Raiden's MK9 Visions Explained

Raiden's MK9 Visions Explained | Canon Ball

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@epicbanana3669 10 ай бұрын

Theory: regarding what you say at 4:29, Kung Lao fakes his death during MK3 to go live a peaceful life in secret. Maybe it's still an "angry coz kung lao is dead" punch, because liu doesn't know lao faked it. Maybe Kung Lao faked his death to allow liu kang the strength to beat kahn. But that's absolutely too much credit for netherrealm.

@FlashX212 10 ай бұрын

Interesting how Lao from the OG timeline is SO different compared to the one from the second and third timeline

@youraveragemachine1013 9 ай бұрын

@@FlashX212i do like how they basically give lao og timeline personality to raiden tho

@NiCoNiCoNiCola 9 ай бұрын

Bro just asked Shao for a chiropractic massage

@nono9543 10 ай бұрын

Still can't get over how Shao Kahn won Armageddon despite us seeing him get yanked away by Onaga

@GhostFan-ev4di 10 ай бұрын

Well thanks to mk11(and now mk1 2023) apparently mk armageddon could've happened similar and various ways(I can't believe I gotta accept that)

@nono9543 10 ай бұрын

@@GhostFan-ev4di Oh so that implies that the Midway timeline and the Netherrealm timeline aren't exactly sequels to each other. Rather that the Netherrealm timeline is a continuation of events similar to Midways but with a different outcome. I see. Multiverse theory is a bitch lol

@elmaster48 10 ай бұрын

I like to think that Taven was the one who defeated Blaze, and that causes his ending where everyone gets a power boost, the detail is that Shao Kahn would be able to assimilate the fact he just got a power boost and overpowered Onaga before he realizes that he also got a power boost, and once he killed Onaga he jumped right at the pyramid and killed Taven and took his power, thus making him winner of armageddon, maybe not slayer of Blaze but he still got the power.

@EndoScorpion 10 ай бұрын

@@GhostFan-ev4di But the multiverse only happened because of the fight between Fire God Liu Kang and Kronika-absorbed, crown-wearing Shang Tsung. Before that there was only one timeline. However, before aftemath there was only one timeline and you could only stop or go back in time. So Liu Kang, at the dawn of time, would have no way of getting to the pre-reset partof MK11. Meaning Aftermath is canonically impossible, based on the established lore or MK11. And thus so is M1K. Basically, time-travel and multiverse ruined MK. And the writers have been tripping over themselves and constantly rebooting to try to fix their crap. The only way they can fix it is if they pick uip from Armageddon, ignore MK9 onwards, and pretend like timetravel is impossible in MK.

@GhostFan-ev4di 10 ай бұрын

@@EndoScorpion I feel like the reason the writers went the multiverse route is so they can have an excuse not to run into any dead corners

@MattSayYay 10 ай бұрын

9:09 - I think that’s just the filter in the visions, Smoke’s cyber form was likely meant to be grey, but it looked blue because all the visions were in blue.

@GhostFan-ev4di 10 ай бұрын

Its crazy that since mk9 all we've gotten from Mortal Kombat now in later games is time travel(and multiple timelines)

@bananacakesmckanzee7290 10 ай бұрын

Did mkx have time travel?

@TheDigitalApple 10 ай бұрын

Nothing new has happened in MK for over a decade. That’s just sad, all we’ve gotten is poor imitations of the Midway timeline

@TheGraveKnight 10 ай бұрын

So at this point we're now the MKCU

@GhostFan-ev4di 10 ай бұрын

@@TheGraveKnightyup pretty much

@Lord_Of_Eggs 10 ай бұрын

@@bananacakesmckanzee7290 11 did

@AzurknightOMEGA 10 ай бұрын

8:42 it actually is Bi-Han's mask and the nose portions make it clearer as Kuai-Liang's mask has a slit in the nose portion, Bi-Han's does not and also, while harder to see, the cheeks also show this as Kuai-Liang's has some kind of buttons inside the cheeks and Bi-Han's mask has more screen-like cheeks. So I think the mask in the shot is Bi-Han's.

@deadhelix 10 ай бұрын

i was going to say cause i paused and was like “isn’t it bi hans or am i stupid???”

@rubercaine 10 ай бұрын

Was about to write the same thing, you beat me to it. 😄

@EndoScorpion 10 ай бұрын

MK3 being based in Chicago makes sense. Not only because the Midway name being a reference to Chicago, but also based on character endings... Nightwolf cleansed his people's sacred land, using it as a safe-haven for the heroes to form a plan of attack against Shao Kahn's invasion. Nightwolf's Motaka tribe is supposedly based on the Lakota people, who are based in central US, west of Chicago. Stryker received visions from Raiden and instructed to travel West, but then travels back to "the city he swore to protect" to defeat Shao Kahn's invasion. There's no mention in this game where he is from and which city he swore to protect. However, a bio card in Armageddon's premium edition states Stryker is NYPD. The narrow river and short, uncovered bridges seem more like Chicago, as opposed to NY's much wider rivers and bridges with huge girders. Which would also imply the MK9 invasion is in Chicago too, as that game also has bridges that look very much like what they do in Chicago.

@gr-8166 10 ай бұрын

The most obvious to the city reference is the bridge arena in 9. The arena in which we can see other bridges in the background but which is a bit vague yea but Chicago’s iconic view includes the river bridges. Even in Dark Knight it was the reason why Rises had to be shot elsewhere because the city was just easily recognizable.

@Supernir 3 ай бұрын

Makes sense

@KombatGod 10 ай бұрын

Great video as always. A couple things I'll add: about Liu Kang's blow to Shao Kahn, MK Gold reveals that Kung Lao was thought dead after his "final battle" with Shao Kahn, so it is possible that Liu Kang could have been enraged at the news of his death. About the "soulnado" not existing prior to MKDA, that is true when talking about the proper in-game text, but if you look up concept art for the Soul Chamber stage from MK3, the vortex of souls in the background is indeed labled "soulnado", so the concept did exist in the developers' mind since MK3. Still, no big soulnado is shown in the game's intro, I know.

@EndoScorpion 10 ай бұрын

UMK3 endings for Liu Kang and Kung Lao talk about Kung Lao's apparent death. Liu Kang's ending says this enraged him and gave him the strength to beat Shao Kahn. MK4 just confirmed it as canon endings.

@KombatGod 10 ай бұрын

@@EndoScorpion that's right.

@Mysteriouslydarkstorys 8 ай бұрын

Holy cow, the attention to detail when it comes to the vision of Johnny's death was something i completely missed. I finally understand now why Raiden just yeets away and seemingly drops Motaro for no reason but it all makes sense now

@saloz9483 10 ай бұрын

Like that midway was based thrown in there. Also seeing Dark Raiden bio makes me frustrated we still haven't really had a big story with Dark Raiden and probably never will unless they make new era Raiden turn dark or something.

@jaernihiltheus7817 10 ай бұрын

Even if they do do it again they'll just retcon it out in the next game like they did in mk11

@jaernihiltheus7817 10 ай бұрын

@charleshastings7260 honestly, i works really well for comics, and probably would've worked fine if this was following mk2 or mk3. The issue is that by the time they got to armageddon MK had its own mythology that doesn't work with multiverse shenanigans & time travel, it also had its own aesthetic & universe as this gothic 70s kung fu meets dark fantasy political thriller meets techno eldritch horror with a side of hero's journey. It was far to late to push things in the NRS direction without it feeling extremely awkward and out of place - ruining everything it touches in the process.

@simony17y 10 ай бұрын

10:10 Midway "being based" made me suddenly recall a cheeky remark on MK's story I've seen somewhere: "Midway's MK = art house, NRS' MK = Hollywood".

@fyour1st527 10 ай бұрын

MK9 creators that don't even work there: " I was just trying to finish before the deadline..."

@jaimediaz6621 10 ай бұрын

Pretty sure Bi-Han's mask is used in the vision of his death. There's no middle line that cuts through the upper portion of the mask. It also has the angled edges versus Kaui Liang's smooth curve.

@EndoScorpion 10 ай бұрын

Wasn't MK3 Liu Kang enraged due to Kung Lao's supposed death during the final battle?

@ironyoshi27 10 ай бұрын

That midway was based line had me rolling on the floor 😭 (happy birthday btw)

@ironyoshi27 10 ай бұрын

10:08

@zel3079 10 ай бұрын

Always was 🗿

@TerceiroMundista 10 ай бұрын

My man just called Hsu Hao one of the most important characters in MK, knowing damn well what the comment section was gonna be

@hurricane7727 10 ай бұрын

Hsu Hao Succeeded in Destroying the Other World investigation Agency Hq that had Portals and Destroyed it regardless of his Death which Limited Special Forces Movement

@K-11609 10 ай бұрын

I think the Kano imprisoned flashback is nothing more than a nod to how he was put in chains during the tournament in MK2 as an Easter Egg, or something like that. Also with Jax's arms, it somewhat works because of the circumstances regarding how he gets them. The prior timeline had him volunteer to get his arms replaced, whereas in MK9 he was forced to because Ermac ripped them off.

@inductivegrunt94 10 ай бұрын

Raiden really needs to get his eyes checked with all these visions of his. Dude really changed a lot with these visions and did help and hinder many different characters. Happy Birthday Snake! And Midway is based!

@SuperGamefreak18 10 ай бұрын

I always felt why the visions were so confusing was because how future raiden sent them they were put into a destroyed amulet of shinnok. It was a quick message sent to the past in its state it was lucky he must win made it to him clearly. That amulet had no way of sending a clear message back if it didn’t break maybe.

@HellNutcase 10 ай бұрын

8:41 But this is Bi-Han's mask.

@RugaQwarrcall 10 ай бұрын

Honestly kinda seems like some weird in-between of the masks. The outer portion is similar to Bi-Han, but the mouthpiece seems closer to Kuai Liang's while still also being a bit unique.

@HellNutcase 10 ай бұрын

@@RugaQwarrcall It's 100% Bi-Han's mask, just bent.

@vaggos2003 10 ай бұрын

@@RugaQwarrcallMK9, bpth the game itself and its marketing, has this weird obsession with giving Bi-Han Kuai's costume, if we are to judge from Raiden's visions, Quan Chi's illusion and the devs claiming that the Sub-Zero in the trailers would totally be the elder Sub-Zero.

@niceboifeast8838 10 ай бұрын

8:41 I think that IS Bi Hans mask, just too beat up to recognize

@EndoScorpion 10 ай бұрын

Yeha, the damage on the side makes it looks like the circluar vent on Kuai Liang's mask, but if you look on the bridge of the nose part, it looks more like Bi Han's.

@pato6738 10 ай бұрын

Personally I like to think the inconsistencies on this game (like sometimes they take stuff from the original games and sometimes from the Shaolin Monks game, sometimes from the MK vs DCU, and sometimes they depict a new thing all together like Cyrax and Sektor in the original tournament) tell us this was a different timeline than the original (which ended with Taven victorious) this one started like the Midway one, had some differences but still go till Armagedon but on this one Shao Kahn beat Blaze which lead to a reboot. It would explain why Raiden uses an amulet that he literally never had 8 games in the past

@YSL8704 9 ай бұрын

I personally like the Raiden vs Liu Kang fight, and it’s because of the terrifying implications of it… Imagine there being billions, maybe even TRILLIONS of timelines, and over and over and over and over again you and someone you’ve known for a long time, that’s basically like a father to you, have fought, it’s a never ending cycle, it happens again, and again, and again, timeline after timeline, the same exact thing happening, and you don’t even realize it… That’s a terrifying thought… But I see why you don’t like it…

@TheDigitalApple 10 ай бұрын

It’s Snakes birthday hurrah!

@shawerful5209 10 ай бұрын

The vision of raiden talking to the main heroes in deadly alliance, always gave me chills

@Cloxer 10 ай бұрын

I am thrilled you made this video, this is something that I've been wanting to see explained the most since some of the MK Games like Deadly Alliance i haven't fully played and some of Raiden's visions did confuse me some so this is pretty helpful Also happy birthday, i am happy i found this channel through your MK9 kritique.

@kennethglenn3613 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday you absolute legend

@luizkorynga 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday Snake

@orizach01 10 ай бұрын

I never understood the "he must win" line, if he was truly referring to the time in mk3 where Shao invaded Earthrealm, why did he suddenly remember this invasion so much later? why did he think about that specific moment?

@simony17y 10 ай бұрын

Well, he had Shao Kahn standing right in front of him as a memento. 😉

@PigMan161 9 ай бұрын

Holy shit, I have literally always wanted this video

@younezzz 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday lad

@aleanddragonITA 9 ай бұрын

10:25 I guess he got found out by Barakka so the Fight was against an Intruder instead of Kung Lao revealing himself in front of Shang Tsung and so being recognized as an Official Participant

@realmjumper8154 9 ай бұрын

Just a genuine question. In the cyber-smoke vision is the model actually blue or is it the tint of the vision since all of the visions are featured in a blue hue. I have just been wondering that since it was pointed out.

@jasonblundelldobebussing 10 ай бұрын

What about a 30+ years old version of Raiden with glasses, also known as The 4th Child Of Snake. Can you explain him?

@MazeDaGr8 10 ай бұрын

Happy Bday Mr Snake

@edrianraneses5864 10 ай бұрын

I do hoped you make a Subzero (Mortal Kombat 1) | Wasted Potential video soon enough pal

@TheDigitalApple 10 ай бұрын

M1K proved someone has a vendetta against Sun Zero, Bi Han especially.

@edrianraneses5864 10 ай бұрын

@@TheDigitalApple Sub zero yes

@EndoScorpion 10 ай бұрын

@@TheDigitalApple A vendetta against Scorpion too (the real Scorpion I mean). And Kitana, as she is redundant now that Mileena is basically Kitana, but transforms into the monster Mileena for combat. And Sindel, bringing back Twindel to kill of Sindel. I mean, there's so much in M1K that just feels spiteful towards past MK, despite relying solely on past MK as NRS writers can't tell an original story.

@VerdantRange 10 күн бұрын

The continuity errors with Raiden's visions really help with the fan theory that Kronika had reset the timeline after Taven's ending and what we see at the start of MK9 is from a later timeline.

@MegaJetty1 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday!

@SonicHaXD 10 ай бұрын

10:08 MIDWAY WAS BASED XD

@crossovanon3401 10 ай бұрын

2:04 a great moment of Quan chi getting slapped lmao

@legionbeast 10 ай бұрын

Not using Geras as the trump card during Mortal 1 Kombat's time mayhem by using his unkillable fixed point aspect is certainly one of the most wasted aspects of his character. Oh and Happy Birthday!

@nabilahmed579 10 ай бұрын

Geras as a concept would realistically been busted and broke as hell in the actual story, which is why they have the plot fuck him over lmao

@Pol74698 10 ай бұрын

8:51 probably just a beta Dark Raiden model, note the different colors of eyebrows. The expression, though, makes me think this isn't Dark Raiden on his last legs, but rather a battered and bruised Dark Raiden who is still battling

@Pol74698 10 ай бұрын

Scratch that part about the "beta model"

@pacman10124 10 ай бұрын

best vid you've made in a while imo snake

@siddharthghosh3963 10 ай бұрын

Hey, maybe you can make a video on who killed who in the aftermath of MK Armageddon based on the opening cutscenes of MK9 and Armageddon?

@pious83 10 ай бұрын

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@Takejiro24 10 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday, Snake! 🎂🎉

@spider-manunknown9193 10 ай бұрын

I personally think that the opening of MK9 is not the original timeline and instead is a replica of it with some miner differences with Shao Kahn winning Armageddon instead of Taven. So The Midway era is the very first timeline and all got altered after Armageddon thx to Kronika. So MK9 opening is possibly a timeline that’s almost exactly like the original timeline.

@CC-fl7lk 9 ай бұрын

yea thats how i see it too. cause it feels like mental gymnastics tryna make sense of it being the same as mk9😭

@harukami912 10 ай бұрын

About the vision where Sub-Zero bows to Raiden: In MK9, Smoke bows to Raiden _exactly_ like that after being saved from the Cyber Lin Kuei by him.

@hurricane7727 10 ай бұрын

That was Actually Sub Zeros Mk Deadly Alliance ending

@diojoestar9646 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday !!!

@MannerdDesert7 10 ай бұрын

4:20 I think the idea is that Kung Lao did die in the original timeline (or at least was thought to be dead), in Liu Kang & Kung Lao’s MK3 ending he dies fighting Shao Kahn & this was assumed canon until retconned in MK Gold. I’m assuming who ever was responsible for creating the vision forgot Kung Lao didn’t actually die.

@TheRealVbros 9 ай бұрын

@@aleanddragonITA he was referring to mk3, not armageddon

@blacksabbath9631 10 ай бұрын

Here’s more interesting thought for you regarding timeline/multiverse/repeats in MK, Snake. Basically, if replica of NRS plots goes toes-to-toes and MK1 (just like MK9) come through three games (DA, Deception and Armageddon), so it means um…..NRS need to repeat now MKvsDC💀

@aleanddragonITA 9 ай бұрын

What if they do InJustice 3 And MKvsDC is a function that allows M1K to connect with IJ3? I already saw it in another Game of Dragon Ball that can connect with an One Piece Game And so you could have Goku VS Luffy

@Makoto03 10 ай бұрын

Great video and happy birthday. :)

@turdfurgesin9563 9 ай бұрын

I don’t know how serious I take Armageddon’s intro I think it’s multiple timelines because the intro to Armageddon depicts Sub-Zero and Scorpion fighting which at this point of the story makes no sense because Scorpion swears protection over Sub-Zero because he knows it was Quan Chi that deceived him.

@yezki8 10 ай бұрын

0:38 theory: Raiden killed or knocked out Taven here, which ensure the doom

@The4thSnake 10 ай бұрын

Interesting.

@desrochessimon3044 10 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday, 4th Snake!

@fvzw. 10 ай бұрын

happy birthday, 4th snake :)

@iPeedabed 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday 4th snake🎉🎉🎉

@ianreynoso3043 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday the4thsnake 🎉🎉 Also it’s my birthday as well

@xavierwalko4175 10 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday bro! Maybe try to figure out some sort of crossover story? (New MK VS DC/Injustice, or maybe Street Fighter if you want a challenge.) Also I like Fate too.

@cameronjohnson9361 10 ай бұрын

I think kung Laos almost death at the end of 3 explains that particular image Lao was always the trigger in both timelines it just happened earlier and I also took that scorpion one as him finisher stealing

@TheBlackSerpentBeta 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday, nerd Keep up the great work

@xxmegamuertexx69 10 ай бұрын

8:38 I think it is Bi Han's mask, i mean it doens't have that line in the middle which Kuai Liang has

@nonverbalpie8151 10 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday Snake.

@jaimegabriel6041 10 ай бұрын

"Midway was based"

@jakebailey5834 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday 4th Snake

@HaloDarkKnight117 10 ай бұрын

Literally plot vision

@TheMemeRepository 10 ай бұрын

A third option might be that Scorpion decapitated Sub-Zero first & then burned him in both timelines, with the only deviation being that he removed his hood-face first in the NRS timeline. But yeah, no real way to tell.

@rashadmiller25 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday 4th snake

@SteveOh_ 10 ай бұрын

Hell yea, I've been waiting for this video since I was 13

@dareelcabbagelord1332 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday man 🎉

@dar_dar3655 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday Snake!

@ryanbarrie9143 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday snake

@nobodyjr8413 10 ай бұрын

Hey happy birthday snake 🎉👑

@milanbeerepoot4260 10 ай бұрын

10:11 idk how this caught me off guard i should know better by now

@21eienni 10 ай бұрын

That's cool! And happy birthday! (a bit late, sorry)

@cagedcoco1681 10 ай бұрын

Kronika watching Snake's videos be like: "You'll never figure out all my inconsistencies, but you are welcome to try, of course. :)"

@cagedcoco1681 10 ай бұрын

Off topic but related: I like the idea that all the inconsistencies is why Kronika was going insane during MK11, she kept making more of them and kept getting mad that others were pointing them out 😂

@aleanddragonITA 9 ай бұрын

Headcanon The Fourth Snake was the Only Time Keeper before Kronica (mentioned by Geras in M1K) He died when Midway closed and Kronica claimed his powers when NetherRealm Studio was made

@lizardking4465 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday bro

@PrimeWolfi 10 ай бұрын

Happy shared Birthday Snake

@ridleyformk1244 10 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday!

@nate-is1jv 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday and have a great day

@gabrixsonico 10 ай бұрын

Excellent video, thank you very much for making it, I always found it curious about Raiden and these visions Is there something else that with these visions of Raiden made changes to the original timeline? I would like to know, why did it take so long for the story with Shinnok to happen in MKX and also how until then there was no armageddon? And the original timeline as it should currently be?

@cfdesignsonline 10 ай бұрын

"Midway was based" 😂🤣

@NIkolasCarr 10 ай бұрын

Merry birthday 🎉

@MysticEle 10 ай бұрын

Happy 🎂 day Snake!

@Gzero-ph8eg 10 ай бұрын

Another banger of course

@DeathScepter 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday and I am going to like this video for you produce good content

@DeathScepter 10 ай бұрын

out of respect for the4thsnake, please report any telegram for they are spam

@Sumsuch000 10 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday.

@333reptid3 10 ай бұрын

happy birthday! 🎉

@vukopacic1396 10 ай бұрын

happy birthday!

@JasperLane 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday

@AmethystReaver 10 ай бұрын

Man i really miss when Mk was only about other realms trying to conquer earth and had none of these bullshit time travels

@hurricane7727 10 ай бұрын

That was all Prior to Mk9.

@nabilahmed579 10 ай бұрын

Tbf, mk9 did not involve time travel that much and it was a lot more about setting up a new continuity at all. It is where mk11 started involving the timeline nonsense where it starts to get ridiculously convuluted

@projesusantisatan3583 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday I hope you’re enjoying it

@cokelife5831 10 ай бұрын

I always thought 2:30 is from mk vs dc when sub zero goes to raiden to make peace

@wildpig6986 10 ай бұрын

8:42 they do use Bi-han mask because there is no line streak on top of the mouth piece

@ricardosoares3877 10 ай бұрын

🎉 Happy birthday

@RimeyCH 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday.

@kurozunakabuto9682 10 ай бұрын

Here's to hoping the next game doesn't reset the timeline Tho Havik will make it happen

@EndoScorpion 10 ай бұрын

I frickin hope they do reset it, and/or merge all the timelines into one. This multiverse crap needs to die. We need to go back to the original timeline and pretend like none of this time crap ever happened, or is even possible.

@kurozunakabuto9682 10 ай бұрын

@@EndoScorpion that will be a very messy universe With how they (in-universe) explain that Kronika death cause the timelines to break of to separate universes

@EndoScorpion 10 ай бұрын

@@kurozunakabuto9682 Not if they pick up from Armageddon and pretend like MK9 onwards never happened. But even if they don't, and just merge what they have now into one timeline... it would still be far less messy than having a multiverse. Multiverses and time-shenannigans are messy, and we'd all be better off when they finally do away with it all.

@czechpatriot2230 10 ай бұрын

@@EndoScorpion Well Disney is dying which mean that Marvel is aswell so lets hope this trend will end with them.

@Axel_Kasai 10 ай бұрын

@@EndoScorpionthey wouldn't just pretend everything from 9 onwards didn't happen. Just gotta deal with it 😂

@madxxradhair 10 ай бұрын

Happy birthday 🎉

@rydn_x 10 ай бұрын

I think in Raiden’s bio in either mk Armageddon or deception it mention that shinnok approached Raiden and offered him a alliance but Raiden would pretend to be a ally