Someone posted a huge document detailing awful behavior from front man Joe Hawley, then shortly deleted it right after?

I love how his criticisms of the songs are the exact reasons why i love the songs

>Watchs musical >“Why is it a musical”

Murders probably became the most popular in the album because the “all for nothing at all” part was a tik tok sound for a bit and probably got people to listen to the full thing

If you want to die tonight, take a drink every time Brad says "over-the-top pretentious."

His hands are under the table when he asks his girlfriend’s opinion, he has a gun under the table thus she has to agree with him.

Bro, it’s MEANT to be like a musical😭 the lyrics are MEANT to be odd as it’s telling a story

nobody tell him about the 9/11 song

I've met suicidal people less cynical

i like this album. brad hates this album. we both agree that there probably shouldnt be a rap song on it.

brad this is my favorite album. i was contemplating paying you on stream to listen to pieces of it. i have not watched the video and if you tear it to shreds my life will be over

Story: A couple falls in love The girl gets killed The boy gets framed and pleads for insanity Goes throught electroshock treatment Goes actually insane Thinks can time travel when he only goes throught his memories Goes to the ocean Drowns Last 7 minutes while he is drowning is the whole dream sweet in sea major song There

Man discovered the word "pretentious" and made it a mission to use it as often as possible.

Ain't sure if you've seen it or not but the term "theatre-core" is officialy credited to you according to urban dictionary

Absolutely throwing a tantrum because The Mind Electric is my favourite song ever

The amount of times Brad calls his girlfriend in distress is hilarious.

As someone who genuinely enjoys this album, watching Brad destroy it is so fun. All of his criticism makes total sense, but I still really enjoy it with those criticisms in mind. It really goes to show how much music taste can differ how one feels about a sound. 10/10 would do again

I just realized, dream Sweet in sea major, is 7 minutes because its the last 7 minutes burst of energy from the brain when you die.

I honestly think the over the top lyrics are what make this album such a bop to enjoy. Sure it's like listening to your English teacher read a passage from some old Shakespeare novel, but somehow it just sounds so fun to listen to. Also Joe Hawley just likes to be as #deep and dramatic as he can be, so it's kinda to be expected when listening to this that you'll get these stupid lines

I just realized the thumbnail says 10/10 😭 that’s cruel

I personally love this album and i cannot wait to see brad absolutely rip it shreds in front of my eyes

I'd say the whole concept of Hawaii: Part II and Miracle Musical altogether would make more sense if you ever get the chance to read about Tally Hall, the group Joe Hawley was in before this. Tally Hall isn't as theater-core focused as M.M., and their albums have generally gotten more praise & respect from people, especially their debut, "Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum". If you ever get the chance to, listen to that album, and read into the fandom, and you'll see why Hawaii: Part II has the reputation it has now.

“This feels like the longest thing ever” that’s because he paused it for like 10 minutes

Theatre-core is so concise and perfect and wraps up so many obnoxious tropes that I've been struggling to pin down for years. You nailed it. While this album has some definite skips, when it works for me, it floors me. Introduction, White Ball, Stranded Lullaby, and Dream Sweet are pretty great in my opinion. Dream Sweet in particular is one of my all-time favorites. I can buy into the silly over-the-top aesthetic that's being portrayed with the artwork and decadent instrumentation. But man, when this album sucks, it SUCKS.

I appreciate you saying that I can “rap, at least to a decent degree”. I’ll take it😂 This whole review is pretty great, ngl. SUBSCRIBED!

I understand your problems with this album, but I really like the songwriting. I really love dissecting the poetry of this album, I feel like I could spend time with this project for hours. It’s a completely personal thing, but I’ve never connected with lyrics like this before. usually with albums I’ll only catch a lyric if it’s outstanding or god awful, but not here. I found myself invested in the songwriting from beginning to end. I understand your criticisms, but I disagree with them. I just think this album is fun the whole way through

You gotta admit the fact that, even 10 years after its release, this album has fans coming in droves asking modern music pretty much every music critic to check it out means it’s got a unique kind of appeal to a lot of people. I don’t listen to it a lot anymore but this was my #1 OAT for a looong period of time, coming from someone who listens to a ton of music.

rip me for enjoying a lot of the "theatrecore" music but not actually being a theatre kid; i really love this album especially (im also a big fan of rap music btw) edit: this comment definitely comes off almost as corny and pretentious as this album is but oh well

I just listened to the full album today, and I do understand a lot of Brad’s criticisms. But to say that “the only people who have heard this are theater-core basement dwellers who never go outside” is ridiculous. Attack the album itself, not the people who listened to it. That’s not gonna get people on your side.

"You can tell that this album is about love" boy is this man in for a shock

Lmao the mind electric is an audio masterpiece, I respect your right to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is😂😂😂😂

it is strangely enjoyable watching someone tear into one of my favorite albums

Honestly, Miracle Musical isn't for me either, I downright struggle listening to it. But I freaking love Tally Hall. MMMM Is an absolute masterpiece in my eyes. It would literally make my day if you ever check out an album by them.

NO YOU DID NOT DISS THE MIND ELECTRIC. THAT IS LIT 🔥🔥

9:56 here, brad made the same face as the creature in the background

i heard the first two songs get called pretentious and i knew the mind electric was gonna get torn to shreds

God I fucking love this album

Genuinely love seeing Brad tear into one of my favorite albums LMAO. It's so funny seeing him rip apart the songs, also helps me see them from a different perspective. I agree some of them are ass, but damn when it's good it's good. Dream Sweet in particular is just soooo choice

He really has a brad taste in music

this is really funny because my boyfriend is incredibly critical and picky with music so i never show him any music i listen to but i showed him this and he fell in love with it and was absolutely fascinated by it

This is one of my favorite albums of all time! Great my day is ruined!

as much as i adore this album, i can mostly understand your opinions here. but oh my god 9:37, you did NOT just insult zubin sedghi’s voice like that. i fucking love zubin you can’t do that also if i took a shot every time you described something as “pretentious and over the top” or “convoluted” in this video i think i would be fucking dead

i think it’s important to understand the story behind this album. it’s about a guy named simon, who’s had an awful life. he falls in love with a lady, and they go for a walk in the woods where she is murdered. he is framed for it, so he pleads insanity and gets electroshock therapy. but because he’s not insane, the electricity makes him insane. he escapes and tries to find his love who he thinks is still alive. he gets lured into the ocean by sirens, and drowns where he is reunited with his love. also i think it’s really funny that the songs you like are the ones i don’t like as much lmao

Your reaction to Labyrinth is so fucking funny its one of my favorites on the album god bless Brad

Ah, the album for English majors. I love it but i would be lying if i said it didnt feel like i was back in school doing poetry analysis on the lyrics.

Haha, this is probably one of my favorite albums of all time. Can defintely see how you see it as pretentious though.

i love the fact that you have ripped apart every band that i enjoy. you should listen to never mind the living dead or pursuit both by stuck in the sound (the albums not just the songs). or ya know just keep posting the great content :)

I think that you should try Will Wood if you hate the way that this album's lyrics are melodramatic but it never feels "large". I'd recommend The Normal Album from his solo stuff. His vocals and lyrics are still highly melodramatic, but it fits with the zany and animated instrumentals that actually feel alive. It's the best that the whole "theatre-core" side of music can offer, imo.

I like this album. I like a good number of rap albums/ songs. Labyrinth is not bad because it's a rap song, it just doesn't fit at all with the rest of the album

“This vocal effect is THE WORST” do NOT let this man find daft punk if he doesn’t like audio filters 😭😭

im eating one peice of whole grain bread rn

I love how every Tally Hall fan is a Brad viewer just because he made 3 Tally Hall videos 😭

Its an album about the ocean, of course its deep

This album is a guilty pleasure of mine, and i am very exited to see you rip it apart!

honestly, as someone who loves this album, a lot of why people like it isn’t because of the songs. it’s because of the “story,” trying to peace together Simon’s life, as it’s told in the songs. sure, it’s pretentious, but imo it gives the album a bit of charm. it’s like FNAF in a way lmfao, way too much lore that people *love* over analyzing

I'm in love with this album I don't know why I'm here watching this man rip it apart piece by piece.

The album by miracle MUSICAL sounds like a MUSICAL I would never have guessed

As a fan of this album I've always wanted to hear what people on the other side of the spectrum have to say. I see that the album isn't perfect and has a lot of quirks that could be a turn off for some, so your reaction to it gives me a lot of insight. Good video. Unsubbed

every reason you don't like the album is the reason I love it

I find it so funny he actually sat threw the whole reverse part of the mind electric lmao. Anyways, agree to disagree, love this album respect ur opinion people have different taste have a good day

if i drank every time this dude said this album was over the top or pretentious i would die of liver failure.

This is the first time I've seen so much negative reception surrounding this album. From my first time listening to this album, it was applauded with so much high praise from the internet. I was listening to it around the time when the popularity of the album was JUST making its way to "internet fame" as one of the songs in the album (Dream Sweet in Sea Major) was making a few rounds on people's KZfaq recommendation. One of the primary things I like about this album was the fact that it was fresh in my eyes. It's honestly THE album that made me start actually listening to music and albums in general. So you can guess that I didn't know too much about music back then, which is why I never picked up the "pretentious-ness" aspect of it. Another thing that I like about it is mostly the "mysterious vibe" the album was going for. No one suggested me to pick up this album besides KZfaq's algorithm, so it used to be like this "otherwordly" music that fooled me into thinking that no other music sounds like it. In fact, most of my positive opinion of this album is mostly from external factors that heightened the album, which is why I would rate this album a 9/10 based on my very good first experience. Now that I've grown more and more into music, I will give this album a 7/10 AT MOST. Who knew getting more experience with music actually hurts my enjoyment of this album? But I still appreciate for what it's worth and it did influenced me in a way that changed my life.

YOOOOOOOOOOO, Tally Hall gang where you at??? Edit: I definitely did not expect this sort of review, so to say I’m surprised would be an understatement. Jesus Christ, this was brutal.

This is probably my top 3 favorite albums of all time. Dream Sweet was my most listened to song in 2021. I love tally hall, not that big a fan of Joe Hawley’s solo work, but as someone who’s favorite genre is midwest emo, I literally can’t get tired of this album

My favourite lyric from this MASTERPIECE: You're sittin in the Wawa bathroom // Rubbing Palmolive on your balls

I love watching this L take. I love every piece of this album, and watching this makes my brain rot. Even with the brain rot, it’s still fun to laugh at it.

i genuinely like this album & its so funny to see him point out really goofy things, i love brads reactions lmfao

I feel like if he heard joe hawley joe hawley his mind would implode and explode at the same time

I cannot trust your criticisms anymore. You called The Mind Electric horrific... I simply cannot forgive this behavior.

I think you got what makes the album enjoyable and somehow took it as a negative, and that's because you went in already knowing you were gonna dislike it. Most of the time your criticisms were a little misguided because you didn't quite get what the music was going for, and other times your criticism seem completely arbitrary knowing the kind of music you like. I know the "It's meant to sound bad" defense seems pretentious, but watching this video I caught a lot of misunderstandings as to what is intentional in this album and what is simply "badly done," that I've never seen anyone misunderstand before, and it's always funny seeing you criticize a part of a song as if it's an objective flaw whilst knowing that part is the reason why other people like it. (E.g: The distorted piano in Murders, the over-the-top lyrics that are also impossible to understand, the "theater kid" vibes, the vocal effects, etc.) Maybe you were a little out of the loop regarding the context of the album. It's not like you need too much context but I think you were introduced to this stuff in a less than ideal manner and it's ruined the lenses in which you judge the music making you seem very biased. Like, at first you say the music is "predictable," and when it surprises you, you change your tune from "it's predictable" to "the surprises are cheapshots that come out of nowhere" to acknowledge the contradiction while still trying to say they can't surprise you, and when you're shown the surprises can be coherent with Labyrinth, you go from "I can't get surprised by this," to "This album never fails to surprise me!" while laughing at the idea of a rap song going after The Mind Electric, as if the ridiculousness was unintentional and further proof of how dumb the artist is. That's just one of the many "Missing the point" moments that I saw in this video stemming from your inability to look at the album openly and taking the weirdness of it at face value instead of going: "Huh, this is pretty unconventional. I wonder why they did this!" like you often have to do with "experimental" stuff. Again, I know this sounds pretentious and I agree the album itself can be pretentious too sometimes, but yeah, you just don't get it dude.....

This album is what musical theatre sounds like to people who hate musical theatre. And this is coming from an Arctic Monkeys fan (who think AM is mid as fuck)

i feel like the vocals on this album were meant to make us imagine the vocalist as some suave classy dude in fancy dress clothes and a top hat swinging his cane around and dancing elegantly around a theater stage but instead i feel like im listening to a no-class white boy dressing as the onceler for halloween, and honestly i feel like if the latter persona was actively embraced this album could have been a hell of a lot more charming at the very least

"cant wait for brad to think of my favorite album"

This is a 1 year old video and I am aware that it may not be accurate to his current opinion. I do not believe it has grown on Brad, but I believe some of the points he made here wouldn’t be made nowadays. Regardless, I still think this is a very bad video. I enjoy the album quite a lot, but I actually found out about it through this video. At the time I watched it, I agreed with most of it, and I quickly discarded this album as being horrible and pretentious. Since then, I have listened to it on my own and it has since become my favorite album and I enjoy almost every song in it. This is a very special album to me and it’s an unique experience that I’ve never heard before. The point of this is not to criticize Brad’s opinion on this album, since I don’t believe people should be criticized for being unable to enjoy something that simply does not appeal to them, but rather I am here to criticize many of the points he made in this album, which I think are very bad. I think he over exaggerated many of his points and got overly upset about many elements that simply didn’t make much sense to me, in an attempt to generate some kind of outrage and upset the album’s fan-base. Giving it such a low rating came off as in bad spirit to me, as if he was actively trying to dislike it. I understand that this video was intentionally made to upset Tally Hall fans. I will be pointing out the arguments that I find strange and/or poorly explained. Introduction to the Snow - A common argument made by Brad is that the lyrics and themes are very pretentious and over the top, which I think is a very bad spirited criticism. This album’s main themes are mortality and the supernatural, it’s inherently whimsical and over the top. It’s meant to be capturing the aesthetic of a theater play and old animated movie, but Brad’s mistake is taking it way more seriously than even the album takes itself. The dramatic singing and lyricism in this track adds to the emotion of it, I believe. If the lyrics and singing were less dramatic, it wouldn’t convey the emotion in the same way that it does. This is the main issue in your approach, you are taking it too seriously and being way too cynical about it. Art is an inherently emotional thing, and picking apart at how over the top and goofy takes the joy out of it. It’s also not very specific, because what about it is over the top? Is it the word-play, metaphors or what? It’s a very shallow criticism to tear it down for being over the top, since that’s the musical equivalent of criticizing a movie for being too “cliche”, similar to Cinema Sins’ criticism. Tearing something apart because it’s too dramatic makes you come off as very cynical and close minded. Your overuse of the word “pretentious” is also somewhat frustrating, because it’s an entirely non-constructive point. It doesn’t say what exactly about the album is bad, it’s just a buzz-word. If you believe it is pretentious and dramatic, then go into detail about what makes you feel this way, rather than just repeating catch-phrases every few minutes. I know this is said a lot, but you can’t simply claim something is meaningless and pretentious just because you don’t understand it. It makes it seem as if you’re trying to seem ignorant, which I know you aren’t, but it’s very hard to watch you actively try to seem ignorant to the music just because you want to irritate a group of people. Also regarding the singing in specific, I don’t see the problem with it. If the singer doesn’t feel the song, then the listener cannot, but you’re clearly hearing the emotion in the singer’s voice, then how is it such a bad thing? Do you expect the singer to sing as monotonous and uninterested as possible, just because it wouldn’t be “pretentious” this way? This is what I mean by cynical. Isle Unto Thyself - This is also one of my main criticisms, you pause the songs way too often. I understand that you’re supposed to be a commentator and entertain the audience, but if you want to actually criticize music then you have to listen to it uninterrupted. Pausing the song every few seconds to comment on how bad it is just makes you never fully invest into the song and never let the atmosphere set in. This is like if you were watching a horror movie but pausing every second to complain about how bad it is and point out the “plot holes”. I also believe you are misinterpreting the lyrics. The singer isn’t telling you to feel something, but rather it’s referring to the main character of the album. Isle Unto Thyself is, as it’s most widely accepted, an abstract love song that foreshadows the events of the album, while tackling briefly the main themes of it, which are mortality and the after-life. It’s not speaking directly to the listener, it’s meant to be a story told through the perspective of the characters. And yet again, you claiming that the singers are just saying “I don’t want to make you feel the song, so I’ll just tell you to fell it” is a very cynical and mean spirited argument. I don’t understand why it is such a common argument of yours to say the album is bad and “cringe” because the singer puts way too much emotion in their singing. I’d rather a singer that’s over the top and passionate about what they are singing than one that sounds uninterested. Another thing that also bothers me is your constant criticism of the vocal effects in the music. I personally think that they sound okay, and they fit the song a lot of the time, but it doesn’t necessarily bother me that you don’t like them. What bothers me is that you have praised, in your channel, projects that utilize Vocaloid, yet the vocals were never a criticism of yours in those circumstances. This makes it feel like you’re just intentionally trying to complain about every possible thing in this album for no reason other than to hate it. It doesn’t seem fair to hate a project’s use of vocal effects while simultaneously praising projects whose vocals have a very similar sound to them. It would seem more genuine to be more consistent with your criticism. Claiming that the song is trying way too hard to be deep and meaningful is an overused point that makes the one making it come off as someone who just doesn’t bother trying to understand lyrics.

Never really heard of these guys yet somehow I had Black Rainbows on my liked songs list of Spotify for a long time so it was a total mindfuck to see it show up suddenly in this video.

no way this guy said "directly from shakespear's anus"😭😭😭

I know you don't like this Brad, but I actually really like Tally Hall's MMMM and I think you might like it a lot better. It's such a fun and exciting album so I can't help but liking it tbh.

I got into tally hall first, then liked parts of this one as well, but not all. I kind of just like their songs sound more than read too deep into it all (some parts i can appreciate deeply of course, and it's been 2 years since i deeply enjoyed them, i've matured in taste since then but can still enjoy them). Please give Tally hall's work a chance whenever you get the bitter taste out of you mouth, Still respect your opinion anyways

I like it and I like to see what's wrong with it. One thing with this review though, You kept mentioning how overly religious it is, but as a Christian I picked up like zero Christian undertones whatsoever listening to any of this album because the lyrics are so overly convoluted that I tuned out trying to make sense of them lol

Even though you broke my heart by hating my favorite album, I fucking loved this video. You made me laugh so many times and you always explain why you don’t like a song or a part of a song.

This album is amazing and pure craftsmanship!

25:54 brad casually getting put to sleep by the lullaby lol

Murders walked so Tell The Vision could run

The "you could torture people with this song" bit reminded me of when Skinny Puppy tried suing Guantamano Bay for using their music to torture people

great review brad, glad you enjoyed black rainbows it's so groovy indeed Unsubscribed.

Just wait till he listens to Joe Hawley Joe Halwey dude 😭😭

Someone get wendigoon on that iceberg 🤣

Someone finally reacts to the song i like: *It's brad taste in music:*

Pretty funny that he started yawning when the lullaby started

i have a love hate relationship with this video

This album is great for someone who spent way too long trying to understand the fnaf lore

26:36 i would just love to see him discover that miracle musical did a… charming cover of a disney song

I need to wonder, do you like ballads? Like in general. Because I feel like Stranded Lullaby is still a really great song without the context of the album, but it seems like you just hate it because of the artist and you dumped on everything else. And you say its a bore and a yawn, but ballads are just... slow. Ya know? I feel like its unfair to just say its shit if you dislike slow ballads in general.

your taste in music really is brad! maybe its even berrible!

i got super into theatrecore during lockdown. it was a real im 14 and this is deep moment. i needed some human interaction for real. it was bad.

See, I enjoy Tally Hall and this album. I was recommended Dream Sweet on Spotify two years back and a month later of so after listening to it a ton, i was like "damn what are these lyrics?" and then down the rabbit hole i went. It's definetly not for everyone and not all of Hawaii Pt 2 is fabulous (first 5 minutes of mind electric makes me dizzy), but I can clearly imagine this album as a movie or a production. I mean, it'd very much an interesting one but personally this whole album is like a journey, each song segueing into each other and listening to it back to back really takes you on a ride (no pun intended). It's the sort of music you listen to at night, and overthinks the fuck out of everything. The lyrics that Joe writes are some of the most vivid yet interesting I've come across. I kinda like his wacky instruments, keen details and weird editing. Very little "lol i love my girlfriend" or "i miss my girlfriend" which is always overwritten about.

The mind electric is two different versions when reversed

I like how most of the people in this comments section love this album

“This is an inside-the-box thinking album” Literally the farthest from the truth.

You went in looking for pretentiousness and found it as a result. I kickstarted this album for the vinyl way back in 2018 and never felt like it was anything other than a band expressing themselves in good faith and having fun as most bands do, with songs that are hit and miss. Your criticism of sounds that you don't like is not something I can assail, but what I find perplexing is how much of your criticism seemingly centers around the aura that the internet has created around the album, as well as lyrics that you have unfairly decided cannot have a legitimate interpretation. I don't think that's a fair way to approach criticizing an album. To me, the only thing that has ever been pretentious about Hawaii Part II is the internet's reaction to it.