Concrete: A Ticking Time Bomb. Can We Fix It?

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The Aesthetic City

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Concrete - it seems like almost everything is built with it. But especially reinforced concrete has one dark secret, which we're taking a look at in this video, alongside multiple other problems. Is there a way to use concrete in better ways? Share this video with someone who cares for the planet! 🌍
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@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
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@Metal0sopher
@Metal0sopher Ай бұрын
Can't we make rebar out of plastic? Especially recycled plastic. It would solve two problems. It would not be as strong, but if made into tensioned nets it would have the same effect. I think it should be tested.
@petertrypsteen
@petertrypsteen Ай бұрын
Using cross-laminated timber is a terrible suggestion and should've included (synthetic) basalt as reinforcement material replacing steel.
@benjigray8690
@benjigray8690 15 күн бұрын
@@Metal0sopher Making anything out of reinforced concrete is an "art form" in my opinion. It requires, first up, a lot of consultation with the client about his budget, and a designer, architect/ engineer, and a builder with experience, and knowledge of how much the finished project will cost. then, all can consider the "alternative materials" and alternative shape of the structure. If the client is concerned about whether "Recycled materials" are being used, I tell them that a lot of rebar is made from re cycled rail way materials like axels and trunnions. and also that to my knowledge, all steel is made from about 50% recycled steel. Steel and concrete are good bedfellows, because they have the same coefficient of expansion and contraction.
@maxxsee
@maxxsee 8 күн бұрын
it's not a planet
@ryelor123
@ryelor123 7 күн бұрын
I don't like the 'sustainable' movement since at its core, its full of people who want to justify wiping out large segments of the population. Its essentially a bourgeois movement that seeks to destroy anyone who's not part of the middle and upper-middle class bourgeoisie. This kind of ideology got out of hand in the past but, unlike back then, our modern technology would make the oppression far more effective.
@philippschumann4556
@philippschumann4556 Ай бұрын
Great video. As a German, a specific project in my country comes to mind that fits this just perfectly: The city of Stuttgart decided to put their big train station below ground, and so they are currently building a new underground train hall with huge, wide reinforced concrete structures. Just constructing this is taking 15 years, and guess what? The planned lifespan of this structure is... 80 years. What happens then? Nobody knows. Problems for future generations.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Incredible right? How public funds are squandered on buildings that might need to be torn down after one generation
@AndrewRoberts11
@AndrewRoberts11 Ай бұрын
Many a trillion dollars has been spent in recent decades on High Speed rail tracks that are built atop viaducts constructed of reinforced, epoxy bonded, post tensioned, peer cast, unique concrete segments, that are hopefully good for 40-60 years. That unlike 19th century viaducts can't be repaired with a few bricks and sacks of cement, over a few weekends, in half a century. The stations are but the tip of an iceberg.
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 8 күн бұрын
@@the_aesthetic_city You failed to cover the ways that re bar can be protected to give a 200 year lifespan. Epoxy Coated re bar will likely last 100 years. Hot Dipped Galvanized re bar will last 200 years... So if premium concrete is used, with galvanized re bar, a 200 year lifespan is practical. Brick buildings don't last that long, unless they are designed to keep the brick about freezing [no insulation] and the building's mortar is repaired every decade. This is why the smaller buildings in the UK have lasted centuries, because essentially every wall has been rebuilt every century or so...
@MatzeMaulwurf
@MatzeMaulwurf 8 күн бұрын
@@davidhollenshead4892indeed. Galvanized rebar and a good water proof concrete together with a adequate sealing of the building… and it will last 200+ years.
@holgernarrog
@holgernarrog 6 күн бұрын
There are plenty of ways how to keep a concrete building stable. It starts from rebar protection, sacrificial anodes, electricity.. to carbon fibre reinforcements. In the tunnels most of the concrete is today shotcrete reinforced by Polypropylen fibres. A former employer of mine SIKA has an awful lot of solutions. I would not worry too much. The main challenge you are facing is the green ideology that aims for a poor feudalistic society. Such a society does not need roads or large railway stations. In a green society it becomes abundant. By the way the green rulers of Germany destroy the electricity generation (destroying modern coal plants, envroenmental friendly nukes and replace them by dirty useless solar panels). Trains need electricity to run.
@gabetalks9275
@gabetalks9275 Ай бұрын
It's amazing to me how mid-20th Century humanity collectively made all the wrong decisions possible. We traded sustainability, beauty, and urbanism that was once working wonders for everyone for greed, ugliness, and segregation. Even when the economic bubble is bursting and the planet is being rapidly destroyed for short-term profit, we still continue to destroy ourselves in name of greed and hatred for our fellow humans. It's sickening.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Happily there is an alternative - but it will be a battle to build better. We can only spread information, vote with our wallets, our feet and of course vote politically. But there is a lot we can do individually to spread the message!
@himanshusinghal242
@himanshusinghal242 Ай бұрын
They were busy making easily scalable designs, with low demand on skills. Democractic governments rarely support any long term expensive solutions fearing backlash from industry (less profit) and people (expensive goods). We are also resposible for it. for example, Building norms are designed for 50 years as most people do not want to live in older houses, prefering new houses meant to accomodate latest tech.
@erwinfa35lightningii9
@erwinfa35lightningii9 Ай бұрын
that`s post modernism for yay
@reinhardt3090
@reinhardt3090 Ай бұрын
Segregation? What? I think you've got it backwards.
@TheRVSN
@TheRVSN Ай бұрын
@@the_aesthetic_city "vote with our wallets" - you will buy what they will tell you (deliver to "market").
@vadimsky
@vadimsky Ай бұрын
For architects and builders, start with: "Building with Lime: A practical introduction" or "Hot Mixed Lime and Traditional Mortars".
@MisterHeroman
@MisterHeroman 24 күн бұрын
Until we start running out of lime like we are doing to the beaches?
@vadimsky
@vadimsky 23 күн бұрын
@@MisterHeroman 1st of all: Lime-based concrete, hydraulic or non-hydraulic, is not a substitute for common concrete (PCC) used in construction today, which utilizes Portland cement as a binder. Lime constitutes 60-67% of raw materials consumed in Portland cement production. PCC is the second most consumed substance (right after water) in the world right now, as we speak. 2nd: Quartz sand is mostly used for decorative lime plaster, which is the smallest part of lime-based construction materials and should be preferably coarse - so neither river, nor beach sand are optimal. 3rd: Reinforced PCC should be, hopefully, replaced mostly by engineered wood in high-rise and infrastructure projects. 4th: You should do basic research on cob, adobe, lime stabilized earth etc. - you'll love it❤
@daxisperry7644
@daxisperry7644 5 күн бұрын
@@vadimskyWould engineered wood beams really be strong enough for use in high rises??
@BBGOnYT
@BBGOnYT 4 күн бұрын
@@daxisperry7644 There are some videos that show examples of high rises that are being built with that type of wood
@rodyates1
@rodyates1 3 күн бұрын
@@vadimsky I have done quite a lot of that research.
@billyungen
@billyungen Ай бұрын
The more I learn about building codes, zoning, and planning in the 20th and 21st Centuries, the less I respect the academic and professional discipline of "Professional Urban Planning". Urban planners have given us everything from urban sprawl to hideous and unsustainable buildings -- and then they have blamed their failures on the petroleum industry or builders or whomever. On the East Coast of the United States, storm water runoff and resultant flooding is a huge problem in the oldest cities. Yet those same cities and adjacent suburbs continue to allow -- and even require -- massive amounts of impermeable paving and building that merely increases the runoff exponentially. I am exasperated with planning/zoning departments and their degreed/certified "urban planners". They are the problem, not the solution.
@hylje
@hylje Ай бұрын
Humanity would be better off without formal urban planning and architecture. The (human) cost of the occasional shoddy building is far lower than the cost of systemic failure.
@josephfisher426
@josephfisher426 Ай бұрын
The profession developed mostly in response to those same problems. In the absence of planners, people would be paving even more in the suburbs because it's where the demand is. The biggest failing of planners IMO is catering to commuters with their road decisions. It was a rearguard action that was never going to pay off.
@billyungen
@billyungen Ай бұрын
​@@josephfisher426 Response to those problems??? They gave the U.S. its worst problems. Urban planners devised the modern concept of dividing society into "residential, commercial, industrial". They bequeathed us a loathing of mixed use, and many (perhaps, MOST) municipalities in the United States STILL abhor mixed use in their zoning and planning. In suburbs from Washington, D.C. to Orange County, California, people have to get into their automobiles and drive miles to buy a litre of milk or a loaf of bread, or to buy a scone and a cup of coffee; that drive might be five minutes or it might be 45 minutes. It is no wonder that traffic is constantly terrible in Costa Mesa, Marietta, and Fairfax County. The demise of the neighborhood store or cafe was not merely a pity, it was an environmental catastrophe -- and still is. Only now are a few planning and zoning departments beginning to acknowledge it. But, in the mean time, planners and local governments have trained the populace to believe that the presence of any commercial entity in a residential zone is the end of property values there. Local residents will come shrieking with a whole host of "problems" (almost all of them perfectly solvable) at the first breath of anything commercial in their neighborhoods. It will be decades before any sort of mixed use is advocated as an antidote to the choking traffic of America's suburbs. American's have been socialised to believe in the segregation of "residential, commercial, industrial" -- a 1950's concept that was never even good in theory, and was a disaster in practice. Thank you, municipal planners. You sold us on the idea of suburbs, so now what?
@josephfisher426
@josephfisher426 Ай бұрын
@@billyungen Mixed-use zoning has been a fad in planning circles since the mid 80s, which was itself only about a decade after there was any real planning. Before that most development restriction outside of cities, which did necessary things like banning the keeping of pigs, came from covenants. Covenants aren't really enforceable now, but when land was recently enough subdivided that original purchasers were still a large proportion of the owners, they were assumed to be enforceable. That mixed-use zoning that was a fad has mostly not worked. It was inspired by older urban areas and it would be nice if it worked. But it's less efficient for business, in an environment with cheap energy costs, to operate in multiple locations as opposed to centralized ones that people drive to. Business is what ultimately chose the current arrangement.
@billyungen
@billyungen Ай бұрын
@@josephfisher426 Mixed use "zoning" may be recent. "Zoning" is the operative word. But mixed use is thousands of years old. It has been around for thousands of years because it has great utility. Businesses and citizens today do what government planners allow them to do where government planners allow them to do it. They do not "choose" the current arrangement. Your post is poppycock. If businesses or citizens could chose where they do things, then we really WOULD NOT NEED planners.
@mattesr.8680
@mattesr.8680 29 күн бұрын
I work for a company that produces rebar out of duroplastics. These glass fibre rods are used in Bridges instead of steel rebar. It is resistant to corrosion, so the bridges won't need to be rebuilt every few years
@buddyrevell511
@buddyrevell511 15 күн бұрын
Is this in any way similar to the fiberglass rebar you can buy at a home improvement center?
@mattesr.8680
@mattesr.8680 15 күн бұрын
@buddyrevell511 it is quite similar, yes. But the resin and the winding of the rebar might be a little different. Mostly because every company uses a little bit of a different approach to make their product unique. The company I work for specifically designed the product to the specifications and audits of bridges and other large infrastructure
@Boodlums
@Boodlums 13 күн бұрын
@@mattesr.8680 I tried googling but couldn't find companies that make it; I only found scientific articles and such. Can you name companies?
@HowievYT
@HowievYT 8 күн бұрын
Sounds like a very smart product! My bodycorp is managing spalling on a 1971-built poured reinforced with post-stress compression via internal cables. In about 2% by area, some 15cm in from the surface of exposed ledges, our rebar rusted. We are in Wellington NZ - windy and salty. It's usual maintenance around these parts; you'd need to build to ocean-going specs for slower degradation. Better concrete now than 50 yrs ago.
@timgoertzen5524
@timgoertzen5524 7 күн бұрын
That sounds great, but I question it because of expansion. The reason why concrete and rebar work so well together (other than the flaws clearly laid out in this video) is that they expand and shrink at the exact same rate. How does your company deal with that? I'm genuinely curious
@taz3810
@taz3810 Ай бұрын
The real face of anti-Traditional architrcture: ugly, souless, short living, unefficient and enemy of the enviroment. Thank you for you videos, great as always
@gearandalthefirst7027
@gearandalthefirst7027 Ай бұрын
Not sure if you noticed, but the proposed solutions were not entirely traditional either. Plenty of traditional architecture burned down, fell over, or otherwise was destroyed under it's own incompetency in far shorter than 50 years.
@taz3810
@taz3810 Ай бұрын
@@gearandalthefirst7027 There's no match between traditional and modern. Where traditional was meant to endure it lasted centuries, where it wasn't meant to endure it was at least funcional and ecofriendly (like a wooden cabin house). The solution "not entirely traditional" still had to take the already existant knowledge as reference, while Modernism trashed it like it was just centuries of superstitions. Modernism was greatly moved by the hate for the old, rather than the improvement of things, thats the problem
@Novusod
@Novusod 29 күн бұрын
We used to build buildings that could last 1000 years but many of them were ripped down after only being used for 40 or 50 years. An example of that would be Penn Station in New York. It was designed to last 1000 years but only stood for 53 years and was ripped down in 1963. Thousands of similar long lasting buildings met a similar fate. Modernism arose from the idea form followed function. It is wasteful to put a ton of resources into a building that will only be used for 50 years. If a building is only going to be used for 50 years then why design it to last a thousand?
@diemes5463
@diemes5463 25 күн бұрын
Most buildings are built to whatever standard the owner can afford, the traditional buildings that last a thousand years are monuments that people have invested in to maintain. No ancient structures would exist if not for engineers and preservationists.
@WindTurbineSyndrome
@WindTurbineSyndrome 15 күн бұрын
USA urban renewal of 69s did a lot of damage to cities especially on East coast many iconic buildings entire neighborhoods were razed. Salem MA downtown was devastated by soulless concrete replacements.
@ephix238
@ephix238 Ай бұрын
I am studying civil engineering right now, and it is crazy how much of the lectures revolve around the use of reinforced concrete. I believe one of the main reasons for this is the fact that most people that want to construct buildings are wealthy people, and exactly those people do not think in a sustainable way, since this will not net them the most money. And i worry that since this is the case we will not really see huge changes in the near future. Tho brickwork is gaining a lot more popularity again especially for private contractors, and building with it makes it "only" 6-7% more expensive.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Yes there are many ways to design with other materials- they cost more, just like preventing rusting of the rebar, but we need to make a choice if we really want to be sustainable. Otherwise, we are just greenwashing or virtue signaling
@ephix238
@ephix238 Ай бұрын
​@@the_aesthetic_city This is very true, i really hope for more movement in that direction. And in this regard i deeply appreciate what you are doing.
@disposabull
@disposabull Ай бұрын
Have you discovered "passivhaus" standards yet? You should take a look at designing buildings that need almost zero heating or cooling.
@ephix238
@ephix238 Ай бұрын
@@disposabull yes ! though not fully into detail yet, but it is being talked about since they do try to be sustainable in many ways.
@zteaxon7787
@zteaxon7787 Ай бұрын
If reinforced concrete is used for the floors and the roof is properly maintained... Why would it last only 50 years or even just 100 years? I don't like concrete as a finished surface of buildings either. But the dufference is very important and not adressed.
@ba1anse
@ba1anse Ай бұрын
We live in consumeristic societies, nothing is built for the long term, not computers, clothes, not even buildings. Sad.
@user-gu9yq5sj7c
@user-gu9yq5sj7c Ай бұрын
planned obsolescence
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Ай бұрын
Imagine the buildings in Babylonian civilizations...
@Monaleenian
@Monaleenian Ай бұрын
How long should a computer last? Would you be happy with a computer with the capabilities that were available in most computers 15 or 20 years ago? How about your phone? Same question. The products around us are as durable as we demand, given all the other factors that go into a purchasing decision.
@SeverinHawkland7855
@SeverinHawkland7855 Ай бұрын
Everything is made for money, not to be used.
@ObsceneSuperMatt
@ObsceneSuperMatt Ай бұрын
@@Monaleenian You would only be dissatisfied, because you have experienced the newer machines. In reality, how much better off are we, really? A 480p video on DVD without all the compression looks better than a 1080p streamed video, because the compression that is used to save bandwidth. Games, especially "AAA" ones, spend all the money on polygons and textures and not on actually being polished and fun. How much more productive are they? I don't build a new computer every 5 years because I want new stuff, I do it because the requirements for everything have bloated. For phones, it is even worse; it only lasts as long as the battery, which is generally no longer replaceable. The apps don't need better resources, and if I want a good camera, I'm going to get something waterproof and protected, not use my phone.
@SisterSunny
@SisterSunny Ай бұрын
I can't believe it isn't common sense anymore to build buildings that won't degrade in a century. It's ridiculous, because in many European cities, the same people who build with this mindset are surrounded by buildings one and a half, two, sometimes even THREE centuries old. Thanks for the video
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Absolutely! We need to start thinking far more long term
@pipeds9979
@pipeds9979 29 күн бұрын
please take note that reinforced concrete hasn't been in the industry for that long. The estimate 50 year life span has considered multiple safety factors. Technically, they can even live more than a century. Those non reinforced concrete you have mentioned will easily collapse after an earthquake and kill people instantly. Not to mention the limitations these kind of structure have (you'd need bigger walls, bigger columns, that reduces your indoor space, goodluck finding a big lot for that)
@user-yd4tm3gl8s
@user-yd4tm3gl8s 23 күн бұрын
We have cathedrals, old scyscrapers, that still stand after 5 centuries
@pipeds9979
@pipeds9979 23 күн бұрын
@@user-yd4tm3gl8s and how many of these cathedrals have also collapsed if they are not maintained or further reinforced?
@Panda_Gibs
@Panda_Gibs 6 күн бұрын
Plenty of buildings outlive their usefulness. Areas get developed and redeveloped to accommodate the needs of the residents in the area.
@thelordchancellor3454
@thelordchancellor3454 Ай бұрын
The fact that modern building codes disallow the use of unreinforced concrete is really something Edit: It seems I misremembered the codes, structural masonry is outright disallowed. Unreinforced concrete is restricted in its use but is still allowed in certain circumstances. I feel my point still stands, the building codes as they currently exist should be rewritten to embrace these types of construction. They are more sustainable than reinforced concrete and glass curtain wall facades.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Many codes are designed in favor of the construction industry
@Metal0sopher
@Metal0sopher Ай бұрын
I never understood why foundations, especially low rise home foundations, have to sue reinforced concrete. I always thought that was weird.
@2mains234
@2mains234 Ай бұрын
One of the problems is that all the regulations that govern the construction industry are passed into law by politicians who know nothing about construction. So they get experts to draft all the legislation for them. To gain expertise, such people need to have worked in the industry. Thusly we get biased rules which assume that the methods in use are the only ones possible. It is also useful for the industry to avoid change because that has a huge cost, not only in innovating designs but in retraining workers and changing supply chains.
@lupus7297
@lupus7297 Ай бұрын
This is actually not completely true, within eurocode 2 which is used in Europe to design concrete structures there is a chapter about unreinforced concrete. However there are quite strict limitations to these as unreinforced concrete fails in a brittle fashion, giving occupants no time to get out of a building when it starts falling apart.
@TS-jm7jm
@TS-jm7jm Ай бұрын
​@@2mains234 the real problem is not the type of regulation, but rather the OBSESSION that everything MUST have rules governing it enforced by the government. this is the real evil.
@soldierblack5032
@soldierblack5032 Ай бұрын
There's a lot of construction industries here in France which know how to built without concrete, since we still have building like that almost everywhere... Building methods aren't lost and the problem is not that they don't know but they don't want to change people aren't ready too to pay for a good and long time construction since it's much more expensive ..
@alexsmith-ob3lu
@alexsmith-ob3lu Ай бұрын
In France and Italy, many traditional forms of craftsmanship are still preserved but in America; these types of old crafts have been lost to history.
@marblox9300
@marblox9300 22 күн бұрын
Um, don't leave large spaces in between your sentences - it's annoying.
@ShawnNac
@ShawnNac 5 күн бұрын
​@marblox9300 Well, it's sounds like a YOU problem, being annoyed at the way someone paragraphs their comments, lol. I find that funny as fuck. Especially coming from someone that uses a dash instead of a comma. Haha! (Double spaced paragraphs just for your enjoyment) Your comment just makes you look like a Richard Head.
@marblox9300
@marblox9300 5 күн бұрын
@@ShawnNac Not a problem. Idiot. LOL.
@TheAnadromist
@TheAnadromist Ай бұрын
Modern architecture has been one of the greatest devil's bargains in history. Thanks for helping us to think about this. And you retain, not so much a sense of optimism but, resolve, that we must deal with this. I gave a lecture on texture that you might find interesting. Thanks. Let's find the ways out of this.
@joschkahurst
@joschkahurst 23 күн бұрын
Please don't cry this could be worst
@LaMach420
@LaMach420 Ай бұрын
"and so castles made of sand fall in the sea, eventually" 🎸🎶
@chrisretired5379
@chrisretired5379 16 күн бұрын
Right on, rock on LaMach ! 👍👍🎼🎼
@Mike-ym6rl
@Mike-ym6rl Ай бұрын
It’s remarkable that buildings are typically planned with a lifespan of just 50 years. I hold the view that this approach is deliberately encouraged and endorsed by the influential figures of our world. Instead of seeking approval, we should forge ahead toward more sustainable practices without waiting for anyone’s sanction.
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 Ай бұрын
We have become a "throwaway society". Our municipal dumps are bursting full. Home appliances are not repaired - they're replaced. Automotive repairs are often replacement of entire modules. An expensive computer is discarded when one tiny soldered element fails. And so many buildings are torn down because they are "obsolete".
@shailajakaranth5727
@shailajakaranth5727 8 күн бұрын
Another building material that is thrown away are tiles! Buy an old apartment and the buyer will surely tear the ‘old tile’ down and install ‘ modern’ design tiles…..however good condition the old tiles maybe…. ,
@Fetherko
@Fetherko 6 күн бұрын
& Our wood framed house is 100 years old. Owned it for 36 years!
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 6 күн бұрын
@@Fetherko I lived for 30 years in a wood-framed house built in 1771. Now I've lived in my custom-built wood-framed retirement home for 23 years.
@sd-xk7qr
@sd-xk7qr 4 күн бұрын
@bobrogers99 but why is this the case? What are the underlying economic and cultural reasons that led to this?
@Tindog81476
@Tindog81476 Ай бұрын
Urg the trend that is bugging me right now is in my home city we have a bunch of really nice red brick-clad buildings, and for whatever reason everyone feels the need to paint all the wood, brick, insides, furniture everything blank white. I'm so sick of white, it's the concrete color of the 21st century. White is nice, too much of it though is just painful. No color, we can't have color anymore, everything must be white. Then in front of these houses, they take the lawns and make them artificial turf because covering our organic lawns... in plastic is a great way to save the planet, don't have real plants just imitate them with plastic.
@JakeHGuy
@JakeHGuy Ай бұрын
Oooof a lot of people in my neighborhood are doing that to their brick houses. Which is so weird to me because the brick never looked old.
@Tindog81476
@Tindog81476 Ай бұрын
@@JakeHGuy Same... I know right, what's wrong with brick?
@newolde1
@newolde1 Ай бұрын
Yeah what a gross trend. It's as though people want everything to be a homogenic giant mental institution.
@Domsfun
@Domsfun 10 күн бұрын
Lawns leaves in mass are able to produce oxygen which is very important in cities. Help absorb water and reduce erosion and flooding. They also have a cooling effect. The leaves breathe in CO2 and exhale O2. The carbon is in the roots. Mixed with trees plants and shrubs is very effective mitigation for the above reasons. They also help with noise pollution to a degree. Why you would want use plastic lawn is beyond me. Due to the processes and life span of concrete the cost isn’t really sustainable or effective. Resources are finite. While it may cost more for other construction in long run for the life of the building is cheaper and more likely to retain real estate values. These buildings even as shells from lack on maintenance especially on wooden and glass fixtures still go for millions in city areas to be rebuilt and redesigned into more modern architectural designs using different mediums. Personally I find it offensive to disrespect the architecture from the period the building was constructed in. There is a beauty in the old architectural designs that modernism and brutalism totally disregards.
@daxisperry7644
@daxisperry7644 5 күн бұрын
It really is an annoying sterilization. Starting to drive me nuts too.
@Chocolate-wb1bu
@Chocolate-wb1bu Ай бұрын
Another greatly underestimated material is just metal itself. There are plenty of metal alloys that are corrosion resistant so they last a very long time, and can be very beautiful as well, just look at historic cast iron facades. You'd keep the advantage of affordability too, since you can just press and stamp a large variety of beautiful shapes into metal plates, so there is no need for expensive artisans. Not to mention you don't need much of it since it's so strong, so less material has to be used and mined, and it's 100% recyclable as well so once it's produced it stays in circulation, plus you can process it with renewable energy. With proper interior insulation you don't have to worry about heat and sound either.
@accidentalchrist
@accidentalchrist 26 күн бұрын
I agree so much business interests lobby for policies to make cement and steel bars to be a standard
@hofimastah
@hofimastah Ай бұрын
Another great episode. Also Roman concrete was a bit different and it has self repairing properties. Practical engineering channel has a great video about it 🙌🙌🙌
@blerg
@blerg Ай бұрын
Architect here. About carbon capture technology(CCT) - the NORM here in Norway, after grilling the concrete industry-representatives(Betonmast): they capture the CO2 with a filter at the factory, and put the pressurized co2 in tanks. These tanks are then shipped by truck to the coast, where they they are loaded onto ships, which are then.... dug into the seabed. Literally putting their problems in the silt.
@mattllaves
@mattllaves Ай бұрын
So much energy and fuel being spent on transportation, pressurizing and even the capture, this makes absolutely no sense
@blerg
@blerg Ай бұрын
@@mattllaves They've just figured out how to play the Co2 regulations so it looks good on the spreadsheet. There's alot of awareness and regulations being discussed to avoid greenwashing like that fortunately. Notably, there's an anti-greenwashing pledge that most architecture and engineering companies are part of, where they use other measures in addition to Co2 to measure sustainability. In 2021 we(the government) also implemented a 50-year rule for all new buildings, meaning they must last 50 years without serious maintenance. Most architects and engineers worth their salt are also aware that designing buildings that can be adapted to future changes in use and needs, be easily maintained, not to mention simply being beautiful will make any building last much longer.
@accidentalchrist
@accidentalchrist 26 күн бұрын
This is the most stupid activity I have ever had even if it's about carbon credits and climate change bs, CO2 is less than 0.04% in the atmosphere
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 22 күн бұрын
I wonder if they really do that, or they fake it?
@benjigray8690
@benjigray8690 16 күн бұрын
Here's something that very few folks are talking about,; All plants and trees need Sea oh two to live. And very few folks know about what a miniscule percentage of our atmosphere is c 0 2. Trees and plants absolutely devour untolds of see oh too. And we spend a fortune dissolving it, (under pressure), into our drinks , no one likes flat beer or soft drinks. Would any University educated folks like to help me write and publish a book called "A hundred and one uses for si oh two".
@greenleafyman1028
@greenleafyman1028 10 күн бұрын
There is also a Chinese concrete where you don't have to wait 50 to 100 years, they can collapse halfway through the building progress.
@user-ew5eh2co5p
@user-ew5eh2co5p 3 күн бұрын
Don’t be foolish. Every country has construction problems, the US has her share.
@jomolhari
@jomolhari Ай бұрын
Ok no, first of all. If this is a problem you think nobody is talking about, it's because you're not related to the engineering and construction world. And if you are not indeed related to that field, I understand the existence of the video, because it's pretty uninformed. For all the problems you described, there are a lot of ways to avoid/solve them, to the point that it's 100% the builders to blame. For freezing conditions you have additives, for coastal buildings you have noncorrosive steel, additives that close the pores of concrete, special paintings. For alcali the only solution i know of is to choose the right materials beforehand, it's something that's not common at all in my area. All pathologies have been studied, documented, analyzed. There are a lot of publications of a lot of laboratories and professionals that investigate how to solve them. None of them is a "dark true" or "something not talked about". It is extremely important that professionals are well trained in the material. That's the main reason of all the pathologies associated with reinforced concrete. Just don't blame the material for the errors of the builders. If contractors in your area build poorly, denounce them, not their field.
@uisgeuisce
@uisgeuisce Ай бұрын
This channel just shits on everything that is not "classical"... Of course they have no idea what they are talking about.
@benjigray8690
@benjigray8690 16 күн бұрын
@@uisgeuisce Re. the two previous comments; Non tradesmen are welcome to talk all they like about how producing cement produces more sea oh too than aviation. I don't believe THAT for a moment. Repair folks call the problem of rebar rusting "Concrete Cancer". If rebar is covered with enough concrete, our atmosphere cant harm it, also there is just so many way to extend the life of structures made of rc Concrete, i'd take a month to explain it. I thing you two guys sound like you have some "real world experience", in the building and construction industry. Time is valuable, so I'm gunna leave the discussion to the university educated folks to have a text book talkfest.
@uisgeuisce
@uisgeuisce 15 күн бұрын
@@benjigray8690 no idea why you are replying to me and what's your point. I'm an architect and this channel is not sincere in his analysis to the point of making shit up. Don't have time either to lecture people on the internet.
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman Ай бұрын
Also look into reinforcing concrete with graphene. The results are quite dramatic - stronger concrete that can reduce the amount needed by 2/3c IIRC.
@coolmeister522
@coolmeister522 Ай бұрын
Fiberglass rebar or basalt fiber rebar is the answer to issues with steel reinforcement. It has many properties that are actually superior to steel and it will effectively last forever. Roman concrete had ash and clumps of unmixed lime that kept the concrete itself from eventually cracking and breaking down. Concrete is best used for foundations and slab floors where, if properly insulated, drained, and not on poor soil, it experiences only compression forces and is uniformly supported by the earth.
@csabagajdos1215
@csabagajdos1215 Ай бұрын
More industry needs more people. Both needs more buildings. People need livable spaces. They need it as cheap as possible. These are the basic problems, modernists tried to solve. Arches and vaults need hight, stone and brick walls are thick. They mean less useable space in the building. Slabs are more cost effective made of steel, later of reinforced concrete, also walls. Ornament costs a lot, but is not "useful". (Beautiful, but who cares?) Modernists tried to make philosophy for the new material: "The beauty is the aestethic of structure". In some cases it is, but generally the investor is not interested, or there is no time to refine the plan, or the architect is not gifted or trained enough to make beautyful plans. Some architests are "artists" who make statues for themselfes... So that's what led to the overuse of reinforced concrete. Meanwhile the knowledge of making ornaments or vaults has been almost lost during 20th century. To build any form made of concrete is easy and builders have its knowledge. Making vaults need more time, makes more cost. The main drive force here is to build quick and cheap.
@adrian.farcas
@adrian.farcas Ай бұрын
you are making an honest argument, but wasting your time here - the audience is a bunch of traditionalist snobs, who only care for their narrow privileged "visions".
@alexsmith-ob3lu
@alexsmith-ob3lu Ай бұрын
The end of WW2 brought about all this “quick and cheap” short sighted ideas of reinforced concrete. So much needed to be rebuilt as fast as possible for little cost, so most countries went the short sighted route that is now having disastrous consequences on us.
@rokos.1239
@rokos.1239 Ай бұрын
​@@alexsmith-ob3luwhat else could they do? Let people sleep on the streets? Specially with baby boom. You pretend like they had options specially countries hardest hit by the war.
@petertrypsteen
@petertrypsteen Ай бұрын
Partial solution for reinforced concrete: use synthetic basalt instead of steel or iron with or without coating(s).
@Khannea
@Khannea Ай бұрын
The building material of the future will be melted rock - by _sintering_ stone into a basalt like agglomerate we can create almost indestructible bricks in any shape imaginable. By assembling these bricks on site acording to computer aided design, you can erect extremely longlasting and absolutely beautiful structures by fitting these tgogether as Lego blocks - which allows deassembly and recycling blocks in the future. Variants of this asembly of hyperdurable rock components are 3D printing sintering desert sand thrugh a freznel lens - as wonderfully evidenced my Marcus Kayser.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Does this technology already exist?
@jennijenjenjen
@jennijenjenjen Ай бұрын
I believe this is the plan with constructing habitats on the Moon, and eventually Mars. By cooking the regolith we will be able to fly there with less materials, making it more cost efficient, among other benefits.
@kristofp72
@kristofp72 Ай бұрын
Sounds like incredible amounts of energy needed to do this.
@septanine5936
@septanine5936 Ай бұрын
but is it relatively cheap and easily scalable? cuz if not, it's unlikely to catch on large-scale
@focojeepr
@focojeepr 24 күн бұрын
Why waste the energy when earth already made rocks and it is comparatively much less energy to just mortar them together. This seems foolish.
@MrZkinandBonez
@MrZkinandBonez Ай бұрын
Great video. I already dislike the look of concrete buildings, but I had no idea they were so impractical as well. Love the visual presentation of your videos as well, and I'm glad to see you're comitting to your unique illustrated visual style. They're not just fun and stylised, but their simplicity also helps make the more complex explanations (such as how the rebars can get rusty) easier to comprehend.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Thank you! Will double down on our unique look :)
@Ithirahad
@Ithirahad Ай бұрын
It's notable that there are non-corroding rebar options. Fibreglass rebar is already on the market, and other options probably exist.
@Ganily
@Ganily Ай бұрын
Epoxy coated rebar and stainless steel rebar is already common
@Khanfuzed1
@Khanfuzed1 Ай бұрын
interested in some of the ash self healing concrete as well. curious what lifespan pf fiberglass is~ how rigid is it?
@Mooooov0815
@Mooooov0815 Ай бұрын
@@Khanfuzed1 For many applications fiber reinforced concrete is similar to steel reinforced concrete. However, many of the fiber approaches give me strong asbestos vibes.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Yes, true - but the cost is often prohibitive. Still, it is one of the solutions. Maybe that will be the way of the future
@Descriptor413
@Descriptor413 Ай бұрын
@@Mooooov0815 To be fair, if even asbestos was embedded deeply in concrete (and never exposed), it would be fine. It's when it powderizes and gets into the air that the mesothelioma can-can starts.
@kellymoses8566
@kellymoses8566 Ай бұрын
rebar in concrete used in buildings isn't really susceptible to corrosion anymore than steel beams are. rebar corrosion is only really a issue for concrete exposed to weather.
@KoboraBC
@KoboraBC Ай бұрын
I love this channel
@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva
@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva Ай бұрын
Very well said! There is nothing worse than soul crushing concrete and your solutions sound pretty viable. Also, in Italy, even most of the "newer" buildings today are still built with arches, you can find them in the neighbourhoods built in the 1950s to 1980s in cities like Venice, Milan and so on. Now I wonder if the glass industry is causing similar problems for the environment, especially coupled with concrete...
@ivancrnkovicbj
@ivancrnkovicbj 29 күн бұрын
Modernist philosophy of architecture is more of a problem than cons of reinforced concrete, and that philosophy also influenced modern design standards. Reinforced concrete definitely has it's problems, but you can't advocate for old building techniques without considering earthquake, soil conditions etc. It can be very misleading for architects and investors to think they can build unreinforced masonry building in seismic area. You cannot economically design for earthquake loads and expect no (high) tension forces in your structure. Not to mention load distribution through diaphragms, uneven settlement of foundations etc. Reinforced concrete enables relatively simple and cheap earthquake resistant buildings and fixes a lot of other problems buildings use to have. If standards (Eurocode etc.) were different, durability can easily be +100 years or even more for RC buildings with smart details and concrete protected from exposure to negative influences as much as possible. I'm all for traditional and beautiful architecture, not this modernist crap that is being built everywhere, but it needs to be adapted for 21st century safety standards. We should combine following old principles of following forces in our structures with using traditional materials as much as possible, but strategically combining it with materials like RC, steel and timber to build beautiful, long-lasting buildings resistant to earthquakes, high wind loads etc.
@charlo90952
@charlo90952 Ай бұрын
Earthquake resistance is a consideration. Unreinforced masonry structures are very vulnerable.
@rando5673
@rando5673 Ай бұрын
So use nature's ultimate, infinitely renewable engineering material: wood. There are plenty of 500 year old wooden structures still standing because repairs are easy and it's really damn strong. We don't need 50-storey high-rise apartments if office work isn't concentrating all the jobs in 50-storey office buildings
@jeffreychongsathien
@jeffreychongsathien Ай бұрын
Please do a video on shiny glass buildings. I'm convinced Foster & Partners are architectural terrorists.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Glass is definitely a good topic, and the so-called ‘transparency’ of these buildings
@gabetalks9275
@gabetalks9275 Ай бұрын
They made multiple designs for the WTC and literally every single one looks hideous.
@hydrocharis1
@hydrocharis1 Ай бұрын
​@@the_aesthetic_cityAnd how these buildings get both cold in winter and hot in summer and thus are very energy-intensive. They didn't care about that in the 50s and 60s but somehow architects keep building them to this day.
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 Ай бұрын
Glass itself has a very long life, but we install it into metal frames in our buildings, and those frames will corrode.
@eazydee5757
@eazydee5757 Ай бұрын
Hello Aesthetic City, what are your thoughts on the return of murals to public spaces (particularly indoor public spaces) in newer classically-designed architecture? Murals, bringing a painted form of life, emotion, and beauty to public and common spaces, were quite common in older, classically and traditionally-designed buildings, but don’t seem to be too common in newer classical/traditional buildings nowadays.
@lance-biggums
@lance-biggums Ай бұрын
Entirely depends what the mural is. If it's some Cleon Peterson piece I'm gonna have to pass on that
@justjosie1163
@justjosie1163 Ай бұрын
A mural to the classical standard is one thing. Unfortunately, the murals I have seen have been childish, dehumanizing monstrosities.
@rachelnidhugain5398
@rachelnidhugain5398 Ай бұрын
I love your work ❤️ your videos are always thought provoking
@josephrizzoiii
@josephrizzoiii Ай бұрын
I have been anti-rebar from the beginning, so nice to hear someone else talk about this.
@lotx5364
@lotx5364 Ай бұрын
Does the limestone not get eroded? I studied a limestone landscape and the limestone is susceptible to be eroded by acid rain. Acid rain dissolves limestone because the limestone reacts with the rain to create calcite which is soluble. I only know about Karst landscapes though, is something done with buildings to make them less susceptible to this?
@atherzaidi5871
@atherzaidi5871 25 күн бұрын
Please search Red Fort of New Delhi and Agra Fort in India. They are standing for 400 years or so.
@EEC350
@EEC350 Ай бұрын
I will watch every single one of your videos as soon as it comes out. They are all so good! Thanks for what you do 🥰
@Oldhogleg
@Oldhogleg 25 күн бұрын
Left out the major drawback in using compression only construction; being limited to low rise buildings, especially in earthquake areas
@tealkerberus748
@tealkerberus748 9 күн бұрын
Earthquakes can happen anywhere. And even low-rise, I wouldn't want to be in an unreinforced masonry building when an earthquake hits!
@0MoTheG
@0MoTheG 9 күн бұрын
You can still use steel outside of the concrete or coat it.
@tealkerberus748
@tealkerberus748 7 күн бұрын
@@0MoTheG If the steel isn't embedded in the masonry it's not going to work the same way. I think we need to completely re-engineer how we do concrete. Purely compressive design with no reinforcing isn't the way, and mild steel reinforcing that rusts within a century isn't the way either. People are using basalt fibre with good effect where it's properly engineered, but it you get it wrong you have a concrete structure that fails without warning - one of the advantages of steel reinforcing is that the concrete can fail and you'll see it crack and sag but the steel holds it together long enough to evacuate the building. Getting that feature with non-rustable internal reinforcing is easier said than done, but that's what we need to do.
@0MoTheG
@0MoTheG 7 күн бұрын
@@tealkerberus748 Yes it does not, but steel can take both loads. To make a floor you can use steel beams and lay fiber enforced slabs ontop.
@Leo-if5tn
@Leo-if5tn Ай бұрын
Hope this channel gets the attention it deserves!
@Tickettoriderailway
@Tickettoriderailway Ай бұрын
Long term we should be looking at materials such as basalt, no CO2 reaction to worry about! This would require new building regs so not a short term solution. For now I like the idea just using stone and craftsmanship!
@petersvan7880
@petersvan7880 Ай бұрын
Excellent report, thank you!
@JoLOD
@JoLOD Ай бұрын
thank you for this video !
@ChristianWagner888
@ChristianWagner888 Ай бұрын
Well, living in reinforced concrete structures is not so common in Germany and probably not so common in much of Europe. Individual houses are built from brick (Poroton thermal clay blocks for example) and much of apartment housing for rent up to 4 floors uses such porous bricks as well or lime-sand-brick (Kalksandstein) for the structure and decorative clay bricks for the facade. Outside of earthquake zones, reinforced concrete is rarely used for low-set residential structures. Only high rise apartments and public/commercial buildings use reinforced concrete a lot. Modern basements and floor slabs are usually made from reinforced concrete though. My grandfather's house, with wooden floors, lasted from the 1930's to the 1980's with minimal renovations. Since then many things have been refreshed and new materials have been introduced, but the structure is basically the same. It will certainly last over a hundred years, but probably needs to be thoroughly rehabilitated every 40 to 50 years. Whether those highly insulated modern residential structures last more than 50 to 75 years is doubtful as well though, due to the complexity of modern building systems which often include foil layers for air proofing and water proofing and polystyrene on the outside of the facade. The wall structure could possibly last more than 100 years, if the modern thin mortar-glue for the insulating Poroton blocks lasts that long., but heating systems, plumbing, electrical systems, roof and wall insulations all expire much faster than reinforced concrete.
@worldspam5682
@worldspam5682 28 күн бұрын
Oh, you germans call those white porous bricks "Whyte porous bricks" too? 😂
@r.b.l.5841
@r.b.l.5841 Ай бұрын
A vid where we say "concrete" has this long term problem, then explain the problem is the steel...
@colesonafrank5329
@colesonafrank5329 27 күн бұрын
While the video did focus on the detrimental effects of rebar corrosion on concrete it also briefly mentioned some of the degradation processes that are inherent to Portland cement's hydration bonds and porous nature. Much of the Portland cement empire/industry exists as desperate(ly profitable) efforts to overcome its fundamental flaws with admixtures (e.g. water reducing plasticizers) and supplemental materials (e.g. alumina-silicates to take transform excess alkali from being detrimental to advantageous). Make no mistake, the problems (and thus short-term profitability and long-term planned obsolescence) of Portland cement result from its calcium based chemistry. It will never be a sustainable building material and every effort should have been made to develop far superior alternatives like alkali-activated alumina-silicates, introduced by the Romans and rediscovered back in the 1950s by the Russians and used for years for things like bomb-resistant bunkers by the US military. Unfortunately, attempting to maximize private profit/power guarantees that solutions to problems which minimize complete life-cycle costs will be systematically and resoundingly opposed, obfuscated and otherwise buried until the real costs of uncontrolled capitalism become catastrophic (e.g. the currently changing climate).
@mdhazeldine
@mdhazeldine Ай бұрын
Very interesting topic and informative video. One of your best thus far.
@kiwago1172
@kiwago1172 8 күн бұрын
It's not just sand where there's a problem. Gravel is either mined in pit mines or just collected from mountains. This is a big problem in Los Angeles. Over here they are deleting mountains because it's cheaper to transport locally.
@shimogarcia
@shimogarcia Ай бұрын
I'm a simple man: I see a new video of The Aesthetic City, I like it and then I watch it.
@TheManHimself94
@TheManHimself94 Ай бұрын
Same!
@disposabull
@disposabull Ай бұрын
I wish the did more videos, it's a good influence on the world and needs more views.
@onstructures
@onstructures 29 күн бұрын
The reason the pantheon still exists is that every generation since decided that this one building was worth preserving. The plain concrete developed large cracks had to be found and repaired to prevent collapse. It should be obvious that every building cannot receive such treatment.
@timrockman7
@timrockman7 26 күн бұрын
Very eye opening video! I worked for a company that built kilns and furnaces using angle iron frames to support high temperature concrete structures. For the disk shaped lids of crucible furnaces which were less than 4 inches thick, we used stainless steel fiber mixed into the castings concrete. The cured pieces were extremely tough and they could withstand hundreds of strikes from a sledge hammer. I had to break a lid out of its frame once because of a dimensional mistake and the effort needed was amazingly intence.
@side-fish
@side-fish Ай бұрын
My issue with concrete is that the building is homogenous and thus construction has to be continuous. If only it was more modular, then you can just replace the elements individually. Thankfully, there is precast concrete where you can just remove only the damaged portion instead of destroying the entire structure. Of course, depending on the structure, mileage can vary.
@jeffreychongsathien
@jeffreychongsathien Ай бұрын
The human species isn't evolved enough to incorporate closed loop/full life cycle thinking into its activities.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
We will need to if we want to keep growing as a society
@justjosie1163
@justjosie1163 Ай бұрын
So we have devolved? Because for many centuries we absolutely built in such a manner.
@accidentalchrist
@accidentalchrist 26 күн бұрын
Thanks to Marxist proponents
@panzrok8701
@panzrok8701 Ай бұрын
Its really depressing how most new buildings look disgusting and detached from history and culture. Its really hard to not vandalize them.
@aldanesh2680
@aldanesh2680 Ай бұрын
Your videos are amazing! I'm learning more from you than I learnt from most of the professors at university. Thank you a lot
@DanielMasmanian
@DanielMasmanian Ай бұрын
Excellent and frightening. Thank you
@RonRobertson-lafrance
@RonRobertson-lafrance Ай бұрын
This was really informative and interesting.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@marchelandersen6839
@marchelandersen6839 Ай бұрын
use basalt rebar instead of iron ferro no rust cracking
@JohnMckeown-dl2cl
@JohnMckeown-dl2cl Ай бұрын
There are some products for reinforcement that can be used in the short term during the transition such as epoxy coated rebar or fiberglass rebar, but you are right going back to the old materials would be very beneficial except for very tall buildings where it would not be as practical. Good video.
@eugenesteenhuisen4065
@eugenesteenhuisen4065 10 күн бұрын
Threat topic. I have often thought about this problem and now you have explain it perfectly.
@PhoenixHen
@PhoenixHen Ай бұрын
The more you know, the sadder you become...
@robertozeladarodriguez5321
@robertozeladarodriguez5321 Ай бұрын
What a great video, in the architecture course there is not much mention of the disadvantages of reinforced concrete or other solutions like the ones in the video.
@kenmorrisproducer
@kenmorrisproducer Ай бұрын
Noting that pink rebar (made of fiberglass) is stronger, lighter, cheaper, won’t corrode and it’s a fun color. Sodium bicarbonate can be added to dry mix to reduce the c02 emissions of concrete as it cures, and in the cement manufacturing process, the heat used to make the portlandite can be reclaimed to generate electricity. Same with the emissions. It just requires government legislation to do so.
@StevenCalabro
@StevenCalabro 6 күн бұрын
Fascinating Video! I have always been in love with different building structure and materials. I live in Florida now and I notice concrete driveways crack within the first year of being poured. I see how the pavers last much longer especially on such soft soil. Thank you for your video.
@dwwolf4636
@dwwolf4636 26 күн бұрын
There's always Stainless or basalt rebar.
@maximiliennicodeme5309
@maximiliennicodeme5309 Ай бұрын
Great video! Very interesting subject that we learn about in architecture school but that civil engineers don't care about. I'm a dual-trained architect and engineer, and this question of a return to geometry in the natural order has been on my mind... The question is how to introduce these more reasonable construction methods into a capitalist system that relies solely on short-term profit? We still have a lot of work to do in this direction...
@unconventionalideas5683
@unconventionalideas5683 Ай бұрын
I am glad that increasingly more US construction is conducted with OSB. This material is a wood material that is arranged into square or rectangular panels and structurally strong, regardless of the direction of the grain of wood that is used to manufacture it. so long as it is kept away from water, it is a very robust material that survives well in terms of earthquakes. This material is also relatively easy to treat to improve fire resistance.
@fgoindarkg
@fgoindarkg 5 күн бұрын
OSB construction is the bane of firefighters because it burns fast and it is toxic and has a short lifespan. I suspect the above comment is from a bot.
@sieg4607
@sieg4607 Ай бұрын
I wrote a paper on this topic earlier this year, good to see this is getting attention!
@Myria83
@Myria83 27 күн бұрын
I'd be interested in reading it...
@christijanrobert1627
@christijanrobert1627 Ай бұрын
By way of observation amongst the people in my life, both sides of the spectrum, I find most post-modernist artsy-fartsy types are fairly left-leaning and with this video, you are convincing them their less-than-lovely, preferred styles are actually unsustainable. For some people who love their brutalism or the 'cult of the ego' style buildings, this argument to choose alternatives to concrete may cause cognitive dissonance in many, leading to some who might... just might actually have to accept that their beloved 'beauty is in the eye of beholder' monstrosity is hurting the environment and cheap materials that form our cityscapes lead to eventual 'dis'function. Me, personally I love this argument and whole heartedly would love to see a renewal in beauty in architecture. A revival of beauty is necessary for the sake of humanity's soul. As such, I am convinced even more and have learned a great deal. Dank u wel. As for the above-mentioned types, the questions remains: will facts win over entrenched feelings? These days, I can hope but I never hold my breath.
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Ай бұрын
Welcome to cognitive bias. It's harder to convince someone they are fooled than to fool them...
@christijanrobert1627
@christijanrobert1627 Ай бұрын
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 It's good to have a name for this form of bias. I will remember it now. Many thanks!
@aumenarys
@aumenarys Ай бұрын
Just so you know, for future videos, we pronounce the T in "béton bruT" in French ;)
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
French is hard 😭😅
@aumenarys
@aumenarys Ай бұрын
@@the_aesthetic_city 😂
@ivantuma7969
@ivantuma7969 6 күн бұрын
one building material that's on the horizon is, ironically ... coal. Light weight, weather proof, fire resistant (depending on the type), does well in both compression and tension.
@martijnkeisers5900
@martijnkeisers5900 Ай бұрын
Geweldige video, zoals altijd!
@derrickstorm6976
@derrickstorm6976 Ай бұрын
Is modern concrete worse than the ancient-er ones? Or is it the magnitude at which it is used?
@jakobresas3427
@jakobresas3427 Ай бұрын
Main difference I can think of is the steel used in modern concrete, which definitely will rust over a certain period. Ancient buildings like the pantheon didn't used it, as far as I know. Well honestly I guessed but I never heard of any giant roof renovation of the pantheon. Funny to ask before the video is online 🤣 But yeah I am also keen to see more of this beautiful made content
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting Ай бұрын
Steel reinforced concrete faces rust issues when the steel becomes exposed. This puts a life expectancy on all reinforced concrete. Unreinforced concrete can, in theory, last forever.
@bart_u
@bart_u Ай бұрын
The Roman concrete also used volcanic ash for better composition.
@Ithirahad
@Ithirahad Ай бұрын
@@bart_u They also had to heat their volcanic ash concrete mix to make it work properly, which would be kind of expensive for us.
@michaelomondi-gq5yh
@michaelomondi-gq5yh Ай бұрын
@@JohnFromAccounting then why modern builders used the steel at all if its worse ?
@madistamela5975
@madistamela5975 Ай бұрын
Fixed the title. "Concrete. Known properties and problems everyone in the field has known about for decades."
@mantisshadow8990
@mantisshadow8990 Ай бұрын
It seems that the quality of the videos have improved so I must congratulate Aestetic City for this. Keep up the good work!
@CoG3in1
@CoG3in1 Ай бұрын
Very interesting! I'm studying civil engineering and I'm very curious to see how this method might change the way we build
@kezyka6775
@kezyka6775 Ай бұрын
I'm afraid building to last 1000 years instead of 50 is greatly incompatible with the economic systems we have in place. They depend on deterioration of things to keep money flowing
@TheHappinessOfThePursuit
@TheHappinessOfThePursuit Ай бұрын
That’s why our economic system has deteriorated to collapse.
@SullenSecret
@SullenSecret Ай бұрын
Build with wood?
@Stockbrot_
@Stockbrot_ Ай бұрын
Money flows regardless. People don't just save their money because there is one less thing they have to spend it on
@lagringa7518
@lagringa7518 Ай бұрын
There's an over indulged interest in profit at any cost to humans, as opposed to living for a good sustainable life.
@alielkhoumsi4376
@alielkhoumsi4376 Ай бұрын
It’s actually because democracy has a high time preference.
@K.Dilkington
@K.Dilkington Ай бұрын
Another great video with easily digestible information that makes it easy to share with those not involved in the architectural rebellion.
@Dietsch_III
@Dietsch_III Ай бұрын
Amazing video!
@besconst
@besconst Ай бұрын
carbon fiber rebar can be a solution?
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
It can be! But very expensive
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 Ай бұрын
Concrete degrades due to water, with or without the rebar. So, buildings built in the 20th century last no less than buildings built for the previous 3000 years
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 Ай бұрын
I'm old, and I can remember highway bridges being built years ago, and many of them have had to be rebuilt recently! Some were not well maintained, and road salt speeded up the deterioration, but the cause was the corrosion of the steel reinforcing. Fifty years is far too short a lifespan for something so expensive as a highway bridge. If humans vanished from the earth, in a hundred years or so the evidence of our existence would not be most of our present-day architectural wonders. What would still be here are the stone structures built hundreds of years ago.
@henrycarlson7514
@henrycarlson7514 6 күн бұрын
Interesting , Thank You
@xspager
@xspager Ай бұрын
Do concrete have issues and they are all pointed out in the video? Yes. But pointing to buildings that were meant to last and trying to compare with comercial buildings is a mistake. Also at no point it was mentioned the issues with the old methods of construction.
@lifetime805
@lifetime805 Ай бұрын
All these good examples are from seismicly inactive Europe. Unreinforced concrete and masonry is a deathtrap in earthquake zones.
@ChristianWagner888
@ChristianWagner888 Ай бұрын
Here in the earthquake prone Philippines, every building (including residential) is built as a three-dimensional structural frame, with posts and beams forming a box structure, which is then filled with non-structural infill walls. Usually the the structure is reinforced concrete posts and beams and the infill is made from reinforced concrete hollow blocks. Alternatively the structure is made from steel beams and the infill can be any suitable walling or facade material including walls with light metal framing. Most floors are made from concrete, but light metal framing and fiber cement board can be used as well. - Some unreinforced churches built from bricks have survived hundreds of years, only to be demolished by recent 7+ magnitude earthquakes. The less durable housing of the poor and villagers made from coco-lumber, barely lasts more than 20 years and is less vulnerable to earthquakes, but very vulnerable to typhoons.
@eldinsmajlovic1554
@eldinsmajlovic1554 Ай бұрын
Awesome video!
@carolina.helena
@carolina.helena Ай бұрын
Stunning video, congrats for its quality and all the information that encompasses! To your list of problems I would also add concerns to human health: concrete has been linked to respiratory and musculoskeletal problems in construction workers, that are exposed long-term to its toxic dust in poorly ventilated construction sites. And it contributes to heat island effect in cities, which also comes with another array of public health risks. I wonder as well how we can economically reward a not-so-disposable way to build and motivate the sector to change its current approach!
@AntonioFerreira-mx1er
@AntonioFerreira-mx1er Ай бұрын
This is bs
@madistamela5975
@madistamela5975 Ай бұрын
No one will agree with you ...despite for your reasons.
@madistamela5975
@madistamela5975 Ай бұрын
This is KZfaq after all, no a textbook
@AntonioFerreira-mx1er
@AntonioFerreira-mx1er Ай бұрын
@@madistamela5975 people think that steel comes only in one variety, and concrete is the same everywhere, and for all type of buildings. Actually some years ago some companies tried to push stainless steel has a good alternative but no engineer accepted that due to the fact that steel and concrete must have the same dilation (inox dilates too much leading to cracks) , being this the main reason for concrete failure in some coutries that dont have good government control . Despite all that, it is true that steel degrades , concrete degrades. But then again maitenance exists , or should exist. Otherwise there would not exist an Eiffel tower in Paris, made with poor steel and poor thecniques for today standarts nor the Ingalls building (1903) in Ohio. Without maintenance all materials are cursed
@johnd.2114
@johnd.2114 Ай бұрын
Honestly, concrete just looks ugly
@MikesterCurtis
@MikesterCurtis 23 күн бұрын
A rectangular concrete block of offices or apartments on a grey day can really affect one's mood. What a profound video!
@lupus7297
@lupus7297 Ай бұрын
Great video!!! Very well researched from my perspective as a civil engineer.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Thank you!! That is great to hear
@nauji
@nauji Ай бұрын
I cant believe no one talks about this. We constantly get reminded that aviation is terrible for the environment etc. but no one sais that concrete is that bad.
@foobar9220
@foobar9220 Ай бұрын
Actually, lots of people do and I thought this was a widely known fact. The problem is that we have cornered ourselves by building unnaturally large cities and large apartment towers. And the only way to build that to an affordable price is by using loads of concrete. And of course, basically every architect involved in such buildings is a modernist and would choose concrete deliberately...
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
People are addressing it, but mostly focusing on the emissions. A problem of course, but the durability isn’t questioned as contractors and concrete manufacturers *like* the fact it decays and needs repair and reconstruction. They can keep building like that!
@chrisretired5379
@chrisretired5379 16 күн бұрын
What’s the latest news on the use of either basalt or fiberglass rebar ? Awesome video, thank you ! 👍
@CrankyHermit
@CrankyHermit Ай бұрын
Another great video - you're really good at this! I'm rather partial to mud buildings (adobe & rammed earth) and alternatives like hempcrete. It must be said, however, that concrete does have some unique strengths, in proper applications designed to last. It can also be beautiful, when used in creative ways. The addition of aggregates such as crushed brick or glass can provide visual and textural interest, as can the use of board-forming. Grouting recesses and voids in a subtly contasting color can make a nice effect. And there are lovely Japanese paving techniques using natural pigments in the mix and a scattering of small stones (and perhaps rock salt), embedded in the surface and exposed by washing during the cure. As with nearly any material, concrete's aesthetic potentials are only reached with sensitivity and some skilled labor. When used to its best advantage, it can even grow stronger and more beautiful with time.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
Thank you, and I fully agree - it is a very versatile material, and it can be beautiful, but the industrial application in the form of reinforced concrete is the major problem here. Hempcrete might be a future video topic!
@CrankyHermit
@CrankyHermit Ай бұрын
@@the_aesthetic_city Yes, of course you're right. And yes to a hempcrete video!
@yvehill
@yvehill Ай бұрын
Hempcrete, dustcrete (chunky sawdust), aircrete or foamcrete... still use Portland cement, but I would love to see your thoughts on them.
@maximus5668
@maximus5668 Ай бұрын
This channel is part of the new wave of bettering the world !!!
@jasonhawkins2717
@jasonhawkins2717 7 күн бұрын
Yes! Great presentation, most people don’t realize how unsustainable and vulnerable reinforced concrete is.
@Lou.B
@Lou.B 8 күн бұрын
Excellent!
@mastanmv
@mastanmv 17 күн бұрын
Great content! Keep up the good work which benefits the human kind and the environmental as a whole.
@vadymvv
@vadymvv 6 күн бұрын
We have concrete plant 10km out of city so it was very interesting to know what that giant spinning pipe is for. Thanks!
@euler4273
@euler4273 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the great video! It's crazy that modern architecture is so short-sighted, focusing on replacing previous buildings for the sake of shareholder's profit, which will again only last a few decades, while not making more housing that will last hundreds of years, and alleviate the increasingly large housing crisis.
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