In regard to having his own house in order. You do see pastors whose own families are not cared for and lacking in good relationships with their spouses and children who think that they can pastor a church. If you can't be faithful with a little, you can't be faithful with much.

Pastors disqualifying themselves from ministry will continue to happen because it has been written that in the last days there will be a falling away. Sad, but true. Some of these are not as subjective as they seem. I think Paul was pretty clear about what type of a man's character qualifies him for ministry.

I understand no one's perfect and even the most faithful can stumble but once a pastor does something out of line, don't care if it's just once, my trust and respect ain't gonna be the same anymore. 😕

I could NEVER trust a pastor that had an affair. Period.

Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we shall incur a stricter judgment. James 3:1

One issue I have seen is a pastor is removed. They don't seek repentance. They move on and start a new fellowship.

Great analysis.

I’ve really really struggled with a pastor that I really trusted and thought I got to know quite personally, him and his wife and kids, and even helped them when they moved to my country as missionaries… only to find a year after that he was caught in adultery and had absolutely no repentance. In fact, he then left his wife and kids and went to be with this other woman. And then started to post pics of him celebrating occasions such as Halloween with his new family etc…. It was a 180 it seemed and just so hard to watch and see and so terribly confusing. He was removed from ministry as soon as the adultery was found out …. But it’s just so heavy on my heart. I can’t even try to understand what on earth happened…..!

If the situation is still QUESTIONABLE after many years of pastoral restoration……it’s best for the minister to step down.

Reading alot of the comments here and just in my own life experience, I think the mistake we keep making is that we put our faith in man, who will always let us down. We need to put our faith in the ONE who has overcome the world, we need to put our Faith in Jesus. Love you all.

I totally agree!! I left my church because I couldn’t look at nor listen to the word coming from my previous Pastor.

I am listening to you and how you are dividing the Word of Jesus Christ as mentioned in the Book of James and your lessons from Study The Bible series for doing exactly what you are doing now sir. Righteously defining the meaning of key words from Greek is a life lesson. I am trying to do this on my young KZfaq channel but no where is well as you, sir. I thank you for all that you are doing for the Kingdom of Jesus Christ. Be blessed and I will pay $20.00 dollars using the dollar symbol because I know that you have a family and staff to support, pastor Parr. Be blessed always by Him Who can do immeasurably more than anyone else can do…to Him be the praise and glory always in Jesus Christ. Amen.

Great video.! I was always curious if I was disqualified as a minister due to my past. This was so encouraging..thanks Allen!

Family is your first ministry. If you cannot raise God fearing and God loving children who had been with you since they were babies, how can you lead any other ministry?

This was helpful in thinking through these types of situations… Thank you!

You know Allen if its a bad character issue I think ministry is not the place for that individual. We all sin it doesn't make it right but as long as we're attached to this flesh we have problems. For me I choose to show mercy and pray for the person because eventually I'll need mercy also.

Luckily I did not choose to go into ministry. I'm definitely not qualified. I'm just grateful for God's forgiveness, but all I can do is to serve in a lesser capacity.

Have been through a few pastors like this. Said goodbye to their church. "Feed the sheep not beat them"!

Thanks for bringing some clarity to a very delicate and serious situations.

Thank you Mr. Parr

Managing household well--includes managing finances and things related to the home

I agree and I’m glad that you’re going over these and clearing up things because this is obviously something that’s really relevant. I will say, however, that in our day and age with social media and access to information, that we should not be too quick to draw conclusions because people can make accusations that are false. It doesn’t mean that people need to have this specific proof in order to prove that something did happen, but to think that people don’t bare false witness is also not entirely correct. So we should be cautious, make sure that we’re ensuring the safety of (alleged and confirmed) victims, but also make sure that we gather information before fully coming to a conclusion if the situation may call for it. This isn’t the case for everything, but those cautionary tales where people’s lives can be ruined because of things that end up not being true, are important because those are still peoples lives. However, often times there’s lots of evidence and if it’s a pattern, then that’s way different.

Thank you, Allen. As a long-time subscriber who has been hacked and canceled in a similar fashion that you have, I have your back 100 percent.

Great video

I know a pastor no one knew was abusive but he truly was saved. The couple ended up starting a marriage ministry and ministering to others. His reputation is solid and he gives his testimony to others.. I say if they get caught in a sin yet don't repent and get help then there is a problem. If it is a pattern that he can't break then stepping down may b best option. This Christian walk is hard and support to truly walk free and in His work limited to none

Great job, Allen! This is so necessary. Thanks for covering this!

Thank you for this! This was an answered prayer from God for me since my husband and I was having this discussion and we have different opinions but this definitely helped me to see how there is subjectivity to the list that is given in 1 Timothy.

Great Teaching Man Of God!!! 🕊️✌️✌️🕊️

Thank you for the information. It would be a nice follow up on how members of the church should deal with pastors who should be disqualified and yet refuse to step down from ministry. Blessed with your videos and content.

The recordings starting at 7:30 remind me of what it was like to serve in ministry during my time at Liberty University. Especially after being ordained at a church several miles north of campus, I was treated like this, and then blamed for everything. Calling them on it got me in big trouble, leading to a contract not getting renewed. Amen, Allen! Ministers need to quit acting like that!

Thanks, Pastor Parr for all that you do, sir. Blessings to you and your family always in Christ Jesus. Amen.

Involvement with an underage child, sexually should be a disqualifer even when there is true repentance.

Good questions to get answered Pastor Allen. Thx 🙏 and God bless you

Im so impressed with the redemption work the lord has done in Carl lentz life and his family. The pod cast he started is very supporte and healing and amazing testimony of the lord. He takes FULL responsibility

Todd Friel talked about this and I am inclined to agree with his assessment. If you are sinning as a pastor--while there is grace and forgiveness in Christianity--you should not be back behind the pulpit. There are many examples he brings out from Church History that agree that the one who errs should be removed from the pulpit. They need to get themselves into a good Bible preaching church under a Godly pastor and learn in submission.

9:22 Did he just say that if this has been a pattern, the leader needs to step away so that they can experience some sort of "humiliation" plan?

Great video, Allen! This is actually part of the reason why I stopped doing the "sermon" part of Cinema Sermons. I've shared with you some of my struggles in our personal conversations and there's some other things I'm actively working to overcome, but I just wanted to make sure that I don't give the gospel black eye in any way. I want to make sure that the same guy doing videos at the same guy that they'll see out doing karaoke on a saturday. So I'm just enjoying making videos about movies and trying to be the best coach I can, and when I feel the time is right and that the Lord approves of it I'll start doing the sermon part again. Well done as always, my friend!

This is gonna be a long question for Pastor Parr but I would like for his advice. What about an individual who was deep in a sin, never confessed it to a person, but confessed to God, asked for forgiveness and surrendered to Christ? Then they were delivered from it? Could someone who never was in ministry but had a sin they were delivered from in the past be in ministry? This was me. Early age I fell to the video sin (you know what I mean). It was horrid. I wasn’t in church anymore during this time. But after high school and then college, I had this urge to be in church more. Almost got stuck in a oneness church but I was led to another college in another town that was more biblically sound. I met my future wife the same day at the new college when the semester began. And a second time at the college church fellowship sponsored by the local church. Same week. God led me back to church and yet still had the sin (but this was a step in His purpose for me). I’d be mad at myself and beating myself up. But I prayed more and more because I wanted to be with Him. I was saved as a little kid but fell into all that mess. I felt as though I was condemned because I was not listening to the right voice. I asked God to forgive me and I fought so long. At some point I surrendered everything to Jesus and I never do those specified things again. Now, I am resisting the temptation to look at parts of a woman’s body, and I feel I still beat myself down when I do so by accident and unintentionally, but Jesus has helped me through this mess and I do my best to follow Him (letting Him work in my life). The Holy Spirit has helped sanctified me so much with more self-control and also reassuring me that God loves me and has a purpose for me. I feel detached from the world and I don’t like it. I long to see God and not do the sin others do. I want to do His will. I’ll never be perfect but I want to follow my Savior, my Shepherd. Temptation stings but Jesus Christ is worth my praise. To Him be all the glory amen. This is my confession to you all. And the reason I say this is because God has put into my head the idea of ministry and I have a tugging in my soul to do so. But I’ve been fighting back because of my past and my perceived ability to do something like it. I don’t think I’m worthy enough to do ministry and yet the tugging remains. There was something someone said regarding our abilities at the time and God’s purpose for us. “God doesn’t choose the prepared. God prepares the chosen.” This very quote has repeatedly worn away my fears over time. But I need advice to pursue what I feel God is leading me to. This same thing happened a year ago when out of the blue the idea of teaching was put in my head. Told my wife countless times I couldn’t fathom the idea of teaching (she’s a teacher). But that idea entered my head, I prayed about it with my wife who said it’d be a miracle if I got hired in a month since schools were about to open again. I got all my provisional licensure and prereqs done, and hired, in four weeks. Including masters program so I can teach and do classes for it. It was a miracle that I can only give God the complete credit. I know this feels similar to what I’m now experiencing but this is a bigger leap.

Thanks

Very good lesson. Greatly appreciated

Thanks Mr Allen

You shared appropriately. Thank you

@allenparr what I’m yet to understand is Robert Morris was one of Pastor Mark Driscoll personal accountability Pastors. Yet, He’s been totally silent on this RM child abuse issue. And since he is very vocal about other men. I find it curious he’s now silent.

Talk that talk

I think a lot of these qualifications are subjective because it's really up to each church community. I think if a group has set the rules for engagement then the leader violated them, the church is well within their rights to remove him from leadership. He's subject to whatever consequences they've already set up. I think a major issue is that most churches never set consequences in place for violations. God sets rules with consequences. So do parents and businesses. Churches should do the same. This way people know what they're signing up for when joining a church community and it's easier to hold each other accountable.

You broke it down as good as I've heard. This is not an easy topic. Thank you for your clarity

You are absolutely right on all points.

What happens with Repeat offenders such as, Jamal Bryant who is not held accountable by the church board or church members.

I really got a lot from this. The information distinguishing a 1 time incident verses an ongoing issue was insightful. Thanks!

Good balanced teaching. Thanks Allen.

Thank you for this video Allen! In a time where people are speaking in opinions, you are equipping the saints! Very helpful video, especially as the LORD seems to be separating the wheat from the chaff right before our eyes!

The husband of one wife could mean only married once and faithful. Also not divorced.

Well said, Allen.

Very fair and clear , thank you👏🙏

Great video, brother Allen!! God bless you and your ministry!

Great and timely word of insight, big bro. Thanks for all that you do to inform and build up the body.

Thanks 👍 you were very informative.

There is an example of, Charles Stanley... He was unfaithful and him and his wife decided to divorce. He stepped down from preaching. But, soon after the church "overwhelmingly voted" for him to continue being the Pastor. And he vowed to remain celibate and focus on feeding the flock! I think in that situation it ended up being the right choice.

Great video, but is 1 Cor 9 talking about disqualification of pastors? Didn’t Paul encourage the church to run in such a way to obtain the prize? What is the prize for a Christian? He then used himself as an example in light off “run in such a way to obtain”. In ch10 didn’t he use the Israelites as an example of not walking in obedience and perishing? I don’t think there are examples of ministers who were disqualified in the bible. They were either false teachers whom the church were encouraged to stay away from. Paul said to remove one person for sexual sins and to hand them over to Satan but after a while he told them to bring him back. If you were to stand before God would you confidently say you have not committed any sin that would “disqualify” you from ministry? Should John Macurthur be disqualified for the case the woman whose husband abused his children made against the church. I struggle with this because there’s no clear instruction on disqualification, restoration though I agree it’s good in principle.

the best kind of ministry is being a youtuber...no accountability..no elders no financial burdens..no committees 😂😂😂

I’m glad this is stuff with Rod Parsley is finally coming out

So half-truths would be considered a lie and not repentance?

I definitely agree that when someone stays in the pulpit while living a double/sinful lifestyle that is a big deal and they like should not be restored

I think my only question is what is of the congregation is regards to forgiveness? Yes trust is broken, that is understood. But does that have us to continue to hold a person’s past against them moving forward? No, they may not be restored to their position or title, but sometimes I feel like the Church even suppress the gifting too

I'm not a pastor but I believe these guideposts should be strickly listed and remembered for all who will themselves to be followers of Jesus Christ. What is required for ministry of pastors should seriously be adopted as requirements to lead a Christian life pleasing to our Lord Jesus Christ.

Hello Allen, I love your videos. I have a longtime friend who has been deceived by the TV show Shepherd’s Chapel. She kept watching it, after I told her that Arnold Murray is a false teacher and that the teaching in this show is blasphemous. Can you make a video about Shepherd’s Chapel, there is a lot of online information as to why the content of this show is devoid of Biblical truth? After four years of telling her to stay away from this TV show and praying for her, I finally told her that she needs to repent of the sin of worshipping a counterfeit gospel. She has studied this false teaching for over 10 years. Now this counterfeit gospel has become apart of who she is in Christ, it comes out of her mouth when she talks about the Bible. I contacted a pastor about Shepherd’s Chapel, he told me that this has been a major problem for many pastors to counter and correct in their congregations. I appreciate everything that you do for our Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you and God bless you. Sincerely, Teresa

Thanks Pastor Parr,!! You are a Godly you man, that seems to know the scriptures, as well as having common sense. I’m I. Agreement with you. My thought is o. Some of these issues are - if you are in moral sin before you ever get to the pulpit and still in sin as you are preaching, I ask the question - “ Did God call then into ministry while they were operating in sin. I say NO, that is not the characteristics or ways of our Holy God. If they have repented before being called, then I would say that could definitely be God calling them, since we all sin. However, God lets us know the Dangerous sins, which are rarely being preached!! God gave .Adam & Eve one warning promise, they broke the covenant (His warning promise) God kept HIS WARNING PROMISE, Rev. 22:18-19 - “ “if you add anything to this book, or take away anything from this book, I will take away your name from the BOOK OF LIFE!!!” We all need to hear the full truth from our leaders!!! At 85, I can tell you life is very short and very serious. We need to hear the full council of God, then it is our CHOICE, and when we blow it, leaders need emphasis TRUTH, SIN, & REPENTANCE!!!❤️❤️ ❤️❤️❤️😊

The fallen leader shouldn't go to treatment for their sin for the purpose of going back to ministry; the purpose of treatment is to treat the sin. If that is the objective for treatment, they are side stepping their sin

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Allen I was waiting 4 u to speak on this about pastors

The verbs in 1 Timothy 3 are all in the present tense. Some obviously reflect on past behavior, but it is a stretch to use present tense verbs to claim permanent disability. Trust of the sheep is important for shepherding, but the levels and kind of trust needed depends on the local situation. My view tends to be that local elders direct the affirs of their church. So if one set of elders applies 1 Tim 3 differently from another, that's OK. It is wrong however, to insist that the elders of other churches apply 1 Timothy 3 the same way you would. Your elders direct the affairs of your church. Their elders direct the affairs of their church. Kinda like it's wrong for parents to criticize parents of other children for debatable child raising practices.

Very good point, especially when it comes to subjective opinions.

Can a pastor who committed sexual assault of a minor be restored to the ministry?

Wilful, unrepentant or overly grievious sins are a distraction to the flock..and a shocking representation of all that is holy. Good job Allen

At 4:25, pastor says, "Nothing that you did before you came to Christ disqualifies you from ministry." What about sexually abusing kids?

Thought provoking information as always. I believe child abuse would be a non-negotiable disqualification.

These were good guidelines to build on Church leaders should call on him to set rules within the church or leadership conferences over a group of churches

Great teaching Allen!! Thank you! God bless you & your Family… my schoolmate!! Go Steelers🖤💛 😊

Keep these videos coming brother you are truly a blessing shout out from Toledo Ohio✊🏿✊🏿🙏🏿

I boils my blood to hear leaders say that pastors can get a pass if they have a one-time affair! A one-time affair disqualifies a pastor! PERIOD!!! It is very difficult to look at the pastor differently!!! Remember that the woman he slept with is a broken vessal- discarded and marked with the scarlet letter... her world is forever destroyed. Meanwhile, the pastor jumps back and returns to his normal life, and everyone APPLAUSE to what a great preacher he is. Then, not to mention the guilt and shame the pastor's wife CARRIES. And if she is like Carl Lentz's wife, then she is an empty shell! He has conditioned her to have blind eyes under the belief that if God forgives me, you too must forgive and forget. She is the epidmy of an enabler!

Able to teach means that you can break it down for the congregation. It is clear what characteristic is needed. Be tougher in your preaching please, Truth is truth. In these last days speak with a double edge sword amen

Galatians 6:1: Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Above reproach is actuality failry specific and objective. Essentially, if there's anyone in the community (Christian or otherwise)that has a legitimate social debt to correct from them then they aren't above reproach. Have they wronged someone and not made ammends? They aren't above reproach.

so you believe in confession? to whom?

There are many pastors who have had more than one with and nobody bats an eye. The fact that this was admitted from this video kind of proves that point. It’s treated like God was saying no polygamy, meanwhile ignoring the fact that divorce and remarriage is adultery.

What is your opinion on healing?

Any pastor or leader that commits adultery or pedo Isn’t worthy of teaching Priest and prophets and apostles were held to higher standards Even the scripture says Teachers will have a stricter judgement because they knew better

My question is: Whst should a Pastor do when they are falsely accused of all the wrong doings? Which can ruin their reputation instead of disqualification?

I believe that a pastor that has issues with church money should step down ministry indefinitely. Maybe assume a role that doesn’t involve management of church resources?

Its not repeated pattern. It is OH NO I GOT CAUGHT.

I feel a restoration would be okay with me, crime woukd be a different issue though.... however, its really up to the elders and ifnthe elders allow them back yhem congregation just have to make a choice to stay or go.

I’d ask but I haven’t been given the words yet.

I'm agreeing with your logic on this. It challenges me a bit tho. I'm in a setting where the division between teacher and the people being taught isn't that clear. Like a small house church. I really don't care to dig in anyone's past. I dig in my own tho. So even tho I'm not a pastor, I'm not a teacher, I really sometimes wonder if I'm unfit to do what I do - I study a lot, right now I have a little pause, but usually I study a lot, and people in my circle, I know they appreciate my opinion on matters when it comes to learning how to read the bible in context and offer insight on matters. Sometimes I feel like a teacher, but I'm not. And sometimes I feel like I'm unfit, or doing something I shouldn't, because of sins I did before I became a christian. And that's like 30 years ago. I take it seriously, but I think I take it too seriously too. I just don't wanna do anything that's not right towards my friends, and I don't wanna condemn myself also by teaching when I shouldn't. Meh, this is complicated and what I write is just my random thoughts coming up as I watch the video.

What if someone fell and was restored 20 years ago, but then the history came back up and the church calls for the guy to get removed... even though they already were restored 2 decades ago? They didn't slip or fall since, BUT because someone brought it back up, now people are upset and want to leave. Should the Elders support the pastor or support the congregation in this situation?

Here is a summary of the video transcript in bullet points: Introduction The speaker discusses the concept of disqualification from ministry, referencing 1 Corinthians 9:27, where Paul says he disciplines his body to avoid being disqualified from ministry. The speaker asks what exactly disqualifies a pastor from ministry and whether disqualification is temporary or permanent. Qualifications for Ministry The speaker references 1 Timothy 3, which lists qualifications for an overseer, including being above reproach, having a good reputation, being the husband of one wife, and being gentle and not quarrelsome. The speaker notes that some of these qualifications are subjective, while others are objective. Examples of Disqualification The speaker gives examples of behaviors that could disqualify a pastor from ministry, including: Adultery: if a pastor has committed adultery and has not confessed and repented, they may need to step down from ministry. Physical abuse: a pastor who has been physically abusive towards their wife or children is not fit for ministry. Heavy drinking: a pastor who is a heavy drinker may not be fit for ministry. Not teaching the word of God according to proper hermeneutical principles: a pastor who consistently misinterprets the Bible may not be fit for ministry. Questions to Ask The speaker poses several questions to ask when determining whether a pastor should step down from ministry, including: Has the pastor fully repented of their sin, or are they just sorry they got caught? Is the sin so egregious that trust cannot be regained? Is this a one-time violation or a repeated pattern? Have other trusted spiritual leaders deemed the person fit to return to ministry? Is the sin a distraction for the minister? Conclusion The speaker notes that the Bible does give qualifications for ministry, but many are subjective, and there is no clear example of a man being permanently disqualified from ministry in the Bible. The speaker encourages balance and nuance in determining whether a pastor should step down from ministry.

Pastor Daniel Muir needs to be in this category

Heavy drinker in my opinion means someone that gets drunk. Getting drunk (I've had a lot of experience with that unfortunately) is when you get to the point that you lose self control. For me personally there's this point of no return where if I cross it I will wake up either not remembering what happened after in the worse case but in most cases I will remember and often times that meant sinning in ways that I wouldn't have otherwise. More specifically; after becoming a Christian I drank too much once and the next day I remembered some sinful behavior. What was strange about it was that in that moment I didn't even stop to think that it was sinful. It's like being controlled by the flesh with the mind nearly absent. I actually prayed alot over that because I was confused and troubled that The Holy Spirit didn't convict me in that state. I "accidentally" drank too much so I didn't even think I was going to get drunk. Anyway, self control is the key and one fruit of The Holy Spirit is self control. That's what upset me about it. Not only did I mindlessly sin but I lost self control. Like an animal in fact.

What are your thoughts on Proverbs 6:27-33? (33) being the focus because you said there is no indication of permanent disqualification, just asking for your thoughts.

2 men come to mind when discussing a domineering attitude, Greg Locke and Mark Driscoll. Both of them are disqualified with their actions in just the last year while in the pulpit. This is why, IMO, we are seeing a decline in church attendance. There are so many hypocrites preaching.

Once again Allen Parr is on parr with the truth, well done Allen. I would only add that if it involves adultery with a woman from the congregation that He is pastor over that may change the eliminates of the situation, He may do all the rependive actions but He may need to move some where else. There is where He truly needs GOD's Direction. I may also add that being a Pastor is a serious position and must be respected to the highest degree and one in that position must try to resist certain sins almost to the point of sweating blood and if they feel they can not they should consider stepping down if they feel that they are on a Collision Course with a bad sin that is going to stand out among the people . This is the opinion of just a daily bible reader.