

unfortunately you forget that women are really just expected by these men to lay there and take it during sex. if anything, these guys will take like two minutes to “pleasure” them by pulverizing them w their fingers 🤦

Well their whole idea is that the guy will teach the woman and even if she sucks in the beginning, like you said people get better with experience...she must get that experience with HER MAN, not 100s of one night stands

When you hit 30 you will have this mindset again

@@rexqt5337 no I'm not going back to that because I'm not a fucking child anymore and I don't deny reality and hate women

You sound like maybe you lack understanding of women and people who aren't men. It's good to educate yourself on feminism since it helps you not be a massive prick to others and helps you not force toxic masculinity on yourself :)

They're not following any of this bs. Lol.

Please, live your fantasy. Ask to go on the show.

It’s all in your head. There isn’t any bias. I always see woman always try to put themselves as a victim. I am also an engineer and work with other women. Majority try to have a victim mentally like you. Just get good at what you do. You’re in a competitive environment get used to it. We don’t consider you a lady at the workplace. If you’re dumb you’re dumb. There is a specific woman I work with and she has incredible knowledge, and she is highly respected. If you’re good, you’re good. If you feel this way, then you’re lacking in something or not good

What are they saying that's untrue? I can look it up

@@Ivang017 cringe. Get better syntax and grammar and maybe I’ll respect your comment

Post this "air-tight arguments" and "research" please. Because a lot of the things they talk about ARE well established and accepted concepts in psychology, such as hypergamy, women being more emotional, differences in temperament, women tend to be attracted to bullies/dark triad personalities etc. Thats gonna be really difficult to debunk, at best you'll find 1 or 2 cherrypicked articles that are at best, self-reported, aka as good as useless. Morally you can argue, implementation you can argue, lofestyle you can argue, but all that stuff IS based on science

Oh bc “men gud woman bad”🤷‍♀️

They really are a sad little cult. Not even an intimidating cult. It's just a cult where the goal is to complain about vagina havers for half of the day and cry while watching porn for the other half.

a guy that understands that humans aren't pencil sharpener is a smart guy, a guy that says stuff like this is a dumb guy, make of that what you will

@@the.lesbian.weirdo First of all, I'm a girl, not a guy. Second of all, my point was that you can make up any analogy to make a point, but that doesn't make the analogy correct. Meaning you can make one analogy comparing humans to locks and keys and it can be a very succinct analogy and still be totally wrong. Basically I think you missed my point. I'm *making fun* of the lock-key analogy by saying another dumb analogy that says the opposite. I obviously agree that humans aren't objects and their sexual activity does not define their worth.

@@justagirl... sorry my bad and aslo about the guy thing i use guy as a gender neutral trem again very sorry

As someone who was married to an insecure man like this..... yes..... it still can be. When a mysoginistic marries, he sees you as his property and will use every mean spirited thing in the world to put you down to think you deserve it.

@@jessigirlrae1688 congrats on getting out of that. I wish you all the happiness and best of luck in your future love life