ROLEX SUBMARINER OR ROLEX GMT MASTER 2

ROLEX SUBMARINER OR ROLEX GMT MASTER 2 | WHICH TO PICK?

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In this video your host discusses the horological merits of the Rolex Submariner and the Rolex GMT Master II.
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@the_shadow_realm5110 4 ай бұрын

The GMT is worn by the chap, the worldly gent and dapper businessman. He is happily married, and a dutiful father. He gives to his community and he is liked by all. The Submariner is worn by his wife’s boyfriend.

@Macm73 4 ай бұрын

😂

@michaelgibson4705 4 ай бұрын

A Rotter’s watch 😂

@PhilbyFavourites 3 ай бұрын

Marvellous sir - Terry Thomas would have worn a GMT Master ll George Cole in Minder would have worn worn a Submariner and Terry would have worn a G-Shock

@jfdomega7938 3 ай бұрын

Don't tell me? You own the GMT! 😂

@the_shadow_realm5110 3 ай бұрын

@@jfdomega7938 That’s right! And I bought the Submariner for him for his dutiful services!! When I get home from work, her hair may be a mess, her lipstick smudged, and she may smell like Creed aftershave (which I don’t own), but it makes my life easier knowing she’s too tired to talk/complain. I’m a simple man. All I want is a hot meal and some peace and quiet. Luckily for my wife and I, Tyronne is the best pool boy we’ve ever had! He pulls into our driveway on his motorcycle every morning as I’m leaving for work with a big smile on his face.

@kamelthorn 4 ай бұрын

As pilot, I bought my first Rolex GMT master 2 (Coke) in 1998, I wore the watch continuously for 18 years, never being let down! I saw the Batman and fell in love the the blue and black, being more representative of day and night and popped into the AD here in Qatar. I walked out with the Batman and it’s been a daily wearer since, it also lead me down the rabbit hole of watch collecting, where will it stop 😅 thanks for the video….

@petrolhead007 3 ай бұрын

What did the AD in Qatar make you do to get the Batman, like buying other watches or jewellery? If you don't mind sharing.

@kamelthorn 2 ай бұрын

@@petrolhead007 The AD had the watch in the display cabinet, and they let me buy it, without any questions. At that time the Batman and the whole stainless spots model madness had not yet reached Qatar.

@mattd-p9720 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for describing the function of the GMT so clearly Ash. I was struggling to visualize how this complication works but you have illuminated the matter for me. Smashing video 👌

@AutobahnVault 3 ай бұрын

Love my 2004 two-tone, black dial Sub. Use it daily while on the water, working cars/bikes, driving race cars or at the office.

@MrHav1k 4 ай бұрын

I agree!!! I also love how the Sub has more two tone combinations.

@jethrojacinto2798 4 ай бұрын

From someone who's had both watches (126710BLRO and the 124060) I decided to sell my Submariner only because the GMT Master offers so much more - beautiful iconic bezel, date and GMT function, can be dressed up and down if you have it on the jubilee, bezel can be used to time like the Sub. I'm genuinely shocked you went with the Sub especially with everything you've said against it like how it's the most replicated watch in the world.

@Nmh2el 4 ай бұрын

The GMT just doesn’t make sense in a small collection, nor in a single watch collection. It’s way too blingy as a single watch collection, yet it tries to cover way too many areas without excelling in any in a small watch collection. People try to treat the GMT as an industrial tool watch one day, and as a dress watch the other. Even at msrp you could basically get a new 124060 and a SBGW231 at grey, and cover both the need for a tool and dress watch much better.

@MD-qp8gj 3 ай бұрын

I have the Sub because its more subtle.

@WaterJake 3 ай бұрын

It excels as a GMT, which obviously the Submariner does not. If you want a GMT, then the decision is clear. If not, then it's up for debate.

@whereRbearsTeeth 3 ай бұрын

Sub over GMT all day long. The glidelock clasp is a huge upgrade over the GMT clasp.

@williamumbach592 3 ай бұрын

If you want to move the GMT Bezel you can track 24 time zones.

@Greggieboy76 3 ай бұрын

Loved the vid - thanks for the great content!

@justinehayward2553 4 ай бұрын

The Explorer 2. Well, that's the choice of a 56-year-old adventurer who is often on the road. The submariner is commonly worn by many here in Hong Kong, my base, and by quite a few ladies too. When on and underwater, it's the Omega Planet Ocean chronograph.

@jimlittle5769 3 ай бұрын

Last Year my Polar Exp II was my most worn watch. Worn more than my second and third most worn watches combined. I wore the Polar roughly 25% of the year.

@stephan3500 3 ай бұрын

exactly the same here, in Germany, an Ex II plus a Planet Ocean and some Speedy :-) Greetings to HK!

@justinehayward2553 3 ай бұрын

@@stephan3500 All the best Stephan.

@allan1302 3 ай бұрын

A great video, thank you for taking the time to put it together for us! I always enjoy your content. I would go sub; the classic Rolex look and can never go wrong with one.

@Twangstarr 4 ай бұрын

Woohoo Ash you’ve read my mind. I’m about to be offered a green sub within the next year so this is very pertinent

@sebastiengissler3554 4 ай бұрын

My Favorit is still the Explorer I.

@whereRbearsTeeth 3 ай бұрын

I have the 39 explorer and the 41 submariner. If I could only keep one it would without a doubt be the Explorer.

@WrongTimeWatch 3 ай бұрын

@@whereRbearsTeeth I have both now as well. I am curious why you would keep the explorer over the submariner? I think I would go the other way.

@whereRbearsTeeth 3 ай бұрын

@@WrongTimeWatch I find the Explorer to be far more balanced and overall more comfortable to wear on wrist. Also, it’s more versatile than the submariner. It can be dressed up or dressed down easily. The submariner is an all out sports watch aesthetic. Finally, the Explorer is just more low key. Outside of watch enthusiasts, nobody even knows you’re wearing a Rolex. The sub on the other hand screams Rolex. The one and only thing I prefer about the submariner is the glidelock clasp. The easy link on the Explorer is basically useless.

@jdwxflyer 3 ай бұрын

My Explorer is just ‘right’. But I still long for the GMT Master II, 5-digit of course!

@edo7052 4 ай бұрын

I owned the same Submariner you’ve presented here Ash. Personally found it a bit uncomfortable to wear. I sold it and now wear a Speedmaster Professional which I’m very happy with.

@nash9625 3 ай бұрын

Speedy for the win! I have a decent collection but the sub is no longer in it, Speedy stays forever.

@nash9625 16 күн бұрын

@@SaintWill70 my comment wasn't a knock to the sub but an encouragement to the first commenter on his decision towards the Speedy. Rolex makes incredible bracelets, extremely comfortable. I work in the space industry so that's why I'll always have a speedmaster in the collection. Which ref do you have? I haven't owned the 124060 so I'm curious if it wears better overall than the 11

@roelvandenbergen611 4 ай бұрын

I understand your reasoning dear Sir, my main watch is a Pelagos (two liner) and i use the bezel daily. I find it is an excellent compagnion in life and am sure the sub will give the same for most. Thanks for all your content.

@brunom6153 4 ай бұрын

You are a Star! Big hug from Portugal!

@wristcouture 3 ай бұрын

The variety of color options and bracelet choices is impressive

@peterspring895 3 ай бұрын

Hello Mr Chap! I'm a Brit' living in Virginia, USA. I have the Pepsi GMT Master II, with Jubilee bracelet and the Black on Black GMT Master II - with the Oyster bracelet. The last one is constantly mistaken for the Sub. While the 300m depth of the Sub is fantastic, the 100m depth of the GMT is way more than sufficient for a normal person's use. To be honest, the Black on Black can be worn in more situations than the Pepsi. It's just more subtle. Thank you for your channel. I miss the British accent over here! Peter

@zockerplay3314 3 ай бұрын

Cant wait to get my Submariner. For me its probably the design. Its like a Porsche 911 just absolutely timeless.

@Willfindeww 3 ай бұрын

Just got a GMT 2 in November and absolutely love it. Root beer version via a land deal here in NC. Went to an AD recently and got on a list for a sub but was told I have to wait…something about not allowed to get another iconic one within a year. Hope you get yours soon as well as that 911.

@DigitalJunior2003 4 ай бұрын

It was great to meet you in Thursday night in London. I visited every Rolex dealer I could whilst in London but only all gold pieces available 😂

@TheChapsGuide 4 ай бұрын

Hello sir, pleasure to have made your acquaintance in the last week. Rolex will always be in short supply for steel pieces, but keep the faith and keep looking!

@DigitalJunior2003 3 ай бұрын

@@TheChapsGuide and will definitely be looking for clothes on EBay as nothing on Kings Road Chelsea!

@deskdiversthlm 3 ай бұрын

Great video. I think the watch and choice is what you make out of it. To me both the GMT or Submariner pre-ceramic gives that right feeling.

@cjmcaulay 4 ай бұрын

Breitling Chronomat GMT: 200m, date, gmt, lume pip bezel (bidirectional 3rd time zone or unidirectional diver), chronograph, and you can retrofit the bracelet to have an adjustable clasp. It’s a bit bigger, sure (for some, that’s a plus), but it combines the functions of a Sub, a GMT Master, and a Daytona into one. My “collection in one” if I had to get rid of the rest.

@chunkychinn 4 ай бұрын

Excellent. Love Breitling. Can't say I have much time for Rolex watches far to small for me.44mm upwards and I'll have one eye open 48 probably 50 and above definately. Terrible getting old and can't see small watches anymore abd I lije to feel something on my wrist. Favourite day to day is Invicta very robust, two time zones day and date and a range of colours to suit. But great video Ash thankyou, nice vack yard as well. Which Park did you set up your stall in?😂😂😂😂

@michaelriera6277 3 ай бұрын

Fantastic Breitling!

@Shogunsen 4 ай бұрын

Great video again and thank you for this cool comparison. I’m a few steps ahead trying to get on a list from my local AD since these models are incredibly sought after. In this process I had the same feelings about the Sub that you are expressing. On the other hand, the Sub is the watch everyone knows and the entry Rolex for all young consultants I know that just want to brag and are not really into watches. This is why I will probably try to get my hands on a GMT Batgirl since it has a great heritage as well, is not the Pepsi, has a useful complication and is at least one step above entry consultant watch. So far my argumentation for myself. Problem: the market says I won’t get either and sit at Omega in a few month. Greetings from Austria/Germany.

@aalabbasi 3 ай бұрын

I bought my sub in 2005 when I was 32. It's a TT blue face watch. I wanted to buy another a couple of years ago and was met with an obnoxious salesman at Heathrow airport that put me off. Maybe in the future.

@budg8522 3 ай бұрын

Owning a Batgirl GMT2, Fluted bezel blue Datejust 2 and a Panda Daytona, I opted for the Submariner’s poor cousin…the Pelagos 39 for a couple of reasons. The Sub is heavier…the Tudor in titanium less so. The Sub is comfortable…the Tudor a bit more so. The Sub is a bit trickier to acquire…the Tudor a bit less so. The only downside is the lume on the Tudor’s minute hand is more a concept than a reality…whereas the Sub’s lume is flawless and sun-surface bright for a considerable number or dark hours. Lovely comparison and yours is very high quality work sir…as is consistently the case. Cheero.

@PhilbyFavourites 3 ай бұрын

Do you really need, or use, the lume in today’s illuminated world. About as much used as the Seamaster Diver 300’s helium escape valve….

@MikoTheTomCat 26 күн бұрын

Same here mate. After owning the 41 sub date as a Daily for almost 2 years I now wear the Pelagos 39. Much more comfortable and wearable! Only thing I really miss is the date function:(

@lupino1414 3 ай бұрын

I agree. My first Rolex was a Sub in 1978. I got a job which required a suit a couple of years later and traded for a Datejust. Fast forward 40 years later and I got a new ceramic Sub. Love it. I got the call from an AD on the Batman and picked it up. Fantastic watch but ultimately I got rid of it. I’m seldom traveling through international time zones any more so don’t need the GMT function. I’m not a fan of the cyclops, I love the glide lock oyster. I love the non PCL Oyster. The GMT is a dressier watch and I’m not that guy anymore. I’m more often in remote locales getting dirty. I have to agree with the Chap!

@philw4053 4 ай бұрын

I've owned both (although my sub is the ceramic date model). I was lucky to get both at retail but sold the pepsi when they hit £20k (a ridiculous price for that watch). I don't miss the pepsi - it was too "showy" and I was always very self conscious when I wore it. Now a vintage GMT pepsi (or preferably coke)? That might be the forever watch for me.

@cdeaker 4 ай бұрын

The Rolex dealer experience has taken the fun out of Rolex ownership for me. I went into an AD to put my name down on “the waitlist”, I popped in 5 months later only to find they hadn’t recorded my interest, they then made sure I was on the list: that was about 2 years ago, so that’s nearly 2.5 years (and counting) waiting to be able to purchase an entry level Oyster Perpetual 36 black. The last time I was in an AD, the assistant was surly & condescending, so the brand & their ADs aren’t really living up to the luxury purchasing experience.

@TheChapsGuide 4 ай бұрын

They really do themselves no favours with their haughty attitudes.

@usmanshahid8277 3 ай бұрын

I would go to a different dealer. Some ADs will help you same day. I was waiting with an AD and literally following up once every three months - decided to just try another and I got the piece within a month. I checked on Reddit they did a poll asking people how long it took them to get their watch - something like half the people said within the month the other half over a year.

@lettuce1305 3 ай бұрын

2.5 years for a black dial OP36? You should just go to another AD. Black/Silver dial OPs are typically the watch that the AD still gives a chance to buy for first time customers. The black dial OP36 is nice but it's not as in demand as Subs and GMTs or even other colored dials OPs.

@cdeaker 3 ай бұрын

@@lettuce1305 I tried another AD 2 years ago: nothing from them either 🤷‍♂️

@cdeaker 3 ай бұрын

@@lettuce1305 I also put myself on another ADs waitlist 2 years ago - no news from them either 🤷‍♂️

@Anonymouslyme1 4 ай бұрын

Flying to Tenerife for a week tomorrow and had to choose a watch from my collection of Rolex & Tudor pieces. Grabbed my black Sub Date as I usually do for holidays it’s just such a great all rounder.

@Anonymouslyme1 16 күн бұрын

@@SaintWill70 I’ve worn a Rolex to Tenerife many times and never had an issue

@Buffmafia84 3 ай бұрын

Ironically of my 3 watch collection (was wildly hard to narrow down) I find myself with a 41 Sub date, Batman GMT , and IWC Portuguiser. Great video and comparison!

@TubeYouDSilvy Ай бұрын

Which Portuguiser? I love the classic automatic - but they are all beautiful. You have very nice taste.

@Buffmafia84 Ай бұрын

@@TubeYouDSilvy the IW500705 Automatic

@TubeYouDSilvy Ай бұрын

@@Buffmafia84you, sir - have excellent taste! I believe that is the exact one I’ve been eying for a while.

@Crazy_Joe_Davola 4 ай бұрын

I admit your answer surprised me. I own two subs, an early 90s Bluesy and a current LV bezel mk2. I still have yet to get my grubby hands on any GMT. The search goes ever on... 🍻

@Coolguy24686 4 ай бұрын

Finally another Rolex video! Good work!

@tedg.8026 3 ай бұрын

Greetings from Washington D.C!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸Great video as always! Chad. It’s tough to choose between those two great timepieces. It’s like asking who’s your favorite child? lol I agree that I would choose Sub as well. I do have a Sub Starbucks (Green lover).

@ikinc507 4 ай бұрын

Great video as always Ash. I think you overlooked the Submariner’s functionality to measure elapsed time. I would hazard a guess that this is more useful to most members of society-not to time dive duration more to assist with cooking, parking etc…

@thehunt226 4 ай бұрын

Great comparison, as usually. As it´s Roley way, we´ll never understand why they refuse to add a "on the fly" adjustment to all their watsches, a shame really....

@markcassels8654 4 ай бұрын

I think you liked the older sub because the five digit Rolexes have aluminium bezels. I think the ceramic is too flashy. The masculine choice is the aluminum bezel five digit watches. 16710 (Coke) for me.

@jeepn392 3 ай бұрын

Have both and love them both. If I had to choose only one it would be the pre-ceramic Sub date. Love the subdued brushed bracelet on the Submariner.

@comeonman7423 2 ай бұрын

Love this, have to agree you can’t go wrong with either.. I think I’ll have both 👌🏽

@canalwest 4 ай бұрын

None. I would say the Rolex Explorer Ref. 124270, 36mm is a better option. It slides under the cuff, has a timeless design and can adapt to several occasions.

@jonathansmith283 4 ай бұрын

good day sir- I am lucky enough to have : a sub date & a 'batgirl' . I like the gmt batgirl , but the sub date is the daily wear rolex for myself - both from an AD ( two separate AD's ). be safe . ~. JDS/CT.

@georgiosdedes 3 ай бұрын

Fully agree with your conclusions. Both desirable for all the right reasons, have them both although my Sub is newer, ceramic with date function. For me the glide lock system is something I could not live without due to change in temperatures and humidity having a life travelling between north and south Europe. Nevertheless, I love my GMT Pepsi but I would never part with my steel black dial Sub date ceramic.

@Bjartone 4 ай бұрын

How about wearing those professional range Rolex watches with a shirt? Will they slip under the cuff? Will the rotating bezels prematurely fray the cuffs?

@lesliesmith4846 3 ай бұрын

Forgive me Ash if I missed it, but I didn't hear you mention a major (IMO) feature that the GMT possesses that is absent on the Sub, and that is the 'jumping hour hand'. This is a deal breaker for me in favour of the GMT as it is so convenient to be able to change the hour hand without disturbing the minute hand which of course means resetting the time. I want function over looks and for that reason it's the GMT for me.

@user-do3rm1yu1p 3 ай бұрын

I own both of those except my Pepsi is on an oyster. Such an interesting comparison and I’m not surprised at your decision however I disagree that the Pepsi is less rugged I think they’re both take-anywhere watches. If I had to keep one it’d be the sub and ONLY because of the glide lock clasp it really does make the watch fit perfectly all the time which is so important for me especially as it’s quite a chunky watch and I’ve got thin wrists.

@EllisDavidRees 3 ай бұрын

100% agree on your choice.

@jpwphotographicstudio3891 3 ай бұрын

I used to use my 16710 GMT2 for diving only sport diving 20 -30m on holidays. I had the choice of the Sub, Sea-dweller and Daytona in 1989 from memory none of them at the time was a month's wage. I had the Coke bezel changed for black about 2000 ish still though have the original bezel. My dad had a Rolex Sub, as a child never seemed anything special remember though in the 70s divers watches the in thing and, I often used to wear it for school...😂

@Thomas-vq5pb 4 ай бұрын

Will you do a video on your personal watch journey? You've hinted at regretting some Rolex purchases, and possibly like the JLC reverso? Would be interesting to know how you plan on managing your collection going forward. Many thanks!

@TheChapsGuide 4 ай бұрын

It's in the works, coming soon.

@waynesilva3129 3 ай бұрын

I’m 72 yrs. Old and have been wearing a Pepsi since October 1967. I have a 2022 Pepsi and a 2022 sub. For me it’s the GMT. The GMT does everything the sub does. I lap swim five days a week with my GMT. Rolex’s are VERY waterproof weather it’s a day date or the other 100 meter watches. For me the sub is very boring next to my GMT. Even my All black bezel GMT is more tasteful than my sub. Soon as my AD rings me that a Daytona came in. The sub is gone. The best watch on your wrist is one that runs.

@peterwilliams6188 3 ай бұрын

Rock on Ash, I’ve just registered my interest in a Submariner with my AD. Just gotta wait and save up.

@leekindell9937 3 ай бұрын

Both great. Although the sub is like the bmw 3 series of watches. Really common everyone has them but they are good. I do have sub no date but mine a vintage now 24 year old. I have a batgirl and a black ceramic Daytona. I do mix them all up. I admit I do love the fully brushed oyster strap on subs more than any other straps Rolex do

@thormusique 4 ай бұрын

Wonderful video, Ash! Beautiful watches but both well beyond my means. On the other hand, I love your navy pea coat and would love to know your recommendation for finding a proper pea coat. There are so many out there that are sub-par (and I've had some of them). I'd certainly be willing to pay a bit extra for a properly made version of this coat. Cheers!

@ron74555 4 ай бұрын

Ted Baker pea coat...any model before the one they released last winter. Avoid the Billy Reid bond pea coat....it's terrible quality.

@TheChapsGuide 4 ай бұрын

Mine is a US Navy surplus pea coat. £25 on eBay.

@thormusique 4 ай бұрын

@@TheChapsGuide Seriously?! That's a terrific deal, certainly. The best ones I've had have all been navy surplus. The only 'fashion' brand I've had that was any good was an old Ralph Lauren, which cost about 10x the price of a fine surplus one. Cheers! 🙂

@steves8322 3 ай бұрын

Definitely need both…they wear completely different and I love them both

@1114gabby 3 ай бұрын

Both beautiful watches. I would probably choose the sub. They are a bit cost prohibitive for many of us and although I could buy one it would be quite a stretch. Currently I have a Tag Heur and an Omega 300 Professional. Still I look at watches all the time!

@resjon7981 4 ай бұрын

If one can afford it I'd definitely keep both. Hard to choose just one. The GMT for sunny days and the Subby for the evenings.

@VicFlange 4 ай бұрын

Ash, have you seen the Omega Seamaster Worldtimer? That’s a beautiful piece. Ever thought about putting your Submariner on a rubber Everest strap?

@JasonMilner 3 ай бұрын

Interesting decision. As a sub owner, I suspected you'd go for the GMT - but maybe that's because we always want what we have not got? I guess the ideal solution is to own both :)

@mrd.cooper5481 4 ай бұрын

I totally agree. I have owned both but felt the GMT was a bit July the 4th . I Also brought a black Daytona but I find all Daytona's look better in photos them on the wrist they just don't pop .so the only Rolex for me is the Submariner.

@gtcih 3 ай бұрын

I was lucky enough to recently acquire a new Rolex Sea-Dweller 43mm from an AD. If I had to choose one watch from either my Omega Planet Ocean, Doxa 1500T or Sea-Dweller, I would choose the Omega. That watch is eye candy followed by the Doxa.

@TheChapsGuide 3 ай бұрын

Wow. You must be a really accomplished deep sea diver with that collection?

@sachinl611 2 ай бұрын

Both are iconic wristwatches.. fortunately I own both of them. But there is something about the sub which draws my inclination towards it more than my GMT or even my daydate RG CD with diamonds. One watch for your entire life . No doubt about that.

@RoryMacdonald-pfff 4 ай бұрын

No-date sub - it’s all-time. Though the current retail price is bonkers.

@georgeleeds7539 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@TheChapsGuide 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the support sir - much appreciated

@Jonathan-Incognito 4 ай бұрын

I have both. Glidelock is literally SO superior to the adjustments on the BLRO. I always feel like I am a half size wrong on my Pepsi and the Sub is perfect, ALL the time. I know the GMT is worth double, but until its got glidelock(like the new oyster flex Daytonas do now) it’s just inferior to wear, im sorry.

@TheChapsGuide 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree!!

@rdero4 4 ай бұрын

Agree 100%

@entrepreneurinbusiness1031 3 ай бұрын

Love your feed - but confused as you always say u love the smaller datejust

@jimlittle5769 3 ай бұрын

Very easy choice. GMT Master II. I was offered a Submariner by my local AD (who after a year of trying to get a specific watch, I gave up completely trying to buy anything from there). In this case, I came in just after a customer declined the Submariner he had ordered. The sales associate that worked at the AD offered it to me. I had never asked for one nor shown any interest. I politely thanked him and then declined. His look was priceless. That was 2021. That year I got a Batman on jubilee from one AD and in 2022 got a Pepsi on jubilee from another. It was a fun and expensive couple years.

@Kaitios 3 ай бұрын

I'm hoping at Watches and Wonders they release the Root Beer on a Jubilee bracelet. I'm going to get the Root Beer after April even if it remains on the Oyster! It's a beautiful watch, and I can't wait to make it my very first luxury watch purchase. It's going to memorialize the first 2.5 years of my successful business, and also to celebrate the birth of my son come June.

@TriforceRich 4 ай бұрын

I’ve owned both and now I just own the Sub. The bezel is much more useful on a daily basis, I think the case is nicer (41mm Sub), more comfortable, and glidelock. The Pepsi is cool because you get the color and it’s a lot rarer in the wild but I have a white gold Sub, so I get my color and almost no one owns it.

@crimclay1077 Ай бұрын

I go gmt for my lifestyle but understand someone choosing sub. It’s also a little more versatile with the colors.

@DanSchrimpsher 4 ай бұрын

Speedmaster. Everyday and twice on Sunday.

@desireless4092 4 ай бұрын

I own both. The 3861 Sapphire and the 124060. The bracelet of the Sub is untouchable compared to the one my Speedy came with. And let's not talk about the excuse of a clasp Omega chose to put on. Only one micro adjust and safe but the style of the clasp itself, I am not over the moon about it (no pun intended). The Speedy itself is awesome, but came with out of the box defect I am trying to resolve with my warranty.

@dees9502 3 ай бұрын

I sold my Speedy last year. Never wore it. What’s the point of a chronograph if it’s never used?

@DanSchrimpsher 3 ай бұрын

Chronograph sonograph. It's about the moon landing on the back 😊

@desireless4092 3 ай бұрын

@@DanSchrimpsher sure, all about the show and no substance

@DanSchrimpsher 3 ай бұрын

@@desireless4092 That's an interesting take. I would say its all about the history. I live and work with NASA as an engineer and space stuff has a place in my heart. I love watches (I am currently looking at a Breitling Navitimer 36 (pistachio) which is more my style in watches than either Rolex).

@paulhammal7231 3 ай бұрын

A great dilemma 😊 Nice you’ve got a Pepsi. They’re like rocking horse poo right now and used prices reflect this. I’ve just bought a JC Deepsea. Love it- getting loads of wrist time 😃👍

@ronaldpoppe3774 4 ай бұрын

Ash the sub would be my choice as well although i would prefer the 36mm Explorer. Cheers Ron

@TheChapsGuide 4 ай бұрын

The Explorer is a much better option in my opinion.

@kumadoken 3 ай бұрын

40mm is the best sub to get hands down.... 41 is really to big for this watch. GMT master 2 Pepsi is the best watch to get on grey market right now hands down. As to be honest they have already been discontinued. These 2 rolex are the only 2 watch anyone needs to have in their collection don't waste money buying watches yr AD is tempting you. You only can sell them at a lost as these 2 watches are the only ones going up on the watch index. End of! Also dont wear either of these in London especially the pepsi!

@wristopia4101 Ай бұрын

The new Submariner being 41/21mm kind of changes the dynamic a bit IMO. Also availiable without cyclops is a big bonus. I will feel sick when the Batman catches up to these dimensions 😭

@italianstallion3130 Ай бұрын

The GMT MII and Daytona are the two Rolex’s I long for but I’ve never felt that way about the Submariner. To me it’s always been the Rolex that my friends and colleagues who know nothing about watches seem to have. For a dive watch I just really prefer the Seamaster.

@florianschaefer2527 4 ай бұрын

If you ever really fell in love with either one of these watches, it is a keeper. For me, I bought my Submariner right after I finished my studies and working at the local supermarket. Also this watch has been present on my wedding day and the birth of both of my children. That is a long way to go for any other watch, be it Rolex, Omega, Moser or any other brand

@TrumanBurbankFE 4 ай бұрын

First-time buyers tend to go for a Sub, as common people all know about it, while collectors always will vote for a Pepsi.

@MLacewell85 3 ай бұрын

Ash, one thing I haven’t heard mentioned is the cost of upkeep on an automatic watch. I wouldn’t suggest wearing a watch of this caliber in the water unless it is less than 5 years since its last service. With this comes the cost, I just had my submariner serviced at a cost of $1000. Mine was in good condition and they only replaced the main spring and seals along with the teardown and cleaning. If water gets into the movement, the cost for repair can be more than the watch is worth.

@TheChapsGuide 3 ай бұрын

A good point.

@Leo-gh7nz 3 ай бұрын

I own both as well (41mm Sub and BLNR) and I would actually say the GMT has better tool watch bonafides. An airline literally asked Rolex to develop the watch for their pilots and worked together with them to do so. That's about as tool-y as it gets. I'm also surprised by how few of the GMT I see out in the wild, while I see the Sub all the time. Of course the flip side to that is the GMT is a watch that stands out a lot more and is a lot more noticeable, which might not be ideal. Having said that, I would agree with you that I'd take the Sub if I had to choose one. The glidelock makes it easier to dial in a perfect fit whenever and wherever I am. And I like the fact that it blends in more, makes me less self-conscious about wearing it. It kinda disappears on my wrist. And because they sized it up a bit (esp the bracelet) with the 41mm, it just feels like a tougher and more durable watch.

@johnbrock6248 3 ай бұрын

My Batman is my daily watch. It’s great! A bit more understated than the Pepsi. A little classier, I think. I also have the Sprite which is quite whimsical and one you don’t see often. I opted for the Sea Dweller over the Sub because it’s like the Sub on steroids. Great watch.

@hemtet5500 3 ай бұрын

I still don’t know which is which but that probably won’t be much of a concern if I’m honest.

@EssexJames65 3 ай бұрын

A potentially controversial opinion, but I don't think Rolexes are gentlemen's watches at all. In my mind they're for used car dealers and other spivs. How about a subtle JLC, Patek if the budget runs to it, an older Omega, Longines, Grand Seiko, or a British-made (Swiss movement) Bremont. In general, I consider straps to be preferable to bracelets as found on the Tudor I'm wearing right now.

@spsmith1965 4 ай бұрын

I happen to be picking up my Rolex Sub today. But plan to get a GMT2 as well.

@Ben-yw8be 4 ай бұрын

I’d pick the GMT Master II. It has more utility. You can dive with it as well. Although if I was to keep one, I wouldn’t keep any of them. I would actually get the Rolex Oyster Perpetual. I like how simple that watch is. That watch’s design is also timeless.

@jimf7654 3 ай бұрын

The Sub has that James Bond kind of vibe…I totally agree👍

@unclejonga 3 ай бұрын

GMT all day long. The modern GMT offers everything & walks all over the Submariner. Bracelet options, nicer looking & above all offers true functionality that the Sub cannot touch. Plus it has the same trip lock crown that the Sub has & has all the water resistance you’d ever need.

@mefirst1211 2 ай бұрын

I got my GMT in 1983 from Kuwait for $800 😃and I still use it daily , don't need another Rolex

@nikolastojanov8749 4 ай бұрын

For some reason I always thought these watches with a rotating bezel dont really fit with sartorial lifestyle and formal clothes at all. It always reminded me of wearing rugged chunky combat boots on a nice soft suit

@ron74555 4 ай бұрын

As someone who owns several Rolex yet likes to dress well, I have to agree with you. I think the air king and explorer look much more appropriate and classy than those with rotating bezels.

@riccardotrevisiol6901 3 ай бұрын

The GMT fixture is essential for my life style. It is my everyday watch. The Submariner is a gorgeous watch, I have a vintage 1965 James Bond which I use in special occasions.

@suds782 4 ай бұрын

We youngsters can get none of these to buy .. so pick an omega / Cartier and enjoy 😅😂. Grand seiko are beautiful in person and so are longines watches .

@adamg393 4 ай бұрын

The Sub goes with anything your wearing but I prefer the date

@michaelriera6277 3 ай бұрын

Same here. Something very special about the cyclops.

@ROKuberski 3 ай бұрын

Nice video, but your conclusion is wrong. They both are great watches, but as you note, I'm not diving 300 meters, but I do cross time zones. As to looks, mine is the GMT Master II, stainless/gold, 16713. While the colored bezels are okay, the black and gold really pops. Look for me at Heathrow June 16th, I will be in the line going through customs with my GMT hand set on Mountain Daylight Time and the hour hand set on GMT.

@motownbaby6146 3 ай бұрын

The Submariner date is at the top of my wishlist, but I oh so love that pepsi on the Jubilee bracelet.

@TheChapsGuide 3 ай бұрын

It is a sweet wrist ride. But the Sub has a majesty that the GMT lacks (IMHO)

@DerHerthaner 4 ай бұрын

Well, owning a SUB Date I've tried a very long time getting a Pepsi for a reasonable price. I was not successful. But imagine someone out of this world would have asked me if I wanna keep my SUB or maybe gonna change it to a GMT Master II for the rest of my life: I WOULD HAVE TOLD HIM: Go with your GMT Master whereever you want to, MY SUB WILL STAY RIGHT BY MY SIDE FOREVER!

@cookingwithwatches 4 ай бұрын

I used to be a Sub guy. Now I lean more towards GMT

@hypnotoads 4 ай бұрын

To my mind it's a hard pass on both. I would go for the original Omega Planet Ocean 2500D and spend the change on a couple of nice suits!

@05Rudey 4 ай бұрын

I don't own a Rolex, only ever held one in my hands for a few seconds - delicately like a new born baby, as I have never held anything that expensive in my life. That was a brand new Submariner belonging to my brother in law. I nearly got one about 3 years back, I saved up for a 36mm Explorer for a number of years putting a little aside a month (I prefer to save up, take my time, i dunno it just feels better when you have worked and saved for something, it gives it more value imho) but I bottled it at the last second in favour of 3 other watches (Squale 1521 50 Atmos, Omega Speedmaster 39mm automatic version, Cartier Tank ) My thinking at the time was that I wanted a Casual, Smart Casual and a Formal watch, but not a day has gone by that I wished I just got the Explorer now, maybe later on. Picking out of these two? I prefer the Submariner. It's one of the most iconic watches ever made imho.

@lonewolfemcquade8133 3 ай бұрын

Back in 2003 I went with the Rolex Submariner 14060m and followed it up with a Rolex Explorer 114270 in 2007. They been faithful companions since. Not really into Rolex modern offerings though

@phmwu7368 4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately modern Rolex, like almost each & every modern day watch brand, have become too much bling bling "variations" 🥲The classic 36 mm Rolex Explorer being an exception. In the toolwatches era, both the Rolex Submariner and the Rolex GMT-master have been worn by astronauts in space, the GMT-master 1675 even on the lunar surface (Apollo 14 Edgar Mitchell). About 20 Apollo era astronauts owned a Rolex GMT-master "Pepsi", Aldrin, Borman, Cernan, Collins, Engle, Evans, Glenn, Lovell, Michell, Roosa, Schirra, Worden, etc... #MoonwatchUniverse

@FA-RACE-TEAM 3 ай бұрын

Agreed

@ragetobe 3 ай бұрын

I sold my GMT because the 126610LN Date is the perfect watch for me, the date function is required for me, the cyclops is required (I’m old and blind). I’ve been a diving instructor on and off for over 30 years. The GMT is just too busy, it’s also not diving or swimming ready only being rated @ 10atm, I wouldn’t trust that. I’ve dived with my watch, you just need a chart, there is no need for a dive computer if you are just doing an2 dive day and know how to use your dive charts and your watch.

@GentlemensWatchServices 4 ай бұрын

Out of the two I’d choose the Sub, bomb proof movement. But Rolex, particularly GMT and Submariner are a bit on the nose, dare I say it…a bit common. A gentleman would do well to look to vintage watches. Or if you want the actual first diver go for the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, a bit more class the Vacheron Constantin FiftySix.

@metro2171 3 ай бұрын

Both they serve different purpose . Have them both and love them equally

@okidoki2952 3 ай бұрын

I’m always torn between the two…. IMO Sub is a tool, GMT a tad dressier due to polished centre links and clasp, nightmare for showing scratches…..much better size clasp on the GMT although you loose the handy glide lock🤷🏼‍♂️