Can I recommend the Council Of Geeks. They are very critical of Doctor Who- but it CLEARLY comes from a place of love and Fandom. They have a lot of valid points to thier critique, many of which I often disagree with and that's why I watch. Because they are one of the only KZfaqrs I see who are critical of Who were it doesn't come from close-minded bigotry. And I love it when I agree with them. Alternatively when I watch these hate channels and the anti-wokers say something that I might actually connect with or even agree with, I feel like I need a shower afterward.

I am a 60 year old Classic Who fan, born in Derby, England. I have no wish to insult. Classic Who and I grew up together. You missed the best years to be a fan. No insult or condescension. Doctor Who isn't made for me now. I have moved on with my collection, which is here in Florida with me. You don't have to be a fan of what is to be a fan of what was. I am totally cool with that. We all have our time. I wish you all the best.

If someone complains about "wokeness" in Doctor Who I truly wonder what they'd get out of the show as a whole.

Patrick Troughton destroyed Dr Who with his youth-orientated approach.

Tom Baker is still the best Doctor for me. That guy made you believe he was otherworldly in his acting, and I love that. The long scarf is iconic too.

Doctor Who In Trouble As Ratings Fall To Lowest Point In 32 Years

I don't mind those fans who drop off the show because they don't like it anymore. It happened part way through Smith's era. And then there was a bigger drop a series into Capaldi's era. The difference with those guys was, they dropped the show, and just forgot about it. These guys hate the show, and continue to watch and fuel their own hatred by getting others to join in on the hate. So bizarre.

The BBC thought it was over when Colin Baker became The Doctor. 37 years later..........

I have noticed people are quick to jump on bad episodes and ignore good ones like Boom

I'm kinda curious now as to who you think the best Whovian reactors are on the platform.

I do not mine people not liking Doctor Who. What I do Mind is that they say it's trash and say they are leaving the franchise, but after the next season airs there back trashing it again.

It's funny how these youtubers constantly preach "freedom of speech" but as soon as you criticise their channels its suddenly illegal! 😅

New Who isn't for me but if you like it then I'm happy for you.

oh, and this isnt just a Doctor Who thing, they put the anti-woke on movies,,, movie has a strong female lead....woke. Now I dio think, some studios do things like race and /or gender swapping characters, that I do find annoying, but I can also be ok with it if it doesnt change the story, or like with Spiderman and Miles....Miles and Peter Parker are two different characters from two seperate worlds.

Great video - Most of these I had already written off as I don't need any more hate in my life (I get enough of that with angry politicians...) *But how about a flip side video of the great Doctor Who review channels that actually do research and point out nuances in the shows.*

I did not the like the Space Babies and liked Devil's Chord but saying Doctor Who is dead is taking it too far. These people are dismissing people who do like it by saying they are not real fans. Is it wrong to like the new Doctor Who. Aside from the Space Babies, I have been liking the new era.

You are spot on about Boles trek (I've seen the odd bit of Nerd rotic and I'm not really familiar with the others). He doesn't review , just rants , and clearly it panders to an audience. It's interesting to see that his early videos are nothing like this, he clearly hit on shouting the loudest about "wokery" and found it got him a following. Personally I wasn't a fan of Jodie's run , but not because it was "woke", and I did commengt a few times on his channel but he revealed his hand in his non-review of Demons of the Punjab where he admitted he hadn't properly watched it, misinterpreted what it was about regardless, and then started spouting racist conspiracy theories. He's a grifter, he isn't worth bothering with.

Being negative about something is the easiest and lazinest thing to do.

Nerdrotic says Doctor Who is imposing it's political agenda onto its viewers, saying thats wrong, before promptly doing it himself. His genuine belief in his own hypocrisy is just a joke.

Funny how as soon as you make a video like this, fans of those channels you dislike magically appear to tell you you're wrong. it's almost like they're being told to.

I am a long-time Whovian. Doctor Who is my favourite TV show and it's one of the reasons why I love fantasy and science fiction in general. David Tennant is my favourite Doctor Who and Karen Gillan is my favourite companion, and my favourite aliens/robots are the Cybermen, and I also like the Ood. When Jodie Whittaker was announced as The Doctor back in 2017, I was so mixed on it. My concerns about The Doctor becoming a woman were that it may not work and that it could ruin Doctor Who. The Jodie Whittaker/Chris Chibnall of Doctor Who was terrible. Jodie Whittaker was the worst Doctor Who ever. She really didn't suit the role and the 13th Doctor was poorly written. All of Jodie Whittaker's episodes apart from Power of the Doctor were so bad. The Timeless Children was without a doubt, the worst ever episode of Doctor Who. Because of it, I passed on Series 13. I recently watched all the 60th anniversary specials and I enjoyed them. The Star Beast was good, not great. Wild Blue Yonder was great. The Giggle was good, and The Church on Ruby Road was surprisingly good. Ncuti Gatwa so far hasn't been too bad as The Doctor, and he has great chemistry with Millie Gibson. When I first heard about Ncuti Gatwa, I thought he could bring something new to Doctor Who. Doctor Who is a TV show that's not for everyone and maybe there are KZfaqrs and people who really don't understand Doctor Who and have to go be negative about it. People are entitled to their own opinion. If you don't like Doctor Who, then don't watch it. Not fair for them to go and call people and fans of Doctor Who "idiots". I am giving new Doctor Ncuti Gatwa a fair chance. Is Doctor Who a show that is worth still worthing? Best watch the new series of Doctor Who on Disney+ and decide for yourself.

I didnt enjoy jodies erra, but i beleived she could of been a great doctor, but chriss chibnal went too big storywise and fell too far. He didnt develop the companions well or the doctor well. They gave the show to someone who writes filler episodes. There were episodes i liked. Paraxius and rosa.

Disappointed I didn't make the list

Honestly thank you so much for addressing this! I have only started watching Doctor Who in 2017 with series 5 (Now I've seen all of NuWho and Classic Who seasons 1-14) And yes, I might be the minority that actually didn't mind the 13th Doctor's era. I don't think it's the best, not at all (Orphan 55 amirite?). But I had fun while watching it regardless! And constantly being called insults on the internet (woke idiot, fake fan etc.) just.. felt bad. I've grown up since then and stopped taking things like that to heart. I just really wish I didn't keep going to god damn Nerdrotic for a review and then feeling like shit afterwards. Either way, I would like to highlight the channels Council of Geeks, WhoCulture and the Confused Adipose. I don't always agree with everything they say, but they never made me feel like shit for liking something XD And they generally stray to the positive, which I just prefer to come back to!

I quite like your views on Doctor Who. It seems like it lines up with my views on the show too. Would love to see more Doctor Who videos from you.

I would love to know who watches Doctor Who for the political content. I never did. If I want politics I will watch the news programmes. I want escapism and always got it until now. I am old enough to have watched from the beginning, and no one watched for the politics, if it was political, we missed that as young children, and rightly so. I am glad you began with the words ‘this is my opinion only’, and now you have mine.

I never understand people going on about DW being woke, sci-fi is inherently progressive and political as a genre and you will struggle to find many pieces of sci-fi media that don't have some political leaning

okay, im trying to be as fair and open minded watching this. But that is made so much more difficult when the reviewer in question only looks at the serface level of these channels without actually listening to the points they have to make. If you actually watch some of these channels, like nerdrotic, and actually listen to their points. Often times they'll point out (like me and many others have) that we don't care what race gender and so on the doctor is, as long as they can do the role justice. Then they'll often go on to discuss the certain issues they have with performance or the episode or the writing. And often times it's fairly constructive. Now, to be fair, i can only speak to the channels I've watched on this list. The others, for all i know, he could have a perfectly valid point on. But as I've not watched those, i can't speak to that. As for people using the "they say doctor who is woke so they don't like it, but it's always been woke" accept, they didn't say that, or at least they didn't if you don't take it severely out of context. What they actually point out is that doctor who, while it used to make political points and would do it with tact and well written, in recent years it's been less tactful and more... Rammed down your throat like trying to force feed roadkill down you until you convince yourself it's tasty to cope. Now credit where it's due, i much prefer Ncuti's season so far to jodie's... But something 10% better then trash, still makes it trash. Even if there's some sugar spinkled on top. I respect your disclaimer at the start, and you are entirely correct. Those are just your opinions and you are most certainly entitled to them. In the same way, these are my thoughts too, and i hope regardless of any difference of opinion we may have here, you can share that same sentiment to mine and others as well.

yeah i noticed a trend of Anti Dr Who, like each video thumb nail is like doom and gloom, and how terrible it is, but nice to find channels that are more positive...i mean there is critizing a moment, and just crapping anything, just trying to find something to focus on, the one thing that only proves the series is on a decline or is preachy, or whatever. The real fans will watch cause they like it...and may not like every episode but still watch it. Like when Doctor 13 came about, called it woke, despite it was long established earlier the Doctor could loook like anyone, even have two head or no head. and 11th's reaction after changing, he thought he was a girl at one moment

I'm just wondering who any of those people are other than Nerdrotic who is infamous for just being terrible

don't be gaslit into thinking everything you said in this wasn't a totally normal response to the videos you've seen. Most people have the same response to the youtubers that you pointed out

I just hate how a lot of people are rage baiting for the views. A lot of these people couldn’t care less about the show and just want people giving them views. I also hate how these videos are making normal people not want to watch the show. A lot of people will hear “doctor who is bad now” and just accept it as a fact.

I’d have to recommend dwfan91 for his good-faith discussions, fair and reasoned criticisms, and general good vibes.

Hey! How come I'M not on the list? :P

On the flipside, we have another great Doctor Who KZfaqr out there: MrTardis, who, beyond doing some great takes on various Doctor Who media, also has fun reacting to terrible Doctor Who KZfaqrs. I wonder if you'd be willing to share a livestream together?

Your opinions are factually correct. I pronounce it to be thus. Oh, except the bit about not liking Series 11 and 12. It's harder to enjoy them, but there's good stuff in there if you focus your mind on it.

My dad's never kept up with Dr Who as such. I showed him a trailer for the Ncuti series, his eyes widened and he said "I'm watching that! When does it start?!" ...HE'S 89 ffs!

Love the vidyah, feel like we don’t see much folks finally criticise these lot. Which is good to see a bit of a rise against these hateful voices. Subscribed!:)

Not sure why this video was recommended to me, but you seem a really likeable guy. I used to love Doctor Who but only made it 20 minutes into her first episode. Adults using the word "fam" bit of a eye roll turn off. Saw the trailer of the new Doctor but the passion is gone, don't think it is for me so not watched any

Every. Single. One. Of these anti-woke channels are the cancer of youtube. And I dont like either side, but my reasoning isnt for any political stance or social stance. I just find it freaking annoying. Its constant bickering and complaining. Then they go and review bomb shit with the same "the message" quote. And i'm sick of seeing that comment every single effing time. It ruins entertainment. People are not allowed to enjoy it, cause they butt into everything. They are the exact same thing they claim to be against.

Haven't they just stopped with the show very recently or is that just me?

Thankyou for making this video. Some of these comments are awful, but you keep it up lad.

I was literally calling out every one of those KZfaqrs before you said them! I agree 100%. I’ve been a fan of Doctor Who since the 70s and I’m an American. Do I like all the new episodes? No. But the show has to attract new audience to survive. It is not “my show“, so I enjoy the episodes that I enjoy, and the ones that I don’t I scratch off my rewatch list.

None of these people pretend or don't know how TV figures work. The broadcast and iPlayer might be down, but it was still the 4th most watch on the first Saturday, so a lot of programmes except Eurovision must have had lower numbers.

I'm all for criticism but being negative for negative's sake is just wrong.

It takes a lot to admit that your views in the past were wrong. Something these KZfaqrs will never do. Hopefully the saddos won't harass you for this video. And if they do, who cares what they think! You're a likeable person who isnt a hateful weirdo, they're just jealous.

I'm curious about the D+ viewing figures

Can you add me to the list next time you do one of these? Pretty pwease? 🥺

the worst ones probably the guy who killed that girl to be fair

Thanks for mentioning the first KZfaqr that you mentioned.

I'm gonna be honest Doctor Who died for me when I saw Jodie Whittakers episodes (Maybe it already begun in Capaldis last season), and no, it was not because of her. I hated the timeless child and it's just another thing which just makes no sense for me, just like the war doctor. I don't understand how some fans actually liking and support this stuff. It just makes the character more and more unnecessarily complicated. Someone, I think it was RTD already said it was difficult to write for Doctor who because the doctor is always the smartest person in the room and knows everything. If I'm looking at the early episodes of classic who that wasn't the case at all. The Doctor was usually just as smart as his companions and most of the questions like "Why he left his home planet" got more simple answers like "He was bored and wanted to explore the universe". Now he is basically became space jesus since David Tennant. The new showrunners ruined Doctor Who. Right now I'm just disappointed with what they're doing with this show. They could do so many things with the show, but instead they always repeat everything.

Wait… we are allowed personal opinions?

You forgot Rabbi and a certain Irishman. The former in particular is I think the worst out there.

Thanks for calling out some of these terrible people

I'll be honest, I'm not the hugest fan of the recent episodes, but people acting like it's the anti-Christ is just stupid. Ncuti needs a bit of time, that's it. So far, I'm all right with it. It's a bit cringe at times, like the Beetles dance number, but Mystro was a great villain. You also shouldn't be insulted just for liking these new episodes. It's just TV, the right-wing love propagating the idea of propaganda whilst loving to enforce their ideas in their work, (literally look at anything made by Daily Wire.) You can't write something without some kind of political bias, and societal cultural differences.

Glad I don’t watch any of these people. They only care about the views not whether Doctor Who is actually good or not.

I can't believe that it's almost a decade since Thirteen's era began.

It's just a grift ‐ there are more views and money in being negative than positive. I don't think (m)any of them actually think the things they say. I certainly hope that they don't!

I hated the Jodi era for the most part , with a few episodes that were good but so far I am loving the new episodes

SO glad you're bringing this up. These negative reviews are spoiling everyone's enjoyment of the show. The new season has been written off by so many and not an episode has been broadcast!!! These arseholes need to just be quiet. I've been a viewer since 63 and I'm loving the change. If you don't like Russell's writing don't tune in. Simple! Enjoy episodes 1 and 2.

Dr who did become bad at the end of Peter Capaldi's eara, still watchable but when jodies eara came in, its bad but there are some barely watchable episodes but now with evidence on Ncuti Gatwas episodes, everyone is quitting doctor who, if you see the official viewing ratings then you see that the viewing figures dropped and now its reached to about 2 million viewers overnight. No doubt that in the cinema releases, it's gonna be lower than 2 million as NOBODY would want to spend extra money to watch something they can watch anytime and watch again without coughing up more of their money.

It's always nice to meet a fan 👍

I occasionally watch some of the videos from these sorts of creators and find them a hilarious watch tbh. great video, man!

I hope you do not mind but part of your very balanced, honest and reflective post really struck a chord with me I so strongly agree with. Not only in context of DW but all aspects of human daily life. Thank you for you video. It is superb. Transcript section... 12:08 you know and that's what I don't 12:10 understand fair enough there are genuine 12:13 people out there in the Doctor Who 12:15 Community who if you did not like the 12:17 jod whiter era which I did not you are 12:20 called racist and sexist but the same 12:23 time there are other people in the 12:26 Doctor Who Community who believe that if 12:29 you do enjoy certain elements of Doctor 12:31 Who then you are woke and you're not a 12:34 true fan and I just think that all of 12:36 this toxicity surrounding the show needs 12:40 to stop we need to start respecting each 12:42 other's opinions Spot on. I did not like Chibnall's era for lots of reasons none of which had to do with a female Doctor. The dialogue from Rose and Donna at the end of the Star Beast was imo a double standard. Yet these are just opinions and the latter just on a two minute section of an episode. I may or may not enjoy the new era. After all we do age and throughout our lives we have our favourite moments and that can include tv shows. Those who enjoy this new era may not like DW if it is screening in another thirty years. To use my favourite line in DW from my personal favourite Doctor, '...."We are all different people all through our lives, and that's okay, that's good. You've got to keep moving so long as you remember all the people that you used to be.' Yet moving forward does not mean you have to like everything but equally one has to accept change and that for others it is a blessing.

He hates everything apparently a fan

there certainly are plenty to choose from

I love the new episodes. What do you think of boom?

"still pulls in impressive viewing figures" That aged well

Great video and don’t let the hate get to you.

Trouble with the Doctor Who fandom these days is a title such as this could be a video made by raging bigots who can't tolerate ordinary fans enjoying the show - or it could be a fair critique of raging bigots! Glad I risked clicking the link!

A have a ton of writing criticisms for the show, and I think it died in 2017, but I don’t really care too much for the “woke” stuff. My criticisms all lie in the writing and the scripts etc. it annoys me that people that only complain about the wokeness get in the way of any actual substantive criticism.

Some of these guys are so sensitive they send their minions into the comments to harass you lol why are people who think they are part of the 'superior race' so sensitive?

I watched this expecting to see my channel here!😆

Bowlestrek's really early, early videos were actually pretty good because he just talked about his love of Doctor Who. DVDs. The Episodes. The actors. And, most importantly, not many views. Then Jodie Whittaker came along and everything changed for Bowlestrek who turned out to be the biggest bigot in the universe. With, sadly, tons of views from narrow-minded tools.

Great video, deserves loads more views.

0:30 ...or Season 40

Thanks for calling out these bigots. It's not a fair argument if you just make antisemitic or racist or transphobic or homophobic comments the entire time.

Will of the fans is one I found I dislike too

Great video mate

Thanks for this. I can't understand spending your life this miserable, and trying to make others as unhappy as they are.

You forgot votesaxon07

I think the show has fallen off a cliff in recent years. The writing has become very poor. I stopped watching after Jodie’s second season and even then I was going weeks or even months at a time between watching episodes. Aside from the poor writing, I think it’s impossible to refute that they’ve gone overboard with divisive identity politics in recent times. The ratings have been declining for a reason.

I clicked on this video by chance and I have to say I agree with everything you say. I've only heard of Nerdrotick however it's spelt. I would have included the Rabbi to be honest. I'm a trans woman and I know plenty of people out there hate everything about me (and they're entitled to their views), but as great as it was to have recognition and representation I think the trans element in the 60th specials were a bit clumsy and over the top. I don't enjoy the Chibnall era but it's not because of Jodie, it came down to the writing for me. When Ncuti was announced I checked out Sex Education and for a supporting actor he stole every scene, I'm overjoyed that he's the Doctor because he's a fantastic actor.

no idea why i was recommended this (never really got into dw) or why i watched it in full but good on you for calling these people out. really sorry your comments are filled with pretty hateful people

If they have come to despise Doctor Who, I wish they would just go watch some old Roseanne reruns while listening to Horst Wessel Lied, and leave the rest of us to enjoy the new series.

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Guys, if you agree with him, make sure to like this video!

Great vid

1: all of them

Love the video but you need a better intro mate lmfao 😅

The viewing figures had nothing to do with race. The main complaint that is deterring viewers is the writing.

I really don't think their fans to begin with. Not in the your different so you aren't a true fan, but in the I've seen your content enough and seen people who actually enjoy the show or know what their talking about to see you don’t actually care enough to be a fan of the show. You're only talking about it because its becoming more present in media again and too many people keep giving you the benefit of the doubt. Playing on one of the fundamental teachings of the show itself inorder to get away with it, then go convince people who are openly trusting to just warp them until they become the opposite of what they enjoyed so much in the first place. Open brainwashing through sheer hate. These 'creators' are daleks with cybermen worth ethics.

Admittedly the Star beast was pretty bad. And in all fairness 2023s Christmas special has been rated by critics and fans as one of the worst Christmas special’s in the shows history. The ratings just aren’t good at the moment. They are better than the chibnal eras ratings, but that’s not really saying anything.

The writing is Shiite, anyone saying it was dead was correct. The writing is Shiite. And this is the worst Dr. Who channel

Is Mr Tardis on this list?

Oh and the figures in 1979 City of Death 14.5 million and new who's last episode 2.2 million. Really its not wokism thats killing Dr Who its poor writing and dialogue. Really its why when you look to Transformers the movie 1986 its memorable and has characters you care about in comparison Transformers rise of the beasts has nothing memorable and the bloated use of CGI makes it look as bad the Michael bay visual diarrhea as all but stand out bumblebee movie have the same terrible dialogue and nonsensical plots. Really not since Matt Smith has Dr Who looked good or had a clear sense of self and especially now we have Disney Who it looks as Tedious as Secret Invasion with Stilted Dialogue like Echo.

spot on mate

Heelsbabyface is an awful person

I accidentally clicked on a Disparu video. After he read a line with "straight white men" in it, he did an aside, "AKA normal people."I admit, I'm not normal. I have red hair and blue eye. That's less than .5% of the population. Oh, and I'm also trans, but there are more trans than the other, so he must be talking about my ginger blue...

You seem like a nice person