Drake Versus Kendrick Lamar Final Thoughts with Professor Skye | Podcast

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The Company Man

The Company Man

2 ай бұрын

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Aight Analysts, I'm a big fan of ‪@professorskye‬ KZfaq channel, Professor Skye's Record Review. He's inspiring. He's insightful. And in the case of his viral commentary on Drake versus Kendrick Lamar, he's the best kind of incendiary.
To the uninitiated, Professor Skye is a professor of French and Hip-Hop at a small public university who does music criticism on KZfaq. His channel is loaded with creative angles on the culture we love. This video on why Hip Hop is the Most Important Artistic Movement In Human History is a great primer on his perspective.
• Why Hip-Hop is the Mos...
In this conversation we take a look at what's next in the Kendrick Lamar versus Drake historic rap beef. We also analyze who won, how much production choices played a role in audience reception, and make suggestions on how Drake can evolve his public perception going forward.
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Justin Hunte is a music and culture critic and curator. During his career he served as Director of Content & Strategic Marketing for EMPIRE as well as Editor-in-Chief of HipHopDX. Hunte is the architect behind DX's video platform and creator of popular series, DXBreakdown. Along with championing Ambrosia For Head's video strategy, Hunte is also a weekly contributor to Shade45's All Out Show on SiriusXM and has been featured on Revolt TV’s “Revolt Live," Cheddar's "Cheddar Music," as well as in Billboard magazine.
In 2017 Justin Hunte moderated the Recording Academy's panel on The Health Of Hip Hop which featured Dr. Reef Karim, psychiatrist and human behavior expert; Shanti Das, urban music executive and founder of Silence the Shame; GRAMMY nominees Vic Mensa and Charlie Wilson, and five-time GRAMMY winner Lalah Hathaway. Later that year, he participated in a debate at the prestigious Oxford Union on whether Kanye West is more relevant than William Shakespeare.
Hunte has been the centerpiece of digital campaigns for Lexus, Honda, Brisk, and Simple Mobile and has hosted concerts and panels nationwide.
A graduate of Wofford College, Hunte spent 5 years working in investment banking at Banc Of America/Merrill Lynch and has covered music, politics, and culture for numerous publications.
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@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Thank you all for the support, Analysts. I'm having a blast being back in the swing of things and each of you who've donated to the linktree is making it possible for me to focus more on dropping videos. I've received a handful of donations this week and it means the world to me. If anyone's ever interested in contributing to the mission, feel free to donate here ( LinkTree: linktr.ee/thecompanyman ) or my cash app $TheCompanyMan. And even if you don't, sharing the video and subscribing goes a long way as well. Also, apologies in advance. Spectrum internet was down in my area so I had to record the conversation using my iphone hot spot so my visual is a little pixelated and the audio is a little delayed. Skye's fine so the conversation should be easy to follow. I've got an editorial calendar now and Kendrick, Game, Lupe, and Eminem are on the near horizon. Stay tuned for that. It's all happening.
@etotheipi42
@etotheipi42 2 ай бұрын
Dude Professor Skye sucks and you are awesome. This is a weird mix.
@chanson8508
@chanson8508 2 ай бұрын
Excited 🙌🏾
@Seoul_Soldier
@Seoul_Soldier 2 ай бұрын
6-point strategy for Aubrey: 1. Don't be Drake. 2. Lean into being an outsider and talk about what it was like growing up as a biracial kid in Toronto. 3. Be an actual mentor to up and coming rappers instead of stealing from them. 4. Rebrand OVO, that shit is done. 5. Be genuine, stop using blaccent, and try to be real for once in your life. 6. Don't be Drake.
@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb
@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb 2 ай бұрын
You forgot no.7: Don't Be Drake.
@davidcici11Evolution
@davidcici11Evolution 2 ай бұрын
He needs to find his inner Aubrey Graham. Y'all forgot number 8. Don't be Drake.
@allanwatima9193
@allanwatima9193 2 ай бұрын
And explaining number 9 which is Don't Be Drake: It's great to support upcoming artists but don't put fishy deals with the stimulus package that takes advantage of the artist.
@noelmartin8079
@noelmartin8079 2 ай бұрын
@@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb I don’t think he shouldn’t be drake I think he should just (DRaKe) 👈🏾
@GaganSingh-nx2yv
@GaganSingh-nx2yv 2 ай бұрын
7. Don't use n word lol.
@xandertrejo
@xandertrejo 2 ай бұрын
Like Kendrick said 'this aint a rap battle this is a life long battle with yourself'
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Probably the truest line of the entire matchup.
@tellmesomething2412
@tellmesomething2412 2 ай бұрын
That whole dissection of his ego was nasty work. Also, to start the track off with, "Dear, my enemy's son..." 😬
@bouncyshak
@bouncyshak 2 ай бұрын
*Long life
@EayuProuxm
@EayuProuxm 2 ай бұрын
I like that the advice for The Drake Resuscitation Project is to do the opposite of everything he's done so far in his career. 1. Be a mentor 2. Don't ride trendy waves 3. Be really introspective 4. Admit to deep flaws
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Well when you put it that way hahahahaa!
@rudolfambrozenvtuber
@rudolfambrozenvtuber 2 ай бұрын
This is like those strategy posts like "if Donald Trump wants an easy victory in November, he should consider not being Donald Trump or doing Donald Trump things"
@awake3607
@awake3607 2 ай бұрын
In group vs out group dynamics. The answer to, "Why can't I say the N word?" edit: moved this to where it was meant to be. Left here for clarity of the comments that followed. Yes the advice appears to essentially be reverse course on how he got here.
@rudolfambrozenvtuber
@rudolfambrozenvtuber 2 ай бұрын
@@awake3607 bro what are you on about
@awake3607
@awake3607 2 ай бұрын
@@rudolfambrozenvtuber The words by themselves are pretty self explanatory but I understand the confusion. It was meant to be a comment to the channel based on a conversation had in the video when Coates was brought up and not a response to this person in particular. I made a mistake and posted here (multitasking gone wrong) lol. I will move it to where it was meant to be.
@TheCouncilOfTheGods
@TheCouncilOfTheGods 2 ай бұрын
This is the collaboration I didn't know we needed >>>>>
@issiahsilva
@issiahsilva 2 ай бұрын
6:16 in LA is completely underrated but it was a set up jab for Drake to try to haymaker.
@styler3585
@styler3585 2 ай бұрын
Imo 616 and euphoria 1 and 2 in the beef
@el.blanco8961
@el.blanco8961 2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate people with more than one brain cell talking about music, especially when they are knowledgeable about the industry and genre
@daveythesearcher
@daveythesearcher 2 ай бұрын
You know when a restaurant has a great chef? Well that's what Justin does for hip hop journalism. I remember him on Hip-hopDX. It took me a while to find him again but he's a quality level headed guy. I deffo appreciate his content and his breakdowns.
@Unknowngnostic
@Unknowngnostic 2 ай бұрын
It's nice to see that there are ppl who appreciate the intellectual side of hip hop. There is a huge gatekeeping sentiment when it comes to hip hop culture, which I do understand. But I don't understand why they don't like ppl who appreciate what hip hop is and what is has done. It's no different than studying ancient Egypt if you just happened to be there. Doesn't mean you want to be a part of it or pretend. Just means you recognize it's contribution. However I do understand that sentiment when ppl from other cultures try to pretend, and that's always been my problem with drake. He's a Jewish Canadian from the suburbs pretending to be an African American from the inner city. I'm surprised they don't have more of a problem with him. All cultures contribute to humanity. You should be proud of your culture for what it shares, because no matter who you are, you are borrowing things from other cultures. But the lines get crossed between appreciation and imitation
@DucksUpDogsDownCatsSlide
@DucksUpDogsDownCatsSlide 2 ай бұрын
As someone from Canada, I don't know if any Canadian rappers will ever reach Drake's level of commercial success on the music charts, but I wish the world would pay more attention to the Indigenous hip hop scene, such as Snotty Nose Rez Kids and others.
@lucasalamo3448
@lucasalamo3448 2 ай бұрын
Shout out K-Os
@DucksUpDogsDownCatsSlide
@DucksUpDogsDownCatsSlide 2 ай бұрын
@@lucasalamo3448 Yes, and Maestro Fresh Wes.
@maxwalton411
@maxwalton411 2 ай бұрын
35:12 "too black for the white kids and too white for the blacks" is an Earl sweatshirt line
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Earl The God
@adammarsh956
@adammarsh956 2 ай бұрын
@@TheCompanyMan best modern emcee of the last 15 years, hes in the GOAT coversation for mainstream-adjacent lyrical artists in hip hop
@damxn7303
@damxn7303 2 ай бұрын
Like the ideas for Drake to redeem himself but I think it’s too late, Drake is too far gone into his own psyche….Drake just feels weird
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I agree.
@zacoone
@zacoone 2 ай бұрын
This has to become a series with guest appearances. Awesome collab gentlemen!
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
That's the plan.
@joshuafetter3831
@joshuafetter3831 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheCompanyMan I feel like in light of the beef taking over the public consciousness, it would be cool to do an interview with Knox Hill or Scru Face Jean to talk about what it's like living a fast reacting beef since they've basically done Kendrick vs Drake lite over the past week
@Kruuppe
@Kruuppe 2 ай бұрын
@@joshuafetter3831 not scruface tho, he too fake. see his reaction to The Heart Pt 6? yikes - said it was "exactly what Drake needed to do". Reactors can keep it real, you don't have to fake love everything
@TerraFirma47
@TerraFirma47 2 ай бұрын
We missed you Justin! Glad to see you back posting regularly
@mehoo8
@mehoo8 2 ай бұрын
Thats how you know Hip-Hop’s been boring af
@TerraFirma47
@TerraFirma47 2 ай бұрын
@@mehoo8 totally agree. The beef stirred things up
@mikeroni
@mikeroni 2 ай бұрын
I will never get BBL Drizzy out of my head
@YetiCoolBrother
@YetiCoolBrother 2 ай бұрын
There is no way Drake is self-aware enough or a good enough rapper to do a "pull the human card" song. Even if he did try to do it it would just be shallow and/or very selective & vague things like on "Look What You've Done" or "Too Much"
@junioraltamontent.7582
@junioraltamontent.7582 2 ай бұрын
The lack of self awareness really killed Drake in the beef. Dot accused him of not bein from the culture and he goes and says that wierd ass slave line. He gets called a dirtbag for trying to sleep with everyones girl, incl Wayne's, and he goes and hollars at Whitney over and over. Gets called a predator and comes with a "haha you got r*ped" bar. Drake really confirmed everything said abt him bc his ego got so big he forgot how to read a room
@KamilaShakur
@KamilaShakur 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think Drake can really rehabilitate himself because we already know too much about him. Not gossip, we have SEEN too much weird shit. Exposing himself after he’s already been exposed against his will isn’t going to hit like that. If it’s genuine, it’ll be good for him. But it won’t make me think better OF him.
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
mmm... this is an interesting perspective. So he's essentially too far gone in your opinion?
@KamilaShakur
@KamilaShakur 2 ай бұрын
@@TheCompanyMan yes but to be fair, I thought he was too far gone long before all of this. The pattern of predatory behavior & constantly attacking Black women in his music on top of his music being mediocre for years…He is who he is. And he’s rich, he will be fine. But I think he will have to live with this stain on him forever & it will affect how much people buy into Drake the brand.
@SEOshogun
@SEOshogun 2 ай бұрын
Professor Skye does not realize that Drake has never made an album in his real accent. Even his "canadian" accent is false, taking on the slang he once called ignorant over dinner with white friends. Drake has behaved like a vulture even with Canada. I truly don't think he knows who he is and maybe secretly is fearful he is that same unaccepted kid. He would have to go to therapy to uncover the real aubrey in order to show up as the real him.
@notnow_stopitagain5800
@notnow_stopitagain5800 2 ай бұрын
AGREED.😉🌸✌️🏽
@kbrown3787
@kbrown3787 2 ай бұрын
💯
@makiba9461
@makiba9461 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. He doesn't understand black culture at all.
@junyathiiird
@junyathiiird 2 ай бұрын
There are many artists, globally, who rap in an Americanized 'rapccent' (like Travis Scott, Tyler The Creater, Eminem, Logic). There's something to be said about Canadian artists not feeling confident enough to rap in there native accent - but most of the artists who rap with their native accent remain local. Drake and Tory Lanez are replicating the music they heard the same way previous generations sounded so New York (because of 90s and early 00s hip hop). The actual problem with Drake goes deeper than his accent. More so the code-switching and apparent lack of respect for the cultures he's 'stealing' from - the line between inspiration and appropriation. Also the million different accents and 'colonizer' claims. Also the point you mentioned about his admitted feelings about the slang being ignorant (which can come from trying to be accepted by the white world, but that's beside the point..)😮 I.e. "Look what you've done for me" - it wasn't his native accent but it did give an honest depiction of his lived experience with his mom. If we had more of that from Drake and didn't morph into so many styles...instead we get the nightlife, dating young girls, and mob boss Drake while appearing to use other people's styles and literally using their lyrics (in verses). Tory Lanez was good at this because he gave you his life story regardless of the accent - when he was around Canadians he spoke in a more Canadian accent. It can be viewed as code switching or the way some people speak in their ethnic accent or language to their parents or friends from 'back home'. In the next generation some Canadian-sounding rappers may crossover. "Bizz Loc", "Pressa", "Shad", "Jimmie D", all rap in their native, 'Canadian' accents - a few examples. This also happens when Rock artists/bands do Reggae inspired music - because most of the reggae they ever heard came from Jamaica, their songs were written and performed with their fused version of the accent. Partynextdoor, Erykah Badu, Yasiin Bey (Mos Def), Beyonce, and Rihanna have all done this with Reggae - Sting is the only band that comes to mind but Im sure there were more.
@junyathiiird
@junyathiiird 2 ай бұрын
If I wasn't clear I agree with your initial point. Just highlighting that many artists give us their real life through a performed voice - salute to the real but to some degree there are many artists that would do what drake's doing if they could - most of the industry simply follows the trends and what will sell
@EpicPalmTree
@EpicPalmTree 2 ай бұрын
If Drake releases an album titled something like "Too(2) Far Gone" and comes in with the introspection like he did on songs like the calm then he'll bounce right tf back
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
"Too Far Gone"! Perfect title.
@dsario174
@dsario174 2 ай бұрын
Man love this comment. I was just listening to the calm. People forget, but Drake in his early days was extremely relatable. His music was him contextualizing this sudden entrance into the limelight. The selfishness that grew in him etc. The calm is the perfect example of that.
@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb
@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb 2 ай бұрын
I honestly think Drake is finished. He's no Kanye, I do not see a Twisted Fantasy type comeback. He may still make music but his public image has been forever scarred. It's one thing to have Pusha T call you deadbeat, it's something else entirely to have Kendrick Lamar Duckworth call you and your crew predators.
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
I'm curious to see which of his collaborators will work with him again first. A drake feature isn't the same as it was before Not Like Us dropped.
@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb
@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb 2 ай бұрын
@@TheCompanyMan he's 100 percent gonna put out an album. I mean he has to right? The smart thing is to wash the bad taste of this from the public's mouth right away.
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
He has to. Never leave while you're hot, that's how Mase screwed up.
@lugebeatzz8747
@lugebeatzz8747 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheCompanyMan He can stay but he has to get an artist that's better than him(ability to rap but not famous) and get featured in his work as a guest. Use the inhouse producers.
@vincval805
@vincval805 2 ай бұрын
AVAA! oh, wrong channel.. two of my favorite channels colliding is a real treat! thanks to the both of you for always being so insightful, humble and always having something to teach to your audience, but most of all, for being students and not pretending to have answers to everything and having such great interactions with your respective audiences. respect! and looking forward to another collab 🙏🏻
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Thank yoU!
@rozsakyshki1930
@rozsakyshki1930 2 ай бұрын
AVAA! Grateful for Professor putting me on this channel! Great discussion… my brain is stimulated and I hope you two keep on collaborating on topics
@TheEphraimUchiha
@TheEphraimUchiha 2 ай бұрын
Album TAKE CARE the weekend wrote it 70% songs taken from the weeknd that's why they have beef. He used ghost writers
@ihateflatbunz
@ihateflatbunz 2 ай бұрын
4 songs =70% I doubt weekend wrote a rap verse but singing joints I can hear it.
@sandenson
@sandenson 2 ай бұрын
My understanding was that Abel produced the tracks and Drake coerced him to hand them over. He wrote lyrics too?
@therealist33777
@therealist33777 2 ай бұрын
So, if I understood correctly, Drake now stands for: Drake's Rehabilitation After Kendrick Evisceration Got it 🙂Thanks guys!
@BensonLe
@BensonLe 2 ай бұрын
Justin Hunte and prof Skye… a match made in heaven wtf
@dallashanson_
@dallashanson_ 2 ай бұрын
This will be epic. Also I’m a huge fan and would love to support in anyway. I would love to help on the production side if needed.
@los1945
@los1945 2 ай бұрын
I second this!!!! If you need help with editing that’s as much as I can help with 😂😂😂
@DiezDedosDown
@DiezDedosDown 2 ай бұрын
Kendrick was so ready. So so ready that he dropped that fast. I'm amazed. I'm also thinking about what you said about Kendrick using all kinds of classic styles of rap it's its own diss. This is how steeped into the culture he is and something Drake is not. This is so layered and every time I think I've figured it out, there's yet another diss I missed. Thank you for your insight!
@ErickEstebanComedy
@ErickEstebanComedy 2 ай бұрын
So glad to have discovered both of your channels through this battle. Looking forward to your future content.
@arempy5836
@arempy5836 2 ай бұрын
I think the "real human being" strategy is the least likely thing for Drake to do because it's hard. The path of least resistance for him is to do a heel turn. I could see him pivoting towards the contrarian redpill circle of guys like Elon Musk and Joe Rogan. He's already moving to Texas anyways. He's going full Fresh and Fit mode, mark my words
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
I can see that actually. Yeezus. What a thought.🤯
@DarlingMissDarling
@DarlingMissDarling 2 ай бұрын
Oh my gahhhh. He's already been that dude in his music and leaning that way with the persona too... but to take it from subtext to just straight text would be absolutely terrifyyyying. Prof. Skye said it right that he's already v. Trumpian so to go FULL HEEL would create some super gross behavior from his fans a la american culture in the late 90s-early 2000s. I was a young woman during that time and my gawd it was TREACHEROUS. No hyperbole needed.
@jn1105
@jn1105 2 ай бұрын
I love both of your takes on the beef and just the breakdown of each bar with context about their life ñ. *chefs kiss*
@whym6438
@whym6438 2 ай бұрын
24:57 Reminds me of one of my favorite Open Mike Eagle lines. "Just be a person, that’s the bottom line, be a person and fuck the rhyme scheme this time, just be a person."
@seanomatopoeia
@seanomatopoeia 2 ай бұрын
Quick 2 step plan for Aubrey: 1. Write a song as good as Runaway 2. Write a song as good as Not Like Us Gonna need some new ghostwriters
@astrotrain3332
@astrotrain3332 2 ай бұрын
Ah shit you got that white professor dude! I learned of both of you thanks to the algorithm during the beef. The algorithm gets a lot of deserved criticism but so happy I found you and the white professors channel!!! I never really got into in depth hip hop channels though I'm a lifetime hip hop fan. Your videos are incredible!! Much love bro!!
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Geminisbk3
@Geminisbk3 2 ай бұрын
His name is Professor Syke
@lucasalamo3448
@lucasalamo3448 2 ай бұрын
@@Geminisbk3😂 address the man as such 🕊️
@slumox213
@slumox213 2 ай бұрын
Collab of the century
@desireeeeam
@desireeeeam 2 ай бұрын
I am obsessed with this collaboration 🥰 this is what I’m talking about!!!!!!!!! Beautiful
@user-lf7dp8pf9n
@user-lf7dp8pf9n 2 ай бұрын
I actually really liked professors skyes take on Drake humanizing himself by being vulnerable. You got to fight fire with fire, you gotta out vulnerable Kendrick if that makes sense lol. Or at least match it
@WillieEarlSon
@WillieEarlSon 2 ай бұрын
Enjoying you guys discussion, i had a similar idea about Drake leaning into the “yeah I’m a outsider” on his next album. Call it “AUBREY” have the cover be a collage of both his mom and father side of the family with him in the middle and really giving an introspective album. A good 11 tracks
@marsea2
@marsea2 2 ай бұрын
I do think this was good for rap. Earlier this year, and late last year, they were saying that sales had declined by 40%, althought a different source said overall sales of rap declined by 2%. Whatever the case, that was a very real conversation with people blaming oversaturation, lack of quality, and just general lack of purchasing to own as reasons. I don't know if this rap beef will result in a Renaissance of interest, and sales. I do think it helped the general public to become interested in hop hop, and music overall again. But a big part of that is bc it showcased the quality of what rap can do. This beef did cut through oversaturation by elevating the music by the best of the best. If we go back to being watered down, and just having random generic sounds, as interesting as they might be for studying, ppl like Glorilla don't really hold up long term to the general public. I think if we go back to songs that are unique but have little pop appeal, and songs that have pop appeal, but are low quality, we will end up back in the same place.
@marsea2
@marsea2 2 ай бұрын
Lol forgive typos in this. My YT is acting up and I can't edit it. 😭
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Well said!
@los1945
@los1945 2 ай бұрын
But wouldn’t the fact that Kendrick is the one winning the numbers game and actually having people researching and trying to understand his entendres point to the opposite of what you’re saying here? Don’t get me wrong I completely agree with the sentiment being made I just think that this battle and the outcome of it kind of points to the opposite. Hope you didn’t take my criticism poorly only mean to help. 😊
@emperorarima3225
@emperorarima3225 2 ай бұрын
Outsider here, as much as this beef shows that breaking down rap has a place in this, really the only reason all the linguists and detectives came out is because Drake is a big pop artist and he's under fire. So many of the people who don't care about rap are here to appreciate the quality here solely because Drake hate extends beyond hip hop. I do hope that rap gets better, but it's better to put out a lot of mediocre songs than a few great ones... Financially speaking
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
I don't know man. Kendrick already won a pulitzer. He's had the linguist checking for him for years.
@crimsonJapery
@crimsonJapery 2 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about all this is the recognition of producers that's always good to talk about, neither artists would sound as good without their productions
@Imanifesto
@Imanifesto 2 ай бұрын
The Company Man is my fave Hip Hop reviewer
@sthlmboy79
@sthlmboy79 2 ай бұрын
I miss you and rude jude shows you guys had such great chemistry together
@januskami8800
@januskami8800 2 ай бұрын
Ah, I'm locked in for this!
@PirateCommando
@PirateCommando 2 ай бұрын
So happy seeing TheCompanyMan and Professor Skye collabing. Hope to see more of you two ever decide to do it again.
@clrs6576
@clrs6576 2 ай бұрын
Im only 10 minutes in, and i really think this deeper, more intelligent take on hip hop is really needed
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Thank yoU!
@evenoddridge4829
@evenoddridge4829 2 ай бұрын
I'm only 730 in and am excited for this cross over I'd just like to say that modern day hardcore is also very much a sport
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
I didn't realize that at all.
@l.a.outkast4988
@l.a.outkast4988 2 ай бұрын
Noo waayy!!! Two of my favorites who are respecting the culture with their insightful perspectives collaborating together?! One Love
@user-fs1lc2cj5s
@user-fs1lc2cj5s 2 ай бұрын
it’s funny because this is basically the opposite of beef, quite poetic really
@rozsakyshki1930
@rozsakyshki1930 2 ай бұрын
@user-fs1lc2cj5s brillant comment
@intelligencecycle3523
@intelligencecycle3523 2 ай бұрын
Great convo Justin & Professor Skye.
@aguyontheinternet7112
@aguyontheinternet7112 2 ай бұрын
Now would be a great time for Drake to drop that Vital record and try to give us a project that resembles NWTS but an updated version. NWTS was when Drake first gained mass appeal and became a global superstar. He could do an album from the perspective of "living long enough to see himself become the villain". This kind of album would include a time stamp record or two and have more records with him & 40 to restore the feeling again. Highlight members of the crew that have been along for the ride. The highs, the lows. Celebrating imperfections has always been a great marketing tactic and could turn the tide back to his fans still loving him. It would appear like he was taking the high road ("smoke before I make my decisions", that's how I take the high road").
@dsario174
@dsario174 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Even some elements of Scorpion. This is such a good opportunity for him to get back to good content. You could easily listen to Survival from that album and it applies to everything that just happened to him now. And it was great.
@CertifiedMusa
@CertifiedMusa 2 ай бұрын
I love the professors analysis of the beef whilst it was active. As he mentioned he may need some grace in assessing the cultural norms of hip-hop interaction.i don't think drake getting involved in another kendrick conflict would be ideal because drake lack of cultural awareness is evident and requires a lot of work. As going back to take style of work, it could work however Drake must kill his ego inorder to do so. I don't sw that happening.... but who knows .
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
I think he should leave it alone. Kendrick was too prepared and Drake hasn't won a battle in nearly a decade.
@Brickbrickbrickinthewall
@Brickbrickbrickinthewall 2 ай бұрын
It’s all happening yall
@hopE-mw265
@hopE-mw265 2 ай бұрын
Professor Skye is like us 💯. Great listen.
@los1945
@los1945 2 ай бұрын
Someone that gets the point!!!! It’s not about race that so many are trying to make it. This is the message that needs to be spread!!!
@SEOshogun
@SEOshogun 2 ай бұрын
We can't lose sight of the fact that Drake has had questionable behavior with grooming teens of 14 to 16 and then dating them immediately upon 18. That may not be technical pdf file behavior but there is no valid argument that that is ok. Not because I say so, but not one of us would trust that dude alone with our underage niece, cousin or sister. Edited for misspelled Drake
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's what makes this Ebony2k24 stuff so interesting. There's a lot of allegations out there and here's someone screaming about truth with video. I don't know if it's going to amount to anything. But it's getting people going.
@Phished123
@Phished123 2 ай бұрын
I think the most important thing is something you guys touched on a lot, and something that a lot of people miss or gloss over. Kendrick is very careful to skirt around calling drake a pedo directly. He lets the fans make those connections. But he DOES directly call Drake "a beard" which is clever. I saw a lot of people misunderstand that line he wasnt calling Drake a beard in the traditional sense(Someone who goes into a faux relationship with a closeted person to help provide them cover) but instead was saying he was being a beard for the shady people he keep around him.
@WuntaykTimmy1
@WuntaykTimmy1 2 ай бұрын
DROP IT NOWWWW THA STREETS NEED IT 🗣️🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
@OGNICKMARSH
@OGNICKMARSH 2 ай бұрын
This is a dream collab, thank you for this
@GTACJGrove
@GTACJGrove 2 ай бұрын
How many classics projects or great projects do you think Drake has?
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Take Care and the first half of Scorpion are my favorites. So Far Gone is probably his best work from a project standpoint. If You're Reading This is really really good too.
@ihateflatbunz
@ihateflatbunz 2 ай бұрын
​@TheCompanyMan Why doesn't Thank me later get the praise it has high replay value?
@spaniardprince
@spaniardprince 2 ай бұрын
This was a great discussion. I enjoyed it so much, I know I’ll end up listening to it again. Tons of gems being shared by both of these men. Respect.
@DiceB
@DiceB 2 ай бұрын
Thank you @thecompanyman for having this man on he is the only one to really care about French Quebec Canada rap and producers we love him so much for it.
@Seattle_Kiwi
@Seattle_Kiwi 2 ай бұрын
I came to this channel because of the Professor. ❤ Then, I stayed because your channel is great. ❤
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@dillondewitt3952
@dillondewitt3952 2 ай бұрын
Yoooo! I'm so happy that y'all linked up. I saw a lot of comments (including mine) in the good professor's comment section. Hype to watch.
@Elliott1314
@Elliott1314 14 сағат бұрын
I laughed out loud at "rap beef bringing people together". I discovered Skye first and he mentioned your channel, so I checked it out too. ❤
@nataphillipaworld
@nataphillipaworld 2 ай бұрын
Ooo I’m the 7th waiter 🎉 I’ve enjoyed getting to know both of your channels. Love the commentary.
@nils3031
@nils3031 2 ай бұрын
It's crazy finally seeing this, it was such a interesting conversation
@phasang9634
@phasang9634 2 ай бұрын
Company man this podcast is amazing. I love the prof and watch both of you guys. What generous and insightful things you both said. Bless
@Abdulragbagsing1
@Abdulragbagsing1 2 ай бұрын
Hey man, huge fan. Thank you for helping us to learn and don’t ever stop brother!
@stargems
@stargems 2 ай бұрын
i love this. the analysis, the passion, the meaning. thank you
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for checking it out!
@mikeroni
@mikeroni 2 ай бұрын
The real interesting conspiracy stuff to get into is Drake’s connection to Gamma. There’s a great Reddit thread about it…even if it’s fake it’s the most interesting
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
"Your show money, tour money, merch money feed us"
@User2637dsk
@User2637dsk 2 ай бұрын
Good link up 🤝
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Thanks 💯
@EaunPillar
@EaunPillar 2 ай бұрын
It's Time For Drake To Go On His Conscious Shit 🎵
@ihateflatbunz
@ihateflatbunz 2 ай бұрын
Let the conscious rappers fill that lane we don't even boost up the ones that do that.
@da1onlynickvicious
@da1onlynickvicious 2 ай бұрын
I love the collab!
@GMS_MCMI
@GMS_MCMI 2 ай бұрын
Love you, bro! Been down since radio! Keep making that amazing content. 🫡👑💯
@ArmLegLegArmHead47
@ArmLegLegArmHead47 2 ай бұрын
Two of my absolute favorite thinkers collaborating was destined to be enlightening and highly entertaining. Thank you so much!
@bdr113080
@bdr113080 2 ай бұрын
Ty Justin. You cover hip-hop in a very unbiased way, and that used to be the way it was followed all the time when it came from people that reported on it with a few exceptions, but it seems like there are too many people today that want to be dishonest, and just want their favorite to be the best. If this was the mentality we had in 1990 everyone would’ve said NWA cooked Ice Cube in there beef because at the time NWA as a group was more popular than him as a solo artist. For the respect of the culture, you can never have the winner just be the most popular and I think when we report on the culture we need to do the same thing. We love and respect it then, and we need to be honest with it. Thank you for always doing that.
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Thats love. Thank you! I do my best to call it down the line and let people know where my biases live. Like I did when it comes to this battle. I'm not anti Drake but I am anti anyone eating off rap and doesn't respect the culture and/or the black community.
@mikeroni
@mikeroni 2 ай бұрын
Love this collab!
@wormsali
@wormsali 2 ай бұрын
I love that you keep your locks short bro. 👍🏾
@FLEXGODSPIFF
@FLEXGODSPIFF 2 ай бұрын
This is the best I’m an oldie with the company man and newbie with Skye. Feels like the perfect yin-yang no pun intended.
@Magma2k
@Magma2k 2 ай бұрын
On the beats conversation: The snares/hihats on Heart Pt6 really reminded me of Chicago footwork more than anything... I've been out of hip-hop for a bit but it sounded like someone who'd listened to DJ Rashad.
@maki9396
@maki9396 2 ай бұрын
My favorite youtube hip hop analysts in one place?! 🙌🏾
@guillermobenitez9139
@guillermobenitez9139 2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah the collab really happened. 🎉I hope this happens more often
@kwookiee0504
@kwookiee0504 2 ай бұрын
Loved the video, thank you both!
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Imanifesto
@Imanifesto 2 ай бұрын
Great discussion guys
@Geminisbk3
@Geminisbk3 2 ай бұрын
Wow!!! I am so happy to see you two together. Fantasic video
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@TheEphraimUchiha
@TheEphraimUchiha 2 ай бұрын
Professor Syke is DOPE GLAD YO COLLABED 🔥🔥🔥
@Imanifesto
@Imanifesto 2 ай бұрын
Someone needs to send this to Drakes team
@qyntifex
@qyntifex 2 ай бұрын
amazing commentary and discussion :)
@abyss1138
@abyss1138 2 ай бұрын
Great collaboration! I would love to see Drake take a more personal and honest approach going forward. I just don’t know if his pride/insecurities will let him be that vulnerable. I also think he may view that as doing what Kendrick wants him to do which is stupid but I wouldn’t put it past him.
@mrduckett4006
@mrduckett4006 2 ай бұрын
Great conversation
@jaysemitchells497
@jaysemitchells497 2 ай бұрын
31:00 the Eminem discussion is great, I listen to Deja Vu and it's really a diss track, a lot of what Kendrick says to Drake on Meet The Grahams, Em personally admits to on the song, and it's so beautiful and touching, it feels like he really wants to change it, and he has
@ffwlpe
@ffwlpe 2 ай бұрын
GOAT CONVERSATION 🔥
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
Thank yoU!
@beyondthabottomline5498
@beyondthabottomline5498 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes the professor reminds me of the fry guy on Boondocks
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
HARAMBE!
@imdankarlin
@imdankarlin 2 ай бұрын
As someone who was rooting for Kendrick this whole beef: THANK YOU both for being some of the only people I've seen acknowledge why we dug Drake in the first place. His songs that got hyper-personal about relatable, human emotions were always my favorite. In addition to "Look What You've Done", he did this masterfully on "Club Paradise" and "You and The 6", the latter of which came to mind a lot during "Meet The Grahams"
@Marina-ld3ew
@Marina-ld3ew 2 ай бұрын
Seeing how easily men dismiss the overt disdain (and outright violence) men like Drake and Kanye treat women with is always a disturbing, if needed reminder of what our society values.
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 2 ай бұрын
What violence has Kanye treated women with?
@Marina-ld3ew
@Marina-ld3ew 2 ай бұрын
@@TheCompanyMan A quick Google search will show you how horrifyingly he treats his current wife. He controls every aspect of her life and regularly humiliates her in front of the world. It’s textbook psychological abuse, if not physical abuse (which is also suspected). And let’s not forget his harassment/terrorism of his ex-wife, Kim K, after they split. Stalking her and threatening her & her partner at the time, and publicly humiliating her as well. We can get into him releasing what essentially amounts to revenge porn of Taylor Swift, his support of rapist and pedophile, Donald Trump, his declaration that “Bill Cosby is innocent!!!”, etc. the list goes on.
@Marina-ld3ew
@Marina-ld3ew 2 ай бұрын
@@TheCompanyMan A quick Google search will show you how horrifyingly he treats his current wife. He controls every aspect of her life and regularly humiliates her in front of the world. It’s textbook psychological abuse, if not physical abuse (which is also suspected). And let’s not forget his harassment/terrorism of his ex-wife, Kim K, after they split. Stalking her and threatening her & her partner at the time, and publicly humiliating her as well. We can get into him releasing what essentially amounts to revenge porn of Taylor Swift, his support of rapist and pedophile, Donald Trump, his declaration that “Bill Cosby is innocent!!!”, etc. the list goes on.
@TreFKennedy
@TreFKennedy 2 ай бұрын
Dope vid/Stream Justin
@Imanifesto
@Imanifesto 2 ай бұрын
Great line Company Man. He needs to come down to earth 🌍
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 2 ай бұрын
Love this collab
@m.ayeshaedwards7602
@m.ayeshaedwards7602 2 ай бұрын
Too bad these two failed to discuss all the many Black women who are now former Drake fans because of his misogynoir. Who sided with Kendrick because he stood up for us. How will Drake recover from that. @thecompanyman
@TheAustin668
@TheAustin668 2 ай бұрын
Do you still do shows with Rude Jude? I’d be interested to hear you two discuss this as well.
@Imanifesto
@Imanifesto 2 ай бұрын
Sway doesn’t have the answers, Justin does!
@beyondthabottomline5498
@beyondthabottomline5498 2 ай бұрын
Great convo
@daveythesearcher
@daveythesearcher 2 ай бұрын
I'm late but baby it's all happening. Appreciate you mr. Hunt
@GTACJGrove
@GTACJGrove 2 ай бұрын
OutKast Stankonia is Andre 3000 at his lyrical apex along with The Love Below. Listening back to those albums it’s very imaginative.
@TeagueChrystie
@TeagueChrystie 2 ай бұрын
Man, Prof's idea for Drake's response to Meet the Grahams is genius. (EDIT: 25:38)
@mrD66M
@mrD66M 2 ай бұрын
Drake does not have enough self awareness to do that... if he did, he'd be a completely different person and the beef probably would not have happened
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