Heyo gamers, obviously please don't harass these individuals. If you want to do something, tell your friends that if they need to report something, report it to Discord trust and safety. At the end of the day, these guys are trying to do something good but it just fails miserably. With respect to ScammerAlert, be prepared for a paragraph cause these people are driving me up the wall. ScammerAlert focuses on the grey area part of Discord. Since Discord won't care if you got scammed trying to buy cheap nitro, ScammerAlert tries to be the solution. From their community of users, they claim to be the most transparent. And from the collection of our police academy of idiots, they are the most competent. However, fundamentally you are relying on the systems and staff in place to ensure your safety on the platform. With trust it takes time to build and seconds to ruin and my hypothetical example of being scammed by a staff member is trying to illustrate that point. Apparently staff have been banned before but who's to say it won't happen again. ScammerAlert is a lot like SteamRep, it's hella useful if you are in that market. But SteamRep had it's own issues despite it trying to fill a similar gap. The Caelen fella was not a part of LOA Safety Center but was a part of SafetyTree. Not entirely important in the context of the video but I should make that clear.

In the LOA safety center, someone called to ban a guy who made reasonable arguments and I replied to it with just the Chinese flag and my message was deleted 💀

this reminds me of a minecraft thing that people did to fight hackers... a plugin that checks on a database to see if a person was banned on a server that used it, if he was banned on 3 servers he wouldnt be able to join any other server, so the people that got banned (a griefing group) decided to ban the owner after they themself started hosting servers just to ban a lot of people lmao *This wont go good is what i wanna say*

Ok funny idea: report each staff on *other* security servers, and do that until each staff members is banned on the other servers, and watch the chaos unfold

automod belike: am i a joke to you

Great video! I looked into it, a few servers were deleted and on ScammerAlert they marked the scammers as the Scammer role.

no way ntts used the picture of that cop who had a sex scandal

We've seen a concept like this tried before. There used to be a Minecraft server plugin that kept track of bans across all servers using the plugin and would ban you from all of them. And whaddya know, it got discontinued because the owner of the blacklist was abusing it to punish people for no reason and give himself immunity.

Once upon a time I actually was involved in a project such as this, almost 7 years ago now, so it's not a new idea. I won't go into much detail but it started off as a simple automatic raid detection/prevention bot, the bot was I think in around 8 to 10 thousand servers by that point. The owner had an idea to make this sort of system where people report bad actors to a team who would investigate claims and approve or deny adding to the global banlist. I didn't get involved with that straight away and from my perspective from the beginning it was starting to show a lot of flaws, bias, corruption, or just bad management overall as you would expect from a bunch of dumb teens. I eventually just left since I didn't want to be associated with it anymore, not sure what happened to it. I remember some Discord staff member had talked with the owner before so maybe Discord was aware? However that's just speculation. Overall is there any use for a system like this? Globally, no, plain stupid. Shared bans between sibling servers could work but that's not what they are about. Pointless for me to even write about it but just sharing some memory.

Who knew giving a bunch of power to discord mods was such a bad idea? I am just *astonished* that a platform with the most undeniably social ppl would have troubble with mods being biased like this. /j Great video btw! It's noice

that banning from an amount of servers reminds me of something people made in the past to ban people from some servers on minecraft

I have had a previous experience with mod role abuse. However it was pretty humorous and the mod team as a whole has a good laugh abt it. Baisicly one of the newer mods was getting frustrated with how when one of the chats was muted, ppl used reactions instead… sooooo the mod said the next person to react will be muted. I will admit, I poked the bear here. I reacted with an ok symbol and thumbs up. I was muted for a grand total of 2 weeks. However I was a pretty senior member, so one of the senior mods intervened, and had a bit of a laugh. I got a temporary role that allowed me to /moot ppl, (Baisicly it gave the message for muting spelled incorrectly, and had an “appeal” link, that was just a rickroll, it also pretty clearly stated it wasn’t a real mute, but it was still pretty funny)

They even have corporate-like positions thinking they have a job. I assure you, they do one quick google search on this and this is what they got. They are like Reddit mods who think that they contribute to society.

The only thing I've seen like this that makes sense is with dayz server discords- since most of their transgressions are in-game, having a conglomerate of servers that get together and put huge offenders that consistently break multiple servers rules on a list so server owners both old and new can protect their servers, is good.

The moment I saw them partnered with a server called "The Safe Space" I immediately knew who these kind of people were lmao. Think about it for a second. A Safe Space, on an online platform, that has public invites.

Those dudes think they're above everything kinda sad tbh.

Funniest thing is, if they took actually starting a business this seriously, they could actually be making some dough instead of just looking like some

Imagine being in an anty scam server that doesn't deal with stuff against the TOS, while scamming is against the TOS

i do like the concept of these servers (As in, a server to get offenders banned on all servers with their bot after you reported them to discord cause let's be honest, they'll prob get it done faster then discord notices your reports and offically bans them) however....where it falls apart is the fact discord users are rule-ing it ....who powertrip SO HARD for no reason whatsoever and ofcourse, are currupt, bias, and are hypocritical as hell assuming you don't actually just contact those servers without contacting discord themselves first

Similarly saw this kind of power house behavior with the Minecraft Physics Mod creator. In his discord server people ask if him selling the pro version of the mod is against EULA, his response to those people either make no sense or is very toxic. One funny example I can give was someone asked and the creator responded "this is not the place to talk about this" then the guy asked where can be talk about it and I promise you the creator said "idk".

0:35 That's how MC Bans worked, except you can't remove bans off your account, even when the server no longer exists, and the people on other servers don't out right ban you, they get warned by the system that someone joined they need to keep an eye on.

I think it’s a cool concept; it’s a temporary solution before Discord Trust & Safety actually does something. I’m sure something like this can be done with a greater degree of success by people who aren’t idiots.

how to solve this in three steps: Step one: create a discord server with the bot in it Step two: Ban the server owners on your own server Step three: enjoy the chaos

Really liked your video, very informative and gave plenty of awareness. I am too a owner of a small server, should always remain aware of such scams. Keep making such videos ! ✌🏻

it would be a shame if scammers got mass raided on their server, its not like theres tools out there to do so and the servers are public

This is annoying I'm an EO on a moderation training based server, and clearly, those people don't encourage correct moderation, they only encourage hatred toward mods that actually do a good job, which is annoying

Just like the local police (Discord Mods) being reported to the FBI (Discord Staff) for shady stuff.

Putting the police officer who was railed was funny asf

I have a feeling that these are Reddit mods in disguise

I think it's a good idea for types of servers that have their own general sets of rules that don't violate tos. For instance, if you and a community of servers for a specific type of game and don't want people who like grief, or do bad behavior only in game then a ban list like this would also be good. Or, if you and a community of servers intended to be a safe space for minority groups (like kids, LGBTQ+, people of color, disabled) and want stricter moderating on hate speech than what discord does, you could also do something like this.

Pretty sure Discord doesn't care about scammers. Especially for things against ToS like buying servers, you would risk losing your account to report a scammer. Btw ScammerAlert saved me from getting scammed one time because I opened a ticket and reported someone and they decided to change their mind. Being in the server without having a scammer role is kind of like a status thing. Ofc there isn't any feature like this in Discord. There's no scammer badge. They either wouldn't ban them or they'd just ban again and they'd probably make a new account

When Discord got rid of the trust and safety support category, and you went back to this video.

Yeah, I really think this is a solution with good intentions but uh, y'know. It never really works out like that.

Reminds me of roblox roleplay admins 😂😂

Sadly reporting to discord does next to nothing. Especially when it comes to servers breaking TOS

I had a bot that did this and was actually my first verified bot. The idea was not to ban users that break TOS or personal rules for your own server that don't apply to other servers. The idea was to prevent spam bots from joining your server (you know the ones that have the same name/pfp and go around your server advertising "FREE NITRO!!!"). Those bots would be auto detected, tested for human verification, and THEN banned. Only bot spam accounts were banned; human suspects are for you to handle yourself. We had a quick ban appeal too just in case something went wrong. But THIS... this is just going too far...

I used to be the security team leader for NA Advertising, following an internal staff investigation I headed the higher management fired almost half the competent security team for disagreeing with the case against one of the servers senior staff members…… I have never used any “safety” servers ever since.

that was some absolute heat you had playing

I always love how you end your videos

i was once banned for saying a "no i dont think i will" to a new moderator in DMs 💀💀💀

3:18 here I thought you’d gotten really above and beyond creative with censoring bad words…only to realize it was a gum ad that auto played 😂 “…grimy-”

I used to be doing something similar to this back in the good old days of Roblox, anti exploit groups, ah yes. We would have modules and work with game owners to moderate their games remotely we had one of those ban list thingys too as well as a bunch of tools to help with fixing and detecting exploits, glad to see this sort of field hasn't died

that is why in my friend's server we have multiple of staff roles like trainer, moderator, head moderator etc so that there is no corruption and limited power abuse and there is also rules for staff members for themselfs too and also voting for certain things because my friend is trying to make sort of democracy discord which is working well

I actually know a server that had a system like this but way worse. Not worse as in more corruption just, they were so so bad at it. The best part was it wasn’t even a security server from the foundation it’s a fricking roblox group called team cyclone. I remember before I left they made a fricking court room where they started investigating and trying people who broke the rules of their server and any server they could get their hands on. I talked to a mod of one of the other servers that got invaded by this court system and they were not pleased. It was a beautiful chaotic disaster that is still unfolding to this day.

I was in a discord server with a power-tripping mod once. They ENDED a minecraft server and caused the connected discord server to go abandoned over something small.

Why her at 5:29? 😂😂 She's about to take out the whole mod team.

HAHAH Thank you so much for this video, I know the owner of LOA Safety Center and its the worst system erver.

5:32 lmaoooo that caught me off guard

6:20 Nitro can be bought even from those who sell it, the main thing is to take into account whether they bought it from SOMEONE ELSE's card? If yes, the nitro will be returned (gift). If I buy something with a Turkish card.

You should 100% join the call of war community and look at the power trip servers. I got mass banned from the largest security server over helping a guy get mod and then that guy raided the server. (Which i didnt know he was gonna do) whilst a guy who was raiding non stop is now seen as “reformed” (he only stopped raiding like a month ago) and he is now in the top ranks of the security server

Up until the very start of this year, i was a sole mod in a server of about a thousand lurkers and maybe up to 10 active members... ive never banned anyone for badmouthing me: in fact i tended to correct and escalate. Call me fat and smelly? Id tell you I'm actually skinny and smelly. After almost four years of service i resigned, feeling i was no longer needed, a relic of a bygone era

I'm banned off all of those servers not because I broke ToS, because I helped my friend copy another Discord server that he was the original owner of. He was forced to giveaway ownership, and asked me if I wanted to help him recreate his server that he owned, and I said I would, but it seems like the new owners of the server he was forced to giveaway wasn't very happy with me, and him for doing that, so they reported me, and him to those safety servers, and got me banned. I find this really stupid, and just acts of child play. Just because I copied/recreated a server that was his.

This reminds me of the battlefield 4 database thing. You get reported and banned on there, you get banned on every server using BF4DB, which 99% of servers used.

Trust & Safety is an ethical conflict used to advertise your willingness to breach contract.

The only good thing I see with those servers is making people aware of harmful scams, but a lot of of them aren’t great

I think this is the one channel where I do not want my server to be in haha, I feel like having your server here would be when you did something ridiculously dumb.

Wait.... you weren't talking about geb and your old admins?

The worst ones for me are the ones who don't give a warning for using the n-word ending with "a" and ban you as their server is run by a company.

if i remember for my bots i was able to get them verified at around 70 servers so the LOA bot must be in around 30-50 servers

Wait, so basically all of those were small-to-medium-sized servers anyway. I guess it makes sense, Discord would notice if it was that large of a group, but that level of self-importance can only happen if you aren't actually that important.

"And- that's- that's the video, I love you very much! Bye bye!! Mwwwaaahhh

I was in a server called WASP and they do the same thing. Yet they abused power and banned people who expose them.

Tbh, these discord servers are probably better then discord when it comes to reporting idsues

Aren't mass ban databases breaking Discord TOS? I swear you where not allowed to have a bot ban a user from multiple other servers using a bot and a database that keeps all the banned users in it?

I thought automated bans across servers was already against discord's tos

Ik a server like that where they report people and when they get banned their partners ban them too

that banlist thing is basically what im doing wtf...

Y’know, I am pretty sure I’ve this _sht_ earlier, some guys on roblox were probably in those military roleplay games and kept trying to rule the entire server with “laws” keep in my, the server was a jjs server with several hakaris, war committing sukunas, and nuking gojos

5:36 That Triv person was the same one who I reported months ago and tried to partner with our server lmao

I remember a friend of mine got his server and himself banned because his server's role structure was inspired by the one LOA uses. 15-year-olds shouldn't run stuff like this.

Oh i was part of Lead Of Advertising before since i also partnered them before but i stopped since theres allot of Chaos happening in that server

[ai_peter] Oh hey, a video on Ascended! _(Spam, repeatedly changing other users' handles)_

The worst ones take it too seriously and don’t know how to have fun nor take a joke.

I've dealt with one of these stereotypical mods before, and I only joined the sever because my friend got banned and I wanted to know why.

Lol, I joined VSSN, LSC, and SafetyHub to report a chick that tried to scam me (and had overall bad Discord Staff etiquette). The chick was “popular” cuz she was a PM in multiple advertising servers. Bro just took one look at the report and marked it invalid. They arent even objective off the reports, they just make reports valid if it suits them.

So does this mean we should go report those servers then since they are breaking TOS?

why did they remove the "trust and safety" in the discord support page?

I love at the end he says "I love you very much bye bye"

I used to be in this community for these type of things. There used to be the only one named VPro. This has been around for years on years and I’m surprised how this has not been brought to light until now. Most of these communities for reporting these members to these discord’s are attempt to get the persons money back. If they’re scammers, they will not get their money back most likely but there is always a chance. If a person wants to get unbanned, then they need to pay the person they scammed. But I do agree as this is showing how power trippy these new “fraudsters” have now a days. Again, thank you for bringing this to light since I used to be apart of the “scammer alert” community and it’s just corruption ❤

It wouldn’t be awful if there were actual checks and balances to the system and not just discord admins deciding your fate. That’s probably why it’s barely got a few servers it works with.

TIL that there was a legit network of servers who try and fail to police discord via a bot with ban perms etc

Actually, 2 of the owners of NA Advertising got banned for NSFW from June of 2022 which was a while ago

As one of the network staff i would like to say we do report to discord, and no we do not claim that we are discord staff.

i took a shot every time you said "basically" and now i can't feel my

imagine being a kiddo and being like "i'm gonna be a discord scammer someday ✨"

I know, I know, you keep telling people to report potential scammers to Discord directly and it's kind of my fault for reporting the potential scammer to a simple moderator of the discord server we shared in common, but I just got banned off the Genshin Impact's discord because of Vencord. Because they needed screenshots of the ''entire conversation'', they we're able to see an edited message and figured I was using a ''3rd party Discord Client'', as they put it. And because any and all 3rd party client is against ToS they banned me. Well no, at first they muted me and asked me to remove the modification to discord, which I refused, explaining I use these modifications to help protect myself. They then immediately banned me.

I was in it xD YOu are right. They just waste time from others. I mean Discord Trust and safty was made for stopping those against tos not blocking from some servers.

This just popped up for me, There were/are a couple of good reasons for these server. But really only for very niche cases, They’ve never worked never will

I used to be in these servers I owned an ad server with like 10k members they would ban people most of the time without much proper checks and a lot of biases I got banned later on when I left a server I was staff in just realised my server is still part of the “LOA Network”

I love the picture of the female cop you used. I wonder how many people actually know what's going on with her.... oh wait, everyone knows LOL

We had this in Minecraft, had is a keyword. Now we have reports that no one wanted 💀💀💀

i cant get my eyes of that 195 msgs from someone on your DM

"Father, I must make a confession." "God will forgive any sin, my child. What is it you have done?" "I am a Discord mod." "I rescind my previous statement."

3:24 extended version pls. I would listen to that since it makes fun of them!!!

Did anyone else notice the 195 dms from the same person? Like I got so distracted by that for no reason 💀

3:21 What even it this 💀💀💀

Back in the day i was threatened to get banned from dozens of servers if I didn’t change my server name because it was apparently copying someone else’s server name…. Bruh

hey ntts from where u edit ur videos??

its like a tacobot, in discord world

I always thought they were stupid. I’m glad someone else agrees.