So if my math is correct (combining the points from this video and the last one, 15 + 22), we're at a total of 37 ways that Miraculous Ladybug took an idea/concept from Shugo Chara and incorporated it into the show. Like I said in the video, please don't bully or harass anyone working on MLB. Miraculous has enough differences to give it its own identity as it does do things that Shugo Chara doesn't. BUT...you definitely can't deny how many similarities there are. Like...my goodness! While making the video I had at least 3 instances where I was like "Really? They aren't even trying to hide that they got this from Shugo Chara" lol (Btw, did you find the hidden Starlight Glimmer? 👀✨)
@wygnabeatriz75062 жыл бұрын
What about tokyo mew mew ??
@lapislotus21952 жыл бұрын
1:55
@dulce97072 жыл бұрын
@@lapislotus2195 👏👏👏
@Hikari1562 жыл бұрын
Ur avatar is so cute Aloubell. And a lot of ur points explain why I can't watch miraculous. It's too copy and paste in my opinion in a lot of ways. But still great video.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
@@Hikari156 thank you so much 🥰✨
@skydragonslayer98202 жыл бұрын
Saw the original video and despite never having seen Shugo chara,I definitely saw the inspirations miraculous took from it based on your video. After seeing this video, it sure looks even more like miraculous did take A LOT of inspiration.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was actually surprised I had more evidence to back up my initial claim than I thought haha
@sasanieba20172 жыл бұрын
Same! I've never seen Shugo Chara but this is painfully similar! I mean songwriters are sometimes under controversy because they used an element that is super similar to the original and this is just the same thing. Heck if the actress in Shugo Chara has a twin that has a son looking super similar to the cat guy i am out of here XD (not really I enjoy listening to Aloubell)
@ItssMelissa2 жыл бұрын
I'd previously never heard of Shugo Chara but to be honest all the things that are in Miraculous kinda just seem like those little things that you'd change if you were a fanfiction author trying to convert your fanfic into something original-
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
XD
@chibiparty23762 жыл бұрын
I might be remembering this wrong, but weren't black butterflies also used in Shugo Chara? And didn't Utau use Meikyuu Butterfly to transform the victims or something...?
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
🤯 Oh my goodness...I forgot that Shugo Chara had a butterfly motif with Utau! I forgot how she contributed to the bad guys, but the butterfly thing WAS a thing. Thanks for the info!
@elafila6883 Жыл бұрын
oh my god that's true utau also used her black diamond powers to control people or suck their energy or something like that when they listen to her music just like they use the peacock miraculous or fox miraculous wow.
@sunfvalley10 ай бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell i'm listening to you instead of watching and really thought you are talking about utau's butterfly😭
@Flummoxyn2 жыл бұрын
After seeing this all I can think about is how Luka looks like so much like Ikuto and Adrien reminds me a lot of Tadase aesthetically and with how Astruc views Adrien but with a more similar backstory to Ikuto He's basically just Ikuto mashed with Tadase with cherry picked bits from both of them
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Seems that way!
@lynkuromuno26422 жыл бұрын
And he give Luca ikuto looks
@whohangedmyname2 жыл бұрын
I mean if you view it with those lenses then the love interest creative process becomes painfully obvious. First the creator had 100% ikuto in mind (pv Felix) , then after receiving criticism he kept the cat boy and daddy issues idea but changed the character from Ikuto to Tadase (Adrien) aka the perfect wholesome prince.... AND then to make it worse, the creator also made a second "sanitized" version of Ikuto as Tadase /Adrien's love rival, aka Luka, who also like Ikuto, is a talented musician older boy with blue hair that doesn't go to the same school as the protagonist.... And has goth sister????
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
yup yup!
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I initially noticed the goth sister thing. Great catch!
@ree57brzi2 жыл бұрын
Even though I haven’t watched shugo it shocked me how much similarities these two shows have
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Yup yup! X3
@MI-mt4mb2 жыл бұрын
Also , In Both there's a musician Father who left his wife and two children (Aruto with Ikuto, Utau and their mom vs Jagged with Luka, Juleka and their mom) -and both have a character who is rich with blue hair and a very strict mother .(Nagihiko and Kagami )
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
GREAT POINTS
@MI-mt4mb2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell I also find another one .Adrien is controlled by his father with the ring just like Ikuto was controlled by his stepfather with the thing he used to control him in season 2.
@YellowMango122 жыл бұрын
No no cuz this getting to scary 😭 From the half of all the magical girl tropes that I watched, mostly some of them would be like just Asian.. but the fact what you brought up on number 22, got me shook. This one has half French and a half asian character as well.... I don't explore anime that much as I used to but when I was little, getting into anime, the half I explore the magical girls animes, I never see the Pacific: Asian / French character in my life 😬 It's scary cause like-.... Why was it so Pacific?!
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Yup! 37 (38 if you count another person's comment) similarities. That's too many to be a coincidence 😖
@Asexual_Individual2 жыл бұрын
If you analyse Adrien and Luka with Shugo Chara in mind, it's almost as if the writers made bullet points on Ikuto and Tadese's traits, shuffled them all together, then pulled them out at random to assign to Adrien and Luka. Those bullet points include: One of the LIs (love interests) is a cat boy, cat boy has an outward care-free personality but actually has a sad and controlling home life. the MC (main character) is in love with the blond popular boy who everyone in the school seemingly loves and who is viewed as "perfect". One of the LIs crosses the MC's boundaries while the other ML respects those boundaries, the LI who respects the MC's boundaries loses the love triangle in the end while the creeper is pushed as the endgame LI by the narrative. The losing side of the love-triangle have a brief relationship before things are broken off. LIs have blue and blond hair. One of the LIs has a non-romantic relationship with a blond-haired character who is an antagonist to the MC. One of the LIs plays the violin. Like you mentioned, the cat boy is forced into an evil transformation by their abuser. Cat boy's abuser is eventually portrayed in a sympathetic light despite having no guilt for their actions. One LI is the MC's age while the other is older. Etc. There are probably more similarities but I'm just pulling from the top of my head. And there are differences as well. Thankfully, Chat Noir never snuck into Marinette's bed or spied on her while she's dressed in nothing but a bath towel, and there isn't a creepy age difference between them. (The Wiki says that Amu is 10-12, while Ikuto is 15-17.)
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Very true everything you said!
@lynkuromuno26422 жыл бұрын
I like ikuto more than tadase tough eventough Tadase maybe better version of Adrien
@kou71912 жыл бұрын
"every other magical girl anime" .....the only other magical girl anime that I can think of that *needs* the magical girl to absorb the companion/mascot into an item to transform is Precure, and even that varies per season. Also, Plagg and Ikuto's chara (forgot his name, Yoru?) are practically the same character - both are mischievous, goofy, yet loyal chibi black cats. One could also argue Amu's lock and Ikuto's key "belong together" in the same fashion Mari's earrings and Adrien's ring are a pair.
@elmartinez28462 жыл бұрын
Number 21 really caught me offguard, there just too similar, so yeah im convinced MLB is heavily based on Shugo Chara if not possibly a soft copy. Thx Aloubell
@Goovdluck6872 жыл бұрын
they look so similar it's kind of scary
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
@@Goovdluck687 Right? The Shugo Chara mom is basically Emilie but with purple hair.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
It caught me off guard too lol I hadn't seen Shugo Chara in years, so I forgot what Lulu (the blond girl's) mom looked like. When I saw her I was like 😱 Dude! That's literally Emilie!
@samanthadesousa55022 жыл бұрын
I’m actually starting to read Shugo Chara since I’ve been obsessed with Miraculous Ladybug and Cat Noir recently and I’m thrilled to find a manga so similar with it
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I hope you enjoy it! 😁🥰
@laureldreams41082 жыл бұрын
I admit I was a bit scptical at first about this whole "Mlb is shugo chara ripoff" but I'm starting to see more of the similarities now. It seems like MLB took parts of SC that the creator particuallarly enjoyed and mixed them together to create a new spin on the story, wich I totally get, since I also get inspired by things I enjoy and try to remix them so they feel more original. I apologize if my coment in the first video came out as mean or something, I was just seeing the whole "general stuff most MG shows do" aproach more at the time
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Your comment wasn't mean at all! I have a feeling that's exactly what happened: Astruc took the parts of SC that he liked and spun them for his own story's purposes. I'm not upset at that. I just want SC to get the recognition and credit it deserves!
@moviehermit56312 жыл бұрын
Another show that I see MLB having similarities to is Randy Cunningham 9th Grade Ninja. Here's a rundown of the general plot - For 800 years, Norrisville has been protected by a ninja. Every 4 years, a new ninja is chosen - Randy Cunningham is a freshman at Norrisville High and has been chosen to be the next ninja - Randy is a regular person with no training. He is given two things; 1) The Ninja Mask (when it is worn, it creates a suit out of thin air, covers up the wearer instantly, and grants the wearer enhanced abilities and weapons). 2) The Ninja-Nomicon, the collective knowledge of all past ninjas - The main villain is an evil sorcerer trapped in a prison underneath the school, and can turn people into monsters when they are in emotional distress. He does this by sending out his magic (referred to as "Stank") and latches onto an object the victim holds most dear. The more chaos the monster generates, the stronger the sorcerer gets, and if he gets strong enough he can escape his prison and take over the world. To stop the monster, Randy has to destroy the object that's been "Stank'd". The person in question cannot remember what happened while they were "stank'd" - Randy also faces off against an illustrious billionaire (named McFist), who is in cahoots with the sorcerer to destroy the ninja, help the sorcerer escape, and as a reward, be granted a wish in the newly conquered world - Randy often has to solve a riddle provided by the Nomicon to beat the enemy/learn a lesson on how to be a better ninja. And this is visualized through doodles he imagines - When the Ninja has finished their 4 years, they have to give up the mask, and mind wipe themselves of all knowledge of being the Ninja, passing their wisdom into the Nomicon for the next Ninja RC9GN was sadly cancelled after two seasons. It's a little annoying that shows like MLB have gone on strong while having little to no development or plot progression, yet shows like RC9GN are given the boot. I'll now list off the aspects of RC9GN that I find are more enjoyable than MLB. - Randy isn't presented as being the best ninja there ever was. He's young, he makes mistakes, he has an ego, and he isn't perfect. He's always learning a lesson, but it's never the same lesson. He rarely ever reverts as a character. The best way I can describe it is that he rises up, then stumbles a bit, but then rises up higher. - The formula is never identical. Sometimes he fights monsters, sometimes he fights robots, sometimes he fights monsters and robots, sometimes he's the cause of the problem, sometimes it's his best friend Howard, sometimes it's both of them, sometimes it's something completely external - When there's destruction caused by a fight, it isn't magically fixed in the end. The damage remains, but is seemingly easily fixed in the nest episode. But there are still consequences - The villains aren't made to be sympathetic at all, but they are still comedic with how casual they are about it - The pacing never has a problem. The episodes have two different stories, each taking up about 11 minutes. They manage to fit so much stuff in those 11 minutes without it feeling rushed. Probably due to it not having a 30 second transformation sequence every time he puts the suit on, or an entire monologue by the villain as he describes the emotion and talks to the person he turns into a monster - Randy develops a crush on a classmate, and it feels so natural. It doesn't take center stage, it doesn't include convoluted confession plots, it's just two teens who like each other and one (Randy) is just a bit too awkward and busy with Ninja duties for it to become an official thing, but there are still moments that make the attraction feel genuine - The sorcerer's range is confined to the school area, his "stank" immediately turns a person into a monster, and they aren't conscious of their actions or able to form complex thoughts
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing that show with me! I've known about it from advertisements, but never quite knew the plot. Others have told me how similar it was to Miraculous, and I can see some similarities as you said! Especially how the villains operate--very MLB-like.
@johannesseyfried79332 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell Here is a Joke that I discovered from another Miraculous Reviewer on the Internet: So we have a Villain with a strange Fashion Sense trying to collect magical Artifacts with a connection to ancient Egypt, in order to bring back his dead Wife. Our Protagonists are a blonde Boy who constantly gets underestimated, comes from a neglectful Home and was mind controlled in the past. There's an arrogant and rich Rival who tries to solve all their Problems with Money and who often gets used or manipulated by the Villain. And our other Protagonist is a young Teenager with an unusual Hair color who transforms by using one of the magical Artifacts that the Villain wants. Thomas Astruc lied to us! We have just been watching the entire first Season of Yu-Gi-Oh! 😄
@sophieabigail95072 жыл бұрын
I have problems with Shugo Chara but at least it's not problematic as Miraculous does (the latter has A LOT of problems)
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
That's fair! ✨😁 And yes, MLB has quite a few problems 😖
@Uguiyomi2 жыл бұрын
You think ML ripped off Shugo Chara... watch Kamikaze Kaito Jeanne... a 2001 Magical girl show. I swear the concept is basically the same. A quirky main character with a little magical creature (an angel in Maron´s case) that allows her to transform into her alter ego to catch some akumas that reside into objects. Then we have the other guy who can transform with a similar creature as well. Both of them know each other in their daily lives but are clueless about their secret identities. also the main character has a best friend who somehow works to discover the superheroe-thief´s identity. i swear... Even the purification of the bad has the same vibe. check it out.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
I have heard about Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne and have been informed of its similarities to MLB. If I had to guess, MLB is a combination of Shugo Chara, Spiderman, and Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne. I'm more stuck on how Shugo Chara got no credit for being an influence DX
@Uguiyomi2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell oh i understand. i´ve the three of them. I got stuck into shugo Chara 2nd season and it is in fact one of the influences. btw i forgot to mention Randy Cunningham Ninja Total (sorry i know the title in Spanish since is my first language) wich also feels like and influence... great video.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
@@Uguiyomi Thank you! ^_^
@LJA1162 жыл бұрын
Okay, you did mention the main thing I had in mind when I commented on the last episode, namely the cat boy being under the thumb of the villain. I saw someone else commented with the purple butterfly motifs shared between Hawk Moth and Utau, but I found a couple other things glancing at Wikipedia for both: 1. Main character and cat boy come into possession of items belonging in a pair (the two specific Miraculouses/Humpy Lock and Dumpty Key). The lock even is what helps Amu transform, the key probably does the same for Ikuto? 2. Both Amu and Ladybug have an item (Humpty Lock/Yo-Yo) that allows them to purify those corrupted by the villain and help allies transform if they couldn’t already. 3. When the villain corrupts herself intentionally, she’s able to (help) corrupt a lot more victims.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
GREAT POINTS
@punipalsayshi26442 жыл бұрын
I know this video is two months old but has anyone noticed Felix somewhat similar to Ikuto? I mean besides the potentially inspired by Ikuto in concept- - He is the cousin of Adrien - Both used to be really close (Just like Ikuto and Tadase) - They also have a female friend with them (Chloe. Though sadly the writers don't bother with Chloe) - Felix and Ikuto are mischievous and aren't good nor bad. They are neutral - Felix and Ikuto has more freedom and is usually up to something - Kinda has harassed the MC 👁️👁️ but well, I wouldn't really count this since a lot of male leads does this in shoujo... - Felix and Ikuto wears dark clothes while Tadase and Adrien wears light clothes. Yeah that's common too but it's still funny since they happened to be cousins who does this - They have no problem with stealing or breaking in if it means getting what they want - They have been involved with the MC and the villains (in person to be exact) + doesn't really involved themselves with the side charas. Like I don't remember Ikuto conversing/meeting Kukai or Rima These may be nitpicking but again, the moment they became cousins- I can't help but to point these out
@aldyhabibie97172 жыл бұрын
If a show uses a trope that many other show uses, its likely not a rip-off. If a show uses many tropes and presented all of them in such a specific ways that is similar to only *ONE* show, Its probably a rip-off or the show is very *VERY* inspired by that other show, oh also emphasize on "very".
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@frogsandcats2 жыл бұрын
guys! blatantly copying from one source and stealing ideas is not the same as taking inspiration and using ideas from a source to create your own or make something more unique out of it!! magical girl shows like revolutionary girl utena and princess tutu, for example, both take inspiration from fairy tales and use fairy tale tropes along with magical girl tropes and implements them into their story, but its the way they implement them and the way they execute it! when you begin to compare these two shows, the difference between them are so visible its impossible to begin to try to find any more similarities up to that point other than “they both take inspiration from fairy tales.” or shows like madoka magica take a trope or concept and sort of “play” with it, or add a twist to that concept, therefore differentiating it from its predecessor. and unfortunately, as it looks, miraculous ladybug does not seem to do this and there are times when it’s blatantly copying shugo chara, not even taking inspiration, just straight up stealing ideas. it’s ok to still like miraculous ladybug but its important to rightfully acknowledge what it did wrong. copying is not ok!! anyways,, great work once again aloubell!! you continue to make some really good points. looking forward to your next video! 💕
@CB73682 жыл бұрын
True
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
You make really good points! ^_^ The reason I don't think Miraculous is 100% a rip off is because, yes it takes HEAVY inspiration from Shugo Chara, but some of the stuff it takes, it does use in a different enough way for it not to be a full on copy. For example, I feel Astruc took many of the Shugo Chara characters and either combined them to make new characters, or split apart one character's traits into different people. For example, Astruc could have taken Lulu (the blonde girl with blue eyes) and split up her characteristics to make parts of Marinette, Adrien, and Gabriel since they all share aspects of Lulu. Don't get me wrong, at this point, the Shugo Chara inspiration is BLATANTLY obvious (and some things it does legit copy) and I really wish someone on the Miraculous team would admit the inspiration already. Thank you so much for the thoughtful reply and for your support! ^0^
@mk-aka-morgan8386 Жыл бұрын
I'll be honest- I don't remember much about Shugo Chara Doki Doki- I thought it was way less entertaining than the previous season so my brain shot all those memories out of my brain 😬
@jamesprice60152 жыл бұрын
MLB is a rip-off?! I KNEW IT!
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
It has many MANY things in common with Shugo Chara 👀
@thecore20002 жыл бұрын
No
@SuperShana972 жыл бұрын
Oh Dang, I did not know there are more similarities between these two shows! I honestly haven't watched Shugo Chara in years because almost nobody ever mentioned that show because it's underrated! I think the most popular magical girl show is Sailor Moon (and maybe Cardcaptor Sakura especially the Clear Card manga is still going) because people still talking about it these days. Anyway, I think inspiration is good but not really a rip-off tbh. I think the most similarities I've seen were Lulu's mom and Adrien's mom because they looked so alike especially with the same hairstyles lol. One thing I want to comment on is that Emilie is inspired by Tara Strong but they still look alike... Also, I think her eyes are kind of bother me for some reason lol. But, the rest of them you mentioned are pretty interesting so I don't have much to say. Lastly, I feel like I enjoyed the manga more because it targeted the older audience more than the anime because it had more content and detail. Also, they have a better ending or I would say a "happy ending" lol. While the anime version is more like for kids especially season 3 was cringy I remember lol.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
It really is a shame that Shugo Chara doesn't get more recognition in pop culture! The idea is so unique and relatable, it could have honestly had a spin off if it wanted to. I more think that Miraculous took heavy inspiration from Shugo Chara and then used the ideas in their own way, building up from what it got from Shugo Chara. Yeah, it tends to be the case that the manga is better than the anime. Season 3 was definitely weird (especially with the live action segments), but apparently it IS canon (the anime part, not the live action parts), so it is a necessary thing to see if you want the full story lol I think the best contribution that last season brought was the opening theme song "Party Time." It's one of my favorite Shugo Chara songs ^0^
@SuperShana972 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell I actually agreed with you! I think Shugo Chara deserved more recognition because of what you said the show is really unique in its own ways and it is a lot different compared to other magical girls especially the main character too. Like she started out really cold personality and then later in the series she is more mature especially at her age which I really like about her. Other magical girl main characters are always Kluz, to be honest like we have so many of them in the past. And I really love "Arigatou Ookiku Kansha" opening because I find out so memorable and nostalgic, you can actually feel that time where the show begins if I'm describing it clearly.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperShana97 that's a great song too! Very fun to listen to 🥰 I saved most of Shugo Chara's songs to my song playlist I listen to haha
@sharonjonespalmer52252 жыл бұрын
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@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Aww thank you so much Miss Sharon for the kind words!
@sharonjonespalmer52252 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell You Are More Than Welcome 🙏🏾💜🙏🏾
@saladcaesar77162 жыл бұрын
About Adrien’s mom though, it’s a dead mother hairstyle. MC’s moms from FMA and SNK had it too. The author is probably playing into it.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
I know about the dead mother's hairstyle in anime lol I'm more pointing out how specifically similar THIS version of the dead-mom's hairstyle looks. There's multiple ways of doing a loose side ponytail, these ones just look too similar.
@amanekaze2 жыл бұрын
Oh fuck that, don't make me remember eren's mom 😭💀
@cutiepie1200482 жыл бұрын
I don't watch MLB, I have only viewed it from video analysis - but I HAVE seen Shugo Chara! It was my early days of watching anime, along with princess tutu and saint tail 🤣🤣🤣 I also forgot most of what happened, so I was caught way off guard when you explained IN DETAIL the similarities. It's too much to be a coincidence. Keep Up The Good Work~!
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
They are so suspiciously similar its ridiculous XD Thank you
@ravengreenwold32582 жыл бұрын
Came back to this video just to express what I actually suspect the root of MLB's problem is. I think the root of the problem isn't taking inspiration from other series but doing it in a way thats "just because its cool". I think the creator keeps adding elements without really purpose in some cases because he saw it elsewhere and its toooootally cool so hes got to put it in MLB without understanding how those elements work. Timetravel? WELL other magical girl shows had it and it was cool so it HAS to work for MLB (it didnt). Elemental dragon? Sounds cool has to belong here! MLB has a feeling like its not planned out.(Example: any similar powered zodiac animals, the whole time travel stuff, a lot of other aspects). Now is it a crime to put things you like in your writing? No but its important to remember purposeful design. For example princess tutu: It has the maincharacter be a duck turned human and another character is a prince. Both these elements are cool but they also fit into the existing motifs and themes of fairytales, ballet and swan lake mirroring two very very popular ballets. Every element inspired off something in princess tutu serves a narative purpose.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
That very well could be part of Miraculous' problem! Very well said!
@itwasmyname Жыл бұрын
Finally someone is talking about it! All this time I was thinking how no one noticed the similarity between the anime and the series🤐
@dangerbuffrocky2 жыл бұрын
I thought that Miraculous was based off of Sailor Moon: -The talking animal -The transformation -Queen Beryl is kind of like Hawkmoth -Some kind of love square -The villain of the day format
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
It has SOME things in common with Sailor Moon. But not as many things as Shugo Chara~
@kingofflames7382 жыл бұрын
Considering the design of the Quwarmy (not sure if that's spelled correctly) I'd say Pretty Cure was a more prevalent inspiration than Sailor Moon.
@cameliaminculeasa82882 жыл бұрын
@@kingofflames738 Yeah, I was thinking while watching the first video that some of the similarities can also be found in Pretty Cure too
@Oceane18032 жыл бұрын
Shugo Chara is so underrated and yet it has so much potential.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
It needs more recognition DX
@Oceane18032 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell Yes it was one of my first mangas and my first magical girl manga so obviously it had a huge impact on me ^^
@lynkuromuno26422 жыл бұрын
It's actually not underrated, it have 4 season for a reason back in the day but the 4 season is a flop
@Oceane18032 жыл бұрын
The number of seasons isn't a factor in this. It's underrated because they aren't that many people who know about the manga and anime. Especially compared to other Magical Girl series.
@eri_noemi1462 Жыл бұрын
Read the manga, NOT the anime. The anime was trash. Trust me, the manga is MILES better.
@mastertofu2 жыл бұрын
I think there's two possibilities. 1) Miraculous _is_ heavily inspired by Shugo Chara or 2) _Both_ Miraculous and Shugo Chara are based some something(s) even older. I don't think it's pure coincidence since I can definitely see the similarities.
@vampybyte78122 жыл бұрын
huh the "all magical girl shows are simuliar" statement is clearly from a newbie....as uh Sailor moon and madoka magica are VASTLY different. Pretty cure is a very successful magical girl series that is even more different from those two but it also shows some similarities to Shugo chara and miraculous...specifically the mascots helping the girls transform in a few of them. Princess tutu for heavens sake is like miraculous as well....uhm actually princess tutu seems to be another anime they ripped off from in terms of the plot. Princess tutu's identity is kept secret, princess tutu is also hopelessly in love with someone she can never confess to or else she vanishes. Princess tutu's alter ego is a girl named duck who is so clumsy and insecure she can only find her confidence in being princess tutu....huh weird.
@emmarald9752 жыл бұрын
Wow, I missed this. It's amazing :D Though now I've seen more, I think Ikuto's Death Rebel transformation more easily points to the Adrian is a sentimonster theory and Ephemeral than Chat Blanc. - -Ephemeral, the cat form Gabe takes in that episode and Death Rebel share a colour scheme of black and purple. - Ikuto transforms into Death Rebel/is controlled because of an heirloom from a parent (the violin from his real father, Emelie's ring) - If Ikuto resists control he can be brought back under it by wielding the connected object (the tuning fork, the ring) - Ikuto is mind controlled by his step father to get the embryo/wish object. - When Ikuto transforms into Death Rebel the transformation sequence surrounds him in black feathers. I don't mind Miraculous using some inspiration from Shugo Chara. I just have my fingers crossed that since season 2 ended with Amu unifying with all her Charas the next season of Miraculous will let us see a mass unification of all the miraculous.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Those are good points!
@andrewshearsby8125 Жыл бұрын
So basically Miraculous copies Shoujo Chara's home work
@hallucinxations8 ай бұрын
Well, the original airing of Shugo Chara was right around the time that Thomas Astruc began coming up with ideas for Miraculous in 2005. It's possible that he took some inspiration from it, but I could also believe that the similarities are just a coincidence as well. The concept of people being villainized by negative emotions and needing to be "purified" by the magical girl is a STAPLE among magical girl animes and by no means unique to Shugo Chara. The catboy thing could also have been an idea Astruc came up with on his own: black cats are a symbol of bad luck, making Chat Noir a perfect foil to Ladybug (a symbol of good luck) which is an important aspect of the show... Whereas Ikuto was just a catboy because... hot(???). The only similarity that makes me think he maybe was aware of Shugo Chara is the existence of the kwamis, but honestly, it could still have been something he came up with on his own. They're little animals, as opposed to little people, and their hi-jinks are a lot less obtrusive to the story. Plus, while they serve a similar function, they seem to be fleshed out enough (with their own lore and backstory with previous Miraculous users) that they stand on their own. But I agree miraculous is inspired by many animes and films including sailor moon, monster high, shugo chara ofc, spider man, winx and many other shows
@hallucinxations8 ай бұрын
this comment isnt made by me btw. I just added some extra info like the shows and stuff
@mirror16432 жыл бұрын
seems like flowering heart too, cool to see another magical girl anime i might like
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
^_^
@Zero_Gray2 жыл бұрын
The dead mom hair💀
@ladabudilova9262 Жыл бұрын
Bruh I need to rewatch Shugo Chara. I am sure I forgot more details and surely will find even more inspirations._.
@MiyuKawasaki2 жыл бұрын
ooo I'm so early!!! Gotta watch it right now!! :)
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🥰🥰
@user-pk3lf9ml7j2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist : MLB never knew about or watched Shugo Character
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
I suppose that's entirely possible!
@rosy_chan2832 жыл бұрын
- Off topic - Im legit debating whether i should sub or not lolololol (yesterday i subbed then few hours ago i unsubed but now i resubbed lolololol) i haven't seen myself being This indecisive In so long XD Edit: I've finally decided to sub! And i also noticed that your recent videos are a week apart. Which it could just be a mere conidence. If not, i wouldn't be worried about keeping up with your newest vids. ^^
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
haha thank you so much for subbing! I appreciate you being here ^_^
@simplestupiduwu4259 Жыл бұрын
Dude I feel like you should do a really big break down of Shugo chara. Possibly the manga vs anime or smth I like the manga sooooo much!!!!
@TheArtisticAloubell Жыл бұрын
Since I havent seen the show in so many years, I don't think I remember enough of it to make a full video unfortunately. But if i ever get around to rewatching it, I definitely could make a video X3
@fishurine_2 жыл бұрын
The first video I watched in your channel was the part one of “Miraculous ripping-off shugo chara” and I was no longer a mlb fan but still watched it and lol I agreed
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and for the support! ^_^
@Bransbow2 жыл бұрын
I watched Shugo Chara in 2020-2021 and somehow I missed all the Lulu similarities. I don't watch Miraculous, but my cousins and brother do (or used to) so I know the basics. Somehow Lulu and Hawkmoth never clicked in my mind but wow. I already realized most of your points in the first video but these seem more obvious yet I missed them.
@Akefia Жыл бұрын
I've watched both of your videos on this topic now and yes, while I have to agree with the people saying after the first video that most of your points are pretty common anime tropes, especially for magical girl anime, and even some in this video are...all of them together in one show can not simply be brushed of with a "DUH, THAT'S NORMAL FOR MAGICAL GIRL ANIME!". So many weird similarities can not be a pure coincidence. Mostly when it comes to setting, character design choices and character background. A little bit too suspiciously similar...
@alexcassanova90792 жыл бұрын
That's why miraculous ladybug reminds me of something I would watch years ago
@geraldinec11242 жыл бұрын
Hmm… though I see the inspiration, also I saw Miraculous ladybug similar to also “Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne”. If you watch the anime, you’ll see why.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Many people have told me about that anime! Hopefully I'll get a chance to check it out!
@thesoradog2 жыл бұрын
Late to the party, but if I am to be honest, there are too many points here. Some of them are very relevant, but a lot of them are a bit too nitpicky. I'd say mostly when talking about the "blonde person" and onwards. It doesn't help that they're the last ones too. It's not that they're necessarily not valid, just that the impact they leave is more a desperate attempt to dig the slightest similarity you can to seemingly have an overwhelming argument rather than proving a point with specific arguments that you thought were pertinent. Honestly, I always found them quite similar as well, especially when you count the love square situation and kwamis/shugos similarities (I hadn't even thought about the dark eggs which is to me now a huge point of similarity because I honest to god forgot most of the plot of that anime despite having watched it all when I was a kid), and adding the layer of the second season's villain by itself would've been very impactful, but the added arguments left more of a "trying too hard" vibe, which I doubt will convince the people who initially weren't convinced and which in the end works against the point of your video. I think the biggest problem would be the connection between the points that touch major concepts and situations within the series and the ones that delve into details. To illustrate what I mean with details, the mother's hair. The tragic caring mother archetype can often have that hairdo in anime. It's not a convincing argument not because it's not similar to the show, but because it's so alienated from the plot and common enough that it can very well be a coincidence. Taking those points apart more as weird coincidences rather than similar points would've drawn more attention to the fact there are strangely many similarities rather than lump them in with more poignant arguments and dampen the overall effect.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you could interpret this as me reaching, but these points did legitimately stick out to me as similarities (and again, its the specific combination of tropes, not just the tropes themselves). As for the mom's hair, I am aware of the dead mom's hair meme throughout anime. I was more calling this out because while the dead mom's hair is a thing, the specifically way it's styled in Miraculous and SC are very similar--with the smooth hair on top, no real bangs, and wavy ponytail. AND she also happens to be an actress >_> But at the end of the day, I respect if people decide not to agree with me. It's no big deal ^_^
@thesoradog2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell Eh, I don't think disagreeances are a big deal either, I was mostly speaking pertaining to the goal you mentioned within the video itself. I also realize my interpretation of some of these points do have some bias due to the fact I don't remember a lot about this show, which creates an effect where the elements I don't remember at all stick out less and seem less impactful overall. I still agree the show would clearly have some level of inspiration of Shugo Chaara. It might be simply subconscious though. Like the main idea was a derivative of the show, and during its construction, the author created bits and pieces that were inspired from the events and characters of the show, but unbeknownst to them. The elements come naturally because they're linked to the theme from how they were originally constructed. As for the credit part, I imagine the anime is not all that well known, so when speaking of inspiration, the more popular one comes first and takes all the place. It diverts eyes from the similarities of other works by using a juggernaut of the genre to create a contrast in style. Or maybe they just don't deem it important enough to mention cause they,d have to spend more time explaining what that show is than talking about their own show, while everyone's heard at least once of Sailor Moon.
@bingieboi2 жыл бұрын
I mean shadowmoth is VERY similar to the villain in Randy Cummingham Ninth Grade Ninja .
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
I've heard! ^_^
@artisthetic6281 Жыл бұрын
ngl onegai! my melody also has quite a few similarities to mlb too, especially the third season (onegai! my melody sukkiri). idk if this has been said before tho lol
@c.lineofficial2 жыл бұрын
right now I'm thinking miraculous is so popular that I forget they ripped off Shugo Chara. 😂
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
XD
@chockymlk60162 жыл бұрын
How about Cardcaptor Sakura? Is it a ripoff of some other anime or the creators of the anime came up with the ideas?
@LavenderTheBookOsbessedNerd2 жыл бұрын
Starlight shimmer appeared at 1:55
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Nice catch! Here's a Starlight cookie! 🍪✨
@LavenderTheBookOsbessedNerd2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell Thank you! (Sorry for the late reply.)
@juliaharvey75002 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know I wanted a channel that just talked about magical girl stories but if you did would you continue? I loved princess tutu and wanted Muto and Duck to be together personally 😆 could you do a video on that if it interests you in the future?
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
If I ever feel inspired to talk about Princess Tutu, then I will X3 I can't make any guarantees, though >__< I appreciate your support!
@juliaharvey75002 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell Of course! At your leisure!
@0OB08O2 жыл бұрын
Digimon Frontier and Miraculous Ladybug SPOILERS AHEAD: I once saw on internet an image of people talking about Miraculous' fandom shipping concepts, like adrianette, ladychat, ladrien, and marichat and how some people disagree "which one is best", showing a bunch of images of 2 characters from Digimon Frontier in multiple transformations combination and then I thought: "Oh! I remember that animated show. It was about a group of kids who are the new legendary warriors from long ago, they transform showing a kind of magical chibi spirit simplification of the persona they transform into in the transformation scene that has the transformation quote. The protagonists also go along with 2 main fantasy creatures, one being more feminine and responsible and the other more masculine and lazy. The villains got corrupted by negative emotions, but in the end, the protagonists purify their spirits and always saying the same quote. Sometimes during the transformation they would combine different spirits to transform into something new. And there was also this black feline transforming boy who was not that living human as he thought."
@eleonorepb4565 Жыл бұрын
It's true that there is many similarities but some of them are directly linked to others. For example the fact that in both series a french character has a father whose work is linked to food it's probably because France is often associated with it's gastronomy .
@maybeme-i-77752 жыл бұрын
Oof miraculous has dug itself into an even deeper hole lol. I dont think I ever finished season 2 when I was younger (aka when youtube barely had episodes and they were all split into 3-8 parts.) My goal is to rewatch season 1 this year!
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
have fun with the rewatch! ^_^
@gregorythestallion29842 жыл бұрын
Man. And I thought the first one was streching the point. Here it's just outright calling anything a copy. And yeah, magical girl shows don't do everything the same. But, shows overtime tend to look similar in many ways. Wow a french antagonist in my show placed on France?!! This must be a rip off. A french character is blond and these characters who is french in a show that happens in France is blond too? Copy, totally
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
You're perfectly free to disagree with me! I won't take offense~
@Thisisnottheanimeurlooking42 жыл бұрын
Wow They really do share a lot of the same tropes
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Yup yup!
@chloeisanicon.zoeisnot18342 жыл бұрын
whats strange is that the creator on twitter leaves likes on anime and manga its not suprising if he did he also speak about anime a lot also his worker the other writer winny he always leaves likes on anime posts and its not suprising that miraculous was going to be an anime show in the negnning..........
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Oh I'm extremely sure Astruc is into anime. The signs are all over the place especially since MLB was initially going to be an anime.
@chloeisanicon.zoeisnot18342 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell even his script and fanarts that he likes are all anime he also watches anime and watched the dragonball
@thatgirlmanda_yt10 ай бұрын
i really think you should watch miraculous! i just finished shugo chara cuz of your vidoes :) also, can you tell me which manga volume to buy if i want to read the end and then i guess i can re-watch the end of the anime?
@TheArtisticAloubell9 ай бұрын
I'm not tremendously interested in watching Miraculous XD But I'm glad you enjoyed Shugo Chara! ^0^ I myself have never read the manga, which is why I had to do some research on what was considered canon or not, but the series only has 12 volumes (including 4 extra chapters at the end called Shugo Chara Encore), so I'd say read the manga as well to get extra info that didn't make it into the anime itself.
@chloeah1018 ай бұрын
This makes so much more sense what the hell!?!
@Paego_2 жыл бұрын
the rabbit hole is deeper than we thought!!!
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@thunderbro72182 жыл бұрын
That’s it I’m SOLD we’re and how can I watch this show
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Other than supporting the official release and buying the DVDs, you could probably watch it online with a Google search ^_^
@thunderbro72182 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell Cool thanks
@saravelasco5807 Жыл бұрын
All this makes me want to go back and watch as Shugo Chara. At least I know I can watch the whole series of that rather than suffer through another one of Miraculous’s cringey and obvious plots. I also somehow forgot about the second season villainess?? Maybe because she was only in the show and not the books, but at least I have something to look forward to if I do rewatch the entire series!! 😁
@47ratsinahoodie2 жыл бұрын
I've gotten watch Shugo Chara now, it's just too similar.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
It's such a cute show and has many relatable topics 🥰🌟
@TheNigerianprincess82 жыл бұрын
Plus the writing will make more sense...... MLB has left a terrible taste in my mouth with its potential but with crappy direction (my opinion).
@CB73682 жыл бұрын
Love the video Even though I never seen the other show. Don't have much more to say here so I'll be looking forward to more videos, I'll be going back to playing yugioh master duel I've been having fun with this new yugioh game I highly recommend it to anyone. Have a great day and stay safe. 😁
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching my videos even when you haven't seen the shows I talk about. I appreciate it a lot! 🥰✨ Have fun with your game!
@Snowmon892 жыл бұрын
Um.... Pretty Cure? (AKA PreCure //Slash// *shutters* "Glitter Force" *shuttes harder*) Good luck with that. (Yes, simi joke comment, but while many of the similarities exist, most of them are pure coincidences or real stretches and are clearly mixed together in an assortment of ways so they're not really 1:1 comparisions/riipoffs.) Also many of your comparisons aren't so much "tropes" as they are design elements. Sort of like how both Kimba and Lion King have a "boar character who is an outcast" even though the two characters are COMPLETELY different from each other, but people still try to use it as an example of how Lion King rips off Kimba. (t's still fun to look at all these though.
@youyouu82 жыл бұрын
I'm extremely shocked, this is new to me
@joshuagraves37224 ай бұрын
I always thought miraculous it was Disney version of powerrangers
@cinnamontoastcrunch57612 жыл бұрын
Dang, I never realized how much of a rip-off MLB is. Also, off topic question, but in a lying match, who do u think would win: Kokichi or Lila?
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
I honestly haven't had enough exposure to Lila to make a call on that. Ive only seen Lila in clips whereas I saw all of DRV3, so I had hours of Kokichi lol. Though if I had to guess, I think Kokichi would win cuz he better knows how to steer a conversational situation where he wants it to go.
@justtired20502 жыл бұрын
These arguments are more convincing. Miraculous is probably inspired, not plagiarized (which you clarified), at least a little from shugo chara. I’ll have to check it out sometime
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
😁
@totustuus97822 жыл бұрын
Gurl I love your content❤️❤️🙏
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@dragonblade41252 жыл бұрын
And then there’s the mischievous angsty black color color scheme cat boy in both stories with a destructive power involving their claws (with Ikuto from Shugo Chara destroying X-Eggs similarly to how Cat Noir destroys the akuma’s special objects).
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAND now I see that you did see part 2 lol Oops. I should have continued reading the rest of the comments lol
@fbxbonilla89272 жыл бұрын
I havent even watched Shugo Chara but it is litterally obvious it has been inspiration... and i think i will watche Shugo Chara
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Cool! I hope you enjoy Shugo Chara 😊🌟
@stormyyoung85022 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but also I think it smiller to glitter force to
@kardelenkoc97462 жыл бұрын
i didnt watch shugo chira and i dont intend to defend miraculous or astrucs ideas in any way. buutttt since there is limited amount of trope there could be two shows at some point. BUT these similarities are too spesific to be what i was expecting to be similar
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
yeah, the problem isn't that they share common tropes, the problem is that the shared tropes are TOO specific and theres TOO many of them
@rawdasalmataman79082 жыл бұрын
Okay . Miraculous ladybug is a show that just writes its episodes with no purpose. I won't say I disagree completely but I don't agree. I mean shugo chara is a well written series I didn't watch it but I am just assuming. If Miraculous was intead inspired by shugo chara then it will be better written.
@nuraolblast17212 жыл бұрын
What in the actual-?!? WOW!!
@c.lineofficial2 жыл бұрын
it's amazing how you know so much about miraculous when you don't watch it like you say 😅❤
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Those spoilers on Instagram sure are something! lol I also look at the wiki too if the situation calls for it haha
@ok-bs1dx2 жыл бұрын
I discover your channel a month ago, and your content is amazing
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@ok-bs1dx2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell your welcome!
@elafila6883 Жыл бұрын
it's too similar at this point😭💀
@TheArtisticAloubell Жыл бұрын
YUP!
@Paperpencilpaper11 ай бұрын
Didn’t Luka and ikuto’s dad disappear but then show up later
@TheArtisticAloubell11 ай бұрын
I believe Ikuto went searching for his dad. I don't remember if he found him or not.
@Paperpencilpaper11 ай бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell he did in the last manga at the very end during the wedding
@Paperpencilpaper11 ай бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell well he didn’t find him he just showed up putting an arm around his mothers shoulder
@Paperpencilpaper11 ай бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell also isn’t their fathers both famous musicians
@neerajoshi54732 жыл бұрын
Shugo chara is a better version of miraculous
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Yumeira2 жыл бұрын
I just still don't know about that. I don't mean to be rude or anything it's just these reasons still seem too vague or coincidental. Such as number two, the two main bad guys are French. Well for one I feel like this point almost immediately looses credibility due to the fact that Miraculous Ladybug takes place in Paris so it comes as no surprise that he is French. About the statement where you pointed out that the main villains have similar eye color and hair color, well again it's not surprising that they have blonde hair as there is roughly 20% of Europe's population is blonde. Next up the third reason the villain, Lulu has an actress mother and a Baker father well I don't think this was ripped off of shugo chara because for one having a actress mother does happen quite a bit in shoujo and honestly it seems just so out of the blue that someone would look at shugo chara and out of all the parents they decide to rip off the couple with hardly any lines (and to be quite honest I forgot about Lulu's parents) and decide to make them into the main characters' parents. Then we have reason number 8, that sometimes the reason the victims transform is stupid. This is a really easy answer..... it's a kid show. Number 9, the bad guy does this stuff for a loved on who happens to be a female. Okay so let's start with this the bad guy always has to have a goal whether it be money, power, revenge, or to protect. It happens a lot in anime that the villain who just wants to protect a love one ends up using powers for evil and saying the end justifies the means. Like you said and I quote "There are cliches and tropes that are stapled to magical girl and shoujo anime." Though you did make a decent rebuttal there is the large possibility that it was a coincidence that they had similar tropes. For instance one time I was thinking about a book idea and I shared it with my sister and she had told me it was eerily similar to this one manga she read and I had never read it yet I somehow thought of something so similar. So that could have happened between Shugo Chara and Miraculous Ladybug. Anyway that's all I will type out for now because it's 2 am and I need to sleep so I will add more later. Also don't get me wrong I'm not hating on you or anything I just happen to not agree with the reasons.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have a problem if it were just a few tropes they shared, it's the vast number of tropes (37+) and the way they are presented that makes it suspicious. Everything you mentioned, in isolation, isn't that bad. But, as I said in the video, magical girl shows have things in common, but have unique combinations of tropes or, at the very least, the tropes are presented in unique ways. In the case of MLB and Shugo Chara, not only do they share a lot of tropes, but the tropes look the same across the two. And by "presented the same," I'll provide an example. Amu has primary love interest who is a nice blonde boy who is considered the prettiest boy in school. Her secondary love interest is a dark haired boy who plays a stringed instrument. If MLB wanted to take that trope and make it its own, it could have given Adrien a different hair color, or gave Luka a different talent other than music (and a lighter hair color). But no, it's a very similar nice, prince like, blonde boy and a dark haired stringed instrument player. That's only one example of many. I hope that makes sense? In any case, I appreciate you watching the video and commenting! 😁✨
@Yumeira2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell I see what you are saying but I still stand by my resolution that Miraculous Ladybug did not rip off Shugo chara. Let's begin with your example of the primary Male lead. For one that is a typical and I mean very typical for the main character to have a crush on the nice blond boy so one could say Tatsumi Usui, the male lead of Kaichou wa maid sama who is a kind blond guy or Zen Wistaria from Snow white with red hair. On the topic of primary Male leads there is a big problem with your reasons there. Let's start with primary, now I am going to assume you went the meaning of "most important" but Tadase is not in fact the primary love interest. Though some of this statement I just said can be perceived as bias but in the anime and mostly the manga it is heavily evident that Ikuto is in fact the "primary Male lead" About and I quote "Her secondary love interest is dark haired boy who plays a stringed instrument." And like I pointed out before with the primary Male lead. Ikuto is not the secondary male lead. Once again your reasons are just way too vague. The similarities between Luka and Ikuto about the stringed instrument is just way too different they may be stringed instruments but so is a piano and by that logic couldn't you say Kousei Arima is like Ikuto and Luka? Your point that there was just so many tropes that make it suspicious doesn't seem like a very strong proof. Take Sailor moon and Mermaid Melody for example. 1. Both main characters have similar happy go lucky personalities and the hair is blonde and put up in long twin tails 2.Both are notably bad at math. 3.Both their goals result in or revolve around finding a princess or princesses. 4.Both male leads have alter egos. 5.Both the main character's fight against the forces of evil. 6.Both Lucia and Usagi have a goddess-like form. 7.They both have talking pets. 8. Both main characters have a close relationship with supposed "deity" 9.Both love interests go through a period of time where they don't remember the main character. 10.They temporarily date a different girl before realizing the main character had a past with them. 11. One of Main character's best friend falls for a dark haired guy but ends up getting rejected because he is in love with another girl. Etc... These are just off the top of my head and as you can see based on the reasons you gave you can pretty much relate any anime to another. Yes they have some similarities (but very few) not enough to be related to each other and definitely not enough to be a rip off. Also I will say this again I do not want be misunderstood as a hater I just want to get my point across that I do not believe this statement to be true.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
@@Yumeira My apologies, when I said "primary love interest" I meant to say INITIAL love interest. I know that Amuto is endgame haha So I'm not doubting that Miraculous does its own thing with the information that inspired some of its decisions. I already acknowledged that MLB is NOT a ripoff of SC. It just seems to me out of all anime that MLB was primarily influenced by, it seems to be Shugo Chara. The two shows have their own identities, clearly, I just couldn't help but see out of every other possible inspiration, Shugo Chara seems to be the biggest (behind Spiderman and Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne). So, in summary, I know MLB is not a rip-off, I just want SC to be acknowledged as a source of heavy inspiration is all. And no worries! I never felt any malice in your reply. It's perfectly fine if you disagree with me =)
@Yumeira2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell I do understand your intentions and this topic could be debated all we want but we still cannot be sure that they were truly inspired off of Shugo Chara. I know this may sound repetitive but it could all be just a coincidence. Anyway, I do admire how you are so willing to hear the other side of the argument and the effort you put in these two videos. :)
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
@@Yumeira I guess that's true! We may never get an official confirmation. Oh well! The videos are fun to make anyway lol! Thanks for being so civil in this conversation! 😁✨
@takendruid2 жыл бұрын
I’m only a minute into the video. I have never watched or even heard of shugo chara up until now. I have watched MLB and I have watched other magical girl animes. Miraculous isn’t similar to the ones I watched :/
@babyfaceweeb89372 жыл бұрын
You know that meme let me copy your homework? This
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
XD
@Hwaaha2 жыл бұрын
definitely similar
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Yup! X3
@yaaaaasfire9621 Жыл бұрын
Agh I loved full moon wa shagshite
@TheArtisticAloubell Жыл бұрын
It was a really good show! And FANTASTIC songs
@LavenderTheBookOsbessedNerd2 жыл бұрын
These points are pretty convincing.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
😁
@chloeisanicon.zoeisnot18342 жыл бұрын
this is off topic bUT why does marinette have blue eyes. isnt she half asian her moms eyes are blackk it just dosent make sense , it shows that thomas thinks beauty standards are pale skin and blue eyes 🙄
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Great question about the blue eyes! I can only assume that blue eyes are SOMEWHERE on her dad's side--maybe generations back that we've never been exposed to. I would have also preferred for her to look more Asian, but I recognize that mixed people exist and can favor one side of the family over the other. I think if the show showed us a distant relative with blue eyes, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but I don't think they have...?
@chloeisanicon.zoeisnot18342 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell don’t u think they try to spotlight her the most and it kinda comes off as racist for example she gets the full Quality and everything around her looks fake and they make alya look ugly , like bad animation but she gets the lipgloss and ext 😍??? Racism and not every blonde girl is a meanie ..
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
@@chloeisanicon.zoeisnot1834 I see what you mean. I think Alya looks fine, though! I certainly like her Ladybug outfit more than Marinette's xp
@chloeisanicon.zoeisnot18342 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell qpeirhek they better give the Quality animation that they give to marinette to the others too 😭 these ppl are making billions of dollars they’re so cheap
@thesleepyreader7 ай бұрын
6:54 How is it exactly the same!!!
@amymoon12952 жыл бұрын
Speaking of magical girls I’m currently making my own magical girl series hope you wish me luck!🥰
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
Best wishes with your magical girl series! I hope it does well! 👍😁✨
@amymoon12952 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell Thank you so much appreciated!
@Userwithaname9642 жыл бұрын
Seeing the two mom's, they look way too similar..
@sergiomendoza51652 жыл бұрын
My favorite magical girl anime is Lyrical Nanoha and is a shonen anime.
@TheArtisticAloubell2 жыл бұрын
I've heard of that one before. Maybe I'll watch it one day! ^0^
@sergiomendoza51652 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtisticAloubell i reccomend the 1st season to 3rd season and the movies.