The great migration of 2023 ttrpgs.

Kobold and Paizo are companies that care much more about customers than WotC ever did

As an existing fan of PF2E, I welcome all our new friends, refugees from D&D. I hope you will enjoy this system and world as much as I have! Also, yeah, Archives of Nethys is all you need.

To the new players.... Welcome! Odds are you'll like it better over here. Even before Wizards/Hasbro took a steaming dump on their fans, I preferred Pathfinder over 5e. A more advanced and flexible ruleset imo. In fact, it reminds me of the old days when we had two products; D&D and Advanced D&D,.or AD&D. I was always an AD&D guy. It ended up kinda the same. D&D, made by a toy company, and a new AD&D, called Pathfinder, made by Paizo. This is much more like the move from D&D to AD&D back in the day than it moving to a new system. You already know how most of Pathfinder works... And the differences? Actually better over here imho. You sacrifice nothing by moving to Pathfinder in a boycott. It's the better rule system from a better publisher. In short, come on over because you are angry at Hasbro, stay because odds are you'll like Pathfinder more anyway.

Long time D&D player, but thanks to Glass Cannon, I've been exposed to PF. Now that Hasbro has decided to go full Dark Empire, I've decided to give PF2E a look...and I have to say...intrigued by both the Gunslinger and Swashbuckler.

Talking about this with my group this weekend!!

Pathfinder 2e core rulebooks have nearly all but sold out in the UK - at least if your looking for the pocket edition XD. Thank Nethys for AoN whilst I wait.

I weathered the OGL storm of uncertainty only to see WotC's PR nightmare of hiring Pinkertons to shake down a guy for having misdelivered cardboard. On the lookout for alternates, thanks for this pointed and specific advice video!

My experience with Paizo is extremely positive. My starfinder book that i preordered came in, opened it, and the spine and the pages split from the glue. In less than a day i had a new one on its way to me. Paizo cares about its customers. Pathfinder 2e is extremely fun to play in!

the only good thing about this OGL mess is that Im realizing just how great Paizo and Pathfinder are. Really eager to get started!!

I've always had DnD on my bucket list, but now I have Pathfinders on my bucket list instead (thanks WotC OGL disaster). I've played countless video rpgs (my go-to genre), but never a TTRPG. Your explanation makes Pathfinder look even better to me.

My group and I have been playing Pathfinder for years, played through 2e playtesting and then switched to 2e a few years ago. Simultaneously, I am dming a dnd campaign (maybe we'll switch to Pathfinder too now...). Honestly, the rules are not very different. The only thing that I really preferred about dnd was Advantage/Disadvantage system that was very intuitive. One major other rule in Pathfinder imo are the Critical Hit/Success and Critical Fail rules. And there are critical successes for mages too, you guys! All in all, I think you'll get used to it very fast. Pathbuilder 2e is a great - and free! - app for Pathfinder 2e, which I can really recommend. It is your mobile character sheet and much more clearly arranged than the dndbeyond mobile app. Makes character building and level ups very easy.

I love playing Pathfinder 2e. It's a great game. But I recommend trying a bunch of games. For example Blades in the Dark made a huge difference to my mindset on how I roleplay and make stories fun.

I'd say it would be a better idea to start with the Beginner's Box. It's a good starting point to get used to the system before tackling anything bigger.

For the migration of my players to pf2e adventures... Eberron to Golarion, I have decided to consider Eberron an inner earth world connected by 4 magical portals to the outer world Golarion. One of the portal is at the north pole. The 3 remaining ones are near the 3 biggest cities power centers of Golarion. Players will hence arrive to Absalon through flying ships for the 100 year festival in pf2e Agents of Edgewatch

Is 2023 the year of Pathfinder?! What other TTRPG's should D&D refugees check out?

Im playing a kobold inventor who has taken the discipline feat to 'multiclass' into alchemist. Riding atop a clockwork kobold mech that has a pile bunker, chain saw, a shoudler moutned launcher, whilst I am breathing fire and throwing bombs at my enemies!

Thanks so much for making this. Was exactly what I was looking for

A couple of small clarifications... There are no skill points to spend in second edition. Instead, it's all about proficiency, which is based on a bonus from rank, plus character level as long as you are at least trained in the skill. So your bonus for trained skills increases every level. On top of that, you get to increase your proficiency rank based on your class (EX rogues get a single increase every level, other classes may get them at odd levels). Very few of the older Adventure Paths went to 20th level. I believe that all of the six-part ones for 2nd ed do. This is because the system is more balanced and playable at high levels than 1st edition was. They also have started making 3-part AP's, some going from 1st-10th, others from 11th-20th. Cheers!

Sweet cant wait to try this. Keep up the good work ill keep watchin.

My group and I played pathfinder 1e for 4 years and was just transitioning with the Dragonlance module. We're still gonna play it since it was purchased before the drama, but definitely upgrading to 2e pf after that

We are doing our 3rd session for P2E on Saturday and we are excited. Even with WotC going back on intentions I don’t see myself ever going back. The character creation alone is so much fun.

Got an ad for dndbeyond and I had to pause bc I was laughing so hard

I have to chime in to reiterate the fact that Basic Fantasy, a fantastic OSR game, is 100% free.

Currently have a group trying to get into Pathfinder, so this is a save and grace.

Oh the Loki scream had me laughig my tea on my phone. Thank you for this video!

Pathbuilder 2 is a great play resource as it offers a die roller and active character sheet as well as a character builder.

Thanks for the vid !

I love Pathfinder! Good call

Best move I made and haven't looked back!

OMG. The title of this video!!! I love it.

Hehe. I have never been a refugee before, but I’m not sure I am now. I only played dnd because my friend did and my kids wanted to try it. I honestly don’t really care about dnd. But those PF2e rules are outstanding. I can’t wait to run a game.

Also there is a very good character builder for both mobile and pc. It is pathbuilder 2e. I would still recommend watching a guide or something on character creation so that you know that there is much more options then it might appear at first glance as far as character building goes.

As someone who's only been in the hobby a couple of years I'd not encountered pathfinder yet. It astounds me how much more fleshed out it is, it's like D&D is a barebones version of pathfinder, rather than the actual way pathfinder came to be.

I am working on a Pathfinder 2e campaign. I want it to show of the differences between it and D&D 5e. Guns will figure prominently.

I"m VERY much considering switching but only when my current campaign finishes as its close to a close. I'm gonna be playing after and then, depending on what happens in the next 1-2 years I'll be ready. But Pathfinder is a VERY close contender

First, Blizzard with WoW and now WotC with DnD. The is truly the Great (TTRPG) Diaspora of 2023!

Thanks. I'm making the switch.

I’m not gone from D&D, but Pathfinder seems cool so I think I’ll play it if I ever get the chance. Also, Mutants and Masterminds is an amazing one everyone should check out. All of its rules are available online for free as well.

As a long time player of PF let me heartily recommend Herolab for PF character sheets. It was effectively the standard in PF 1 and is very good in PF 2 if not quite standard. It is not a monthly subscription. You buy it once and pay for any PF books you want added to it, yes it adds up if you buy everything but so does a D&D Beyond sub. The PF 2 version is just online IIRC and the PF 1 version can be used online or to print physical sheets. The reason I prefer Pathfinder is very simple. I am usually the one who DM's and Paizo started out as a company making products for DM's and while they certainly make stuff for players they never lost that focus on making products to make a DM's life easier and better. If you're a DM and you aren't familiar with Pazo's product line go look. Literally dozens of full campaigns of modules, called adventure paths that will take a group from 1 to mid teens or 20, dozens of stand alone modules, many play aids to make your life easier at the table (including ones that will make you stop and say I've always needed that and never knew it).

I was always a Rolemaster GM most of all. I play 5e because I have no other option now. I guess I will go back to Rolemaster when my student group stops next summer.

Thanx ❤️

I been part of the DND community for awhile and been learning the system for 30+ years. I am now trying to go toward a different route that not overly complicated. Pathfinder 2e sound like a good idea since I am in a group that is switching from dnd 5e to PF 2e. But alas I seem to be an odd one of the group and would need help in it. My character is a Topaz Dragonborn Soul Knife Rouge/Trickery Domain Cleric. Need help with converting. As for the video. Thank you this actually sound like a lot of fun back when it was 3.5e DnD.

0:16 Not gonna lie, this delivery sold me on Tom Hiddleston’s performance as Loki.

Great title!

I’ve recently picked up the Kingmaker 2e collection. Am looking for players! Oh, right, probably in the real world. PF2.0 is about as mainstream as I get with my gaming, it’s a great D&D alternative. In fact, I reckon the game rules are substantially better. So welcome aboard!

Very nice video

I'm still playing Pathfinder 1st edition and will eventually buy some 2nd edition. Love how much 3rd party stuff is made for Pathfinder by Kobold Press(Southlands, etc) and others. D&D lost me at 4th, and I've never looked back. But to be fair, i do love warhamner fantasy roleplay, fantasy age, world of darkness, cthulu, and 40k dark herasy(new version of sorts on the way), just to name a few. Best time for people to try some different flavours of rpg.

I'm still working on my homebrew Western/Fantasy world Di'er into the Pathfinder system.

Thanks for the helpful video! I've been running a 5e game for years that I'd now like to migrate, and Pathfinder seems like the perfect evolution for it!

I played the adventure card game in Iraq with a friend to pass the time and recently picked up the 2e core book since they were so kind(and cheeky) to have a 25% off sale.

Something neglected to be mention in this video (and unfortunately many like it) is that a big difference between the two games is that the numbers in general (especially at high levels) are larger, as many things add their level to rolls. This is a HUGE difference for people coming from a game used to bounded accuracy and frankly creators who neglect to mention this are outright doing those coming from 5e a disservice. It makes a huge difference in the tone of the game as low level monsters that were previously still a threat at mid to high levels are effectively useless for the DM now and anyone trying to make most skill checks at mid to high levels is basically all but wasting their time if they try to do something they aren't trained in (if the game will let them do at all). This is NOT just a simple change to the game and is DEFINITELY a big con to some people who like the smaller numbers bounded accuracy keeps. And as someone who frankly thinks that that was the single greatest change from precious editions for 5e, I am NOT a fan of the bloated numbers of PF2E. Food for thought for people considering switching.

have been playing pf1 myself for years. im even dming a campaign, my second one. pf1 is a great system and there is soooo much material for it released that is hard to come up with an original idea that hasnt been already done before. i say all of this because this video covers the how, but i think that it leaves the why behind a little. the why is very important and i just wanted to say that pf1 and pf2 are systems that have a lot of customizations for both players and dms, but do so in a way that is very easy for both. is actually a very good system, give it a try, not because wotc is trying to scam you, but because is actually probably a better system in the first place.

Looking intl running a pathfinder 2e game for the first time. I play in a 2e game and have been playing d&d 5e for a few years now as both player and gm

Already bought the core rulebook and beastiary.

Welcome! Welcome! Have a seat. The ale is cold. I am loving this all. I want to play PF2E so much more but the stores here, like everywhere, are dominated by 5E horde. So it's play 5E or don't play at all really.

Where do you get that shift "D&D BEGONE"? That is clever and I want one! Liked and subbed for your content!

I love paizo. But if you want to are highlighting differences and using attacks of opportunity as an example, get the example right. it's not leaving a threatened square in 5e. It's leaving a creature's reach. you can run around a creature in a circle and as long as you don't leave it's reach, there's no attack of opportunity. (this was probably balanced by removing the mechanical benefit for flanking, making that movement generally less advantageous)

Humble bundle had a pathfinder bundle a few months back that had like $400 worth of pathfinder books for 30 bucks

I'm completely new to Pathfinder and coming from DnD and another System with the action, bonus action, movement turn, the 3 action turn alone is sounding INCREDIBLY enticing right now! Do you also get a penalty to defense in the monster's round or following turn for attacking like a madman or can you do whatever you like?

I really need to try 2e sometime, I just stick with 1e.

My biggest question about running Pathfinder 2e is how monsters are run effectively. I saw that many of them have multiple feats but are then not described. Do other DMs look these up all the time and won't that slow down the pace of the game?

I've already sunk a lot of money and time into D&D... but I can't happily continue on. I'll finish the campaigns I'm already in or DMing, but I will support Pathfinder from now on. It seems like they care.

Come to Starfinder too, please!

Yes

I recognize I'm late as hell but where did you get that shirt? I need one so badly ❤️‍🔥

Pathbuilder 2e is the best character builder for any TTRPG I've ever played.

While I feel bad about the shenanigans related to the wotc stuff I'm really happy lots of people are finding pathfinder 2e because of it

Talking to my roommate last night, the big issue is finding a game that everyone in your group wants to play. He has gone through years of trying different ttrpgs with his group and no other game has ever made the cut, and they returned to D&D.

Current 5e player, my group just switched from 3.5 (not even Pathfinder 1e, actually 3.5) a couple years ago, and I did play a bit of Pathfinder 1e when it first came out, before a lot of the options became bloat. I am tentatively looking at 2e, I picked up the Humble Bundle that just started up. I just know that, while I'm all for something different and more character options, I don't want something as excessively crunchy as 3.5/P1. I'm good with a bit more than 5e, but I don't want to get too crazy. So far though, hearing good things.

After this video I'm now sure will not switch to Pathfinder. I chose system already, but if we play DnD will homebrew the 3 actions (that is nice) and remove the opportunity attack as the example above (maybe special creatures or higher lv monsters will have it. The other things appear same stuff.

Currently in the first third of a curse of strahd campaign with some friends. I am never ever handing over money to WotC or dnd ever again. As soon as we are finished CoS, I will be switching to pf2e, and I'm already hyped!

I embraced fourth edition because I saw that it fixed a pigeon hole problem in 3.5 (even though it created the opposite problem of same-y-ness which fifth has fixed without recreating the original problem). A friend tried to get me to play Pathfinder first edition and I saw that it had the same pigeon hole problem. I'm curious if second edition still has that problem, so let me elaborate and give the specifics. You can do anything in D&D, but it's pedigree is really battle centered tactics and war gaming, so it's frustrating when entire archetypes are told that they aren't going to do anything through a combat centered campaign. My realization of the problem in 3.5 was when I tried to make a sneaky ninja based on an anime character I liked who would throw weapons from the shadows. Halflings are supposed to be stealthy and stealth and finesse weapons need Dex, so I built that only to find that the low strength small character could only do d2 damage if she threw her weapons within 15 feet of the monsters. The group laughed at my ineffectiveness for not building a barbarian or paladin for three rounds before the DM decided my character was going to be petrified by the gorgon. In 1E Pathfinder I tried to build a gnome bard and learned that he'd get two spells a day before he'd be useless in encounter after encounter because he was too weak to even draw a bow. Is this fixed in second edition, or will I get told that a character without a high strength can't contribute in combat and doesn't belong when inexplicably hostile monsters attack out of nowhere?

Do you (or anyone offering constructive comments here) have any advice for people who find Pathfinder *too* crunchy? I tried PF1e for 4-6 weeks last year and it just wasn't my cup of tea. Folks say things like "more flexible" but I find it to be "more fiddly," way more math, floating modifiers, and clunky, requiring consultation of charts, and modifier comparisons. Seriously, I'm not here to troll, I'm not happy with the OGL as well, and would like another option, but I'm pretty hesitant about Pathfinder. I already have a lot of experience, played the Storyteller System (Werewolf the Apocalypse, Vampire the Masquerade, Exalted, etc) back in the 90's, played Risus, read a lot of FATE, tried reading Powered by the Apocalypse (but keep bouncing off), plus 5e and PF1e, so yeah, lots of experience with other systems. Always looking for another tool in the toolbox.

Guys the true answer is Dungeon Crawl Classics, its simple and easy and gets complicated when you level up and get more options togheter with the fun, the more you discover the more you roll the more situations you pass, the more fun you get. Try it now DCC!

Well now is the time for them to pull out a pathfinder version of dnd beyond

My Core Rulebook & Advanced Players Guide are Enroute. I'll order the Bestiary and one more book on the 31st. What book should I order?

Question: I am thinking of converting my World and future campaign to Pf2e from DnD. But a huge part of this world is, that there are dragons hidden all around the world. Either just hidden from the eyes of men, or hidden in human form among them. For example, the immortal emperor is actually a gold dragon who goes way too far with punishing crime. Now to the question: Is there a mechanical way in Pf2e for the dragons to have human forms? Looking at the sheets for the dragons, I don't see inherit shapeshifting (or at least non-duration ones) like in 5e. I am always up to homebrew, but prefer it to stick to the rules whenever I can.

Whats the OGL for pathfinder , I was writing a book for dnd but I'm considering converting ìt to pathfinder now

I'm going to take the d&d campaigns I want to run and convert them for pathfinder

Is there any way to take Pathfinder off of the "recruit" setting that D&D 5e (and 4e) never leave? You know, maybe something less than the hit points of an ogre and the attack of a dragon by 3rd round?

I just noticed that Seelah was shown a lot on Pathfinder items and arts.

I love the title of this video. "Refugee" feels like the most appropriate term. 😂

Is there a guide for going from 3.5e to PF 1e?

My biggest problem with pathfinder is not that I am prevented from playing without buying a book, it's that I absolutely love books, I NEED it and can't get it around here. It's apparently sold out in my COUNTRY. Sheesh... guess I might have to order one from Paizo directly and hope they still have 'em.

I like to think Lolth is watching all of this chaos and laughing her ass off... and finding a new dimension to attempt to take over.

Any idea how Pathfinder is for accessibility for the disabled? Is there any apps for a character creation that work with an iPhones voice reader? 8:01

Thank you for posting usable content that isn’t a long winded rant against WOTC. (And while I am at it, thank you for keeping us abreast of the latest developments in SHORT videos. Short-ish, at least. I don’t know if I represent anyone else, but I’ve made my analysis and I’ve made a decision based on that analysis. To sum it up, WOTC/Hasbro is an unethical company that I will not patronize again. I don’t trust their promises one bit, and we have no more hope of making them change than a domestic abuse victim has of changing their abuser. The only answer is to leave the abuser. So I am in GREAT NEED of videos like this one that will help me transition to another game system. Your work is greatly appreciated.

A pity Beadle & Grimm doesn't have a chronicle book for Bard.

Well I try to get my hand on a core rule book... But boy in Germany they are mostly sold out my copy will arrive around the end of February

i am very curious about Pathfinder and would like to learn to play it, but man its hard finding people to play with when you're an introvert >.>;;

Back after the WoTC Pinkerton Debacle. Great tips when I'm looking to migrate myself, now how do I convince my players lol

Pathbuilder is pretty good

Props to Doctor Who reference❤❤

can one play a more low fantasy world in 2e? am about to switch from 1. edition because it is to mutch fireball throwing around

I love how the first itme around it blew up in their face and they never wanted compitition or another pathfinder ever again. Then they learned how to turn the same mistake bomb into a nuke.

I dunno... FATE seems to be a pretty easy one to start with as well... There seems to be a lot of interesting things you can do in it.

Nah, man. I will keep on playing DnD with pen and paper and 90% homebrew using just the physical core book I already have as a reference. Also, I'm not sure I'll enjoy the specialist thing where one must be a master of a certain skill to pass a check (since the diff quickly become 30, 40, etc) and therefore automatically fails at skills they're average at. If I understand correctly, if a character has low to average INT, they auto-fail any INT check soon when the game progresses? Is this correct or I misunderstood that part?

It’s been a better system since PF1. PF2 is light years ahead.

So if i play AD&D 2nd Edition, playing Pathfinder 2nd Edition would be completely confusing to me?