~ You won't look back!

​@@rubytuesday5412 If you don't look back you can't look to the future History can't be erased as much as you try

@@user-py1pm3dq6r ~ r/woosh.

I was just thinking about The Holly and the Ivy. I’m a fan!

Me too, I’ve been looking for this film for years.

There are a few radio plays of that on YT. Not the same I know.

I never heard of that movie I looked it up and now I have to see it.

How very much I envy your seeing her then in 1968…my appreciation alas was very far in lack of development and had I in that year been asked if what I knew of her film and stage attainments I bet I’d have been sore put to say anything more than her minuscule and somewhat sad rôle in the 1940s film Holiday Camp, and I feel pretty ashamed too, damn it! Later, I would marvel at a film clip of her Queen Elizabeth I’s Tilbury speech against the approaching Armada…Magnificent!

I think I saw her in "The Importance of Being Ernest" at The Haymarket also in 1968.

She was my father's cousin . He was a real Northumberland Robson

Most of the population back then were living in Victorian hovels, on tiny incomes: they had no reason to be 'Rupert Brook-ish' and romantic about the countryside and the fine houses that they never had the opportunity to experience. After the war's end, they had to spend decades paying for it.

Are you under the delusion that in the 1940s most English people lived in cosy rural homes? Even then (and well before then) most Britishers lived in in smoky cities, cramped stream-built houses etc. Don't be deceived by roamticised, and atypical, movies.

@@nicholasreid1836 many British say same things. We understand the sentiment.

It isn't just that that ruined England. So woke.

Amen to your appreciation, my thanks too to those who have most thoughtfully and generously made this treasure of a film with Valéry Hobson available for our viewing. Thanks a million!

Valerie Hobson stayed with the pathetic figure Profumo of the "Profumo Affair" and set aside her own self interests despite her career and stayed beside him allthrough his years out in the "wilderness so to speak as a person "non grata" until recognised for devotung himself to a life of "good works" until finally recognised by the socalled "establisment"

@Janitor Queen “Sniveling”? It’s pretty serious for those who’ve lost their livelihoods.

Two different countries of course Not comparing Not at all Just stating a fact

I've wondered that myself, many times.

🎇 HYPOCRISY 🎇 Profumo lied to the House of Commons but the full moral fury over this rather sordid and silly affair fell on Stephen Ward who took an overdose of sleeping pills. To her credit Valerie stood by her husband but Stephen Ward took the fall.

Read about 45 Cranley Drive and the Soviet spies.

@@allegra0 Valerie's real life situation would be an echo of Diana's situation in this film only 17 years later. Just as Diana sacrificed personal happiness to stand by her returning war hero husband, so Valerie sacrificed it to stand by John Profumo after his fall from grace. She gave up her life on film and the stage when she married Profumo, and replaced them with a different kind of stage, that of a political wife. After the scandal broke, their life as a glittering couple, the War Minister and his glamorous wife, was over. She had lost all her public performing arenas. Profumo found his charity work rewarding and, I've read, even got a new mistress and a flat in London. Valerie lived a more lonely, isolated life in the country. Her first husband, Anthony Havelock Allen, visited her and Winston Churchill and the Queen Mother still had the Profumos to dinner. Within several years, Profumo was given a knighthood by the Queen and visits to Buckingham Palace resumed, signaling his redemption, but things were never the same.

@@lemorab1 Mrs. Windsor did not give Profumo a knighthood, she merely acted out directive given by those who dish out such spurious honours.

@MTknitter22 As we once were i.e. being bombed by Nazis?

Not sure how they screened this House of Commons setting…given that the Westminster Parliament was bombed and largely destroyed in the 1940 war years, and this film setting after the war was over and Westminster rebuilt or at least repaired - and much changed I believe in interior style.

She could stand in for Deborah Kerr.

@varianreeves7553 What's the ending in the book please? I'm a film-watcher not a bookworm.

Yes, but terribly plausible sorrow at the beginning (I can assure you), then the slow recovery when the will to live comes back, and that part about women in politics, and the "nothing will be the same again" after the war - very interesting, and superior acting by Valerie Hobson.

Well there"s Valerie .Ducie, Jimmy and Flora if that helps

@@williamf4544... oohhh, thank you... I like VALERIE Bertinelli! Is that Paul DUCIE ("Black Neon") or DUCIE John ("Three Way Split")? JIMMY Stewart!? Everyone loves Jimmy Stewart! and that's FLORA Montgomery!? Loved her as Jenny Lind! Thank you!

I hope your not being sarcastic@@arts7867

Sentimental?. OK. It was wartime. But, creepy?

@None-zc5vg He was an opinionated oaf.

No, this is Flora Robson as Nanny. National Velvet's mom was played by Anne Revere.

Maybe it's just his British style.

All movies deal in stereotypes and generalities. But " servants" do become friends, and in many relationships they care about each other very much, become family. I began as a babysitter, met the girl when she was pregnant, kept her babies. We became close friends. 30 years later, they spent nights, weekends, vacations with us. The kids are like our shared children. They're lifelong friends now. As a child we had a babysitter, maid, cook, sweet older lady. We loved her, she loved us. She wasn't some " servant" she became so much more.

It all started to go wrong in the sixties - I still remember the day out parlour maid asked for a weekend of during the grouse season - Of course we nipped that in the bud right away - To be fair she soon realised how unreasonable she was being once it was pointed out to her that her day of was a Tuesday .Most people started to have problems with their staff in the sixties and things just kept going downhill from then on . We were lucky - our parlour made is 97 now and still gets up at 6am to make a start on the house work .I dread to think what we will do if anything should happen to her .

Funny novels about English and society during Regency and Victorian years were were written by “ Marion Cheney”. Many points of view included those in service and they had their own fun and challenges. Many considered part of the family and the house keeper and Head Butler were powerful in the house. Also, under no circumstances shall anyone, upset the cook! Governesses and Tutors were not considered servants but professional and separate. Also one novel about “ Poor Relations” often treated as of no importance and may be a companion or chaperone as a way to be helpful and appreciated. Funny novels! Such troubles but all was well by the end.

Chensey

@@lisamoag6548 Didn't she write the Agatha Raisin books (among others)?

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Amen!!!

Oh take a hike and leave the rest of us alone, we don't need your sanctimonious BS.

The children's book of fairy tales and lies. Ignorance of the truth. World created in 6 days, Earth 6000 years old, woman created from the rib of a man, talking serpent, man lives 3 days in belly of great fish, men walking on water, man kills 20,000 soldiers with jawbone of an ass, woman turns into pillar of salt, men dyeing and then being alive again, men living 900 years, thousands of people fed with a few fish, Earth covered by water, the list of lies is almost endless. Answer these questions honestly with common sense and logic and then you will have the right to try to brainwash others.

Heaven is a concept.