Watched it all, but I don't have a miata nor need a power steering delete :D
@showtaito10757 жыл бұрын
VtecasTV education
@paulofoliveira7 жыл бұрын
+1 here 👍😀
@hiddenkard31016 жыл бұрын
Me too bro. I own a G35 and a 3000GT GTO. Both have heavy as shit steering already. The G35 is worse lol. At first i thought they had power steering problems. But the previous 3000GT owner told me sport cars have heavy steering because they give better stability at high speed and better accuracy when cornering. So i didn't bother asking about the G35 lol I know it has a 350z rack so it heavy as shit. Btw it might be better for sport driving racing but in parking lots it's a pain lol No your economy car with it light playstation like steering wheel is not a sports car. Talking to you corolla and cavalier owners with wings and muffler deletes lol
@ore06906 жыл бұрын
same lol
@grahameverett26763 жыл бұрын
Same except I have a Miata but it’s a base
@diegoarteaga1667 жыл бұрын
underrated channel for the quality and work that goes into each video.
@TheCarPassionChannel7 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@pawpatina7 жыл бұрын
#fact
@joshuachandra66777 жыл бұрын
TheCarPassionChannel most definitely thank you for your time and efforts
@suicideshifting37655 жыл бұрын
Diego Arteaga agreed! 🙏🏼
@_Gingium_7 жыл бұрын
You've made me change my mind! Definitely going to do this on myn, just went through a steering class at school where we took apart multiple racks so im relatively confident at doing it!
@TheCarPassionChannel7 жыл бұрын
You got this!
@TeunS133N7 жыл бұрын
i love how the Engineers of Mazda made it so Easy to fix or modify the car! Always have fun working om the miata
@MorbidKitKat17 жыл бұрын
greg b so smart
@shoopdawooplazars7 жыл бұрын
its the Miata legend himself! Mr.Rice!
@drazlek7 жыл бұрын
You're tutorial videos are top notch. I replaced my water pump, seals and what not, all thanks to your video. Great quality and to the point. Wish your style was more widespread.
@alexchulzhanov5 жыл бұрын
I deleted my power steering, this video was super helpful and the car handles like a dream! One thing I would recommend is dialing down the caster when doing this, the same amount of caster you would want with power steering makes it very difficult to steer without it. I have about 3.5 degrees of caster (instead of 5-6 degrees) and it is much easier to steer now and still tracks straight on its own.
@Nasonix22 жыл бұрын
The real question is how well does it still counter steer on it's own when you take away that much castor... You want the steering to be able to find center on it's own if you experience oversteer and loose grip of the wheel, You don't always have perfect memory of where to turn towards after the wheel spins out of control from your grip. But with 5+ degrees of castor, you don't have to worry much about it because it will counter steer it self back straight.
@koolerthanapolarbear7 жыл бұрын
greg, your videos are fuckin top notch, so much good info... each one with a dollop internet humor. i dont even own a miata, but these videos are great to watch! keep up the great work
@TheCarPassionChannel7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@goodeggproductions7 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you so much for this video. I just picked up a second NA and somebody borked the steering rack really bad. This gives me all the confidence to get in there, pull the rack and disassemble it to see if I can't rebuild it, and if not, at least get a replacement rack to make my steering possible again. I love KZfaq and some of the contributors and content creators.
@MyOpinionMatterss7 жыл бұрын
I prob will never do this but watched the vid anyway because it was entertaining. :)
@Itsthatguyyoudontknow4 ай бұрын
I love how detailed you are and how you show everything step by step. Earned my sub.
@KookiDowg4 жыл бұрын
I've done this steering rack conversion on an Rx7 FC and a 4th gen Prelude and I have to say it is hands down my favorite "mod". Probably not too much on the Prelude since its a heavier chassis but being able to feel the road helps me to know how to reenact to certain instances. Cant wait to do this on my Miata when I get it this July!
@ryenjarvis3007 жыл бұрын
Dude I was just thinking about doing this and was like "man I wish Greg would make a vid..." low and behold! Boom! Here it is. I love you.
@shanebagel4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. I just bought a 91 na6 miata with a serious power steering leak, and as a result the pump was whining like a chihuahua. I found your video, and over the course of a week de-powered the rack with my dad! Now I have manual steering and love the heavy feel of the steering wheel. Amazing video, thank you!!
@byronspencer5395 жыл бұрын
The combination of this video and my lack of budget to purchase another depowered rack has given me the confidence to do this myself.
@MidnightMiata7 жыл бұрын
Doing this as soon as I can! I can already tell my power steering is starting to go and I don't want anymore headaches with it.
@hvskyline13686 жыл бұрын
Tbh this guy ain't getting the love he deserves he is so talented I'm planning on building a Naturally aspirated NA miata so I love how in depth your tutorials are much love
@raceinstinct2 жыл бұрын
Just did this to my ‘90. Took a little while but I’m happy with the results! Thank you for the excellent tutorial!
@johnjimmers93565 жыл бұрын
im deleting power steering now completely and i watched this video before but i never understood it, now that its actually time to do it, it makes so much sense, your video goes into so much detail and i really appreciate it!! really good video!!
@StarmanSoup5 жыл бұрын
Just followed this step by step and completed my rack! Now I just need to reinstall it and I'll be one step closer to getting my Miata back on the road. It's been down for over a year now lol
@vikingskjegg47617 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of videos of this prosess on youtube. None of these are any where near as good as this one. Thanks a bunch. Another project for the comming winter. Two thumbs up!
@TheCarPassionChannel7 жыл бұрын
That means a lot, because I always think twice about doing videos that have been done several times already. This probably took me at least 10-12 hours just to make a 14 minute video including filming and editing but I think it came out pretty clean.
@steelwitness3 жыл бұрын
For someone that your average person wouldn't consider a celebrity. Greg is a celebrity to me and I would be star struck if I met him. I mean he's miata dad bro no denying him. Ive done this several times over the years but i still watch this every time I do
@eddiepadilla89847 жыл бұрын
A review video on how the driving feels after the change would be cool! Great videos
@jaredkerchner57447 күн бұрын
I know this is rather old at this point but there is also a quill spring in the pinion shaft that allows the hydraulic spool valve to send fluid to the ram. If you want maximum feed back then the quill spring needs to be shimmed or welded so all the slop in the linkage is taken up and made solid.
@kazimahsan34564 жыл бұрын
So one thing i thought of to make the centering part easier (idk if it actually works, curious to hear input) what if when you remove the rack you have it at full lock in one direction. That way you just need to put it at full lock in that direction.
@unknown1creature7 жыл бұрын
please do a video on how the car feels now, I've heard missed reviews when it comes to people getting rid of power steering.
@TheCarPassionChannel7 жыл бұрын
I've had Miatas with and without. It really comes down to personal preference, I like both on the track and the street. I definitely prefer no power steering if I have the choice. The Miata is very light so it's not to hard to drive at all, even with big sticky tires.
@sethglenn90227 жыл бұрын
To preserve your alignment, you should just break the jam nut loose just enough to where you can spin the inner tie rod outof the outer. when it's time for install, you just spin the inner into the outer tie rod then tighten the jam nut once it's snug against the outer. If you have access to more tools like a ball joint press and a tie rod puller you should just remove the outer tie rod with it still connected. All if your boots are in good shape. Or just get an alignment. Cool videos dude.
@80ProzentSAG Жыл бұрын
Great Vid, watched it a few times before attempting it and already had a hard time removing the rack. Turns out I missed the *remove bolt completely before and could only move the steering rod out by a few mm, thank you for putting it up!
@NoobProjectCar7 жыл бұрын
finally! a detailed step by step to depower the steering rack.
@samd80546 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. It takes out the mystery of a project to just see all the steps before jumping in.
@Pigeonbutter87907 жыл бұрын
Have a manual rack in the babe but still watching because your vids are great
@Pigeonbutter87907 жыл бұрын
Too lazy to swap in a depowered rack. Manual ratio is good enough for what I do
@galvanicpictures6 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I may do this. Thanks for the detail about the difference in ratio between depowered and OEM manual.
@Seandoestech7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I have a depowered rack and I totally forgot about this mod, now it's another thing to add to my ever-growing to-do list for the boosted miata - thanks a lot Greg!
@ricardovelez3003 жыл бұрын
Quick editing helps a lot on such a long, dirty procedure.. Obvious that you've done it more than a few times, and it shows.. Good job !
@sam_scott_857 жыл бұрын
Great video man, perfect pace for an instructional video. Not painfully slow but you still got all the important info. I'll be doing this to my NA soon!
@WhiskeyBoyz7 жыл бұрын
perfect timing on this video! Have my turbo and manifold off and have been running my PS lines looped. I think this just gave me the 'push from the nest' :D
@Leo9ine7 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing dude! I was planning to do this over the winter but its hard to get a feel for the difficulty level just looking at a forum post. Watching you do it for real and show the details of the process was all I needed to tackle it.
@pawpatina7 жыл бұрын
did it. would never go back. the power gain is not much, but noticeable.... only thing i would have done different (like i did) is take the inner tie rods off while the rack is still on the car. much easier to do AND you don't have to adjust the inner/outer again. and the adjuster nut doesn't need to removed and then you don't have to readjust it. lastly, you didn't weld the steering shaft, it has slop in it and is way noticeable when reassembled. you will have a dead spot of almost an inch or two in the steering if you don't weld it. cool dog!
@youngbloodviper2 жыл бұрын
Glad i found this video as i am planning on deleting my power steering and going with electric power steering from epower
@foxbodygarageamerica93827 жыл бұрын
Greg very impressive and that's coming from a mustang guy with megasquirt ..would like too see you do more tuning videos with megasquirt ...also those maitas look like a lot of fun I may even build after my bracket car is all tuned and track ready .. need a street toy for everyday fun ..
@elliot438bcfcVTEC7 жыл бұрын
I deleted the power steering on my Integra, I just looped the rack with clean fluid in. Feels good for driving but is very stiff when still but you quickly learn how to park/ turn round etc without having to steer while not moving
@MiataMods7 жыл бұрын
such a awesome video Greg! I really like that you go all technical.. I really learned something and for that I thank you! Keep those videos comming!
@benitoalvarez93777 жыл бұрын
Wasn't sure if it was commented already, but based of this video I was able to pull this of on my 95 civic ex. It was a little different on the civic so I had to work around it. However it turned out pretty GREAT ! Was my third rack, was not going to purchase another lol Thanks sick VID 🤙🏼
@darrylyoes4143 жыл бұрын
Greg: great video. But at 10:50, the locking plate needs to be removed and held on the steering rack end so that the tabs inside it engage with the slots in the rack. If not, it's not doing anything to hold the pieces together... Without a locking plate, the inner tie rods can eventually back out of the rack itself. They're not likely to come out because you'd destroy tires from a bad toe setting long before it comes apart. It's better to replace those lock plates, but you can straighten them. Your advice of using lock-tite is spot on. Thanks again!
@adrianrainbow41064 жыл бұрын
Great tutes dude, I was about to do the loop, but now I'm going for the full delete, top presentation, and no jibber jabber!
@svriderpokey7 жыл бұрын
When you have the inner tie rods off, you can squeeze the lock washers in a bench vice to flatten them out.
@TheCarPassionChannel7 жыл бұрын
Oh that's genius, note taken.
@123marijn3217 жыл бұрын
I had a powered steering MX-5 before, it was fine. But now i got one that didn't have power steering from the factory, so much better! And so much more room in the engine bay!
@joetarrant997 жыл бұрын
This channel is so great. You have prepared me for what seems like everything that I need to know and do when I buy a miata. Love the pop things too lol.
@TimVo7 жыл бұрын
dat garage crack! interested on a review of how much extra weight the steering when parking etc.
@raymondcascella49204 жыл бұрын
Very detail and informative wish there was a RX7s site like this
@funretirementprojects77652 жыл бұрын
I followed your directions. The job came out perfect.
@dennistolbert44695 жыл бұрын
great video, i welded the pinon when i did mine to eliminate the slop thats built in to the pinon. Use steel putty in the holes and add a couple grease zerts close to the pinon
@karroome7 жыл бұрын
thumbs up, very few ppl depower the right way and you sir are one of them, I just wish you mentioned the bit about welding the spool valve in the pinion,,, nice vid.
@brunocostamurta49797 жыл бұрын
technical videos are why i subscribed to this channel
@rydster187 жыл бұрын
Literallly was just about to do this. Makes it easier having a video to walk me through it. Thanks dude!
@Likethetacosauce7 жыл бұрын
1 of the most informative and quality KZfaq channels.
@yp3607 жыл бұрын
glad I watched this. did mine a while ago and just threw everything back on. didn't know I had to torque that tension bolt thing like that..
@ProctorSilex7 жыл бұрын
Deleting PS and welding the pinion in my 02 made me a better driver. Likewise, removing ABS helped me improve braking technique. Some people learn just as well with PS and ABS. YMMV.
@tylerw17742 жыл бұрын
Did it to my rangers rack and pinion. This video taught me what I needed to know lol figured out the rest
@hielkeannema6 жыл бұрын
Removed PS and it is bad ahahah , hopefully this video and a good alignment will make the miata great again, shoutout greg
@triggamusician7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Will be very helpful in the future. My power steering pump is out at the moment and I was wondering how to do it right and how not to dirt up the whole steering rack. I am pretty sure I will come back to this video a couple of times.
@Joshf93.7 жыл бұрын
One of my power steering pipes just split on my mk2 so rather than buy new PAS pipes i'm just gonna de-power the rack so this will definitely come in handy!
@ravynx7 жыл бұрын
Yep, I RTV'd mine as well. Good work. I also had someone weld the pinion in 4 spots since there is slop there as well for the purpose of pushing fluid. I had a 2000 model year which is slightly different than the one you worked on, YMMV.
@jackjetpilot3 жыл бұрын
Update! This video is awesome!
@fpadilla956 жыл бұрын
don't have a Miata but, but I'm gonna do this to my Honda. Super good video man keep it up!!
@GoonChief7 жыл бұрын
dude been so tempted but it is quite tedious glad u made this video it will make it much easier when i go to try it!! u da man
@64reklaw6 жыл бұрын
Reference to the inner tie rod lock washers there is tangs on the inner part of washer that should be located in cut out on shaft otherwise bending washer over on outer circumference if not doing anything.
@icanturn68447 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I am going to try this with a spare rack that I have.
@ipenguin70847 жыл бұрын
more videos like this please. i love watching tutorials
@dangerpudge19227 жыл бұрын
There is supposed to be a weld required. The pinion of the PS rack is two pieces and they twist at different rates as you turn the wheel. The reason this happens is that it acts as a valve being less abruptly actuated in order to build hydraulic pressure in the rack. when you de-power you wind up with sloppy steering due to this flex. Welding the two pieces together eliminates this and sharpens up the steering. For more details consult this page: www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/1709/PageID/2463/Project-Miatabusa-Part-5--De-Powering-the-Steering-Rack.aspx
@Iamdaveable7 жыл бұрын
hell of a tutorial. gonna have to give this a shot now.
@tia11037 жыл бұрын
Very well explained ! Very good video ! Man those miata look so easy to work on, make me want to buy a Miata!!!
@FriedTurkey4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to doing this on mine once I've finally finished the rust repair. I did however make the mistake of sharing this with a non car person. Instant regret "YoU'lL mAkE yOuR cAr WoRtHlEsS!".
@mrskyler443 жыл бұрын
YoU wOnT bE aBle tO DriVe iT
@batsminator7 жыл бұрын
Really nice tutorial Greg. Didn't know this was possible. Doesn't look too hard with these detailed instructions, so might be something I can do to my MX-5. Thanks!
@SilverDanification7 жыл бұрын
awesome info dude! I was going to transfer the manual rack from my donor car as mine is power steering, but now I'll do this instead!
@seannorris1117957 жыл бұрын
I like the more technical videos. Also the studio is great. Keep up with the great videos!
@Kraid077 жыл бұрын
YESSS!!! Awesome video Greg, always wanted to this but feared something might go wrong (it's still my daily), now with your instructions its an easy task! Thank you so much and keep it up! These type of videos are the BEST HNNG
@davisharr7 жыл бұрын
So tempted to try it... Wish I could try out a Miata with it before I do it to mine though
@drealraj7 жыл бұрын
i really like the way you showed everything so well i think i can take on that for myself. thank you sir. i have a mazda B2200 pickup that i am looking to get an update steering on it, this might be it.
@mikespencer99134 жыл бұрын
I am SO going to do this when I do my engine swap this Summer. Can’t wait to tell ppl I rebuilt my Miata with bicycle parts! \o/
@Badger_S1977 жыл бұрын
Weld the pinon dude! Totally worth while your at it and it removes all the slack. Did it recently and loving it.
@TheCarPassionChannel7 жыл бұрын
I thought about it, I've driven racks with and without and I can't tell too much of a difference. If it becomes noticeable on this car I will definitely have it done.
@Badger_S1977 жыл бұрын
If you ever do so, it would be cool to do before after comparison. Moto-IQ has a video on their page that shows how much slack the pinion got. Btw. I like the solution with the silicone sealant. Some of those bolts are impossible to get and the sold kits are fairly pricey.
@TheCarPassionChannel7 жыл бұрын
Ohh so the slack builds over time? Maybe the ones I've driven just haven't free'd up yet?
@Badger_S1977 жыл бұрын
There is still some tension regardless. I can totally see that this would barely be notable at street driving. For the track it better be crisp :) Check out this one: vimeo.com/15245486 www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/1709/PageID/2463/Project-Miatabusa-Part-5--De-Powering-the-Steering-Rack.aspx
@ianm4327 жыл бұрын
The torsion bar in the pinion is what lets the hydraulic pressure flow. When you turn the wheel the torsion twists slightly without the pinion turning which effectively opens a valve to let hydraulic pressure flow into one side of the rack. Then you stop turning the pinion, the rack catches up with the torsion bar on the pinion from hydraulic pressure and closes the valve. So imagine without the hydraulic pressure to catch up with the torsion bar all you're doing is overcoming the torsion spring pressure before the rack moves.
@cameronprice60007 жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned the dorifto washers for mad skids yo 👍
@joenichols96667 жыл бұрын
great vid. trying this on a camaro build
@TheDatsunZX7 жыл бұрын
I don't have a Miata but that was a really well explained video!
@HiroshimaSpirit7 жыл бұрын
Yet another great video, man. Once I have another NA in the future, I'll be turning to much of your info first. Thanks!
@grahamcrane832 жыл бұрын
Just did this today. Guide really helpful , as always.
@JC2SLO Жыл бұрын
Good video to this day!
@derfernerf7 жыл бұрын
Such a good video! May tackle this over winter!
@feliperivad7 жыл бұрын
love the technical videos. Have helped on just about everything i've done to my car
@thatniceguynick4 жыл бұрын
Another way to close off the open power steering lines is to put the lines back in place and cut them with a pair of diagonal cutters. The pinch of the diagonal cutters is powerful enough to seal them Right before they cut.
@Peppermint13 жыл бұрын
Well done. Watching this because my rack started sweating at the top rack seal. Only remark for the video, if the rack was designed for synthetic fluid, the end seals may not resist well to the petroleum based grease, may swell and make turning harder after a while. De-assisted steering feeling will also come down to the rack gear 'ratio', manual cars from factory had a different ratio than on assisted ones. Also, guess you need a shorter belt to bypass the pump while there, better not run a pump dry for too long
@Chris_Drifts2 жыл бұрын
The power steering belt doesn't run any other ancillaries, so simply remove the belt entirely. Unless your car has AC, in which case, yes shorter belt or just remove AC 🤣
@ajcox1319917 жыл бұрын
When tapping on a crescent wrench, it's good practice to use it in the right direction ;)
@rubengarcia8577 жыл бұрын
Man you've been such a big help for me. I'm doing this today and hopefully I'll get it right lol jkjk but I like how detailed you are brother
@MendicantBias14 жыл бұрын
I added a NOS kit to my steering rack. So much fast steering!
@schwannman42027 жыл бұрын
Great video! By far the best de power video on KZfaq. 👌🏼
@adamfergusson17 жыл бұрын
That's a cracking video dude, doing it now with a bud of mine
@joshuacraven43507 жыл бұрын
Greg, Can you explain WHY you chose to not weld the pinion and delete the spool/rotary valve? Also, I am one of those guys that will always recommend replacing cheap hardware like the retaining washers on the ends of the tie rods. I am sure you've heard horror stories of these things coming loose on a track at 100mph, but I would think that even though your viewers don't necessarily track their vehicles, they do expect to get longevity out of their mods. That being said, at $1 a piece, there's no excuse not to replace them. Great video series in the making. I loved broke and boosted, but I am enjoying watching you join the forged club. It's a good time. Cheers! -Josh
@Spone857 жыл бұрын
i'd pause at 0:00 to bufer the video and... greg OMG who's your dealer :P lol keep the good work going :]
@CJrekrap5 жыл бұрын
lol
@EvanNoriega7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I really enjoy handling mods like this
@Encom07 жыл бұрын
Useful vid, a lot more informative than most others on the subject 👍