Toyota vs Honda Hybrid Cars. Which one is Better? Ultimate Battle of Reliability and Refinement

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A Mechanic and Hybrid Specialist Compares Toyota VS Honda. So Which one of the two makes a better overall hybrid system?
In this video we do a full comparison between Toyota's hybrid system and Honda's hybrid system.
It is a known fact that Toyota is the undisputed king of hybrid systems but what about Honda?
We'll start by a full comparison between the engine choices, then we look at the transmissions and how different they are.
Then we look at the Braking system, AWD System and the Hybrid battery.
Lastly we talked about some similarities between, Maintenance costs and lastly we draw a conclusion on which one is better.
The cars featured in this video are a 2022 Toyota Camry Hybrid with the 4th generation hybrid system and a 2023 Honda CRV Hybrid.
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0:00 Intro
1:09 Engine
5:57 Transmission
14:21 Brakes
17:46 AWD System
19:16 Hybrid Battery
22:01 Similarities between them
24:44 Maintenance Cost Comparison
27:48 Driving Impressions
29:52 Which one is better?

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@Thankyou_3 Жыл бұрын

I have owned Hondas for over 3 decades and last decade have owned Toyotas. By far, Toyotas ages more gracefully than Hondas. Toyotas also are annoyingly reliable. You will only sell your Toyota if you are bored with the vehicle…not because of quality issues.

@jamesmedina2062 Жыл бұрын

By and large parts break-down in both and you have to spend the money on these services. Toyota to me ensures all the parts and systems are top notch whereas Honda does that only on major systems. Honda’s lower systems are designed to break and provide gravy to their shops.

@NgratefulNgrateInbred Жыл бұрын

I have only owned, invested, and maintained Toyota and Honda vehicles, over 200K mileage. The power train (stock engine) are very strong and reliable. Your domestic car makers all have engine problems before evening reaching 100k mileage. Crappy shitty imports like Kia and Hyundai , their engines fail at 60K and barely have any power and torque

@hondaboi9893 Жыл бұрын

Same. My family has owned Toyotas and Hondas all my life. I’ve always had civics since highschool. Looking to get my first Toyota Corolla hybrid after watching this channel. Love this guy.

@alexzman85 Жыл бұрын

Honda transmission is garbage 🗑️

@ahmadghosheh3104 Жыл бұрын

100% total DIY buzz kill, I know I got 2 Camrys and work on my friends Hondas more than family Toyotas 😂

@anthonyrice8528 Жыл бұрын

Your ability to understand and explain mechanical engineering concepts in simple terms is just amazing to me, it's why this is my favorite car channel on youtube by far. Mad respect for all of you master techs out there

@alexanderthemeek Жыл бұрын

😊😊😊

@HristovRumen Жыл бұрын

Wtf does master tech even mean? Perhaps you mean someone who has a functional understanding of vehicle electronic systems. In that case then, I must be a god-appointed-tech. I just love these terms ppl come up with to try and point out that someone who claims to be something is actually half-decent at it. I've lost all hope a long time back..

@bolt-212 Жыл бұрын

@@HristovRumen you need help!!

@HristovRumen Жыл бұрын

@@bolt-212 can you help me? 😆

@ccarniver Жыл бұрын

The way he explained the ecvt transmissions were not just confusing but also wrong. I don't see him deserving a praise in this regard

@bigdreams5554 5 ай бұрын

Car Care Nut, you may be a mechanic by day, but i think you were born for KZfaq / making educational videos. Great explanations, thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!!

@hansjansen3600 Жыл бұрын

I am a real Honda driver. Drove a honda shuttle for 464000 km. Now a 2007 CRV with already 370000km. My WiFi drives a 2019 CRV hybrid. Love all three of them. ☺️

@M4NA5 3 күн бұрын

I have a WiFi too but it doesn’t do anything. Also, what’s a “real” Honda driver?

@Buffalobulltofta Жыл бұрын

As a Toyota fan and owner, i have huge respect for the japanese sibling. They are both quality cars. I prefer the slight utilitarian dullnes of the Toyota over the Honda techy video game character, but that's just a matter of taste. I'm glad both are still putting out great cars. Now, why anyone would buy a german car over these...

@ezustnyil8414 Жыл бұрын

If you have tons of money to keep your BMW, Porsche- Audi and Mercedes on their toes why not, they are very good cars with high standards and very high reselling values, plus its prestige. I think (proper) german car owners buy those cars because of these factors, the way I heard german cars are also reliable but you have to be precise with their maintenance, and have a wallet big enough to keep it up.

@Buffalobulltofta Жыл бұрын

@@ezustnyil8414 yes, they are mainly symbolic articulations of prestige. And of course, historically they have had the upper hand when it comes to interactive material quality, driving dynamics and comfort. However, the last generations of Japanese (and Korean) cars have completely diminished those gaps in my opinion. Everything has gotten more generic by all means, but it has become clear that the rest of the car industry can do what the Germans have done, while maintaining higher quality, reliability and longevity.

@jamesmedina2062 Жыл бұрын

@@Buffalobulltofta Good in theory but not in reality. VW/Audi, BMW, and Mercedes place a priority on comfort first and then driving dynamics. They achieve it while the Japanese and Koreans make attempts which often miss. It is not a hit or miss with BMW. They hit the targets.

@Buffalobulltofta Жыл бұрын

@@jamesmedina2062 they also hit back to the dealer 5 times in the first year of it's life. That's just statistics, in reality. Historically you are right, things have changed the last couple of years however. I've owned a bunch of contemporary BMW's (and even more unfortunate, Audis) and still drive them all the time for work, it gets old. And foremost, they have completely lost their distinction.

@ezustnyil8414 Жыл бұрын

@@Buffalobulltofta I agree, but not everyone, the best example is how the car community is divided by their needs, for example many people claim that Lexus's luxury and high end sport cars are less "power" and "practicality" for the money than a porsche or other german high end sport cars, but I believe true luxury and fun is the lower amount of time your cars needs to spend in a dealership. Plus many cars drives differently, as a Japanese car owner I respect their power, I know a BMW or an Audi will accelarate faster or achieve higher speed, but when the corner is coming I know its my turn, all of these cars have their places and their ownder types, only the needs and the amount of money is different.

@ouis-xv3vp Жыл бұрын

As a technician Toyota is the gold standard in hybrid technology no one else especially Hyundai and Kia has never been close to Toyota reliability and longevity and they have perfected their hybrid technology for more than 25 years.

@jimquast8186 26 күн бұрын

We have a 2009 Prius it has 340000 miles on it. This car is unbelievable never had anything go wrong with it and still driving it. ❤❤Toyota

@MonaHarmon 8 ай бұрын

After driving Fords most of my life, I bought a new 2017 Camry. Loved it! Traded it at 2 years for a new 2019 Camry Hybrid. Beautiful, great gas mileage no issues at all. Kept it 4 years. Got most of my money back when I traded it in after 4 years for the 2023 Toyota Crown Limited with Advanced Technology Package. It only comes in Hybrid. Awesome car! Sits higher than a standard sedan, love this! All the bells and whistles. The package gives me the panoramic camera that I must have for safety. Very smooth ride, smoother than my Camry's and they were great! Today I got 52.6 mpg. Avg is 42 mpg.

@MrSnazzy682 4 ай бұрын

Thinking about getting a crown for my dad who has a bad knee. I think it would be easier to slide in and out. His Camry hybrid is too low. The crown is expensive but it’s like a Lexus inside. I like it

@rickjohansson4257 Ай бұрын

But since that car is more expensive than a Camry, you really don’t “save money “ on gas until many years have gone by….

@DanA-bk2kr 3 күн бұрын

I'm envious right now. Looky guy.

@joeshmoe8952 Жыл бұрын

I got a 15 Prius with over 120k miles. Zero issues whatsoever. Low maintenance & great mpg. Best thing I like about my Prius is that it's made in Japan.

@raycollington4310 Жыл бұрын

My car is Toyota, my motorcycle is Honda. Both great Japanese engineering. Very informative content. Thank you all at TCCN TV.

@MrMustangrick Жыл бұрын

Me also.

@TTerribleK Ай бұрын

now that you mention it, why doesn't toyota have bikes

@seanh2390 3 күн бұрын

nice combination

@simonkolar5478 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Ahmed. Informative, unbiased, no BS, straight to the point. Keep the quality content coming.

@kingpin461 Жыл бұрын

Your understanding and explanation of these engineering concepts in plain terms is so amazing. Thumbs up 👍🏾 AMD

@terrynewell4749 Жыл бұрын

Great explanation on the differences. I own both Toyotas and Hondas and you nailed it. The Toyotas are more reliable but the Hondas are just better to drive and still pretty reliable. At least that's what I tell folks.

@coastalhillbilly3419 3 ай бұрын

I agree with that, I’d also add Hondas in general are nicer looking cars, That new CRV hybrid is a home run for styling IMO

@beatonthedonis 3 ай бұрын

The new Corollas and Yarises drive a lot better, but at a cost of space and practicality.

@sethtenrec 2 ай бұрын

@@coastalhillbilly3419”nicer looking”?? you got some weird priorities

@coastalhillbilly3419 2 ай бұрын

@@sethtenrec how about not as fugly?

@sethtenrec 2 ай бұрын

@@coastalhillbilly3419 I’ll keep that in mind next time I want to mount a car on the wall in my living room.

@SFzip Жыл бұрын

The Toyota Hybrid's eCVT is so dependable that stocking parts for it is practically unheard of.

@magfav Жыл бұрын

This is the best video I’ve personally seen you put out! Thank you, and BRAVO!

@DM-qe3ci Ай бұрын

Thank you for the great review. I have watched numerous RAV4 hybrid and CRV reviews. Most of them talk about superficial items. I've always appreciate your mechanical reviews and in-depth clarity on how systems work. Thank you again for all your great help in these reviews and explanations.

@gennaro4941 Жыл бұрын

2 great car companies, but I'm sticking with Toyota on the hybrids.. excellent video!!

@walpoleandworcester Жыл бұрын

My cousin has a 2023 CRV Hybrid and it was insane how fuel efficient it was. Of course, it got the best MPG for in town driving and all that, but held its own for long distances too. You can't go wrong with the new Honda hybrids for sure. Has this nice shuttle like sound too and it's super quiet for the most part.

@aluisious Жыл бұрын

"Shuttle like?"

@louisax4058 Жыл бұрын

My cousin bought that car after testing both Rav4 and CRV. He preferred the CRV for the smoother ride

@tonyjordan1320 Жыл бұрын

@@aluisious I also thought what the heck is a Shuttle like sound?

@bhaebe6671 Жыл бұрын

@@aluisious Space shuttle for sure

@mikeinva8563 Жыл бұрын

We have a 2019 Honda Indsight Touring. We almost always beat the EPA mileage. It does have a noticeable lag at start, especially since we use eco mode which exaggerates that.

@redscorpion3 10 ай бұрын

I have owned a top of the line Odyssey one time. Sold it after 9 years and decided never to buy again. Suspension, brake, wheel bearing, engine mount, expensive run-flat tires, transmission issues and the very low resale value TRAUMATIZED the heck out of me. The engine, though, no doubt is excellent.

@fwood1231 Жыл бұрын

Just recently made my own comparison between Rav4 Hybrid and CRV Hybrid. And I chose the Rav4. It felt stronger, better acceleration, less road noise and rattling, better feeling seats, better storage space for how I use it. And a real spare tire. And I’m loving the vehicle. 45.3 mpg over 7500 miles of driving. And I’ve owned many Honda vehicles, traded from a HRV. This is my second Toyota, first was 1994. Very happy with my decision. Thanks for being the best car channel on utube.

@miragexl007 10 ай бұрын

Lol. Huge toyota fan.. but, no to your comments when it comes to the rav 4?

@chefgav1 8 ай бұрын

But woefully underpowered. Chinese do HEV power delivery so much better

@amyhawkins369 8 ай бұрын

Just purchased a '24 CR-V Sport L (hybrid) after driving the whole segment, including the Korean and American vehicles. Honda drove FAR quieter (used NIOSH app on my smart phone to document cabin noise in both--not close) at all but take off speeds, was more refined inside and out and felt more solidly planted on the road than the RAV4. To boot, it has better availability and thus a lower real world price tag as well, which is huge. There have to be new cars on the lot, not just on factory order, or nobody's having a driving experience at all! Toyota's struggling with that right now, unfortunately. I understand the compromises/potential vulnerabilities with the Honda transmission (although there were some inaccuracies presented), braking and AWD systems, but I chose to prioritize the every day driving experience over potential maintenance issues in the distant future. If we wanted strictly reliable cars, they would be extremely crude, uncomfortable, unwieldy, unsafe and underpowered. That's not for me. I'll enjoy pleasant driving today and deal with any potential reliability issues (and with Honda, those are not a given by any stretch) when and if they occur. I totally understand a RAV4 purchaser's laser focus on reliability and all things practical, like a donut spare. I wish I could have that cake as well, but I'm too busy over here eating my driving experience cake. 😁

@psynurse 3 ай бұрын

@@chefgav1lol Chinese fanboy

@chuckasualty Жыл бұрын

would've liked to see you compare the Hybrid Camry with the Hybrid Accord since they are both mid-sized sedans

@RastaJediX Жыл бұрын

I bet all Honda owners wish they had a @The Honda Care Nut! I swear, there needs to be one of you for every manufacturer!!!

@doncapo732 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic work as always! Thank you so much for such a thorough comparison and breaking everything down in detail.

@allanbraithwaite7048 9 ай бұрын

Watching your videos makes me appreciate the amount of research and development that has gone into these modern hybrid cars. I am due to take delivery of a new Toyota Carolla 1.8 Excel (UK spec) soon and feel very reasured after seeing the technology that has been built into the vehicle.

@aaronmichael1022 Жыл бұрын

Another great video! I imagine the majority of your viewers own Toyotas and Hondas so it's really great to see how the design/engineering compares overall.

@phillyphan6117 Жыл бұрын

I'm an Insight owner and I average 47mpg, 470 mile per tank full, 10 gallon tank. I've driven Japanes cars for over 30 years now, I'm hooked on Honda but I do like the Toyotas and I've owned Nissans also. Either way the both are great and you do a great job on your channel.

@vietnam1566 10 ай бұрын

We thank you Master Mechanic. The Car Care Nut, your video is very exceptional, others KZfaq had discussed Toyota Hybrid XLE versus Hybrid Honda, you had gone over how each engine performed. The details are very helpful to the consumers to select the right car for them. This is a great video.

@Thorgrimn 9 ай бұрын

This is a completely different angle to view when comparing these 2 awesome companies. Thank you!

@keitha.9788 Жыл бұрын

Luv the Toyota Hybrid system - fewer parts, therefore less to go wrong and maintain...

@pauld3327 Жыл бұрын

Even less moving parts in a Tesla

@psynurse 3 ай бұрын

@@pauld3327but they are junk.

@pauld3327 3 ай бұрын

@@psynurse Definitely not

@habibullinayrat 2 ай бұрын

Emm cooling system? Special braking system that is much complicated? Batteries that overheat and you need to replace? Where is it better?

@mervwhitney7229 Жыл бұрын

As usual , a very professional appraisal of the two vehicles. You certainly know your stuff and provide comment which is very fair to both manufacturers. Very interesting to hear your opinions.

@edenfinch5299 5 ай бұрын

This is the holygrail explanation! KZfaq should award this for quality. Owesome!!!

@varinderkumar1000 Жыл бұрын

Thank You for explaining everything in a very simple and fare way. Well done! Love your videos!

@glenbenton4855 Жыл бұрын

I love Hondas man, that is been my main car for my somewhat short time on earth. Ive owned one 4th gen accord MT 270000 miles all stock and 3 6th gen accords, one V6 and 2 4Cyl 5MT, I will always love my Hondas if I havent made it clear, but TOYODA will ALWAYS be king in reliability

@madnessBG. Жыл бұрын

This is THE BEST automotive channel in KZfaq. Period.

@tpaddock891 11 ай бұрын

Great comparison. It's amazing to me after all the great detailed information you provided here, that comments show so many people still don't completely understand what you explained so clearly.

@bubbame732 Жыл бұрын

I own a 2023 Honda CR-V Hybrid Sport Touring....(March 15th/1100 miles on it now) The RAV4 I looked at Apples for Apples was $3-5K more.....I read Car and Driver through and through, and Consumer Reports, and others, and the CRV blew the Rav4 away... My CRV is smooth as silk, no engine noise at all, NO shifting feelings at all, the Adaptive Cruise just Rocks as does Lane Keeping! I run in ECON mode and get 37 Mpg....SPORT mode is unbelievable and the car takes off like a Ferrari, or a Jaguar.... I think electric and engine drive 4 wheels together. The AWD is awesome, as I can make corner turns and not have any issues. In Sport mode the Artificial shifting is great, (thru the speakers) and I feel like Mario Andretti! With Bose Sound, all power seats, other features, above the basic models, I am at $43K.....I couldn't touch the Rav4 for less than $46-49!.....The paddle shifters work great, and I increase my regen breaking often, at 3 levels, and for stopping/charging! The Hybrid in this car is awesome, as it goes in and out all the time, and does not stop at 25mph, and make the engine take over. I have seen hybrid drive at 45mph, at times!....Do NOT like the AC Compressor running from the EV Battery!........Love my CRV!

@ROGG16Gaming 3 ай бұрын

Hondas are better than Toyota s for sure, but their prices are getting ridiculous. Imagine spending $34,000 for 1.5L T Honda Civic. Where I'm currently living the civic costs $34,000 and this is not an SI, just a normal 1.5L Civic

@veroxeon1858 3 ай бұрын

Goddamm dude chill out its just a Honda crv it's not the second coming of Christ. But glad you're enjoying it

@psynurse 3 ай бұрын

@@ROGG16Gamingthat's insane. They have increased so much in price

@psynurse 3 ай бұрын

@@veroxeon1858talk about an over reaction 🤪

@moarsaur Ай бұрын

I'm three days into a '21 Accord Hybrid -- did not think I'd like the lane keeping at all, but it's great! Haven't tried the adaptive cruise yet. Still feeling out the paddles... cool for regen and saving the brakes, but weird that I'm in charge of that part of the operation. Reset the trip meter for my commute to and from work today, and I was dead on 40mpg, mostly stop-and-go with a short stretch of highway.

@bazinga615 Жыл бұрын

Great to see Honda vs Toyota alive and well. Basically hybrid = Japanese do it better. I’d personally have a little more confidence in the Toyota system for long term ownership mainly due to their experience but good to see its close. Toyota 5th generation hybrid sounds like a very mature development to the next level. I remember when you compared the Hyundai system, not impressed with that one.

@jeffer1101 Жыл бұрын

I often heard about "CVT droning". This is often shown when someone "floors it" to accelerate aggressively during a drive to demonstrate it. The reality is, when you are driving it normally, you'll never notice it since the eCVT will always keep the engine RPMs in the most efficient range. If you floor it, you are asking the vehicle for maximum power, which is achieved at the engine's peak power range (likely in the 4500 RPM range). In a vehicle with a conventional transmission, the gears would allow the engine to get up that speed, but then a shift do the next gear would drop it down to (example) 3000 RPM and the engine has to get back up to 4500 again. An eCVT simply adjusts the ratios so the engine can get to 4500 RPM (very quickly) then adjusts the ratios to keep the engine speed there as the speed increases, maximizing power, acceleration and efficiency. One really nice thing about the eCVT is the smooth driving characteristics if provides. There is no "shifting" so you don't get that "bump" you normally get during a gear change. I have a Toyota Hybrid and love it. It's very fuel efficient and one of the reasons I bought it was the bulletproof reliability they are known for. In the nice weather, my Venza can get high 4s in the city (50 mpg). If you rev the engine really high, it's not the best sounding, but that's not because it isn't a good engine (it is), it's a larger displacement (2.5L) engine that also runs on the Atkinson cycle (at 14:1 compression). It's designed to maximize efficiency, not set lap times at your drag strip (although, it is peppy if you stomp it).

@petejansen7220 Жыл бұрын

You hit the head on the nail there jeffer! You are 100 % right,I agree,I find it very smooth unless you are really heavy footed,then yes there is a definite drone! If you normally drive with a heavy foot to notice the drone often,you have to question weather it would be beneficial to have a hybrid,not sure that you would gain enough efficiency to pay for the extra cost. Excellent explanation jeffer!

@zlonewolf 9 ай бұрын

I have never driven a cvt or ecvt one false thing about the "bump" is that is a manual only thing. automatics dont have that. most you will notice is a dip in rpm follow by rapid rise. Even when floored all i hear is the engine going from super quiet to low screams and alot of wind noise. now if you drive a manual this is very noticeable but only when the clutch is engaged and gear is changing. You will also see the car jerk during gear change. Automatics are smooth as butter. And only slightly worse mpg than manuals.

@moarsaur Ай бұрын

Not only are CVTs and eCVTs two totally different things, but eCVTs are three or four totally different things all by themselves. It's a marketing term that doesn't refer to anything in reality except the presence of at least one electric motor. The video explained in some detail that the two "eCVTs" he's looking at aren't even remotely similar in mechanics or driving characteristics. Your experience with your Toyota doesn't tell you anything about either CVTs or the transmissions in other automakers' hybrids.

@jeffer1101 Ай бұрын

@@moarsaur Toyota's eCVT is just a planetary gear set. It's the best system out there. I'm not sure who else uses it. It seems to be relatively uncommon but it is the most reliable system. Some other brands use conventional automatics, some use belt or chain driven CVTs, Toyota uses a planetary gear set.

@moarsaur Ай бұрын

@@jeffer1101 You didn't watch the video, did you?

@markiep8477 Жыл бұрын

You are so good at explaining. Some of it is a little over my head, but I am still able to follow because of your clarity.

@christianpetersen1782 4 ай бұрын

RAV 4 Hybrid 2018 4WD owner here. I swapped from a similar but 2WD RAV 4 to get Vehicle Stability Control and of course 4WD when needed. The 4WD model has 2 electric motors in addition to the 197HP petrol engine. When you floor it for a quick overtake etc, the car takes off like a rocket ! So very impressive. I love the built-in reliability and dependability of Toyota above all else and it would take a mountain to shift my love of this. Thanks for a great video AMD. You managed to explain the complex comparisons so clearly.

@stevensavegnago8689 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are very informative and entertaining. Thanks and keep them coming.

@ryoung6725 Жыл бұрын

I've had both Hondas Accords and Toyota Camrys and Corollas most of all my driving years. Bottom line, the Toyotas always got better gas mileage, had far fewer repairs and definitely higher resale values. Both were easy to work on and rode very well. I recently test drove the honda CRV Hybrid, and it felt like a better built vehicle than the RAV-4, but much pricer. I think I'm going to just wait until Toyota decides to come back to earth on supply chain issues, and buy another Camry hybrid. Thank you Car Care Nut and may the person trying to impersonate you on this channel get himself removed.

@uberefficent3936 Жыл бұрын

Idk where you are from but the RAV4 hybrid is much more expensive in the US due to insane toyota markups. Honda doesnt markup their vehicles like toyota does.

@rogy4965 Жыл бұрын

@@uberefficent3936 Tucson and Phoenix area. Local dealers, on their lot: Honda CR-V Sport 2wd: $34,835.00 msrp. Rav-4 LE 24d: $ 32,560.00 Msrp. Doc fees and taxes extra. Both hybrids.

@uberefficent3936 Жыл бұрын

@@rogy4965 yeah those are the MSRP prices but then u get on their lot and they got markups... they tried selling me a 2022 gas corolla (not even hybrid) for 30k

@uberefficent3936 Жыл бұрын

@@ry1608 i guess its different over there.... in my area every toyota had at least a 4k+ MSRP markup

@disco.lemonade Жыл бұрын

Same here, my cars and the family's have always been of these two brands. Except the most failures, which were rare anyway, came from Toyotas. The Corolla interior quality was horrendous compared with the Civic (both 2008-2011 or so). The transmission on the second gen RAV4 died with little over 150K miles on it. Interestingly, it was a Toyota made, not Aisin's. 3rd Gen Rav4 presented minor issues with its computer and again with the tranny. One of the CR-Vs presented suspension issues and the other with over 400K miles on it (a 2008) had only an oil leak lmao. Resale value I found it depend on car from car. Some it was Honda, others Toyota. Overall, we simply do not buy other than those two brands.

@darylhurlbut3473 Жыл бұрын

I have a 2020 Honda Insight. I drive about 500-700 miles per week for work. Absolutely love it. The two motor hybrid system is amazing. I'll likely get another Honda for work again when this one is 5-6 years old. I currently have almost 70k on it with no issues at all. I really like the new CRV that is being discussed in this video. If they don't make a civic hybrid (to replace the discontinued Insight), then I'll likely get a CRV. I've never owned a Toyota, but I've considered them and may consider one instead of the Honda possibly. Either way, can't go wrong with either system. They both seem to be bulletproof. The Japanese vehicles are so refined and reliable. Great information here from one of the best car technicians on KZfaq! Keep up the great work!

@bubbame732 Жыл бұрын

@darylhurlbut3473 Жыл бұрын

@@bubbame732 you got a great vehicle. My hybrid has been great. I usually average around 48mpg overall. It's too bad Honda discontinued my model. The CRV looks great in the new body style. Excellent choice!

@bubbame732 Жыл бұрын

@@darylhurlbut3473 yes...totally agree....only downer was the rearview mirror did not include Homelink, so I added it afterwards, (pricey) and also didn't realize the mirrors don't fold in. I have some small concerns about AMD mentioning carbon build-up because of the Direct Injection, so I am kicking around using premium gas on this 2.0 liter! Wife has a new Acura (Honda Mfg) MDX "Tech" Model, and gas mileage very poor, (V6) so if they come out with a Hybrid MDX, were gonna switch in a year or so!

@n9athan 11 ай бұрын

@@darylhurlbut3473they discontinued the Insight, but it will be replaced by the civic hybrid which is basically the same car.

@darylhurlbut3473 11 ай бұрын

@@n9athan I heard that. I'm looking forward to it. I just got a Hyundai Santa Cruz for my personal car, so my Insight wil need to go another 3 more years until 2026. Then I can get a new business car. I'm pretty sure the new Civic Hybrid will be what I get. Hondas are awesome and our nearest dealer is amazing. I watched a video on KZfaq and the driver in europe said he was getting the equivalent of 60 mpg. My car is sometimes in that range, but overall im closer to 48. Still pretty good. And still possible that I may get a CRV Hybrid instead of the Civic. Honda just maes some of the best vehicles around. Hopefullly my Santa Cruz is able to pass the test of time. First time buying a Hyundai.....

@joselitozabala7054 10 ай бұрын

I'm really impressed by your knowledge of the different factors that contribute to car dependability. You really know your stuff.

@TheTheGuinness Жыл бұрын

Thanks for making these very good informative videos! 👍

@jp7489 Жыл бұрын

Toyota owner/fan all they way👍

@jmichael6931 Жыл бұрын

Recently purchased a 23 Rav4 Hybrid (Woodland trim!) and am loving the ride. It is very smooth from a stop. The transition to ICE is subtle and I hardly notice it, even as someone who has not had a hybrid before. The AWD system is surprisingly nice. There's ample videos showing how capable it truly is! Your videos helped a lot in making my decision and also showed me the ways to make this a LONG term vehicle

@sarahcrotts1151 Жыл бұрын

Same boat… and bought the Woodland as well (loved those bronze wheels and trees since the press release came out). I’ve had both a Honda (first car) and a Toyota. Toyota lasted 16 years, hopefully the woodland lasts at least 12-15 years or longer.

@jayp4114 Жыл бұрын

I'd imagine you had to wait for a year to obtain it, and paid over MSRP. Excellent vehicle, though.

@jmichael6931 Жыл бұрын

@@jayp4114 you would be wrong on both thoughts. I called my first dealership in January and had the car in my driveway mid February. Paid MSRP for it!

@psynurse 3 ай бұрын

Somewhat capable. Some videos showing going up hill in foot of snow and it heavily taxed the awd system, overheating

@billbrimmer7047 10 ай бұрын

As always, a high quality review. Always appreciate your knowledge.

@Anomize23 Жыл бұрын

Taxi cab mechanic here says nothing beats a toyota. They can be a pain to maintain sometimes but man the mileage on the hybrids goes 300k miles easy. No argument here 😂

@juanojeda8069 Жыл бұрын

Even more I see Camry hybrid with 600.000 miles at actions

@zibifranz2429 5 ай бұрын

Excellent analysis of both models! Thank you!

@jorgelujan8578 Ай бұрын

Excellent comparison I work at a Honda dealership and shared this video with all my co-workers

@victorherrero4790 5 ай бұрын

Amazing stuff, simple, to the point and super clear. Kudos!

@EngineMisfire Жыл бұрын

I have driven a Honda CRV as a rental car. I currently own a 2023 RAV4 Prime and they are pretty much even in terms of comfort and good driving manners. My Honda garden tools, however, are many notches above other companies. My lawn mover starts, after a long winter slumber outside, on the second pull, even though it is 20 years old. Never had a spark plug replaced or the carburetor fixed. My weed trimmer is the same: only yearly oil changes and very reliable. Until Toyota makes a lawn mover or a week wacker, Honda has the edge for me.😆

@psynurse 3 ай бұрын

Exactly

@daklight2792 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Thanks for this. I have been in the market to replace my 18 year old Honda Element and test drove both the CR-V Hybrid and RAV4 hybrid. Liked them both. Excellent vehicles.

@bicycle697 Жыл бұрын

I learn so much from your lectures! Thanks Mr. Nut!!

@olusegunbraimoh2030 3 ай бұрын

I love the way you explain and balance the points. It's really hard to tell which one is better

@losiglowful Жыл бұрын

Great vid. The reduced maintenance in the Toyota hybrid was a perk that I wasn't expecting when I bought my first Lexus ES 300h.

@rj12345rj Жыл бұрын

What do you mean by reduced maintenance?

@RK-db4oq Жыл бұрын

You mean until the hybrid battery needs to be replaced. Then you make up for all that "reduced maintenance".

@ronmorrell9809 6 ай бұрын

Replacement occurs well after 100,000 miles. A friend who works at a music store with help from his high school son replaced his gen 2 Prius battery in an afternoon. The rebuilt battery was $2000, including shipping of the replacement and the returned core. Old batteries are too valuable for the landfill.

@steven6888 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the great explanation on the differences between the two systems. Wonderful presentation.

@nsteblay Жыл бұрын

I have the 2023 CRV sport touring and can categorically state that there is not a few-second delay when accelerating quickly, it is immediate. My experience is the 184 HP electric motor is doing all the initial acceleration, and the gas engine only is spinning the second motor to recharge the battery. The clutch engages the gas motor to drive in certain high-speed and towing situations but not for general acceleration. The gear shifts that are heard are simulated and not the result of the clutch kicking in.

@billisdewillis5 7 ай бұрын

I have the CRV Touring Hybrid as well…the acceleration is immediate and the gas engine kicks in afterward. The vehicle is quite a nice vehicle compared to the RAV4 which is not as comfortable, not as quiet, not as sporty, etc

@horsepowerandtalk1033 Жыл бұрын

Multiple Prius owner here. Check the dates the Honda Insight hit the USA before the Prius, but Prius means first, and it was first in Japan. The Camry gets better mpg than the Honda. The Toyota brakes are just fine and have only one problem that is the scary feeling when braking over sewer caps or railroad tracks. You want weird brakes try a 50s or 60s car with 4 drum brakes w/ or w/o power boost. The Honda droans, too. Who gets the best milage and lasts longest?

@Dan-p360 Жыл бұрын

I so enjoyed this video presentation of these two automotive giants. The way you explained the systems differences and similarities were carefully and professionally presented which added my understanding. I consider myself much more informed because of your grasp of the mechanical complexities of these companies offerings, your pleasant delivery, and the smooth "Hollywood" quality cinematography. You brought your "A" game as usual my friend. Thank you.

@rayRay-pw6gz Жыл бұрын

I agree . The DRONE part confused me . Does he mean that the transmission is loud ? I find that the most noise comes from the tires related to types of surfaces. And some wind noise at higher speeds . The engine and exhaust can get loud at higher RPM but, that is to be expected. YOUR THOUGHTS Dan .

@susanmeredith4957 Жыл бұрын

Nice comparison. I had no choice, in 2022 we didn’t have a hybrid CRV(Canada). , But very happy with my Rav. I’d still pick Rav. Seems like less to maintain, and Toyota has been making hybrids a long time.

@igortokarev2350 Жыл бұрын

Even for 2023 choice in Canada is no better. CRV Hybrid exists only in one trim for 51+K. In the same time there is plenty of Rav4 Hybrid options from 38K to 49K.

@lexwaldez Жыл бұрын

The RAV is nice if you hate headroom everywhere and legroom in the back. The RAV is a "tell me you're short without telling me you're short," kind of deal.

@susanmeredith4957 2 ай бұрын

@@lexwaldezmy husband is 6’2 and has no problem sitting in passenger seat of my Rav.

@sazisazi 10 ай бұрын

Good analysis from a Master Mechanic. Respect!

@everydayfun9531 Жыл бұрын

Ahmed can you plss compare both naturally aspirated engine and turbofied engine in one of your next videos id really love to hear it from someone like you since your such an expert in explaining this stuff and i love watching your videos it really feels simple and not thst hard to understand what your saying man!

@catwill2022 Жыл бұрын

Bought a Hybrid Highlander last year and love it. I was torn between Sienna and Highlander since we are not a big family after watching your Q&As (btw… I miss those vids). Love the 34 MPG and luxury like features and smooth ride. Because of the supply issues, I was willing to try Hyundai Palisade and Acura MDX, it I’m glade I got The Highlander 😊

@fredinpainpa8491 Жыл бұрын

That was an excellent comparison. Thank you!

@jhors7777 Жыл бұрын

You have a fabulous channel. You do a great job of researching and explaining. Thank-you.

@SuperSnakePlissken Жыл бұрын

I literally watch every one of your videos from beginning to end because I love learning. With that said you still haven’t convinced me to buy a hybrid. For as long as I can I will buy only a gas powered engine. And for as long as I can I will buy only a naturally aspirated engine. I own a 2017 Honda Accord V6 touring and I hope that car last forever. That 3.5 L V6 is the most enjoyable motor I’ve ever had in a vehicle.

@cevans2021 11 ай бұрын

I own a Honda Clarity Plug In Hybrid and I will say I absolutely love the fact that the engine can ran as simply a generator, and not as a drive motor. Makes the experience driving much smoother, and as you put it, refined. Being born and raised with German cars, the driving experience has always been important to me. That has always been one of my "Why don't they design it this way" thoughts of hybrid systems, and one thing I gave GM huge credit for, for actually designing a system that way. Diesel locomotives have been that way for 100 years, why not passenger vehicles.

@TragickSin 6 ай бұрын

Hybrid is liberal trash and I am a real man and will not feminize myself like that

@maxadams7425 Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed every second of your analysis. You are an awesome teacher and presenter 💜

@AB-jk7tw 9 ай бұрын

Outstanding educational comparison! Very interesting and helpful!

@21jimmyo Жыл бұрын

I've owned a dozen Hondas and a few Toyotas. Both are excellent. I also do all my own mechanical work as well. I find that I find things I love, and things I don't about both of them. Hondas seemed to be more fun to drive than Toyotas. Toyotas tend to be more straightforward than Honda, but Hondas are really well-engineered and they seem to understand that someday someone will be working on it. You can't go wrong with either brand.

@jeffjo8732 8 ай бұрын

Contrary to popular belief, both of these systems include a clutch. You can't connect an ICE to the wheels of a vehicle without some fail-safe device in case of catastrophic change in engine speeds. Toyota calls it a "torque damper." It is a clutch that is permanently applied, but "slips" a little when the rpm of the engine, and what it connects to, change inconsistently. The issue is that this happens more in the Toyota system, than the Honda system, when the engine is started. The Power Split Device in a Toyota tries to maintain the rpm relationship 18*ICE=5*MG1+13*MG2. EV Drive is accomplished by making MG1=-2.6*MG2 (motors can run backwards). To start the ICE, the system simply slows MG1 (or starts it, if the car is at rest). MG2 can't change because it is geared directly to the wheels, so this results in a slip between the Torque Damper's clutch plates. The Honda system starts the engine using the generator as a motor, when it is not connected to the wheels. So there is no counter-force requiring the torque damper to slip. And the over-drive clutch is only engaged after the engine has reached the same rpm as the overdrive gear, so again there is no slippage. So the Toyota system has potential clutch failures, and the Honda system does not. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8ehpNZk07HdZJs.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/reBzdKagr9SRp4E.html

@ThoneJones 7 ай бұрын

I’m not a mechanic or even a car guy, but I love your channel. You do a great job presenting.

@wolftanktreads9085 9 ай бұрын

Great video as always,learned quite a bit. Thanks!

@YZERPLAN Жыл бұрын

Honda owner here for the last 25 years. Just purchased our first 2023 RAV4 Limited Hybrid last week. All I can say is thank you for the great memories Honda, but I’m all in on Toyota going forward. Love my new RAV HYBRID , this is the best vehicle I’ve ever owned PERIOD🔥🙏🏻👍🏻✌🏻

@miriamvivo4279 Жыл бұрын

Same here,except for 1 subaru big mistake 2006 sti no bueno

@basilman121 Жыл бұрын

That's interesting, I felt the RAV4 didn't have the same drive quality as the Camry, it's 100% a solid car though!

@jeretso Жыл бұрын

@@basilman121 Camry is better than RAV4 but most want SUVs.

@tlqweasdzxc001 Жыл бұрын

Because you bought a brand new car and comparing it with old.

@agak61 16 күн бұрын

The most overpriced too 😊

@dblissmn Жыл бұрын

Great video but there's a use case angle here that's been missed, and it concerns fuel economy. Honda's series-hybrid approach delivers significant benefits in 25-55mph driving, but their fixed clutches make for excessive RPM compared to Toyota at 70mph and up, with the engine being manacled to the higher speed clutch at a fixed ratio about 50mph and up as opposed to Toyota's CVT adjusting RPM down at high speed whenever it can. This produces some quirks in reviews -- for example the Consumer Reports test is very heavy on 25-55 mph driving and so Honda hybrid fuel economy comes out looking good in a CR test. I'd absolutely favor Toyota as a 70mph-plus freeway cruiser; also for high-intensity city driving given the durability issues raised in this video. But Honda could be a very good suburban commuter in the US or rural secondary roads driver in Europe.

@ryanllts 7 ай бұрын

new york highway speed limit is 55, honda wins

@QnA22 7 ай бұрын

In Europe taxation (at buying stage and monthly) is often done on engine volume. Therefore a 2.0 system makes a whole lot more sense. Performance is about the same unless you want to race on the German autobahn, you'll be doing 120-130 kmh (75-80mph) on the highway and 18 to 30 in the cities. It's why the 1.5 liter engines are popular. Fuel economy of the 1.5 also counts of course. Anyways, in Europe i drive a 2.4 liter which often raises eyebrows, while abroad i have my land cruiser 200 which they don't even sell in the EU as taxes would go through the roof.

@Selahree 6 ай бұрын

This is very helpful as in California, folks are going 70 to 90 mph usually on the highway. Thanks.

@carpingnyland8518 6 ай бұрын

@@ryanllts NY Thruway speed limit is 65, as is the limit on parts of many expressways in NY. State Troopers will rarely pull you over for under 75 (if not 80.) Traffic in many places moves faster than 70.

@ronmorrell9809 6 ай бұрын

The fixed gear ratio is slightly faster than top gear of the 6-speed manual. Extra torque from the electric motor may be needed to accelerate when the gear is engaged.

@daddyoldschool8294 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant video! Thank you for posting.

@volokst4768 Жыл бұрын

Великолепное сравнение! Давно ждал. Спасибо!

@-DC- Жыл бұрын

Taxi companies local to me are massive Toyota fans not unusual to see one with 400k plus on the clock, Nothing like a Hybrid Toyota for long term reliability.

@haresshsid7198 Жыл бұрын

mr. Car Care Nut, I've been following all your videos for a long time, it has taught me about engine maintenance & making good car choices. this comparison video has been, by far, my favourite! always wanted to know the mechanical breakdown on both their hybrid systems, Im glad I saw this video!

@pacoguerilla3097 8 ай бұрын

Excellent review/comparaison 😊

@bitzanu1 Ай бұрын

Great review! Keep up the good work!

@Andek74 Жыл бұрын

In general, I owned both and love both brands. Honda (I have had HRV I, CRV II and Civic VII) gasoline engines are bulletproof, but will have some more issues with minor things. Toyota in general is very reliable, I have a Lexus RX400h and despite its 350k kms, it has just NO ISSUES, but I do care about the regular maintenance.

@drsmith1988 Жыл бұрын

Great analysis as usual. One thing that I have seen in other reviews. The Toyota (RAV4 vs CRV) is more efficient under load (high speed>70 MPH or going up mountains). At low speeds the Honda may do a little better. This comes from the Toyota transmission keeping the engine at top efficiency.

@lyanaramirez853 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this review !!!! I was in between rav4 and crv. I thought at first like nooo way would I get a hybrid. Now after seeing this video I feel comfortable to go for it because of the perros! Especially since I travel far for week! Best channel on my car search thus far !!

@erkutvural9301 Жыл бұрын

Perfect explanations and comparison between those two hybrid system. Many thanks..

@lionintu Жыл бұрын

Bro I don't know how I came across you but your videos are excellent. Super informative. I look forward to the 2024 Camry even more after listening to this

@Yaba414 Жыл бұрын

I can easily say that driving the Honda Accord Hybrid is way more refined than the Camry hybrid. It really feels like quality. My accord can do 1000km per refill. I’m yet to test is in scorching hot weather in the UAE. Been driving it since January and yes it’s a salvage from NC, USA. Options wise, I don’t think toyota is there yet. Active noise cancellation, blind spot, adaptive CC, LCA, LMA, the sound system, the leather, heated front and rear with ventilated fronts.. it’s just so beautiful. As you said though, the toyota hybrids are easier to work on. This accord costed me a lot to rebuild. Mainly due to lack of aftermarket choices.

@mikevidovich8311 17 күн бұрын

As a Aircraft Mechanic , I really appreciate your evaluations and style . Keep these coming and add more vehicles . I really like / wanted this kinda driveline evaluations . Thanks

@user-rs9dr3cj2h 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for explaining everything well, nice job

@jodibadger Жыл бұрын

This was so useful and informative! I have a 2020 MDX hybrid - the last year they had the hybrid option. I have been feeling a little guilt6 about the purchase because my husband is a die-hard utilitarian Toyota fan. But the hybrid MDX is just so nice to drive! Speedy and maneuverable for a 3-row SUV, quiet, comfortable, doesn’t have that unpleasant CVT feel. I do notice the transmission lag you mentioned, but we are used to it now. I just hope it’s reliable and lasts a long time. It seems very complicated! I will say that the infotainment isn’t great and I wish there were more old-fashioned buttons for the heat and stereo. Mazda is smart to be keeping those.

@Fadic4 Жыл бұрын

FYI, the MDX sport hybrid is not in anyway related to this system and drives completely different compared to this system.

@drsg9124 Жыл бұрын

No need to feel bad. It's an awesome vehicle, I have one myself

@kiwihowser Жыл бұрын

I have one too. It is a different system than the CRV hybrid described. I don’t experience the transmission lag in sport plus mode which is my primary mode.

@Fred-F4 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for comparing to Honda, I appreciate it! We need your opinion on other brands

@gallopngoose8753 9 ай бұрын

Well-done AMD! I don't always listen to AMD discuss Toyotas and Hondas or anything Automotive but when I do my neighbors do too.... loud and proud on my system. I'm always curious about the reliability issues of the car as a whole and of the subsystems. Infrequently, you do not find a reviewer get into the nuts and bolts and discuss the intricacies of the pros and the cons. Rather they just talk about the styling, the MPGs, performance, the way it drives or this or that. While that certainly has its place nothing can take the place of inside knowledge on the way things work and how they will last for our hard-earned money. Keep 'em coming!

@javig5045 Ай бұрын

I learned so much from your presentations thanks to you teaching skills, so thanks for all your efforts and I now look forward to new ones....Javi G.

@edmarcano5778 Жыл бұрын

i was a honda guy for a long time.I'd pick toyota all day.They take it up a notch

@stephenwierzbicki4463 2 ай бұрын

Thank You SO VERY MUCH for the Explanation of the Hybrid's 😊❤ engine's 🎉 I wish more mechanics would Talk about the systems in greater depth, like yourself 😊❤