Is it just me, or is it whenever Namor goes, "Nah, bruh. That's a horrible idea." he is always right?

Funny that out of all the members of the Marvel's Illuminati, Namor is the most rational.

I think Namor saw himself in the Hulks position, Hulk was seen as a “force of nature” by them, not just a friend or a person, a “thing” they were afraid of. So if Namor agreed that something needed to be done about Hulk, what about HIM having control over the seas??- literally a portion of the earth? Will the next “secret meeting” be about HIM?🤔

I still pretty salty they didn't do planet hulk. Like that's one of the greatest stories I ever read . You could really feel hulks pain

Just like two corrections I have: 1.) Mr Fantastic using "I" statements isn't cause of individuality it's because of the Gems power over someone and the fact they make you omnipotent that's causing him to be like that. It's even proven later when he almost refuses to give up the gauntlet 2.) They didn't just send Hulk into space their plan was to send him to a peaceful lush uninhabited world but a wormhole opened up and shat him out on Sakaar

Sorry, but it's actually a million. The Sentry has the power of a million exploding suns. Which is (for those who may not know) VERY FREAKING POWERFUL.

this is one of those things where Iron Man was CORRECT but Namor was right.

Half of the Illuminati are some of Hulk's oldest friends, although Namor is the only one that acts like it. The original Defenders (add Silver Surfer).

26:30 Medusa wasn’t called because of the skrull thing, that was resolved. She was called because Black Bolt was presumed dead following the War of Kings and she had assumed responsibility for his affairs, like him being the leader of the Kree, King of Attilan, and a member of the Illuminati. Great video btw!

Interestingly, in an alternate universe (Earth-976) there exists a successful version of The Illuminati. In "Dark Reign: Fantastic Four" issue 3, the group members are Iron Man, Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Doom, Magneto, Black Bolt, and Namor. They successfully managed to pass and implement both the Superhuman Registration Act and the Initiative program peacefully. The successful and peaceful passage and implementation of these measures brings about world peace. It seems like having Dr. Doom and Magneto in the group (instead of Dr. Strange and Professor X) made the difference. I wish they'd make a whole comic about this version of The Illuminati. I'd like to see how they managed to succeed, where the Illuminati of this universe (Earth-616) failed.

Tony: _"I am Ironman, of The Avengers." 🤖_ Prof. X: _"I am Professor Charles Xavier, representing for mutantkind."_ 👨‍🦼 Dr. Strange: _"I am Doctor Stephen Strange - Sorcerer Supreme & Master of the Mystic Arts." 🧙🏻✨️_ Namor: _"I am Prince Namor, Ruler of Atlantis." 🌊🧜🏻‍♂️_ Mr. Fantastic: _"And I am Doctor Reed Richards, of The Fantastic Four." 4️⃣_ Black Bolt: _"🤐" 🤫_

“Sent daredevil to look into the case” hahaha that was so good. 😭💀

More harm than good? Well they certainly are responsible for a ridiculous amount of problems. It's impossible to know though what sort of problems would have come about if they hadn't taken such actions.

This group seems like all it does is make things worse.

WHAT! The Beyonder is a Inhuman AND a mutant! Holy s#@%!

I LOVED when morbius showed up in Doctor Strange 2

IIRC, Cap, a better example of the common man, was at there at the first, but objected to the overreach, before Prof X wiped his memory of that meeting. Iron Man probably represents the power weilded by the USA's military industrial complex. Cap was empwered by the MICi, but he was the power of a free man at the height of human perfection. Ironically, he becomes what Hitler dreamed the Aryans could become: Nietzsche's Ubermench.

They are literally villains. It doesn’t matter if they are made up of heroes. They perform only bad deeds to achieve good goals. That is what villains do.

Namor represents Anti Heroes too. Pretty appropriate considering he is the first

For as much bad they illuminatli did, They made up with it in the Incursions. That would break lesser men facing all those threats with all of them playing a part in saving 616 till the end. Doom is MVP but frankly was lucky the Beyonders power bonded to him.

Who does Spider-Man think is the strongest? Sentry? Silver Surfer? Gladiator? Who?

Explains why they were so useless in Multiverse of Madness. Cause they weren't the good guys.

It's really never a good idea to put the most paranoid ppl in a group

5:25 the fact that Namor of all people opposes the idea of sending hulk away is beyond strange. Cuz you’d think he’d agree cuz of the harm Hulk would be beneficial to his people but wow I’m genuinely surprised he opposed. Him a power hungry king who wants to take over the surface world.

If you played Call of Duty Zombies WaW, Black Ops 1, 2, 3, and 4 then you know it's the same energy as Marvel's Illuminati

6:06 when the Greek pantheon Atlantian agrees with T'challa [his rival] you know, you versauen.

I was a bit disappointed with the MCU depiction of the Illuminati, but oh well, I hope we get an updated version later on

Good is amazing but man some of the things they have decided was dark but had to be done.

The Iron Man represents the common folk? LMFAO

Namor sounds like he is smarter than the rest combined realising how dumb a lot of those things are

Tldr ver.; rather than solving world hunger or poverty they prefer to throw one of the most powerful being to another planet

If sentry has the power of a million exploding suns, him almost destroying Manhattan was nothing compared to his full potential. If our sun were to go supernova it would decimate everything in the solar system and even affect planets on other stars 100 light years away. Sentry could do that with a millionth of his power.

20:19 thats what she said

I'm sorry, but Iron Man represents the common man? Dude is a one percenter.

I never liked this team in the Dark Reign era. The Cabal? Yes!

In terms of powers and influence these 7 are basically justice league of Marvel

After the MCU introduces the fantastic 4, x men, Atlantans and inhumans this can be a great storyline to explore and the Kree and Skrulls have already been introduced in Captain Marvel. They make for prime intergalactic threat that can span multiple heroes and groups

I blasted put laughing BRUH “StAnGE SmAsH” Wtf was that?! 🤣

I think Dcs version of the illuminati would comprise of batman, lex Luther, Dr fate, Orion and a member of the guardians

Great great great summary!

I enjoy BMB's stories, but I always forget how much he ignores established Marvel history to do what he wants. The Infinity Gems don't call out to each other. A bunch of Elders held meetings together, several of them with gems, and none of them noticed it. Thanos had to contemplate in the Well of Reality to find them all. Not only that, but Thanos, AFTER wielding the Gauntlet, wasn't able to use the Reality Gem without the others to control it. Finally, the 'Infinity Gauntlet' doesn't do a darned thing, except make a convenient way to hold the gems. I always wonder why Stark isn't spending life in prison about now. While you can't hold him legally responsible for things like invading the Skrull Empire and helping them determine how to pull off the Secret invasion, but he's committed crimes from Perjury to Congress to Espionage, Treason, acts of war, and Capitol Murder (multiple counts).

The Illuminati is a group of Oligarchs who try to rule the actions of superheroes and fail enormously? Who could have guessed. :D

One of the few Bendis ideas/stories that I liked through & through; besides Ultimate Spidey

I love that theirs an Encyclopedia Britannica thing about the Illuminati on this video because KZfaq thinks this is a conspiracy theory video lmao, KZfaq is a wack website

Not sure if I missed it but I thought the illuminati were revealed during ww hulk? Then during the skrull invasion cap doesn't know. What happened?

Rich people group. Kenny McCormick isn't allowed to join because he's poor.

No representation for the Eternals.

They think they're smarter than everyone else. But pissing off The Hulk is very stupid.

Stark super genius analysis mansplaing how it’s all gonna go down is just brilliant writing. And that bit about Spider-Man being the one the government makes an example of is so spot on it hurts. That is definitely how it would play out because even within the Marvel universe, Spider-Man is the most recognizable hero. People actually see him more because he’s a street level hero. They’d see him every day. He’d be the *PERFECT* sacrificial lamb to slaughter in front of the masses to prove yourself and political point.

"Iron Man is analog for common man." Billionaire play-boy superhero with firepower of a small country represents common people?

What all marvel storylines did this video cover? Just wondering so I can read them myself

I was cheering for Hulk during the whole World War Saga. Tony and Reed should've gotten a lot more punishment. A lot more.

Ayyyy didn't get my notifs earlierrr

They did a lot I missed some of it. Why does the Watcher look like the Kingpin in a cape?🤔

Who should we invite to this super secret super important think tank? How about a guy who if he speaks could destroy us all! Guess they aren’t as smart as they think they are…

Who is disappointed about the illuminati in MOM

The Illuminati worst hero group ever lol 😆

Mr fantastic leader of the Illuminati implants Beast with a Chip

Is this all in Illuminati 1 comics? Or do I have to buy another comics just to read it all?

Love these videos

Wrong sentry din't unleash his full strength he just fought hulk on the hulk's terms that is fist fighting.

In the new Dr Strange movie, they did a poor job of Black Bolt. He is defeated so easily, and he’s out of the movie within 10mins of seeing him.

Sure you can certainly call whatever happened in multiverse of madness a debut. You would be wrong but you can call it that.

Black Bolt was a Skrull. That's why Hulk beat him.

Oh Skroll ... I thought he said squirrel

Namor knew the hulk would come back to bite them in the ass😊

It’s crazy how so many smart people can be in one room and do some of the dumbest 💩 in Marvel history 🤦‍♂️

Who did Mr. Fantastic sacrifice to get the Soul Stone? Do we want to know?

This group is terrible lol

Wait, where is this comic strip taken from? Cos that Professor X is a dead ringer for Patrick Stewart 😀

I love how the Tolkien evil anti hero team mate was the guy who had issues with their plans morality. Namor is pretty ends justify the means if he thinks your plan really crosses some lines or its moronic and going to blow up in your face big time

expecting anything good from post-endgame marvel is a fool's errand

Ironman:"I'm a futurist! So let me tell you what is gonna happen, some 'person' will make a mistake and get a lot of people hurt trying to help, something NONE OF US IN THIS ROOM have eeeeever done before! Huh? Ignore the dozens of times my tech was stolen or given away and did that to normal civilians or your people Xavier. Then the news will see and play it over and over again, and some (Iron-)man may see that and go 'Let's make an example out of some big hero like Spider-man so I can get some clout!' and force him to unmask live on tv, maybe get his aunt killed, ruin his life and marriage by having him sell it to the devil to save his dying elderly aunt, and everyone is going to hate me but at least I'll win in the end... That's the future Namor!" Namor:".. I'm out." Dr. Strange:"Ya no, that's an awful idea Tony, I'm leaving too and never call me again." Reed:"I thought it was a great idea, especially because it will make my wife hate me even more for the rest of our lives...I'm the smartest man in the world you know." I can't believe the people who wrote that comic basically had Tony outline the worse case event that could happen if they DIDN'T do his plan, even specifically mentioning Spider-man in it getting unmasked, only for him to later be the person enacting that worse case event himself for the exact same reasons he said were bad. The illuminate has been and always will be the shittiest super hero group ever, of all time.

Wait. Black bolt took out a spaceship? A dude who's power is sound waves can do that in space? Im gonna take that as him being obnoxiously powerful and can make sound travel through a vacuum instead of a just silly writing mistake

That illuminati group breaks up more than me with my toxic GF lol

I don't know why but the Illuminati remind me of the light from young justice

Sure it's not the bilderberg group ?🤔

Why do the colors keep changing for the gems?

Blue Marvel whooped Sentry’s butt in 60 seconds

Seems to me kick off Reed and it'll be much better. For one of the smartest men alive a lot of serious problems in Marvel seem to start with Reed did something stupid.

Sure you are right :)

I love the Illuminati in Marvel. Just a bunch of massive egos making bad decisions. Nothing beats starting up the group and then getting captured and tortured on their first mission. Hilarious stuff.

Yo bro your voice made this video interesting lol

For me they are the best team

I want a movie on sentry but done right. I want marvel to show Dc how to represent a superman like character

You sound like the guy from The Roundtable

Why namor? And i don't even know who is black bolt.

Heard a couple of yawns lol

Sadly, Tony was right about the SRA.

Little did iron man know he'd be the one to instigate the whole Civil War.

Did you just pronounce the t in debut?

It's morbin time

This is great Contin. I hate to be that guy but I couldn’t even get halfway through the video. The way every sentence starts and ends in the same way in terms of tone was driving me crazy.

Still less villainous than The Inhumans

I feel like what happened to sentry’s memories in the comics will happen to peter Parker in the mcu

So interesting

Namor seems pretty reasonable.

Seems like a bunch of smart dudes making a bunch of dumb decisions.

You hate namor, but you love namor. How.

Iron man being the common man while being billionaire is crazy