There is a huge overlap between Torahism and what Ellen White taught. My wife is SDA and is wrapped-up in a self righteousness with a deaf ear to the Truth.

William, Praying for you! 🙏🕊️🙏

Context my friend.... context.... learn it, THEN quote it. 1 John 3:23: And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, even as he gave us commandment.

Yes! ... John was quoting old testament! Also Num 15:15-16 Hopefully everyone here realizes 1 Torah ALL Israel! most christians believe that obedience is a bad word! We are ALL grafted into same Tree! HalleluYah!!!

I've experienced that very thing, Jonathan. Thanks! RLS

There is a widespread misunderstanding among the church about justification and sanctification. We are justified by faith. We are sanctified by obedience - obedience to His commandments. You cannot lose your justification. It is the gift of God.

@@TheBiblicalRoots Jonathan…Torah defines sin, as our (Godly) schoolmaster who brings us to Christ for forgiveness through repentance. 1John clearly declares that IF you keep on sinning, you never knew Jesus in the consummated marriage sense, exactly like the casual religious virgins who Jesus told (because they had no Light): I tell you the Truth…I never knew you! In spite of their waiting on Him! W H Y ? “…Thy Word is the LIGHT for my path.” They did not LOVE THE WORD, our Bridegroom…JUST LIKE ALL THESE SADLY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHO SAY “SABBATH IS NOT REQUIRED FOR MY SALVATION!” Which is technically true…but if you do not LOVE SABBATH AND THE WORD, YOU NEVER KNEW HIM!!! “Above all you shall keep my Sabbaths, for this is an eternal SIGN between me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I, YHVH Elohim, sanctify you. 14You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death.” Ex31:13esv If that doesn’t sound like a wedding ring, I don’t know what does…and you are correct about not earning salvation…but painfully remiss about forfeiting Salvation because you don’t conform to Jesus, who isn’t returning for casual hypergamous gold-diggers who don’t LOVE Him, and just want what He can give. If no man wants a bride like that, how can you imagine Jesus would! He tells us straight-up that He will cast those casual religious gold-diggers out into the outer darkness with the other sinners who lived various things more than obedience to the Law of Liberty and Life! Not required to earn salvation, but to KEEP IT…like a 🕎Rev14:12 Saint✝️

I know exactly what you mean.

You're disobeying the New Testament. ​@@nickylouse2

ABSOLUTELY, Jaylar! 🕎Rev14:12 Saints✝️

"I do not nullify the grace of God. For if righteousness comes by the law, then Messiah died in vain." (Galatians 2:21). "Messiah is the end of the law unto righteousness for every one who believes." (Romans 10:4). Therefore by the works of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for through the law comes the knowledge of sin." (Romans 3:20). "Then they asked Him, 'What shall we do that we may work the works of God?' Yeshua answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent." (John 6:28,29). "For He is our peace, who has made both groups one and has broken down the barrier of the dividing wall by ABOLISHING in His flesh the enmity, that is THE LAW of the commandments contained in ordinances, that IN HIMSELF He might make the two into one new humanity, thus making peace," (Ephesians 2:14,15). "I want to learn this from you" Did you receive the Spirit through the WORKS of the LAW, or by HEARING WITH FAITH? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the SPIRIT, are you now being perfected by the FLESH?" (Galatians 3:2,3). "What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, until the Seed should come to whom the promise was made." (Galatians 3:19). "But the LAW entered, so that SIN MIGHT INCREASE, but where sin increased, GRACE abounded much more." Romans 5:20). "But before the law came, we were imprisoned under the law, kept for the faith which was later to be revealed. So the law was our tutor to bring us to Messiah, that we might be JUSTIFIED BY FAITH. But NOW THAT FAITH HAS COME, we are NO LONGER UNDER A TUTOR. (Galatians 3:23-25). "He blotted out the handwriting of ORDINANCES that was AGAINST US and contrary to us, and He took it out of the way, NAILING IT TO THE CROSS. (Colossians 2:14). "If the ministry that brought DEATH, written and ENGRAVED ON STONES, was glorious so that the children of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, the glory which was to FADE AWAY, how will the ministry of the SPIRIT not be more glorious? For if the ministry of CONDEMNATION is glorious, the ministry of RIGHTEOUSNESS much more exceeds in glory." (2 Corinthians 3:7-9). "There is therefore, NOW, NO CONDEMNATION for those who are in Messiah Yeshua. For the LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE in Messiah Yeshua has set me FREE from the LAW OF SIN AND DEATH." (Romans 8:1,2).

@@adamperez8555"But I reveal to you, brothers, that the good news which was preached by me is not according to man. for I neither received it from man, neither was i taught it, except by a revelation of Yeshua the Messiah." (see Galatians 1:11,12). "Keep in mind that the patience of our Lord means salvation, even as our beloved brother Paul has also written to you according to the wisdom given to him. As in all his letters, he writes about these things, in which some things are hard to understand, which the unlearned and unstable distort, as they also do the OTHER SCRIPTURES, to their own destruction. (see 2 Peter 3:15,16). There is no contradiction in Scripture, which is the Word of God, just a misunderstanding of which covenant we are in by those who think they are still under law. Yeshua's ministry was still in the old covenant, teaching law to those under law, showing them they could not keep the law and needed a Savior. (see Matthew 10: 5,6, Matthew 15:24). The new covenant didn't start until after the cross (see Hebrews 9:16,17). Jesus said He would send scribes, prophets and wise men. (see Matthew 23:34,35) which includes Paul. And Holy Spirit will "take what is Mine and declare it to you." (see John 16:15). So the inconsistency is not in God's Word, but in those who don't know what covenant they are in. No longer under any old covenant law, but ""the law of the Spirit of life in Messiah Yeshua has set us free from the law of sin and death (that's the law of Moses, see 2 Corinthians 3:6-9).

The commandments He was speaking of werent the ten or 600 commandments

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That is very kind of you, Steve! Thank you. This channel has been growing nicely over the last few months and I am trusting God that we will reach the people He wants us to reach. I am glad you're here. Shalom, Rob

Most sound teachers don’t have a large following. 👍

Rob, I greatly appreciate your ministry! It has helped me so much to understand the (almost) overwhelming frustration of dealing with these issues. Your friend from Spain in the interview took the boggle right out of my own mind also when he talked about how they take things out of context like pouring water out of a glass (my own rendition) and HOW DO THEY GET AWAY WITH IT?? Our friends of over 20 years went all in on Hebrew roots and now we're sinners and lawbreakers. We used to fellowship and pray together. I only started understanding the jargon and the "Well, if Jesus said it then we should do it...) mantra, after coming upon the movement by wordsearching "Hebrew" after he was insisting we couldn't know the truth unless we knew the original languages. He still insists that he found this all out on his own by digging in and studying over a 20 year period. Of course, the commentary he wrote out when I told him I wanted to see his studies was in every aspect COOKIE CUTTER (in laymans terms) to what the mainline teachers of the movement put out. I will go as far as labeling it (at least) cult-ish. Or, maybe that's a label I'm hanging on them because they've split up a long standing relationship/fellowship and I'm upset...and not just a little bit, to put it nicely. At least now, after tons of research, I have an understanding and a peace about not being able to communicate any truth into the situation. It's still frustrating, but now I know why. I wrote a (somewhat scathing) rebuke to the points he wrote in his statement but decided not to give it to him because I know now he is not open to an honest, factual critique. I would call it programmed.What I will do is start sending him teaching after teaching from others, like yourself. He might be open to challenges from other than myself. Again, I'm grateful to you for taking on the work of such a needed ministry. And there are many others who have taken up the battle also. God bless you.

@@khristanelson5076 I agree. I prefer the smaller humble accounts.

HI Jimbo. He did so because He was a Jewish man born under the law (Gal 4:4). Blessings, Rob

Hi, TIC! No, my position on Torah-keeping for followers of Jesus has not changed.

He is lost.

Hi, Ruth! 1.) Both are believers in Jesus. *Messianic Jews* are people who are (a.) ethnically Jewish and believe that (b.) the followers of Jesus are not required to keep the Law of Moses. On the other hand, *Hebrew Roots* are (a.) Gentiles who believe that (b.) the followers of Jesus *_are_* required to keep the Law of Moses. 2.) Yes, the NT teaches that keeping the Mosaic traditions is permitted but not required for followers of Jesus. But it's important to note that doing so will not add anything to our righteousness in God's eyes (Gal. 2:16). 3.) When Yeshua says “follow my commandments,” he does *not* then quote the law of Moses. The Torah is still relevant, but the Law of Moses is no longer required. (See our video: *4 Facts About the Law of Moses* kzfaq.infop_gI9z79GAA Blessings, Rob

Thank you, Dr. Solberg. Your answers bring literal tears of relief. Simple. Straight to scripture. Clear. I’ve been asking these questions since 2012 and have never gotten such concision, only more confusion. Freedom is blossoming! Been in/out of Hebrew Roots since 2012.

@ruth5227 This is the simplest answer to your question. Isaiah 56 “Keep justice, and do righteousness, For My salvation is about to come, And My righteousness to be revealed. 2 Blessed is the man who does this, And the son of man who lays hold on it; Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And keeps his hand from doing any evil.” 3 Do not let the son of the foreigner Who has joined himself to the Lord Speak, saying, “The Lord has utterly separated me from His people”; Nor let the eunuch say, “Here I am, a dry tree.” 4 For thus says the Lord: “To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, And choose what pleases Me, And hold fast My covenant, 5 Even to them I will give in My house And within My walls a place and a name Better than that of sons and daughters; I will give [a]them an everlasting name That shall not be cut off. 6 “Also the sons of the foreigner Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him, And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants- Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And holds fast My covenant- 7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain, And make them joyful in My house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices Will be accepted on My altar; For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.” 8 The Lord God, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, says, “Yet I will gather to him Others besides those who are gathered to him.”

-is it okay for believers (whether jew or gentile) to observe some of the commandments just out of enthusiasm? (Not out of a need for salvation or anything) *Why? That’s like asking should an atheist be moral if there is no cosmic scorekeeper making a list and checking it twice, trying to figure out if they have been naughty or nice. They will just ask, “Why bother, it’s not going to make any difference to my outcome.” Once you release people out from under God’s law and authority, people will inevitably creep over to a might makes right sort of survival of the fittest opportunistic mentality-especially when push comes to shove. The law of God, on the other hand, teaches love as the primary motivation in its two great commandments, so any attack on the law is intended as a direct attack on love itself. So, the question is do we have to love God and our neighbor in order to be saved, if not, then our future will inevitably become a very unloving, dangerous existence. This is why the last two parables of Matthew 25 are the two great commandments in disguise. When the unprofitable servant did no works, his master tossed him out as unprofitable, but spared those who did works and increased their talents. When the goats did no works, Christ sent them to the firey furnace prepared also for Satan and his angels. Because the goats weren’t willing to lift a finger to help those in need. But, the sheep who did the work of meeting the needs of others were spared. So, Christ seems rather clear that our salvation depends on doing the works of the law, the opposite of what most Christians teach today. Because, Christ in Revelation 22:12-14 jealously guards the tree of life and entrence into his holy city, granting that honor only to commandment keepers. Everyone else in verse 15 is stuck outside the holy city with no access to the tree of life. So, people can claim to be saved by grace without works all they want, but unless they are a blessed commandment keeper, Christ is clear they won’t get anywhere remotely close to the tree of life.* -if not the law of Moses, what instructions are believers supposed to follow? When Yeshua says “follow my commandments,” he then quotes the law of Moses, implying that the instruction of the Torah is still relevant… *Excellent point! But, let’s take this even further. In Revelation 15, we find that those who actually get the victory and stand on the sea of glass sing the song of Moses and the Lamb. Why Moses and the Lamb this long after the cross and not the song of Paul and his “messenger of Satan” that he admits to having in 2Corrinthians 12:7: just one chapter after warning us to not marvel over the idea that Satan’s ministers are transformed into ministers of righteousness??? Didn’t Paul’s ideas on being “saved by grace” replace the need for Moses??? Or, was Paul an infiltrator sent in to test us to see if we truly love god, like God says he would do in Deuteronomy 13? When people toss out the law, they aren’t even aware God might test them according to standards he set up in his law. So, they set themselves up to fail this particular test. The majority of Christians today do not strongly follow the Good Shepherd of John 10, so they don’t know the real connection between Moses and the Lamb and why they are so critical to accept as a pair together in order to gain the victory. Moses and Yeshua are the two prophets of Deuteronomy 18. And so, true believers will come to this realization and not join Paul and his Messenger of Satan in coming out from under God’s law, but they will realize that Paul is guilty of violating Isaiah 8:20 where God judges there is no light in him, and that God desires that his people bind up the testimony and seal the law among his disciples in Isaiah 8:16. This is a teaching derived from binding the law to the right hand and forehead in Deuteronomy 6. Because to come out from under the seal of God’s law and abandon that protection of God sets a person up to instead receive the mark of the beast in their right hand and forehead in Revelation 14 in the Third Angel’s Message. But, those who do not take the mark in verse 12, they keep the commandments of God (that which was taught to Moses) and have the testimony of Yeshua (that which Messiah taught in the gospels). So, that is why they sing the Song of Moses and the Lamb, because they realize the law and the gospels are complementary messages, not messages at war with each other where Christians are left trying to use the gospel to abolish the law to their own detriment. And so, we find in Revelation 12:17 that Lucifer makes war with those who keep the commandments of God and the testimony of Yeshua, but strangely isn’t making war with those who come out from under the law and teach that we are “saved by grace” (something Christ never uttered in his teachings). Because Lucifer isn’t in disagreement with the grace ideas of Paul or his messenger of Satan either one, but he is desperately at war with anyone who recognizes the law and the gospel together form the true backbone to a proper explanation of the plan of salvation. From here, God warns in Zechariah 7 of how his people have a heart like an adamant stone which God defines to be those who refuse to hear his law and the words he sent by his Spirit through his prophets. This same stony heart is what God is trying to remove from his people in Ezekiel 11 and 36 to give them a new heart: a heart willing to hear his law, because he will write his “torah” law in the hearts of those who come under the New Covenant of Jeremiah 31:31-34 when they stop rejecting Moses and the writings of torah. How can God write his law into the hearts of those who refuse to hear his law and seek to come out from under his law in Romans 6:14 or believe God’s law is not for a righteous man in 1 Timothy 1:9 like Paul believes???

@@coreybray9834 Shabbat Shalom!

Like a serpent.

Hallo, George! In my research, there is not one monolithic doctrine of belief that all HRM subscribe to. And I have not come across any HRM teachings specifically about atonement. It does not appear to be a part of their Torah-keeping theology. Thus, I would say the majority of Torah-keepers seem to believe in the "mainstream" Christian doctrine of atonement, that it comes through the blood of Christ alone. Most (but not all) HRM take the position that keeping Torah is not a matter of salvation, but rather obedience. Gnade und Frieden, Rob

Thank you for your kind and swift reply. I have read a number of HRM speakers on the Atonement but they merely concentrait on a misunderstanding of Yom Kippur, fasting and selling trinkets. I just cannot find any serious Biblical study of the Atonement in their teaching. God bless your ministry, George@@TheBiblicalRoots

⁠ As a faithful follower of Jesus, the Living Torah, who wisely accepts the many warnings He gave regarding Mt5:19, 7:23, 25:1-13 & 2Peter3:14-17 LAWLESSNESS as a Rev14:12 Saint, the first thing that comes to mind in TaNaKh is Isaiah1:18 & 53:1-12 and Psalm2 & 22. Exodus31:13esv figures in as the eternal virtual wedding ring SIGN between our Creator and all His people…but most of them are more interested in the Sign of the Beast…which is curious. What I would give if the discourse given by Messiah AFTER the resurrection on the road to Emmaus had been recorded, but He evidently wanted us to learn Torah ourselves…until we are with Him and like Him and it is WRITTEN ON OUR HEARTS-amen?! What will all these Christian ministers who practice Mt7:23 lawlessness say then? Oh…that’s right, Jesus rejects them so we will never know… There won’t be any of this ridiculous lawlessness going on THEN, brothers…Selah -US Army brat, raised at a Yager Haus/Biergarten above Nordheim near Volkach, with a old SS officer and family with three daughters: Paul and Priska, Ursula, Renata and Sabila-Grüß Gott

The 7th-day Sabbath of God's 4th Commandment.. is indeed the "one" ( well, 3 of the commandments, if u include The 1st and 2nd Commandments too of virgin Mary & Saints idolatry worship , and, making & bowing down to graven images, from the Catholics ) ... that most of Christendom agree to "practice" breaking... Sad : ( ... Let's not forget the rebuke of Christ to the Pharisees of Judaism for keeping their man-made "traditions" over the Commandments of God, in Matthew 15 and Mark 7 ... Likewise, the "Pharisees" within Christianity have done and still teach the same thing. : (

Thank you, MC! I believe The Ten reflect God's perfect, eternal principles as expressed to the nation of Israel before Christ. They are part of our Bible and therefore "breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness" (2 Tim 3:16). That said, Christians today under Christ and New Covenant are not under The Ten _as they were given in the legal sense_ through Moses. However, they still very much apply to us in spirit. For example, hidden in the prohibition against "images of God" (Ex 20:4) is the promise of God giving us His image in His Son, who "is the image of the invisible God" (Col 1:15). To see him is to see the Father (John 14:9). And yet, we are still to avoid idolatry (1 Cor 10:1-22). Likewise, we are not under the Mosaic legal regulations for Shabbat (Col 2:16-17), but we still have a Sabbath in Christ (See my video *Is Jesus our Sabbath?* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q8mbrbyZ35-dkWg.html). And it is wise for us to take one day every week to rest in God and acknowledge Him as our Lord and provider. And the moral laws regarding murder, adultery, slander, coveting, etc. are all repeated and re-taught in the NT and still apply to Christ-followers. Shalom, Rob

My understanding of the OT law is that EVERYTHING stated in the Exodus to Numbers IS the law. Not just the 10 Commandments. What we carry forward in our Christian walk are the moral laws that God wrote in EVERYONE's hearts. See Romans 2:14-15. In my opinion, if Sabbath keeping is a requirement, then all the other laws should be kept. (I'm obviously excluding sacrificial laws from this conversation). The Israelites had to obey the whole law- not just the 10 Commandments. The rest of the law wasn't just made up by Moses. It was God's word.

Why do you Anti-Torah people call it HRM?

Thanks, Ernesto! Here are a few other teachers who have dealt with this subject: Dr. Michael Heiser: drmsh.com/hebrew-roots-movement Mike Winger also has some good teachings: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7hnq7eKzb6pkqM.html. As does Andrew Schumacher: kzfaq.info/sun/PLHpxocVjShD3ttsDP6nADNYr7q49MURcD

can I suggest an author. God. Bible. you know what to do.

@@TheBiblicalRoots I follow Andrew Schumacher. He recommended your content and thus I started to follow. I also follow Mike Winger - who in my opinion does great going in depth regarding the issues with the Hebrew Roots movement.

@@ernestosandoval4754 mike winger has tons of errors in his teaching of torah observant believers.

Here’s a great passage from The Greatest Author in the universe: 2 Corinthians 3:7-18 Remember way back in the Old Testament-Jeremiah 3:16-Jeremiah 3:8…read all Jeremiah 3. Titus 1:14 1 Timothy 1:9 Roman’s 4:14-15 Read the Book of Galatians and Romans. Read Hebrews 3 and 4. God Be with you!

Hello, CP! The Bible gives us very little instruction on taking the Lord's Supper. It simply teaches that we are to take bread and wine in remembrance of Jesus' death on our behalf. Scripture offers no direction on what type of bread, what type of wine, how many people should be present, how often it should occur, and so on. So my recommendation is that we not get legalistic or dogmatic about it. In my opinion, the importance of this sacrament lies in the taking in of physical elements (whatever kind of bread and wine we use), to remind us of the physical death that Jesus suffered, and that, in doing so, our hearts and minds are focused on remembering His amazing sacrifice for us. Blessings, Rob

@@TheBiblicalRoots God bless you. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Matzoh NOT LEAVENED BREAD and wine not grape juice.

Jesus said “as often as you do THIS, you do it in remembrance of me" remembrance of me." What is the"THIS"? He's instructing his disciples to remember him on the Passover that happens once a year. It’s not communion. It’s the Passover. And Passover is celebrated with Matzoh and wine not bread and grape juice.

@@randysandford4033"As OFTEN as you to this" not as SELDOM as you do this. "Therefore, if you died with Messiah to the elementary principles of the world, why as if you were living in this world, do you subject yourself to LEGALISTIC RULES? 'Do not touch! Do not taste! Do not handle!' These all are to perish with use and are aligned with the COMMANDMENTS and the TEACHINGS OF MEN." (Colossians 2:20-22) Jesus is now our Passover and our Sabbath rest, and we have Him 365/24/7, not just once a year. "Therefore, let NO ONE JUDGE YOU regarding food, or drink, or in respect of a HOLY DAY (Passover), or a new moon or SABBATH DAYS. These are SHADOWS of things to come, but the SUBSTANCE is Messiah. Tragically, these Legalists are embracing the shadows rather than the substance, Who is Yeshua.

See 17:40 in this video.. Solberg could go much deeper but the point is made well. Take special note that torah observers generally do not want to believe there are three Persons in One God....................... Ancient Jews knew there were multiple persons but after Christianity spread they decided to hold an untenable position that there is only one Person God The Father. Nevermind Isaiah6 or many other scriptures..

The thing I find while I work in an SDA business is that most of the people I talk to that are SDA actually say something like "I keep the Sabbath because I think its just good for you to relax one day as God said" or they say "I only eat no meat because I was raised that way, I dont think you have to" while they secretly think the opposite. I think they just dont understand and are in a cult and wouldnt be able to debate their way out of a paper bag.

Thank you, Christina! That is a beautiful description of the richness and ancient connection that can come from a proper understanding of the Hebrew roots of our faith. Shalom, Rob

Christina Dufek I hear you…but let’s look at the logic behind your comment “out of Egypt”.(if I may challenge your belief gently for a moment in love) Read Hebrews 3 and 4 line by line. Read each sentence carefully and slowly. See God was angry with rebellious hard hearts…the people had been taken out of Egypt as you stated but could you unfortunately be falling into the same trap? Do you not see what God is saying here in both Hebrews 3 and 4? “Today if you will hear His voice do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion”… “Indeed was it not ALL WHO CAME OUT OF EGYPT led by Moses”? “So we see that they could not enter in because of UNBELIEF”. Do you not understand that Jesus Christ is Who you must focus on? You have rest in Christ Jesus 24/7 that is what you are reading…. There is a passage in Gods Word that speaks of a veil being over the eyes of the followers of Moses to this day… Challenge yourself and find out where that passage is. God Bless you Sister. Praise His Mighty Name!!!

@@TruthSetFree-zm1ep Thank you for your challenge. I agree with all that you have said, as well as the warning. Any and all things must flow through the truth of, and love for, Jesus Christ. Otherwise the veil of unbelief still holds true. To leave Egypt is to walk away and be set free from man made traditions, and allow the Lord Jesus Himself to reveal how all of scripture points to Him. We get to partake in the Holy Days that the Father established with that very veil of unbelief lifted. It is pure and joyous.

@@christinadufek9308 my family is trying to get away from these traditions we hold today, the bible is very clear that God despises the pagan holidays, idk once Yeshua found me I have wanted to do nothing except please my father, just as my Jewish Messiah and Savior Yeshua did. I see our holidays differently now, i think I see a lot of things differently now.. I do wonder why people think everything from the Torah is practically obsolete. Yeah, Yeshua said in Matthew 5 that he came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it. But, our God is still the same, the Torah breaks down a moral code that does great things when applied to your daily life. We may not be under the law but there is still so many blessings within its words.

Amen Amen Amen

I'm glad you found it, too, Maximiliano! Blessings, Rob

We don’t keep the law perfectly nor for salvation that is why Jesus died on the cross for our sins. But just like a wife may take back her repentant husband for being unfaithful, he does not continue being unfaithful. He tries to be a better husband. Similarly, we desire to be a better bride of Christ. Will we be perfect? Not until His work is finished in us and we are with Him in heaven. Until then, we do our best, because we love Him and we want to do His will and over time He conforms our will to His.

Thank you Jude. Bless you! Rob

Faith is the one requirement for entering God's rest. Now we who have believed enter that rest. Hebrews 4:3 Faith in Jesus is how we enter that rest. Our Sabbath rest is in Christ. Yeshua is our Shabbat. Jesus is our rest, our Sabbath. The Torah Sabbath is not our Sabbath. That Sabbath pointed us to Christ, to the real Sabbath, the real rest. If we're in Christ, we're not under the legal Sabbath observance commanded in the Law of Moses. This might explain why, in the New Testament, the Mosaic regulations regarding the Sabbath are nowhere repeated or re-taught, even though the rest of the Ten Commandments are. Our rest in Jesus is an unearned gift from the Father, and keeping the Mosaic Sabbath regulations won't contribute anything to that rest, or to our standing before God. While keeping those Sabbath observances is no longer required, it's also not been forbidden. So if someone wants to keep Shabbat, even as it was given in the Torah, they're free in Christ to do so as a matter of personal preference. Under the New Covenant, keeping the Mosaic Sabbath regulations is permitted but not required. Christ is our Sabbath. Jesus said, "Take my yoke upon you and I will give you rest." He also said " it is finished " There's nothing we could do, no weekly rest, or Torah observance, or Jewish traditions that could add a single thing to what Christ has already accomplished.

Yes sir, James! Mt7:23. Jesus did not come to bring peace, but a sword of division between sheep and goats. 🕎Rev14:12 Saints✝️

@@krisztianpatay9812 You are correct to say that Christ has fulfilled all the requirements of the Law… Otherwise he would not have been the perfect Lamb of God, able to take away our sin! The ball is in your court now, sir! Will you conform to Him and walk like He walked, or console yourselves on the wide smooth easy road of the 5 casual religious virgins? “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and was God, and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.” You sir, are rejecting that Word at your own peril. Why do you think Jesus warned us about the casually foolish virgins who had no Light? “Thy Word is the Light for my path,“ yet you are rejecting parts of it just like the Christians who were rejected in Matthew 7:23-but WHY? Because a pagan Roman dictator made Sabbath illegal, and replaced it with Sun-worship-day in 321AD, and our fathers saved their unfaithful pagan lives by following that dictator’s heresy? You have some catching up to do to make sure that you are not on the wide road, but conforming to the Word like a faithful Bride. You cannot be in covenant With our Savior and our Father and continue sinning. Do you want to also throw out all of 1John? Define the key word in Mt7:23: anomia…and live. 🕎Rev14:12 Saints✝️

@@Truth2ber No Christian is sinning by not observing the Sabbath as the Jews were required to. Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. It’s interesting that Jesus didn’t command us to keep the whole Law of Moses, yet He kept it Himself. How does that add up? Well, it turns out there are two reasons this makes good sense. First, Jesus was Jewish. Unlike every Gentile in history, Jesus was actually under the Law of Moses. And, second, at His resurrection, the entire world changed. That one event split history in two and brought an end to the Sinai covenant (Heb 8:13). The book of Galatians teaches that the Law was given as a guardian until Jesus came, but now that He has come, we’re no longer under the Law. (Gal 3:24-25). And Ephesians 2 says that Jesus abolished “the law of commandments expressed in ordinances” so that He might reconcile both Jews and Gentiles to God (Eph 2:14-16). The Law of Moses was in effect for the Jewish people right up until the day Jesus was crucified. On that day, the New Covenant began. Jesus told us at the Last Supper that the New Covenant was in His blood (Luke 22:20, 1 Cor 11:25). And upon His resurrection, He became our new High Priest, and “when there is a change of the priesthood, there must be a change of law as well” (Heb 7:12). So Jesus lived His life under the Law of Moses (Gal 4:4-5). And upon His death, as the apostle Paul put it, He “redeemed us from the curse of the law” (Gal 3:13). Walking as Jesus walked doesn’t mean we have to keep the Law of Moses. To walk as Jesus walked is to walk in the light; to live our lives in the truth of God, and to walk in love. That's the command Jesus require new covenant believers to do. You, my friend, are nothing but a judaizer not a true follower of Christ. You're a false teacher Paul warned the church about.

@@krisztianpatay9812 Wonderful post. 🙏

Galatians 2:21 says it well not to following the Old Testament laws.

Facts pertaining to God's law Isaiah 8:20 20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Deuteronomy 4:2 2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. Proverbs 30:6 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. Ecclesiastes 7:20 20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not. Please note that these verses apply to all people, including Jesus also. After all, he taught them himself. Luke 16:17 17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. Matthew 5:17-19 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. Proverbs 28:9 9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. --------------------------------------------- But what did Apostle Paul teach which no other taught? Galatians 2:16 16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Galatians 3:23 23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Galatians 3:10 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. Deuteronomy 11:26-28 26 Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; 27 A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you this day: 28 And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known. Galatians 5:18 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Ezekiel 36:27 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. Romans 6:14 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Beetle mania.

The way its looked at is, these are the laws God put on mankind and we are to follow them. Where as before Christ, to fall short was dangerous to ones salvation, now we are covered by the blood of Christ. So we ask for forgiveness for where we fall short. Ive really been digging in on this subject, and I have heard more scripture based arguments from the HRM. I am very interested in hearing the argument of Christians who do not feel torah is necessary.

We don’t keep the law perfectly nor for salvation that is why Jesus died on the cross for our sins. But just like a wife may take back her repentant husband for being unfaithful, he does not continue being unfaithful. He tries to be a better husband. Similarly, we desire to be a better bride of Christ. Will we be perfect? Not until His work is finished in us and we are with Him in heaven. Until then, we do our best, because we love Him and we want to do His will and over time He conforms our will to His.

Hi, Aaron. I've not studied the orthodox church much, although I have a friend who is Russian Orthodox. (And one of my favorite musical artists is the Kiev Chamber Choir!) I know they affirm key doctrines such as the Trinity, the Bible as the Word of God and Jesus as God the Son. But I don't subscribe to their theology because, as far as I have seen, they don't teach justification by faith (which I see as a key teaching of the Bible!), and they hold the authority of church tradition on the level of Scripture, to the point that they seem to discourage people from interpreting the Bible apart from church tradition, which I do not find biblical. That said, I do believe there are many Orthodox and Catholic believers who are genuinely saved and are our brothers and sisters in Christ. Blessings, RLS

"I want to learn this from you; Did you receive the Spirit through the works of the law, or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?" (Galatians 3:2,3)

@@richardstark1977 those that belong to Him, have belonged to Him before the foundation of the world. So, indeed we start and finish in the spirit. Perhaps the law was a physical subconscious reminder of where we come from and where we are headed back to.

@@primalway1317 The Father foreknew you from the foundation of the world, but you began in the spirit, when you were born from above by faith (see John 3:7).The law entered so that sin might increase, but where sin increased, grace abounded much more. The law goes back to the garden of Eden, the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The 10 commandments, written on stone, are actually called the "ministry of condemnation and death" (see 2 Corinthians 3:7-9). Adam had only one law and failed, but "by the obedience of ONE, the many were made righteous." (see Romans 5:19). Our life, in the new covenant, is not secured by our obedience, like Adam, but by the Obedience of ONE, Jesus. We have a better covenant based on better promises. So, I respectfully disagree, we did not start at the foundation of the world, every believer's beginning, was at the cross, when Jesus said "It is Finished." The only race we run where we start at the "Finished Line." That is the start that Paul is referring to when he asked the Galatians, "who bewitched you?" "Having begun in the Spirit (faith), you are now being perfected by the flesh?" Clearly, our lives began when we confessed with our mouth Jesus is Lord and believed in our hearts that God raised Him from the dead. Yes, God's plan for redemption is from the foundation of the world, but if we could be perfected by law, then why would Jesus have to suffer the cross?

@@primalway1317Looking at Scripture, I disagree with you regarding where we started, and when we belonged to Him. "therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called the "uncircumcision" by the so-called "circumcision" in the flesh by human hands, WERE AT THAT TIME APART FROM MESSIAH, ALIENATED from citizenship of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, without hope and without God in the world. But NOW in Messiah Yeshua you who were formerly far away have been brought near by the blood of Messiah. For He is our peace, who has made both groups one and has broken down the barrier (the law) of the dividing wall, by ABOLISHING in His flesh the ENMITY, that is THE LAW OF THE COMMANDMENTS CONTAINED IN ORDINANCES, that He might make the two into one new humanity, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile both to God into one body THROUGH THE CROSS, thereby slaying the enmity." (THE LAW) (see Ephesians 2:11-16). So we didn't belong to God, didn't get our "start" until the CROSS. If you are under law, you are not under a "physical subconscious reminder of where we come from and where we are headed back to" rather you are placing yourself under the "ministry of condemnation and death" (see 2 Corinthians 3:7-9) by which no one was ever made righteous. (see Romans 3:20). Only by receiving by faith the "free gift of righteousness" (see Romans 5:17) do we become "the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus" (see 2 Corinthians 5:21). So all those who belong to God got there "start" by faith in the Finished Work of Jesus, not by the law of Moses.

Hi Joey. Thanks for reaching out! That whole Hebrew Roots issue with the names is a very strange thing, in my opinion. It seems to me to be a misguided attempt to revere God. I suppose one thing you could point out to your friend is that the names of the months in the Hebrew calendar are actually Babylonian in origin. They were adopted by the Jews as of the time of the Babylonian exile in the sixth century BCE. According to MyJewishLearning.com, "The Bible indicates the months were oftentimes called simply by their numerical position in the year (First Month, Second Month, etc.), just as the days of the week - with the exception of Shabbat - still are in Hebrew. In addition, the Bible does record some ancient names for the months that disappeared once the Jews adopted the Babylonian names. These include the now-forgotten months of Bul and Aviv, among others." Also, Solomon used labor and materials from pagan nations to build the first temple to the Lord. So it sounds to me like your friend is overreaching in her attempt to avoid being tainted by paganism and show reverence to God. You might also ask her to explain to you _from Scripture_ why the name Jesus cannot be spoken out loud. I'd be curious how she justifies it. Blessings, Rob

See this spreading all through the church! Some even express a kind of animosity toward the name of JESUS! It's so distressing to see this. How can we even pray together when we can't even agree on what name we should call God?

@@TheBiblicalRoots Thanks much Rob for your answers. I agree with you on these matters. Also this movement has no solid ground. I was trying to check if they have Biblical-statement of faith, sadly I found none. The sad thing about my friend is that she's trying to be so indignant towards true Christians because, in her mind the name Jesus, the Trinity, the Church, to name a few have their roots in paganism. She, I think is delusional. She thinks of everyone in the Church as deceived. She has no confidence in the New Testament Scriptures because it was written in Koine Greek. According to her, based on the materials she sought, NT Scriptures should be written in Hebrew language. It's an argument from silence, I believe if she continues to defend this faulty understanding.

@@steveharris9610 Yeah exactly! They are so meticulous in using the name Yahuah, Yahusha. Failure to utter the true name of God in Hebrew, according to them is in a clear violation. Violation in a sense that we are calling a false god if we do not address it right.

@@joeylavaro4320 I'd ask if she thinks God is stupid-- even my kids know who I'm talking to, even if I call one of them by the name of the other. The Scriptures were, of course, written in Greek. It was the lingua franca of the world and educated men at that time. Ask her if she thinks God is incompetent. Did He allow His Apostles, men and women appointed to build the first floors, so to speak, of His Church upon this Earth, to be in complete error from the beginning? Not just to make mistakes in writing Scripture, *but to write it in completely the wrong language*? It's absurd. Of course, the Name of Jesus in Scripture is "Iesous", Greek form of Joshua/Jeshua/Jehoshua, a name meaning "Jah (Yahweh/Jehovah) is [our] salvation". The spelling/pronunciation "Jesus" is merely the Latinized form of the Greek. As to her assertion that the Church has roots in paganism: ask her if she believes Christ was a liar. He said He would build His Church, and the gates of Hell itself would not prevail against it. He also promised that the Holy Spirit would come and lead His Church into all Truth... So did it? Or was He not telling the truth? Did God fail in His promise to uphold His church, His Bride, His very Body? If all Truth and the right ways of speaking of and to God were lost, what happened? The Church has been here ever since Christ established it, without cease. The churches/ meeting places spoken of in Scripture still stand today, for the most part, and have been continually inhabited, handed down from one Bishop to another under the Eastern Orthodox Church, in unbroken line of descent from the Apostles themselves, and the bishops/overseers they appointed. I myself have from time to time used the name "Yehoshua" to refer to Jesus Christ, as it gives me a sense of connection with the full import and implication of His Holy Name, that He was and is both fully Man and fully God, that "Jehovah is salvation", that the Ancient of Days, the Lord of Hosts, Yahweh-sabaoth, has declared me redeemed and called me "son", and freed me from my bondage. But to even imply that one is required to speak of or to Our Lord only in the language of the Old Testament.... Nonsense. Christ Himself likely spoke Greek, along with Aramaic (which would have been the "native" tongue of the Jews in Palestine at the time, if I recall correctly, not Hebrew, which was mostly only used by religious scholars by the time of Christ).

Hi, Roland. I think you're conflating the seventh day creation with the seventh day of the week. Blessings, RLS

@@TheBiblicalRoots Who is Roland?

@md3696 apparently it’s Jehovah Witness

That's beautiful, Kenton. Thanks! R.

Thanks, Leonor. I do have a video on that topic. *How do we walk like Jesus walked* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNOCqtect9rHfmg.html. Blessings, Rob

It’s interesting, isn’t it? My family was sold on the idea that Jesus kept the Torah perfectly to show us how. They will say that Jesus never said or did anything outside of the Torah. I don’t understand how they can read the accounts of Jesus’ life, and continue to affirm that! One of the things I asked my dad is “are we all supposed to be crucified on a Roman execution rack?” Christ shows us the breadth and depth and love that the Father has for each and every person, and Christ went around picking out the “wrong kinds of people” to be with. I believe as He said, that all the law can be summarized under the heading “Love God, love others.” In ancient Israelite culture, this meant killing an ox that gored your neighbor to death. I’ve never had an ox. Or a Hebrew slave, etc etc etc. Most of the commands of the Torah seem culturally and situationally specific. Under the new covenant, we start with forgiveness, we learn from Jesus, and the Spirit guides us on how to love. (There were always people finding loopholes in the law anyway). The Spirit is who leads us in our culture and individual settings how to see our neighbor and enemies as as important as ourselves. Hope that gives you some food for thought

@@spacebobs01 Thanks, Staci! In fact, under the Mosaic Law, those who were hanged on a tree were cursed. The law made it illegal to leave the body hanging overnight. This law applied to Jesus, who was executed on a tree, although He had done no wrong. Jesus’ dead body was removed from the cross on the same day of His death and was buried. Jesus took the curse of sin upon Himself to redeem us from sin. Shalom, Rob

@@TheBiblicalRoots hey thanks, but are you sure that is a reply to what I wrote? Is your reply in the wrong place? I’m just alerting you, cuz it seems so

I would say He fulfilled the Torah rather than He kept it. Such as, He was Born at Trumpets and Circumcised on the Day of Atonement. Jesus Christ was the last required Circumcision. The Circumcision Covenant pointed to Jesus Christ. Millions of people circumcised to point to Jesus Christ. “Through the loins of Abraham all nations will be blessed”. Reading through Hebrews and Galatians with this in heart, fulfill vs. kept will open the eyes of the heart.

Hi, Andria. Since I don't call Paul a false apostle or reject his teachings, I don't see a need to find "grace through faith" elsewhere in Scripture. That said, I think we see it in many places. For example, the Israelites coming into the Promised Land. They were led there by the grace of God and entered the Land through faith. (The book of Numbers tells us that the Israelites who died in the wilderness and did not make it into the Promised Land died because of their unbelief.) Blessings, Rob

Hi Teresa! The 10 Commandments were given as the foundation of the Old Covenant law. As I see it, those Commandments do not apply to Christians today *in the context they were given to Israel.* In other words, we don't honor our parents "so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you" (Exod. 20:12). And we don't impose the death penalty on someone who breaks the seventh day Sabbath.The apostle Paul taught: "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ." (Col. 2:16-17) That said, the principles _behind_ the Ten Commandments still very much apply to Christians. In fact, 9 of the 10 Commandments are repeated and taught in the New Testament. (The Sabbath is not). The Bible teaches that we are not required to keep the seventh day Sabbath _as it was given_ in the Law of Moses. (We can if we want, of course...just not the death penalty part!) But I believe the principle behind the Sabbath is still to be kept: setting aside a regular time of rest to remember, thank, and worship God and be with family. Blessings, Rob

I have a better answer for you and for everyone. The 10 commandments were given as a covenant between God and Israel. They entered into a covenant relationship with God that day on Mt Sinai, consecrated with a blood sacrifice. They were set apart as a Kingdom and Priests to God (Exodus 19:6) (Exodus 24:9-11) Israel breaks the covenant with God over and over again. Thus the judgements (chastisement) of God comes. These chastisements come to bring us/them to repentance and return to our God. The law was but a shadow of the good things to come , Hebrews 10, sacrifice of bulls and goats never cleansed them of sin. Again, Hebrews 10:5-11. God begins to speak of a New Covenant, a better covenant, a higher covenant. Jeremiah 31:31. Also Isaiah 49:6, this promise of the coming Messiah who would bring the New Covenant is promised throughout the entire Old Testament. Not only for the house of Israel but also for the gentiles. Jesus came and testified and sacrificed himself for our sins. Matthew 3:16. He is our sabbath rest. He is inviting us into his New Covenant, sanctified in his blood. Evidence is given by his resurrection from the dead. He has ascended to right had of the Father and we are waiting for his triumphant return when he will judge the whole earth. We are invited to enter into the New Covenant in his blood. Come enter into his rest. For today is the day of salvation, Hebrews 3:6-15 ; Psalm 95:6-9. This is a long and deep study. We are invited by Jesus Christ, our Lord to enter into a New Covenant, a higher law, a spiritual law, the letter of the law brings death, the Spirit brings life. Ephesians 2:14-22. We are called to a higher standard of holiness. Matthew 5. We must be born again into a New Covenant. The Old has passed away. Don’t put the new wine into old wine skins. We are called to be a Kingdom and Priests to God. Revelations 5:9-11. Revelation 22:17 “The Spirit and the Bride say, ‘Come,’ And let the one who hears say, ‘Come,’ And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price. “ Come Lord Jesus, come. Maranatha!!

The 10 commandments are God's perfect moral law. This is the law by which He will Judge every man. In no way has this perfect law been done away with: I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved. So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. Matt.5.18,Matt.5.19NLT The error people make is they conflate the moral and mosaic laws, saying either all apply or none apply. The truth is, they are 2 different laws; one pointed to Christ, mosaic, and the other is the law that all men will ultimately be judged by, the moral. The moral law still stands. As we know, no one can keep the moral law perfectly, so no one can be saved by keeping the law. We are saved by putting our faith that Jesus kept the law perfect for us, and we can have his righteousness applied to us; we obey the moral law, 10 commandments, because we are saved, not to be saved. The first two scriptures below tell us where Moses put the 10 commandments (Moral law). The second scripture tells us where he put the cerimonial law. The last scripture tells us which one was nailed to the cross When the Ark is finished, place inside it the stone tablets inscribed with the terms of the covenant, which I will give to you. Exod.25.16NLT He took the stone tablets inscribed with the terms of the covenant and placed them inside the Ark. Then he attached the carrying poles to the Ark, and he set the Ark’s cover-the place of atonement-on top of it. Exod.40.20NLT This scripture tells where Moses put the Ceremonial law. It was put it next to the ark When Moses had finished writing this entire body of instruction in a book, he gave this command to the Levites who carried the Ark of the Lord’s Covenant: “Take this Book of Instruction and place it beside the Ark of the Covenant of the Lord your God, so it may remain there as a witness against the people of Israel. Deut.31.24,Deut.31.25,Deut.31.26NLT This least scripture is where Paul tells us which one was "nailed to the cross". It's the HANDWRITTEN ONE "that was against us". The one in the verse above that was "a witness against them" Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; Col.2.14&KJV The "handwritten ordinances" were "types and shadows" that ultimately pointed to Christ; we are no longer bound by them. The remnant saints will have faith in Jesus evidenced by their keeping of His moral, righteous commandments. They will have "faith accompanied by works". Their faith will not be dead. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev.14.12KJV

IN the ten commandments, it says thou shall not kill, but yet it shows that a man was stoned to death for picking up sticks on the Sabbath day

Jordan, I hope you’ll hook in to theBibleProject. As an ex Mormon Christian whose family has gone Torah, their podcasts have been extremely helpful to me. I also recommend Tim Mackie’s videos (for example his Matthew series) on you tube. He just teaches how the Bible is a “unified story that leads to Jesus” without trying to entangle with any particular cult or religion. I can’t recommend it more highly to you. Grace and peace!

@@spacebobs01 Thank you so much my sister! I'm so happy that you have found your way out of Mormonism as well. God bless!

I too am dealing with a Torahite. They have a lot of hatred, contempt and disdain for non-Torahite Christians. We do not love God because we do not love ALL of his laws. We are stubborn and rebellious. We are lawless. We are children of Satan because in rejecting Torah practice we are 'doing whatsoever thou wilt,' a Satanic motto. If we choose Sunday as our day of rest that is Rebellion. All that these people do is judge and condemn. They are evil minded with no love at all in them.

@@colingr318 yeah, it gets rough! I eventually was able to silence him by holding him to his own standard. I noticed that he had a trimmed beard which is against Levitical law. I noticed that he didn't wear the tasseled apron which is also against Levitical law. He had a Walmart shirt which is mixed linens. I really just reinforced that he was not keeping the old law and was therefore under its curse.

@@colingr318 I have had the exact same experience. It’s an elitist point of view that they seem to have, like they are His most special chosen people, top of the top, inmost circle of circles. Like it’s a competition. I can no longer reason with my family from scripture because they feel they have advanced beyond Christianity, therefore anything I think or say is beneath them. We’ve lost our relationship because of it

"till all be fulfilled"... "It is finished" - Jesus

I am from the U.K. and guess I would be counted as HRM albeit this is the first time I heard of this phrase. I believe all laws save for those ordinances relating to Temple worship and animal sacrifice still apply. We are not under the law insofar as we are not condemned by the law, given that we are saved by grace. But the opposite of the law is not grace. The opposite of the law is lawlessness

@@geordiewishart1683 Though I too believe that the older Testament laws are applicable to all believers, I am not involved with any HRM. I believe that even though obedience to the law plays NO part in salvation, they in no way ended or were changed by Yeshua or any writer of the newer Testament. We show our belief in and love for the Father and Son by our sincere desire and attempt to follow the will of God found through the law, as God blesses our efforts. Simply and biblically put, sin is lawlessness and in this condition no blessing can be found as no sin can ever be counted as righteousness and therefore no reward granted. Grace was not the nullification of the law it was the perfect fulfillment and example of it.

Where is the penalty for the law?

Why do you think the new testament does not address murder, adultery, homosexuality, etc? You should read the new testament and find out. Jesus made the standard even MORE restrictive. Torah: don't murder. Jesus: if you hate someone, you have committed murder. Torah: don't commit adultery. Jesus: If you even look at a woman with lust, you have committed adultery. Who decides the laws? JESUS does... he's the Messiah. You look to him!

Yes! Whew! Feels good to unite with others of the faith who are more grounded in the world than His Word..😅 ..safety in numbers

I'm so sorry that you're dealing with this, Leona. That divisive spirit is, to me, a telltale sign that God is not in the HRM movement. It's okay if someone doesn't want to celebrate Christmas for personal reasons. There is no Scriptural mandate that we do so. But, to make Christmas (or any other secondary issue) a matter of division within the body of Christ, especially among family, does not honor God. The HRM seems to have forgotten Paul's admonition to "Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight. Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all." (Rom 12:16-18)

@@TheBiblicalRoots thank you. And yes. Definitely not just not wishing to celebrate Christmas or Easter. It’s also not seeing any commonality in our spiritual fellowship. Except to try to draw us under Torah . Our Christian faith is definitely wrong and beneath the views of the HRM movement. It’s not a matter of “you can follow”, but it’s a matter of “you must follow” or you are disobedient to the Word. I have to admit at first I did not believe that there was any reason for following any of the Torah, but, I have softened my viewpoint, and come to see that it’s OK if you want to. I have extended that viewpoint to my family members, however this change has not been received. It is still held that you must follow. Having been raised in a traditional religion, and then been born again, I very much understand the ripping of the veil. There is no way I will can chose to come back under rules and regulations. Therein lies the division.

Mat10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

@@Eric-fq5wx Yeah I’ve heard that said too but I don’t see that he came to set husband against wife. That’s Satan‘s work.

Christmas is a pagan holiday. Do your own research.

Yes, it can be quite a tough conversation sometimes! The reason for those "talking past each other" moments is because of a difference in presuppositions and/or a difference in definitions. One thing I have found over the last few years as I've been really studying the Hebrew Roots Movement is that there is typically not one passage or verse you can cite that will "snap them out of it." At the end of the day, this is not really a theological problem. Christians who adopt a Torah-observant lifestyle seem to do so as an issue of identity or a misguided psychological/emotional commitment of some sort. And I very much believe there is a spiritual aspect to it, as well. With some people, you can almost see a spirit of legalism overtake them. If you haven't seen it yet, you might check out our video *Five tips for responding to Torah-keeping family and friends* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLh7lplm3pqyfIk.html Here are a couple other teachings from our channel that people have found helpful: *Which biblical laws apply to Christians?* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldOceMaAkquYnp8.html *Does Matthew 5:17-20 teach the Law is still in effect for Christians?* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j6dhZdWZ16qmgIk.html FYI, _The Pauline Paradox_ will give you a great insight into how the Hebrew Roots theology and mindset works. You'll notice how the unnamed author comes up with his own definitions, and he uses a faulty interpretation of Matthew 5:17-20 as a "proof text" against which he compares all other NT Scriptures. Blessings! Rob

@@RLSolberg Thank you, brother... I will check out these videos. And yes, I am in agreement with you. It's definitely a spiritual component to torahism. Oh yes. The Matthew 5:17 misunderstanding. It seems that every false doctrine I'm dealing with comes from an extremist view on a verse or a handful of verses. That then gets sweapingly applied over the rest of the Scripture. Blessings in Christ, Brother!

@@TheFaithOfAbraham My husband and I have sadly watched the same thing happen. The congregation my husband was an elder of split due to Kabala and denying of Jesus. My husband had warned the elders a year prior and they did nothing till it was too late.

@@TheFaithOfAbraham I honestly believe they never believed in the gospel to begin with even when they were in church and weren't of us who believe in Christ. The reason I say that is because of the fruit Ive seen and what Scripture says.

Hi Carissa! I get what your friend is saying because the idea that we are saved by grace through faith-that nothing is required of us and it's a free gift-is scandalous! It's a _very_ unfair exchange: unfair in our favor. And yet, it's true! That is why the Gospel is called the "Good News." And understanding that truth only serves to magnify and glorify the God who loved us enough to make salvation available in that way. You might see if your friend would be interested in doing a Bible study with you where you can work your way through Scripture, studying the many passages (in both the OT and NT) that teach about salvation and God's grace. -Rob

Repent and believe. Believe and repent. Two sides of the same coin. One cannot claim he is “saved” and live as he pleases. He is saved and is being saved as by faith as he submits to the Lordship of Messiah. Ultimately, sanctification leads to glorification.

Hi Carissa!!! This is the Gospel Message: Jesus Christ conquered sin and death and then He sent us the Holy Spirit, Hallelujah!!! So we have the Holy Spirit in us. We can walk by the Spirit and bear His fruit: love and joy and peace and patience and kindness and gentleness and faithfulness and goodness and self-control. People fail to realize that the Ten Commandments are written on the heart of every human by design. The Ten are simply summed up as loving God and loving your neighbor. When we walk by His Spirit, we are loving Him and our neighbor. The Torah Observant crowd is very confused. They confuse the Ten Commandments, written on Beautiful Sapphire Stone by the Finger of God Himself, with the 600 laws from the Law. The Law is written on paper by man via God, big difference. Carissa, works don’t save us, but when we are truly saved, we will work, love is a verb, an action. Grace is abused in today’s church big time, I agree. But the key is walking by the Spirit. Bear His Fruit. Hallelujah!!! Carissa I do have a vid called “Torah Observant???” on my chnnel. Just search Keith Elrod. Happy studying Carissa!!! Share this with your friend, “If you love Me then keep My Commandments” not if you love Me keep my Law. John 14 and 15 talk about this.

Hi, Tim! That can be so frustrating! I'm sorry you have to deal with this. Here's one of our videos that you might find helpful: *Five tips for responding to Torah-keeping family and friends* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLh7lplm3pqyfIk.html Best, RLS

@@TheBiblicalRoots Have you dealt with the "Hebraic Roots Bible" in any of your videos? I know this book is being used and my studies of it so far are disturbing...

That is a great perspective. Many in the Hebrew Roots movement do study Scripture quite a bit, which is admirable and something we should all be doing. Thanks for sharing! ~Rob

@@TheBiblicalRoots there are hostile Atheists who study the bible more than the average Christian. The Torahist illusion of massive amounts of "study" means some greater claim to truth fools many...

I listen to most of your video...you truly do not understand our father word..the simple fact is all those old laws are about our creator loving us and how we are to love him and others..please study more and stop teaching others to sin..please I beg of you..The sabbath and feast days are a memorial to father and his son...look it up..Matthew 15:24 and Heb 8:10 psa 119..but there r many other.1 john 3'4 .let the spirit teach you not man.and the word of God has nothing to do with being Hebrew root or a jew. with zac is party of both.but I agree with him in many things but not all, Where did God or his Son call his people christian or was that man Do you know?? www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=memorial&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1

Awesome that they study the Old Testament deeper than many, but they miss the point of differentiating between keeping the Ten Commandments and the actual Torah. The Ten Commandments, written by the Finger of God in Stone are summed up as loving God and loving your neighbor as Jesus taught us in Matthew 22. The Old Testament is Jesus Christ concealed and the New Testament is Jesus Christ revealed.

Please hear my heart because I’m genuinely asking. What of the fourth commandment then to remember God’s sabbath and to keep it holy? If I understand right, it was the Catholic Church that changed the day from Saturday to Sunday. Just wondering why I would follow the edict of a Catholic priest over what is written in the Ten Commandments? Jesus did keep the sabbath on the Saturday. Am I missing something? Please help because I am searching for the truth.

Hi Barbara. I'm sorry to hear about the trouble you're having with your sister. You might find this video helpful if you haven't seen it yet: *Five tips for a biblical response to our Torah-keeping friends and family* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLh7lplm3pqyfIk.html One thing I have found over the last few years as I've been really studying this movement is that there is typically not one passage or verse you can cite that will "snap them out of it." And at the end of the day, this is not really a theological problem. Christians like your sister who adopt a Torah-observant lifestyle (and are divisive about it) seem to do so in response to an issue of identity or a misguided emotional commitment of some sort. And I very much believe there is a spiritual aspect to it, as well. With some people, you can almost see a spirit of legalism overtake them. So my advice is to love your sister, pray for her, but hold your ground biblically. Don't let her guilt you about Christmas and Easter and Saturday Sabbath, and so on. Our salvation and our righteousness are complete in Jesus! There is nothing we can do to add a thing to the righteousness that is ours through faith in Him. Blessings, Rob

My prayers are with you that God will lead us all as He has instructed. God bless you. X

The moon is for feast days AS COL 2:16, THE SABBath is every 7th day from creation THE CATHOLICS try to throw it of with an eight day week, the works of satan. They failed....GOD is true to HIS WORD. PRAISE YAH ALWAYS!!

I hope it’s not too late, but ask this person where in their life are they struggling with the flesh. Read for yourself Colossians 2 & 3 and place emphasis on 2:23 and 3:5-11. I don’t know how close you are to this individual but if we confess our sins (of the flesh) to one another we shall be healed. Repentance of the heart (Colossians 3:1-17), not observance of the laws (especially matters of food) will set you free. And if the Son sets you free, you shall be free indeed (John 8:34).

Hi, Debra! Yes, I have heard the idea of a "renewed" covenant before, too. But that's not what Jesus called it. "This cup that is poured out for you is the new (kainos) covenant in my blood" (Luke 22:20, see also 1 Cor 11:25). _Kainos_ means "new," not "renewed." It's the same word Paul used when he refers to Christians as "ministers of a *new* covenant" (2 Cor 3:6). And the author of Hebrews uses that same word for "new covenant" in Heb 8:8, 8:13, and 9:15. And in Hebrews 12:24 the word is _neos_ which means "young, new" covenant. Shalom, Rob

Someone asked Jesus what was the most important commandment. Matthew 22:36 - Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Mat 22:37 - Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Mat 22:38 - This is the first and great commandment. Mat 22:39 - And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Mat 22:40 - On these two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets.

The Old Testament is Jesus Christ concealed and the New Testament is Jesus Christ revealed. Hallelujah!!!

@@SSmith-dn9ib Luke 24: 25-27 Then he said unto them, O slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

I have a NEW CAR, does this mean I REPLACED my old car, for the one that traded it yes. NEW does not mean replaced. I keep ALL my cars I HAVE THREE. so THE LAW OF THE LORD os eternal and THE LAW IS TRUTH. PS 119:142 from everlasting to everlasting. MY COVENANT i will not break NOR alter the words of MY LIPS

Thank you, Ishmael! I'm sorry that you have to deal with this issue. I find it helpful to remember that keeping those Mosaic traditions is not prohibited for Christians. It is not wrong to eat kosher or keep a Saturday Sabbath, etc. We are free in Christ to do so. However, those things are not _required_ of Christians. So don't let them make you feel guilty. And remember to always interact with them in love (Matt 5:44, John 13:35), with gentleness and respect (1 Pet 3:15). Apart from that, it is difficult to offer specific advice without knowing the people and what their motivations might be. Some folks I have spoken with have been willing to engage in a deep conversation about Scripture. Others just get mad and don't want to talk about it. What is difficult in your situation is that your friends seem to be under the authority of a pastor who is leading them into Torahism. So it might be difficult to get them to test or challenge their pastor's teaching. I have a lot of videos here that might be helpful. And if there is a particular topic of passage you would like some help with, please let me know! Blessings, Rob

@@TheBiblicalRoots Brother Rob, wow spot on!! As a retiree FDNY we follow critical orders or people die, and I can see what you said about, "them following and questioning their pastor" can mean for them. Yes I speak in love but I want him and his wife to see this is wrong, is in my DNA, "in love" . Rob Your knowledge and videos are dynamite. I pray Yeshua Jesus continue to bless you and keep putting this videos so well put together and full of word and wisdom. Blessings and Shalom.

Thanks, Mike! Yeah, it's tough to know exactly how to respond to loved ones who start following this thing. Here's one of my videos you might find helpful: *Five tips for a biblical response to our Torah-keeping friends and family.*: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLh7lplm3pqyfIk.html Blessings, Rob

Strange prayers, etx

I am in Hebrew roots, it is 100% healthy, don't worry about anything. There are so many mistakes in today's chuches. too much paganism. One of them is Sunday, another teething, strange prayers...

@@tatianalapaeva935 I listen to most of your video...you truly do not understand our father word..the simple fact is all those old laws are about our creator loving us and how we are to love him and others..please study more and stop teaching others to sin..please I beg of you..The sabbath and feast days are a memorial to father and his son...look it up..Matthew 15:24 and Heb 8:10 psa 119..but there r many other.1 john 3'4 .let the spirit teach you not man.and the word of God has nothing to do with being Hebrew root or a jew. with zac is party of both.but I agree with him in many things but not all, Where did God or his Son call his people christian or was that man Do you know?? www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=memorial&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1

I like to make the point of differentiating between keeping the Torah and keeping the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments are summed up as loving God and loving our neighbor. In John 14 and 15 we read, “If you love Me then keep My Commandments.” He doesn’t say if you love Me keep the Torah. The Ten Commandments are written on Stone by God Himself. The Torah was written on paper by man via God.

I listen to most of your video...you truly do not understand our father word..the simple fact is all those old laws are about our creator loving us and how we are to love him and others..please study more and stop teaching others to sin..please I beg of you..The sabbath and feast days are a memorial to father and his son...look it up..Matthew 15:24 and Heb 8:10 psa 119..but there r many other.1 john 3'4 .let the spirit teach you not man.and the word of God has nothing to do with being Hebrew root or a jew. with zac is party of both.but I agree with him in many things but not all, Where did God or his Son call his people christian or was that man Do you know?? www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=memorial&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1

This is the simplest answer to your question. Isaiah 56 “Keep justice, and do righteousness, For My salvation is about to come, And My righteousness to be revealed. 2 Blessed is the man who does this, And the son of man who lays hold on it; Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And keeps his hand from doing any evil.” 3 Do not let the son of the foreigner Who has joined himself to the Lord Speak, saying, “The Lord has utterly separated me from His people”; Nor let the eunuch say, “Here I am, a dry tree.” 4 For thus says the Lord: “To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, And choose what pleases Me, And hold fast My covenant, 5 Even to them I will give in My house And within My walls a place and a name Better than that of sons and daughters; I will give [a]them an everlasting name That shall not be cut off. 6 “Also the sons of the foreigner Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him, And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants- Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And holds fast My covenant- 7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain, And make them joyful in My house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices Will be accepted on My altar; For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.” 8 The Lord God, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, says, “Yet I will gather to him Others besides those who are gathered to him.”

Yes it is a matter of salvation. You cannot put new wine into old wineskins. Jesus was saying... You cannot mingle covenants. Hear what Paul says, "Dear brothers and sisters, the longing of my heart and my prayer to God is for the people of Israel to be saved. I know what enthusiasm they have for God, but it is misdirected zeal. For they don’t understand God’s way of making people right with himself. Refusing to accept God’s way, they cling to their own way of getting right with God by trying to keep the law. For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God." Romans 10:1‭-‬4 NLT bible.com/bible/116/rom.10.1-4.NLT

You need to ask him who Jesus is? Does he believe Jesus is God? If he doesn't then it is a salvation issue. Unitarians (only believing in the Father) are not saved as they deny the deity of Jesus. If Jesus is not God then the atonement didn't happen. It is vital that he believes Jesus is God in the flesh.

@@emmajane646 Do you understand what it means to be begotten?

Christianity is a religion of men whose architect was paul and his personal revelation (added to by rome), a personal revelation not unlike Muhammad for Islam or Joseph Smith for Mormonism.

By "traditions od men" you actually mean, commandments of God.

Christ spoke of "Traditions of men" in reference to the Talmudism/ traditions of the Pharisees and others, who would come up with additional rules to add to the Law handed down to Moses, and had been doing so for generations. They would also come up with "loopholes" invented by themselves to either escape observing the Law, or some that ultimately completely defeated the purpose of the Law (pointing Israel towards God, illustrating that being right with God is not within the power of mortal men by our own efforts, teaching love of our neighbors). And honestly, yes, this cult does very much resemble that. They take something simple and turn it into a convoluted mess by trying to add this or that to it, just as the rabbis (both before/during Christ's time on earth, and especially since). They simultaneously lead people completely away from the very core of the gospel, that Christ Jesus finished the work pointed to by the Law with His death, burial, and resurrection.

@@isaaclosh8082 so you're calling Jesus Christ a liar? Did He not say "Upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"?

@@isaaclosh8082 actually it's much more than that, especially when The Bible was inspired by God, unlike all of these false doctrines...Riddle me this...Why is it so-called "religious freedom" when it comes to these false religions, but Christianity gets mocked so much?

Thank you for sharing your story! That is heartbreaking to see the body of Christ divided because of these false teachings. Praise God that it's been restored! Blessings, Rob

Sorry for asking but what was the channel of that Pastor? Could it be that your pastor was Pastor Joe Fox from Shofar Mountain?

@fromtheheartnerd4569 9 months ago (edited) Went through this over a decade ago when our church was upheaved because the Pastor (with no prior Biblical training) was listening to a few Hebrew Roots websites/KZfaqs and one day started running down the road with this and dragged an entire congregation of both new and mature Christians along with him who stumbled along trying to pick up the pieces. It divided and destroyed the church for a season. But, God restored a remnant and the church has healed now from the damage done and is thriving. Unfortunately, that pastor now has his own KZfaq channel and is teaching a Hebraic roots/ Hebrew Israelite combined doctrine now. Honestly, right before this happened, the church was growing, maturing and growing strong in unity and the presence of the Holy Spirit. Glad to see it restored now. So thankful for your time and effort to put this out there!! *And why would the Holy Spirit restore them to a place of lawless anarchy against God? If you come out from under God’s law, that is lawless anarchy by definition. The Spirit of God would not lead us out from under a law the Spirit of God helped to put into place. This is why God himself warns that those who speak against the law and testimony in Isaiah 8:20 have no light in them. It is also why God warns that the condition of a heart like an adamant stone in Zechariah 7 is those who refuse to hear his law and the words he sent by his Spirit through his prophets. This is the same stony heart God says he is trying to remove from his people in Ezekiel 11 and 36. Returning to rejecting his law is not healing their stony heart, it is cementing it into place. This is what happens when churches follow Paul out from under the law in Romans 6:14. They don’t even mind that Paul warns them that he has a “messenger of Satan” in 2Corrinthians 12:7: one chapter after telling them to not marvel over the fact that Satan’s ministers are transformed into ministers of righteousness. So, your church there is following a Spirit, but I don’t think it's the Holy Spirit if they have rejected God’s law. God in Isaiah 30 tells Isaiah to write a book about that problem, arguing that it leads to people eventually wanting the Most High to cease from before them, but what does God know. Humans are so much smarter, right?

There is a couple in HRM that has the KZfaq page, Kingdom in Context, Sean Griffin, I don’t recommend their page but one night my husband was making me watch their q/a and they addressed Christmas and flat out told all of HRM they were wrong about Christmas and said they needed to stop sinning against other believers for telling them they are headed to hell for celebrating it…that it is NOT pagan…it was the only time I fully agreed with anything they had to say…I will get the episode for you to share with her and the time stamp if you would like?

Lord bless you, and may He open your father's eyes and heart.

IF THE LAW of the LORD IS A CURSE, then you and PAUL make our GOD ALMIGHTY is a liar when he said THE LAW should be kept as the apple of OUR EYE or that the LAW IS TRUTH. ps 119:142....THE PAUL who never saw Christ is GREATER than the psalmist?? Why did PAUL not write the revelation But JOHN? JOHN writes “Whosoever abideth in him sinneth NOT: whosoever sinneth hath NOT SEEN him, NEITHER KNOW him.” - 1 John 3:6 (KJV) “Little children, let NO MAN deceive you: he that DOES righteousness IS righteous, EVEN AS Christ is righteous.” - 1 John 3:7

We stand with you in Christ! :)

He is a father to the fatherless!

And Galatians 3:13,14

I'm glad you found us, Peter! You can contact me here: rlsolberg.com/contact/ BTW, if you haven't seen it yet, here's another video of ours that you might find helpful: *Five tips for responding to Torah-keeping family and friends* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLh7lplm3pqyfIk.html Blessings, Rob

Your brother speaks truth. Don't be blinded by pride. Isaiah 56 “Keep justice, and do righteousness, For My salvation is about to come, And My righteousness to be revealed. 2 Blessed is the man who does this, And the son of man who lays hold on it; Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And keeps his hand from doing any evil.” 3 Do not let the son of the foreigner Who has joined himself to the Lord Speak, saying, “The Lord has utterly separated me from His people”; Nor let the eunuch say, “Here I am, a dry tree.” 4 For thus says the Lord: “To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, And choose what pleases Me, And hold fast My covenant, 5 Even to them I will give in My house And within My walls a place and a name Better than that of sons and daughters; I will give [a]them an everlasting name That shall not be cut off. 6 “Also the sons of the foreigner Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him, And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants- Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And holds fast My covenant- 7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain, And make them joyful in My house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices Will be accepted on My altar; For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.” 8 The Lord God, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, says, “Yet I will gather to him Others besides those who are gathered to him.”

Thank you, E4T!

It couldn’t be that many false prophets are in the mainstream.

Well, if that's why you would obey God instead obeying Him in faith-- then yeah, that is the wrong reason, for sure.

@@krissysedlak7490 Right.

My Bible says work are required! James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. But remember works will never save a person, but as a result of our salvation we should do works. Even our Judgment depends on works. Revelation 20:12-13 …..and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, ACCORDING TO THEIR WORKS. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were JUDGED EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO THEIR WORKS. Keep studying my friends.

I'm so glad you've found these videos helpful, Steffon. Thank you! Blessings, Rob

The problem is that they try to be 'saved in the Flesh by the Flesh' no matter, if they deny that in the next passage. They are deceived and will keep deceiving. I'm sorry for your friend there.

I felt a wrenching sadness when reading the positive comments. Know this: No one that denies The Torah, is dismissive of His Commandments or practices the rampant paganism we see in the churches, will be cast out! Scripture clearly tells us we must become Spiritually Israel

@@VikTorahYAH It says to die with Christ and then be born with Christ to be part of 'God's people'. That's something diffrent from physical ancestry, ethnic or racial background. Well, i guess one needs to be from Adam and Eve though.

Thanks for sharing that, Jason. I pray that Kristen finds healing and rest in the true knowledge of her savior Jesus! If it helps, I've written an article called "Is the Law of Moses Eternal?" rlsolberg.com/is-the-law-of-moses-eternal/

Hey Jason. Pastor Steve Gregg from 'The Narrow Path' YT channel has a series on the fallacies of this movement. I found them very helpful. Particularly interesting is a look into the Hebrew word 'olam', which is the word most commonly used for 'forever' in the old testament. He explains how this word rarely means 'forever' and usually means ' for the foreseeable future'. I would suggest seeking out his videos on this movement

Chukat Olam eternal decree

@@ShaulTzuar it is used over 430 times in scripture. If you trace all the uses, it's apparent that the word has a broader definition than 'eternal decree'

Show her Leviticus 15.20.

Welcome, Sylvia! I am so glad you found us. Blessings, Rob

Thanks, ClownZ! I am not familiar with Michael Pearl or his video. Is it worth a watch? RLS

@@TheBiblicalRoots I personally think it is. God bless.

@@TheBiblicalRoots Brother since you have made it your mission to both warn of the torahism cult as well as helping people trapped therein, I felt it necessary to share some insight I just had. We Christians love to bring forth scripture when dealing with cults. Great of course, but perhaps we miss the more obvious mistake the hebrew rooters are making. They, as us, believe in a perfect God who loves truth, despises deception and does not lie to us, don't they? Well if we follow the logic of the Torah observers, that Christians should keep the law and Paul perhaps was even a false teacher: It could only mean 1 of 3 things if we think it through: 1. God was powerless to stop the lie becoming superior to the true teaching. 2. God did not care that falsehood spread into all the world and became the biggest religion the earth has ever seen. 3. God actually supported falsehood. Think about it. Hebrew Rooters say God is all powerful and yet they believe a false Message and a false or corrupted bible were made victorious. Of.course this makes no sense. I believe confronting them with the obvious conclusion of their belief will shake them since it directly contradicts the person of God they too believe in. God.bless

@@clownz8129 That's a very interesting point!

"For though I am free from all, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win more of them. To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though not being myself under the law) that I might win those under the law. To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but under the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law. To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some. I do it all for the sake of the gospel, that I may share with them in its blessings." (1 Cor 9:19-23)

💯 Romans 3:31"Do we, then, nullify the Law through faith? Never may it be! Instead, we uphold Law."

@@TheBiblicalRoots not being outside the law of god

James was acting dishonestly through this. He was trying to put on a show for the Jews with Paul by having Paul go through the purification process of the Old Testament. He (James) was trying to convince the Jews that Paul was not teaching that people should not be circumcised (Acts 21:21) when he indeed was teaching that. This was an error on James and Paul's part in Acts and is in no ways proof to keep the Mosiac law.

​@@TheStockCarStig So Jesus commanded the disciples to stop obeying the Mosaic Law?

Hi Hannah. The weekly Sabbath that God commanded of Israel was not created at the beginning of time. God created the universe in six days and on the seventh day He rested. But it was not a Sabbath like He gave to mankind. It was God resting from his creation. He did not go back to work creating on the 8th day. His work was completed. His seventh day never ended. Instead he rested with his people, Adam and Eve in the garden. That was his ideal. But we sinned and got kicked out of God’s rest. And God put a plan of redemption in place to one day return humanity to His rest. That is what we will find in the new heaven and new earth at the end of time. When Israel was at Sinai, God gave them the weekly Shabbat to remind them that He is the creator of all things, and that His people can rest in him and trust Him for their provision. It was a gift, a beautiful foretaste of the true rest we would one day be given. That rest has now been given to us in a new way in Christ. “So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from his works as God did from his.” -Hebrews‬ ‭4:9-10‬. “Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.” -Matthew‬ ‭11:28‬. Blessings, Rob

@@TheBiblicalRoots your post read “The weekly Sabbath that God commanded of Israel was not created at the beginning of time” Can you define what you mean by created?

@@yisraelavraham4078 When I say the weekly Shabbat was "created," I am referring to the fact that Yahweh created/made/established regulations regarding resting on the seventh day: remember it, do no work, kindle no fires, etc. And those regulations include a penalty: "Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death (Ex 31:15)." The weekly Shabbat was tied to Creation and the exodus from Egypt. But it was not given until after Israel had left Egypt. If any Sabbath expectations or regulations predate that time period, they are not recorded in Scripture. Thus the weekly Shabbat was "created" by Yahweh for Israel. As Yeshua said, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" (Mark 2:27). Shalom, Rob

@@TheBiblicalRoots I believe the Israelites kept the Sabbath even before . When they were in the wilderness manna was given to them for six days and not on the seventh and this was before Moses was given the ten commandments. Don't also forget that, that commandment is the only one that begins with 'remember' and there is no other. Furthermore you agree with all other commandments apart from this one because I'm pretty sure you don't have other gods that you worship. Let me tell you what makes me feel so strongly about the 10 commandments it's because God took time to write them Himself and I also believe it is a moral obligation to humankind that even a servant gets time to rest and worship their maker just as we are morally obligated to not kill.

​@@hannahkuria3699 That is very true, Hannah. Exodus 16 shows us that the Sabbath rhythm was given to Israel even before they reached Mount Sinai. And I agree with you that the 10 Commandments are a very big deal because they were given directly by Yahweh. However, I disagree that the weekly Sabbath regulations were "a moral obligation to humankind" because they were not given to humankind. They were only given to Israel. Gentiles have never been expected to keep Shabbat, and they have never been punished for not keeping Shabbat. Blessings, Rob

Sabbath is Saturday. Celebration of the resurrection of Christ is Sunday. Of course we celebrate every day, but its a remembrance day.

@@heididecker707 the sabbath God made it to be the holiest day of the week and Sunday to be the first day of the week

@@motivationjourneys Your statement was that you didn't understand it. I explained it to you. Its your choice to refuse instruction.

@@heididecker707 is that gods instruction or man’s instruction? Who are you going to follow god or man?

@@motivationjourneys Its God's instruction. Read the bible and get your instruction from God. Stop following the deceptive instruction of man... especially that coming from the heresy of hebrew roots. They are a cult. They are leading you away from the true Messiah.

My humble suggestion is....focus on grace first so that u can understand obedience more. Shalom

@@judemichaelvelez6789 Yes, are you telling me to do that or just saying it in general? ...... Shalom

The Bible says Abraham was righteous in UNcircumcision. Read the book of Romans

@@emmajane646 Exactly, you're righteous by faith in the OLD testament, just like the new... Abraham wasn't saved by works, nobody is saying that now either

Thank you, HNF! Blessings, Rob

Hi Kara! I don't know your fiance, and I am certainly not a marriage counsellor. I can just say that I regularly get messages from people (mostly women) who are in marriages that are under a great deal of stress because one spouse has become Torah observant. Every person is different, of course, but let me share a short excerpt from a long email I received a few weeks ago from a woman named Lizzie: "I met a man, who I began dating, that claimed to be Torah observant and part of the Hebrew Roots Movement. I did not know what that was or what it meant at the time. Long story short, he turned out to be very emotionally, psychologically, and mentally abusive. While he was knowledgeable of scripture, this knowledge was used as a tool of personal pride and self-exaltation. This is common in the Torah observant community as a whole. They act as if their beliefs have catapulted them to a more elite level of Christianity, and therefore look down on believers who disagree with their view of scripture. I often felt this way in my relationship and all throughout my marriage. Scripture was used as a weapon to make me feel inferior to my husband. I was never “allowed” to disagree with the Torah observant viewpoint he held . . . It wasn't long before my now ex-husband's Torah observance became deeper and more radical. He began using only the Hebrew names for Jesus and the Father, Yahshua and Yahuah, saying that any other names are pagan. He began to preach to me that Jesus is not God but a created being, meaning the trinity was a pagan deception. He began to believe that we were not in the new covenant, but still in the old covenant. Lastly, he went down the path of denying that Paul is a true apostle and denying his writings in the New Testament." Best, Rob

Kara, in my marriage, we started equally yoked, both Christian, in 2017, my husband found HRM…since then, I have been told I am unbiblical wife and going to hell for not following my husband’s beliefs and “her head”…and he will not let up the pressure to change my beliefs…be prayerful and listen intently to the Holy Spirit for direction…if He says go, listen!

@@OneSparrow-76 Thank you so much for sharing this testimony. I did not marry this man that I was speaking about. I did not feel it was the Lord's will.

@@karadejesus1690Praise God! As a domestic violence survivor (including spiritual, spousal abuse), I am so glad you did not marry him as you were already questioning. When you question the relationship, make space between you and the other, take time to seek God and get wise counsel, then come back together (or not).

Thank you for your reply😊

Only one person has ever kept the Torah, and they crucified Him. How much of the modern Church understands the relationship between the New Covenant and the Old Covenant? We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. The battle between these two covenants began in Acts chapter 15 and continues to the present. During most of that time period the Judaisers have won the day. New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) Watch the KZfaq videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

Thanks, Tom. I appreciate your comments. I agree with you that Torahism is not a monolithic belief system. (I was pretty clear about that starting around 2:03.) But I'd love to know what "outliers" you are referring to. Also, FYI, I don't define Gentiles as "anyone who believes the Messiah and follows Torah." Gentiles are simply non-Jews. And every single Torahist I've ever met, talked to, read, or engaged with is a Gentile. And Gentiles were not part of the Sinai Covenant and have never been expected to keep Torah. Blessings, Rob

@@TheBiblicalRoots Thanks for your response. I didn't mean to imply you define Gentiles as "anyone who believes the Messiah and follow Torah". I was a statement. If you believe in Messiah and keep Torah, you are not a Gentile. You have become part of Israel. There is no such thing as a Messianic Gentile. You are either Israel or the world (Gentile). The mixed multitude that came out of Israel became part of Israel. Caleb for example. Ruth is another. And you are right, Gentiles have no part in the Sinai Covenant and are not expected to keep Torah. When you join yourself to Israel to follow the Messiah and imitate Him you are then expected to observe Torah. Have a blessed day,

@@tomcantrell8741 Thanks, Tom. What do you mean by "Israel?" Are you referring to the political nation? Or is that a term you are using to refer to the People of God, like Galatians 6:16? Or something else?

@@TheBiblicalRoots Definitely not the political nation. I am referring to God's chosen people. Yes like Gal 6:16 "Israel of God". Or Jeremiah 31.

Okay, got it. Thanks! And when you say we should "observe Torah," what does that look like? Are we to maintain a Levitical priesthood that will perform animal sacrifices for atonement and thanksgiving and such? Are Christian males to be circumcised on the 8th day? Are we supposed to pilgrimage to Jerusalem three times every year? Rob

Hello, Smokie! Here's my position on those two holidays: *Should Christians celebrate Easter? A level-headed biblical examination* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbmVZthitdjZdYE.html *Why it's okay for Christians to celebrate the birth of Jesus.* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndiZY9R4rbLLmGg.html Blessings, Rob