Exactly they should have waited

That probably would’ve been the biggest budget in a movie ever

they could always do civil war 2

@@ISAACRICH true

@@ProdLucio they didn’t really know, they also couldn’t exactly do that.

Hawkeye and Black Widow could still be in the movie, but only as shield agents. The actual avengers should be/have been Iron man, Thor, Hulk, Antman and Wasp (hank pym and Janet)

I think cap would still be in it, he'd be thawed out in the opening.

avengers witbout the first avenger?

@@joejennings5112 Cap isn't the first Avenger lol he's the 6th. Hank Pym was the first Avenger.

@@mr.iiconic his nickname is the first avenger??

I still think rami films take place in the xmen universe

He was busy delivering pizza

I remember as a kid I'd never wait until the post-credits scene, so I didn't even know the MCU existed (this was before even the first Avengers movie), and when I learned about it, I started searching over all of the Marvel movies to see which ones I had missed.

maguire spidey taking place with the same universe as bana hulk would make more sense, tbh

@@RPython2004 yeah

Actually Good. 😂😂

There wouldn't be a DCEU. WB solely relys on Batman. If they didn't have him they wouldn't be making movies. Superman was left in limbo. The first ever reboot they did with Henry Cavill they left in limbo instead of giving a proper sequel

@@amon__7187 I'm thinking more if like DC actually knew how to make a cinematic universe, like "what if DC made a good cinematic universe without Batman and Superman", what would that look like

The amazing amazon Aquaman V wonder woman suicide squad green lantern justice league（shazam and green arrow will replace superman and batman)

@@user-jh8he7be6s Not necessarily the same structure of the DCEU, like I said on another comment, make as if they did a functional, structured cinematic universe, more like what marvel did. But your option looks really valid

Yes! I second this.

100%. Could you imagine a show with the thoughtfulness and energy of Arrow S1-3 but for Batman. And him standing next to Tyler’s Superman and Grant’s Flash would be insane. Like, a full Justice League roster would’ve made the shows way more popular than the DCEU

@@jonathanprimus9357 true

Yeah

Don’t talk about dc bruh that shit show omg Just joking lmao don’t take seriously

There's billions of people on this planet millions of Marvel fans, if they can shoot out all these movies at least do it correctly. Just need more and competent writers.

Hello, Bud thank you but I'd prefer to say they would have made a franchise for the avengers separately. Spend most of time passing your English/science courses etc and you carry large jansport backpack using art.

introduce the fantastic four instead of captain marvel and put them in endgame. Introduce the x-men in the start of the phase four instead of the eternals. spider-man was placed right. put deadpool some time after the x-men movie. put ghost rider, elektra, punisher, daredevil and the defenders during phase 2 and 3, with shows. and that's pretty much all, you can continue with the original order of movies.

I agree with this, as I was watching this video I was thinking that this alternate MCU just wouldn't work as well following a similar structure as the actual MCU. It's fun to imagine what if we had Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four or the X-Men right from the very beginning, but the MCU works in a very specific way with the characters they had and it's very hard to make it work differently

U said 23 movies , 7 times 😂

It would not have Howard the duck lmao

@@tarzan5932 The MCU has Howard the Duck in it right now.......he was even in Endgame.

@@maylabrown4584 well yeah, I phrased that poorly. I meant like Howard the duck wouldn’t be important at all when they have like Spider-Man and the x men

@@tarzan5932 obviously

Wait till hitmonkey makes an appearance.

That's probably how it would go, they would be more accurate to the comics since they would have all the characters.

I like every-thing a-bout this re-work ex-cept... nah jk lol it’s actually good, I think Civil War being a leadup to “something bigger to unite the sides” (Infinity War in the case of the MCU) was definitely smart but the structure is mostly there so it would still work perfectly👌 The only obstacle would be getting the actors to stick around for even _more_ projects. 👀

Yup, I also think Iron Man, Thor and Cap, maybe even Ant-Man, would've had their own movies prior to an Avengers team up. It would have been similar to what they made in the comics

While I like this take on introducing characters, I also agree that Marvel or DC should adapt their comics into anthology tv series 'cause each episode could function like a movie and it would tell stories in a single without having to worry about runtimes ps. We could get all the stories we wanted to see in a single season and later wait for the other to come out.

Marvel is trying to do this with their special presentations

So it is better that we got what we got

​@@doomd1816way better

Someone already done that and it's a current sieres on yt. It's really good I recommend it, it's called "what if marvel and dc shared a cinimatic universe"

Nice idea. But in which world is Ben Affleck's Daredevil more popular than Charlie Cox's?

And then it could crossover before being reboted with the andrew garfields spider and the 2015 fantastic four film i would also like and spideman and human torch film or show hope you read this

You forgot Blade (1998).

@@juregobviooogroverde9107 the Blade trilogy Is Canon in this MCU 2000-2022, but the movies aren't in the line up of the MCU because the First movie of this franchise was X-Men in 2000, so those movies are Canon, but those movies aren't in the line up of the phase 1 of this MCU

Like crisis?

its pretty cool

Someone already had that idea

That would be awesome

@@ccl7983 nope like amalgam comcis

Yellow and brown when he’s solo and yellow and blue when he joins the X-men

@@TreFKennedy you get it

It did? Because Tobey didnt mention the fantastic 4 in nwh. Wouldve been a cool nod too and the setup for Mr. Fantastic in MoM.

@@FrostDzNz yeah I use to think well maybe he just happened to have never cross paths with them all those years.

Raimi sm and 2005 f4 do seem like could share a world.

@@FrostDzNz Why would've he? Tom mentions Avengers, not Fantastic Four, which doesn't even exist yet in the MCU so it would be impossible to know.

@@FrostDzNz yeh p.us wolverine was acthuly ging to be in the first spider mdn but fox and Sony couldn't arach nd agreement

Deadpool is not any Spidey-Love for the dude. And he should definitely conncect with the avengers side.

I agree, you actively said several times that you were limited by the fact that you were limiting yourself to the structure of the MCU as we know it with different films replacing the one we know, step away from that and come up with your own version.

Say what you want about Andrew’s movies but imagine his Spider-Man (portrayal) in the MCU... 👀 Just picture him in Civil War swinging alongside Iron Man and War Machine like “YAAHOOO”

Fox was supposed to buy the X-franchise to avoid bankruptcy. Do Spider-Man before Ant-Man Next is the young avengers etc.

Yeah the MCU was inspired by the previous marvel movies before it and Fiege decided “you know what? Let’s make it like the comics and have all of them in a shared universe”

A-Force??? Ew

Midnight Sons, not Suns. That's from the shitty game.

@@mr.iiconic Facts

@@mr.iiconic Just fixed it

@@Jarvision814 thanks. Have a great one bro

Thank you. Cap is my fav fiction superhero but he never was a b-list character! Just b/c of the failed 1990 movies ppl want to lump him in with others.

@@hendrix7948 I just get really tired of people saying that Cap was a b-list superhero just because he's more popular thanks to the MCU.

@@poogoceoofrandom1295 he’s been around too long for ppl to not know who he is. Fiege & the Russo bros have done cap right and I’m so glad he’s finally gotten the shine he deserves. Also another good cap rendition is the avengers cartoon series both EMH and avengers assemble

@@hendrix7948 Cap was actually one of the few good characters in Avengers Assemble

@@poogoceoofrandom1295 to me he’s the only good one in avengers assemble. Super adaptoid episode S1 E6 cap is at one of his many finest hrs on that show.

It’s kind of what Arrowverse is

Better late than never I guess

What other giant monster could they have included: the Kraken?

Me neither, honestly. I love how the MCU has been built and how they carefully introduced and developed their characters. This hypothetical one just doesn't feel right

It makes sense honestly, Wolverine’s always the last man standing even if just by chance, and he was the last of the X-Men fighting in Infinity Gauntlet (except maaaybe Cyclops) My guess is the Fantastic Four would’ve been dusted too, kinda for the same reason

Yeah but wait until Phase 4 is complete to make that viseo

@@wehttamnagilluc1329 Well Said, Well Said 😎

From what I have heard phase 4 of today’s MCU is ending sooner rather than later. But don’t quote me on that !

Would like to have seen a proper introduction of the Inhumans via a good Fantastic Four movie.

Phase Two-Expansion Wolverine: Weapon X Villains-Sabretooth, Maverick, Abraham Cornelius Wolverine is being hunted by a team made by Abraham, who are linked to his past. Throughout the film, we learn of the weapon X programme, and the final battle is: Sabretooth Vs Maverick and Logan. Post Credits Scene shows Prof X. Black Panther Villains-Killmonger, Klaw, N’Jobu Same movie pretty much, debating on killing Klaw though. Fantastic Four: Inhuman Villains: Dr Doom, The Inhumans Dr Doom is trapped in the Negative Zone and the F4 discover the Inhumans, who start as villains. Franklin (who was in the first movie) discovers his ability, while Valeria builds H.E.R.B.I.E. Doom gets freed from the Negative Zone and gets juiced up with Terragin mist, and takes on the Inhumans and F4. Ends with him retreating to Latveria. Nova Villain-The Sphinx Essentially Super Frame’s video, except Xandar isn’t destroyed, merely attacked by The Sphinx. X-Men: Giant Sized Villains-Mr Sinister, Arc Angel, Arc Light, Blockbuster, Omega Red, Vertigo Once again, Super Frame’s video but Sabretooth is replaced by Omega Red, and Iceman isn’t in the movie, replaced by Sunfire. The Spectacular Spider-Man 3 Villains-Kraven, Vermin, Chameleon, Vermin (Wow I’m not very original am I?) Pretty much Troyoboyo’s Spider-Man 4 pitch, except it ends with Peter removing the Symbiote. The Invincible Iron Man II Villains-Titanium Man, Vaults Guardsmen, Hammer, Obadiah Stane Similar to actual movie, but Iron Man never goes through his “depression” and it’s Titanium man instead of Whiplash. Obadiah Stane is also exposed for the fraud that he is in this film. Captain Marvel 2 Villain-Genis-Vell Carol Struggles with taking the mantel of Captain Marvel, and essentially takes in Photon as her protege. Genis-Vell believes that the mantel should be his (plot very similar to tfatws). After he is defeated, Carol embraces the role of Captain Marvel, although the Kree (who sent Genis-Vell) plot to get rid of her. Namor The Sub-Mariner Villain-Tiger Shark Starts with scene in WW2 of Namor working with the Howling Commandos, until he is caught in an explosion. We then meet Walter Newell who teams up with an amnesiac (Namor), who he sees commit a dangerous sea rescue, and a pirate on a sea expedition. However, they realise the pirate has ulterior movies, and it becomes a race to find the treasure. Newell also becomes Stingray. Eventually, Namor realises who he really is and defeats Tiger Shark (the pirate). Captain America: Red Star Villains-Winter Soldier, Arnim Zola, Crossbones Same plot with 3 key differences. This is Black Widow’s redemption movie, as she recognises Bucky from the Red Room and wants to help. Fury never fakes his death. Arnim Zola’s exposition dump is removed, the audience learns of Hydra along with the characters, throughout the film. Ant-Man and The Wasp Villains-High Evolutionary, Wonder Man, Grim Reaper Hank Pym and Janet Van-Dyne are attacked by Wonder man and Grim Reaper leading them to investigate, tracing it back to High Evolutionary. Wonder Man is only doing this as he was blackmailed because of his father’s dying company. Wonder Man becomes good, High Evolutionary is destroyed and Grim Reaper escapes. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are referenced to as High Evolutionary’s creations (in X-Men Uncanny, the post credits scene has Magneto taking to AIM about fixing his “powerless” children). The Avengers: West Coast Villains-A.I.M, M.O.D.O.K, Grim Reaper, Radioactive Man This follows a new Avengers team consisting of: Hawkeye, Captain America, War Machine, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Hercules, Tigra, Mockingbird, Moon Knight, Black Widow, Swordsman, (potentially Machine Man but not needed cause of how many people there are). This team is put together by Raymond Sikorsky to take down A.I.M but Henry is actually a double agent working alongside Swordsman for A.I.M. Black Widow learns of Swordsman being a traitor, but he blackmails her, saying that who will believe the traitor and saying he will expose what she did for A.I.M in the past if she talks. Final battle has them taking down Radioactive Man and Grim Reaper.

Phase three X-Men: The Phoenix Villains-Dark Phoenix, Gladiator, Shi’ar Empire Not going to go too much into this one as it’s gonna essentially be the comic story we are all familiar with, except the Star Jammers will die. Vulcan is in this movie and in a post credits scene, takes control on the Sh’iar. Black Knight Villains-The Serpent, Kingdom Of The Serpent Dane Whitman takes over a fortune from an uncle he didn’t know he had, hooks up with Victoria Bently, yada, yada, finds Ebony blade and becomes Black Knight. Because reasons, Dane and Victoria end up in "the World of the Wyrd" where the Kingdom of the Serpent rules over their neighbors like despots. The only one who could hope to challenge them is New Avalon but they need the Black Knight to marshal their forces. They defeat the Serpent and Dane manages to make life easier for the people, despite the mantel of the Black Knight urging him to rule by fear. The Mighty Thor II: Ragnarok Villains-Surtur, Enchantress, Executioner, Those who sit above Not much like the movie, more like the comic, except Surtur is a much more intimidating villain and Loki, Thor and Odin team up to defeat him in the final fight. Odin dies, Thor loses his hammer but the day is saved. Post Credits Scene shows Surtur had constructed another hammer and it sparks. Dr Strange Villain-Dweller-In-Darkness, D’Spayre, D’Sprytes, Sprite We begin with a scene with Agamotto, a previous sorcerer supreme fighting Dweller, as Dweller intends of releasing the D’Sprytes into the world. He defeats Dweller and sees a baby in a cradle with a strange mark. The movie then plays out similar to the actual one except Dormammu is replaced with Dweller, Kaecilius is D’Spayre and Baron Mordo has already left the sanctum at the start, and rejoins to help with the new threat. Brother Voodoo is also a character that Strange and Wong approach for help. Later on, it is revealed that the baby at the start was the Ancient One and she is controlled by Dweller, causing Mordo to kill her. Eventually, Dweller is killed by Strange, but not before teasing Nightmare. The Spectacular Spider-Man 4 Imma be honest I don’t actually know for this one. I want it to have Venom cause of my Spider-Man 5 plan but I don’t really have an idea for the plot right now. The Hulk 2: Gamma Villains-Abomination, The Leader, General Ross Banner is happy after being excused for his crimes, but ends up doing something that puts him back on the run, with Betty. Ross gets the help of Samuel Sterns, who is now Leader, who creates something that can get rid of the Hulk, temporarily. Bruce and Betty get the help of Dr. Samson, who is the new boyfriend of her, he discovers through hypnosis another side of Hulk. Leader creates Abomination who hunts and injects Hulk with a temporary cure that depowers him. Before he is killed however, he transforms into a grey Hulk and gets the upper hand. We later learn that this Hulk is another personality of Banner’s called Joe Fixit. Sampson tries to talk to Joe and finds out that this personality came from the neglect Bruce faced from his father. Sampson starts prodding too deep and Joe gets angry, nearly killing him. After this, Abomination is made even stronger and eventually captures Banner, due to Joe Fixit not being all that strong. Leader infects Betty Ross with gamma radiation with General Ross believing that Betty Ross got infected because of her being with Banner. Leader then betrays Ross and reveals that he intends to create an army of Gamma soldiers from Ross’ volunteers. He creates the cure for the Hulk that could remove the gamma radiation from his body, but Ross stops him and Sterns and his Hulk soldiers attack a nearby city. Bruce Banner has the cure, but he realizes only the Hulk can stop him and only this cure can save Betty. So he gives the cure to Betty to remove her gamma infection. The final battle is Hulk vs Abomination, Leader, and a small squad of gamma soldiers, which Hulk wins after a scene with Banner, Joe and Hulk all in their mind talking and becoming at one. Becoming Hulk. (Forgot to mention but Rick Jones is also in this movie and is the reason why Joe doesn’t kill Sampson). The Avengers: Age Of Ultron Villains-Ultron, A.I.M, M.O.D.O.K, Sentinels A.I.M creates Ultron with the files stolen by Widow in Avengers one, and the Avengers gotta stop him. Follows a similar plot to Ultron Unlimited up until the 2nd act but the third act shows 6 months into the Future, with the Avengers sending Vision back in time (mainly Mr Fantastic) to stop Ultron. End of this movie has the Avengers joining with F4. Ant-Man and The Wasp 2: More Ant-Man (definitely workshopping the title) Villains-Ghost, Darren Cross, Egghead Similar to the actual sequel except Hank Pym takes in Scott as his protege after the Ultron incident. Goliath’s role is replaced by Darren Cross and Egghead.

theoretically-speaking, Marvel Transformers Star Wars GI-Joe and MLP are all in the same universe.

@@fduranthesee how?

@@axelnilsson5124 Same toy manufacturer, Hasbro, it would seem.

wait they cancelled legends???

Is this true?

Oh no, I can't believe it

Yeah they cancelled legends which sucks cause I really couldn’t wait to see booster gold on the show after his appearance in the season 7 finale

Fuck Discovery.

I’m sorry, is his name really “Blackagar Boltagon”

Would like to see them in a Fantastic Four movie. Probably have them be in the 3rd one.

To be fair, that was Amazing Spiderman 2

I agree with you in 100%.