S-ranking DMC2 is the REAL ultimate DMC challenge. You have to overcome broken combat instead of difficulty.

I don't get why they gave Dante a coin in DMC2, but it led to a neat moment in Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne of all things. In that game, Dante offers to join your party for a price and has you call a coin flip. If he wins, he'll charge you all the money you have, and if you win, he'll only charge you a single macca. If you've played DMC2 and know that his coin is double-sided, you're guaranteed to get him basically for free. If you haven't, then you have to guess since nothing in the game itself ever hints that it's a trick coin, even after the coin flip.

Most people give DMC2 crap which is understandable, but without DMC2 there wouldn't be DMC3 P.S Dante's Majin Devil Trigger design still goes hard

Really appreciate the shoutout for my DMC2 DE Mod video J, had a literal spittake

When I first played mission 5 in DMC 2 and met the infested chopper, I didn't know it was supposed to be a chase sequence and that I had to run away from the chopper and fight it on top of the tower. What ended up happening was me spending an HOUR just firing my guns at the chopper, only for it to quickly disappear into the sky each time Its health reached zero. I unintentionally did the chopper boss fight three times and made the mission longer than it was. When I reached the tower and realized my mistake, that's when I learned this game was trash.

Not even close to “the worst game ever”. And in a series retrospective, this game was necessary. Basically created TRICKSTER and the team that would go on to make DMC3. DMC3 being the game that defined 4 and 5 on tone. If anything, playing 2 and knowing about S ranking, it makes me glad that those people who played 1 mission and clipped in saying “guns OP” were actually D rank players. Cause guns are basically used to open up trash enemies and keep your rank alive.

It's a shame Lucia happened to stem from this of all DMC games. She could really shine with her potential if she ever got to appear in another DMC game. It was neat though that she showed up in one of the DMC5 tie-in comics.

I noticed this was the same intro you did for Mega Man X7

Dude, seriously? Again? Same day???? And we both quit at mission 14 that's hilarious. Are we connected?

Actually dmc 2 wasn't that bad for me when i played it as a kid, mainly because it was the first Devil May cry that i played so i didn't know any better at the time and i had so much fun playing it, but after finishing it and playing the other dmc games i can never play it again😂! The first experience was great tho.

I love how the intro of you reading the manual is a reference to your intro of your Mega Man X7 retrospective.

Mega Man X7 Review reference right off the bat, I'm sold.

The worst part os that dmc2 has the coolest looking dante. Also the false coin line is fucking dope.

It’s funny this game is considered to be so bad because it was one of the first ps2 games I ever played. the graphics and enemy designs wowed me as a kid.

This game needs a remake so bad

It's really unfortunate that DMC2 ended up as rough as it did. It has, and I go on record saying this, the coolest looking Dante in the entire franchise in my opinion. His look in DMC2 is top notch. This was another instance of me using "X3 Syndrome" when referring to a game (ironically in the context of another Capcom IP), when a game has a lot of really cool ideas on paper but the execution was so assbackwards it makes it significantly difficult to enjoy. I know DMC1 was a tough act to follow but still, this was a messy follow up.

This game sure grew worse for me as the years went on. I would rather play the Reboot game than this one - which I find overhated and not as exaggerating-ly bad as its made out to be. Devil May Cry 2 is not the worst game ever made, but its a really bad Devil May Cry installment. If Capcom ever gives Devil May Cry 1 or 2 a remake someday like they do Resident Evil. Please redeem Devil May Cry 2 because this games ideas could sure use a full retooling...

Why does Dante look like a vampire in the original PS2 version's box art? I'm referring to how he looks rather pale and his eyes are red. It's so strange, especially since every version of that artwork since has Dante looking normal. It could probably just be a weird filter.

i love that the villain never even checks the coin to ensure its the very specific, one of a kind coin he needs. no he just trusts that the enemy gave him the right coin.

Sooooo... gameplay aside, I guess I'm the only one who likes DMC2 Dante huh? I believe DMC1 and anime Dante had the best balance of seriousness and sassyness. DMC3 onwards, Dante is too much of a goofball imo. Really liked his more serious demeanor in this game, didn't find him boring at all.

0:55 house were the only notable Ls Capcom took in 2003: there was Dino Crisis 3, Mega Man Battle Network 4, and the GBA version of Mega Man & Bass

DMC2 is a lesson on how not bring in a new team who knows nothing about an established series to work on it and not having the OG around.

Can't wait to see your retrospective video of DMC3. If I remember correctly it was Devil May Cry 2 that got me to play Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence. I bought a copy of DM2 and finished Disc 1/Dante's Missions in just 1 or 2 days. The next day I found out Disc 2/Lucia's Missions won't boot up so I returned to the game store and, fortunately, they agreed to exchange it with MGS3: Subsistence.

It’s been 20 years and I’m still not over the fact that the reward for beating DMC2 is essentially the ability to play DMC1. Just play the better game you probably already own. It’s surreal

Dante in this game reminds me of deadpool from x-men origins "Hey this character who's usually just fine talking plenty? Yeah no shut him up it'll make him cooler." it did not.

Can't be as bad as: Superman 64 Aquaman on Gamecube Batman Forever on the original Gameboy (terrible SNES game ported with fewer buttons to use) Lester the Unlikely Conan the Barbarian (NES) The Rocketeer (SNES) Cheetahmen (Mega Drive/Genesis)

"pls plae deemc2" they said 😔

This was my first Devil May Cry game and I played it when I was 12 and I absolutely loved it. I was blown away by it since i never played an over-the-top game like this in my life.

Under The Mayo also dropped a video about DMC2 today.

1:11 the way you slung the demon to the cameraman made me laugh!

This other theory comes to mind when you just explained the strangeness with the Sonic system that makes it more believable to me they didn't know how to program a character switching mechanic so they decide oh we'll just switch discs to make that work! This is seriously a good example of everybody's a rookie on your dev team possibilities

I really hope Lucia comes back in DMC6. I'd love to see her and Nero become demon-hunting partners. Maybe a DLC that focuses on Vie de Marli?

I know literally nothing about the Devil May Cry series, but it was a neat video lol

I had a friend who was super big into the series since the demo for 1 first dropped. Played through the first one on every difficulty and I had many tales of watching them get frustrated but eventually coming through. Come release day for DmC2 and we've been hyped for awhile, went back to his place and fired it up. I headed home after the first 3 or 4 missions thinking maybe it was just slowly gearing up. Go to hang out a few days later and mysterious silence about the game, bring it up and get "yeah you want to borrow it? I beat it already." Point out I'm trash at the first game but was told that won't be an issue. Take it home and yeah very much experienced all the disappointment first hand, finished it over the course of a day or two and it just felt wrong the entire time.

I'll never forget playing 30 minutes of the game just to experience why this game was so bad when I bought the HD collection. I decided to keep playing and to my utter shock I finished the game in 2 hours and 45 minutes. Would have been faster but Dante decided to walk for no reason during a segment where I needed to get to a door before it closed. Also the forced lock on I didn't know I could disable preventing me from hitting some switches.

I love these short, sub hour long ultimate retrospectives. Who needs an eight hour long in depth breakdown and analysis?

Can't believe the slow speed, the area emptiness, the slower enemy and the tedious attack are shared with Megaman X7 like it can't be a coincidence

Wow, J you convinced me yet again that another game I would otherwise think was meh is awful. For real, that takes talent man. It is one hell of a miracle DMC even became a franchise after this. We can only attribute that to the success of the first game, not really the second.

The art design for DMC2 is actually kind of cool

I am not a huge fan of this game. I only played it once, but I do not think it deserves all the hate it got. I played it when new. I got the greatest hits version of one and loved it. Saw two on the shelf soon after was just happy to be playing as Dante again.

The same day as under the mayo

are you still going to make that video where you talk about mega man x7's improvement mod?

24:12 "SAD" that perfectly explains this game

I think Itsuno and his team should remake DMC2, it’s the only real stain on his reputation despite it not being his fault.

DMC2 was actually one of my very first PS2 games ever since the day I got my first one clear back somewhere in early middle school or so. (Brain's a bit fuzzy on exact dates at this point in time.) Was excited because it was the first of the DMC games I could get a hold of at the time while also wanting to play the first one really bad myself but not having a means to get a hold of it for a while yet still, and while nowadays I can see what's up with the details of the game's history & whatnot, I'm almost a bit thankful I got to play that one first before the others since it just meant everything was gonna be going up from there as I got to play more of em later on down the line in my life. Tbh, if Capcom has the brass for doing it again, might as well give 2 a full remaster/remake treatment and have it become what the original hopes for 2 couldn't be & then taking it even further beyond somehow.

Every dmc game has a purpose and were necessary sort of like a canon event

Man, dmc2 was my first DMC. Was so blown away why people hated it… got the first DMC as fast as a could cause of how much I loved Dmc2. One level in and was like “oh that’s why people hate 2”

this upload couldnt have come at a better time! i just finished this game yesterday and the first thing i said was "i dont think i will EVER pick this game up again." its not the worst game ever i guess, but if it wasnt a dmc title i would have never given it the courtesy of completing the whole game. it was just a drag to get through.

I kind of hope they bring back Lu'Cia some day to try and redeem something from this game. 4 did the story of a human trying to gain the power of demons as well and showed that story can work in DMC. Just, leave the underwater combat behind.

Honestly when I got to the infested tanks and infested chopper, I almost stopped playing. I thought "There's no way these enemies were made for this game", I assumed they were just leftover assets Capcom had on hand and they just thought 'yeah put it in DMC'

The most hilarious experience I had was buying a DMC2 strategy guide at a local Wal-Mart (mostly for the poster) and being "carded" for it at the register. (I'm not kidding)

DMC2 is still, to this day, the only DMC game I have platinumed, for the sole reason that I would never have a reason to play it ever again.

I have a video idea recommendation for the future: Can you do a retrospective on the silent Hill games?

12:57 I wonder if thats where Sonic Team got the idea for making the Sonic Boom move in Frontiers OP as all hell. I know I said upon first seeing combat in Frontiers showing off the possibilities of air juggle, come a DMC styled combat system! But taking from DMC2 was not what I had in mind. Talk about a total Monkey's Paw moment 😆😅

King? Yeah! Here's your crown. Still the coolest thing ever. Second coolest thing is the last moment of the last boss fight when the boss looks around confused and suddenly Dante holds his guns to his head, strikes a cool pose and shoots. Sadly these awesome moments got wasted in a bad and boring game.

Devil may 2 could’ve been the death of the franchise but then we got devil may cry 3 and it was saved we could not have been the same without the franchise and I happy for them to save the franchise with devil may cry 3

If you think DMC2 is a bad Capcom game, then you haven't played Chaos Legion mad by the same team.

Fun fact, a year ago my best friend was making an essay for his class about the History of how Hack and Slash Video Games started and evolved over time, he finished DMC1 awhile ago and hadn't touched much of DMC2 since he was saving it for a livestream with a friend of his that wanted to see him play DMC2, so he told me of his entire journey, and I told him DMC2 sucked and I literally quit the game on the third Mission and went directly to DMC3, and told him to skip DMC2 and go to 3, he was surprised to hear that but didn't expect it to be that bad and that maybe it's just DMC1 but slightly worse. Fast forward days later and he comes to my house to try out the DMC Collection, he started with DMC2 and felt the game was... off in some way, I explained to him why (mainly the combat being slow and not that satisfying feeling), and he thought it was similar to how DMC1 did it, so it wasn't that bad (he was going off on a semi distant memory of DMC1's gameplay). Then after beating DMC2's first boss he went to DMC1, and BOY did he immediately notice DMC1's combat felt so much better than DMC2's, he was now starting to get how much of a difference it was and how DMC2 just wasn't good; and then he tried out DMC3 in the end, and that one blew his mind off (in a good way, lol) to the point that he now said "Yeah no, DMC2 sucks, there's no way around it. I am no longer livestreaming DMC2 with my friend, I am going for DMC3 right away."

Should I get the Dmc HD edition? I only played dmc 5 so far which I loved and I want to get into the rest of the series!

DMC fans: ThE ReEbOoT iS tHe WoRsT DmC GaMe eVeR! Yeah. Clearly you never heard of DMC 2.

The only thing I like about this game is the fact that the red orbs looks like Behelits

I think DMC2 needs a remake or the OG game needs a improve overhaul rebalance special edition, Improve the combat and gameplay, Add in boss intros or flavor text and cutscene introductions to the other bosses or mini ones.

What is goddamn coincidence you and Underthemayo is not only reviewing the same two games but upload the vid on the same day, aye J be honest, you doing this on purpose with the upload timing? 😆

I just realized I have never heard anyone pronounce Jokatgulm in my entire life

Are you and Under the Mayo planning these dmc2 releases?

Firstly, I love your new video release motto. I think it leads series to breath and keep you motivated. Secondly, this is probably the best review of DMC2 I have seen. Since you also have experience with the high level tech. One thing I personally love about DMC2 is the enemy designs and the concept art. Especially the wolf ice boss (I gave up at mission 5)

Fun Fact: SMT Nocturne's famous maniax release on the PS2 has the Dante from this game in it, and if you remembered the coin was the same on each side you can get him as a party member for 1 Macca, whereas if you guess wrong you'll have to pay 1 million to get him. Not only that, he actually behaves like the Dante we all know and love.

Besides the fish one cracked me up really bad for no reason

Did not know about the mod, but I'm now interesting in checking it out, if only to see what someone can do with the game to change it onto something more polished, refined, maybe even... BETTER? Than it currently is. So thanks for the tip!

My second favorite dmc2 gamer/KZfaqr

Duuude you and Mayo need to collab for DMC3.

The best MC in DMC 2 and in general Lucia She's dark skin has the diesel drip dual weilds assasin style has sick choreography,under the radar combo's and infinite's Shes a dark skin Red head that has an Angelic DT she got that before Nero,can do spinning bird kicks.Why is she not on a Next gen console yet ????????????

8:55 I got every achievement in dmc2 and never knew this was a thing lol.

If you play bad at this game and go to the ranking system, you Can see DAD or DADDS in the ranking. So wheres ma papa?

Everyone knows Dante got to the oil rig via the motorcycle. That things legit. Ps Uroboros on the heli makes me think of re5

I was bored one summer and beat dmc2 with a fresh game on dmd mode. It made it kinda of fun.

To be fair, Vendetta looks pretty cool making it the best sword

Were fans really upset Trish wasn't playable in DMC 1? The only time I hear this is when 2 is discussed.

Whilst this game blows, At least it soundtrack Bangs.

These are the types of games that lend themselves perfectly for a remake. Dmc2 is a bad game but it's designs, style and esthetics are beyond sharp, it deserves new shot.

Trish is also completely OP. You can unlock her by winning on hard mode and then blaze through the highest difficulty even more easily than the game on normal mode.

Finally, we get to this point. Can't express the amount of time I feel I've been waiting for these re-restrospectives since watching the Jak and Uncharted ones.

Things always go south when someone working on these titles doesn't understand Dante's appeal and decides to change his personality. And history will repeat itself years later with the DmC reboot.

Does anyone know about a 3D ghosts n goblins spinoff series called Maximo? Those two games are underrated.

binging your videos is getting me through the work day today

Excited for your dmc3 video

3:49 Plankton's reference lmao

DMC2 was so bad! Not even playable Trish could save it.

I sometimes find myself compelled to replay DMC2 cuz I've played it the least, but I never get around to it cuz even watching paint dry is way more satisfying. It's a shame, too, cuz Lucia has a cool design despite being characterized as "diet Trish".

35:00 there i am gary there i am

compared to drake of the 99 dragons, dmc 2 looks masterpiece.

*Complains at Lucia's dagger attack being slow. Vergil is slower with his, yet no one complains* Huh...

Honestly I will revisit this game from time to time because I love Lucia and think she's so underrated! But the game itself is a big bag of MEH sadly! I'm going to check out that mod though that looks great!!!

I still don't love it, but I have to admit, the game has grown a lot to deserve redemption, especially in its timeline placement. Anyways, the DMC reboot is nowadays the most hated.

A month ago I downloaded the DMC HD Collection and finally got to play those games for the very first time, after watching countless videos and speed runs on DMC. Every game vastly exceeded my expectations. DMC1: Banger, DMC 2: Trash, DMC 3: Goated

Well yeah is without a doubt one of capcom titles of 2003 which I wouldn't call a quality year for the most part, DMC2 could be a good game but it show what happen when crunch and lack of managment can cause the game is only devil may cry in name in many cases and feel very disjoined in about anything

Ima put my take on it, if you don’t try it’s boring if you do try *it’s a pain in the ass to fucking sit through*

DMC2 definitive edition sounds 🔥 I'll have to track it down.

as a person who enjoyed DMC 2, I can confirm it is a bad DMC game

I started with dmc 2. And there were aspects about the controls that made it impossible for me to enjoy dmc 1.