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Thanks for having me Steven -- it was an honor and a privilege to share my story with your audience and enjoy the challenge of rising to the challenge of your curiosity and insight. Inspired by your mission and the professionalism of your team -- taking the podcast form to the next level. And to everyone here, I hope I brought some value to your day. In case I didn't succinctly articulate it during the conversation, my primary hope for you to takeaway is that change is possible. We are all capable of more than we imagine. And bringing expression to the more actualized self within is a process of paying attention to your intuition, and taking small actions based upon that daily. Make that commitment to yourself. Be patient and kind -- to yourself and others. And your life will change.🙏🏽✌🏽🌱

I met Rich 634 days ago... why do I know this? Because I was 12 days sober from alcohol addiction. I met Rich and had a mini AA meeting that lasted no more than 5 minutes at the side of a stage at a vegan convention in Vancouver. But in that 5 minutes Rich opened a door for me with the same type of conversational delivery style that he shares in this terrific and honest interview. I'm now sober 646 days... The addiction elevator was indeed going down and Rich helped me hit the stop button. For that I will forever be grateful. 🤟

It's so reassuring to know that massive change and success is still possible after 40. When you get to this age, it can feel like you missed the train. That's a big fear. But I got sober this year and am starting a new career. I hope others here have a positive takeaway for their life!

I started doing 100 mile plus bicycle rides in the mountains of Japan in my 60s. Like you, I found I could barely climb the stairs, which gave me the incentive. I did my biggest ride at the age of 67, 208kms and 4012ms of altitude in one day.

Oh my gosh! I was screaming when I saw this pop up in my feed. Rich Roll is one of the great guiding light for going away from addiction, reinventing yourself and showing how capable you are no matter what age you are in. Thank you so much Steve, for doing this episode!

30 days sober and taking it one day at a time! 70 years old and didn’t want alcohol to rob me of the potential for fulfillment during what likely is the end stage of my wonderful life! I want to go “out” forward not backward!

I am a 48 y.o. hungarian woman/wife/mother living in Germany. I love Rich and I love Steven. This conversation was amazing. I cried at some point. Will watch again i am sure.

"If you can't sit silently with yourself with your thoughts, then you are not living an intentional, examined life - Rumination and boredom, it is the juice of creativity - Protect your boredom and quiet time." This really connected with me, I often blame work for stealing my time and energy, but the truth is I am doing that myself by not scheduling some time aside to be quiet and bored.

One podcast I will rerun and literally make notes and praying at the same time. This to me is spiritual. You can't listen to the discussion only once and be able to inculcate the richness of the discussion. This is soul food. From South Africa

The importance of having a ride or die supportive, life partner is emphasized here and is sadly lacking in society today. What a beautiful gift and powerful testimony!

I am early 40s, a pretty good drummer, currently working as a plasterer. I have just left a job of 5 years working with my Dad designing electric drive systems for classic cars. I am in the process of becoming a professional drummer. I am so scared. I am almost 2 days sober. I was drinking heavily every day and getting high for a long time. This is the conversation I need to hear. Thanks, Steven and Rich. I feel like I need to make this count.

Wow, the story about his wife believing and trusting in the new direction of his life while their financial life was collapsing is truly an inspiring testament of faith.

And here it is finally. My two favourite podcast hosts with the most interesting interviewing techniques and most compassionate souls together. I’m strapped to my chair ready to watch.

I absolutely admire Rich Roll. His transparency and mindset is the one that we should all strive to achieve. Super happy about this episode. Steven - you're the man.

I really needed this. I’m in my 40s and dealing with addiction. I’m one of those functional addicts that had FT jobs and a family so I never thought it was an issue until Covid. WFH really opened the flood gates for daily use. Now I’ve hit rock bottom and in the early stages of transformation. It’s difficult, and I want to go back to my old ways- why? Because it’s a hell of a lot easier to keep doing what i was doing. But I’m on the verge of losing my family and I’ve already lost a job. If I don’t change now, my future can be a dark, lonely one. Thanks for reading. God bless.

Very inspirational. Just remember everyone, you’re more than you think you can be. One day at a time and progress will be made, i promise you that. YOU GOT THIS 💪🙌

I’m only half way through and it’s epic. Rich’s patience to just be so transparent and not give in to the hype he could sell of overnight transformation is so refreshing and touching. ✊🏾

Really love the summary you give at the beginning before the episode starts, really helps us understand what we’re going to get 👏🏾

You gotta love richo, he’s so calm and soothing, he speaks so well his ,word selection is phenomenal

Great listen. Rich is one of my personal heroes. My story is similar to his. I’m 33, recently sober from alcohol (doing it the right way this time), and am just beginning to rebuild my life after blowing it to he**. Rich, you provide many, like myself, with so much hope. I’m trudging through the dark night of my soul, but will keep going. Thank you for being you!

Basically at 1:05:26 Rich is describing how much society has been disconnected from the essence of joy and doing the things we love. I thought recently about the things I loved doing as a young person, glad to hear someone else talk about connecting again with things the were good at and enjoyed as a kid.

One of the most touching interviews you've done although all of them are great. There is just something about Rich which really touches me. As a daughter of an alcoholic and a workaholic, fighting my own demons I really appreciate the inspiration and the advice from him. Such honesty and strength in both of you are a blessing to all of us. 🧡

I wish my late brother had heard about Rich Roll as he was a heavy drinker from age 14 till he died at age 67 from cancer caused by drinking Ethanol 20% about a 1 ltr a day and spun our of control..A breif respite for 6 months in prison helped for a few months after he was released but fell off the wagon so quick and got even worse..We all tried to divert him but to no avail.. I hope other addicts get the message and try to fix their life.. Thanks for this interview.

Wow this is so good and I relate so much. On paper, I haven’t accomplished much. No career, no family, no home, no success, I feel I’ve wasted my 30s. And I’m sober, not addicted. I’m trying to recreate myself nearing the end of my 30s. Without being exhausted or defeated. I lost my mom, and feel lost. What’s next ? …. Great video. Thx . We are not alone

It's phenomenal that we can just press play and listen to podcasts like these. Who'd have thought it when the first mobile phones were released. . . Thanks for all the inspiration.❤

Rich Roll is one of the wisest people I had the honor to listen to❣️Thank you (for your authenticity)❣️

Two my favorite podcasters in one place! Thank you guys you are changing the world!

This was THE BEST episode yet because it was so relatable to every human listener no matter where you are in your life journey! I loved how much he thought about his answers as he was speaking, every word carefully chosen, every sentence was considered and potent in its delivery. Thank you so much both of you for this honest and epic life changing discussion !!

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“You can’t be a Phoenix if you don’t burn in the flames first” BAM

This is one of the most beautiful interviews I have ever watched. I discovered Rich Roll in lockdown times but somehow he had fallen off my radar. Even so, as you said, the openness and vulnerability, and the way Rich takes navigating addiction to simply navigating life and finding your way back to yourself is just wonderful. I will be going to visit my 25 year old daughter who now lives in another part of South Africa in September, and will make sure I watch this again together with her and her partner. There is just so much there for everyone wherever they are in their life. Thank you so much!

I'm amazed by Rich Roll's resilience and determination. His ability to turn his life around and find his true potential is truly motivational. It's a reminder that we all have untapped abilities within us, waiting to be discovered. Keep inspiring us, Rich!

“When the pain experienced by the addict becomes more unbearable than the fear of change, that was where willingness is born.” That is so powerful! I was given this gift a desperation 4 months ago and I’m so grateful!

No other podcast has expanded my mind and provided positive support in the last +4 years like the RichRoll podcast. Buzzing to see this crossover here 🎉

I started participating in cyclothons at age 25 (back in 2010) and running marathons at age 28. Stopped running post-2020 after all the 'work from home' shit where it was all work and no life. I am 37 now and a recent podcast video of Rich inspired me to resume running and also start practicing Ashtanga Yoga (sun salutations and pranayama). Rich Roll surely is one of my big time role models.

Im a recovering alcoholic and Im so glad I got sober. Im a teacher and I am getting healthier as I cleaned up my diet and now Im sprinting to be healthy. Im 54 years young😎

Hands down best one yet. And his answers to the closing question, unbelievable. Standing O to this episode and both participants and the DOACEO staff. Mic drop. Sound the alarm. The world of podcasting has elevated to new heights today. 🎉

Such a great episode. As a guy in his 40s, hearing Rich’s story is truly inspiring.

It's the first time I've seen a guest make Steven more emotional than he makes them ❤

28. Recently implemented OMAD to stop myself issuing food as a distraction. I’m still trying to kick alcohol. Started working out again. I want to start running 5K and get good. Great interview

Universe has sent me gentle nudges to do what I need to, but I haven't listened because it seemed like such a painful experience. But, now it is time to just do it. I've been working on my second novel since 2011. Lots of life events got in way of writing and now I really need to reread my own story because I've forgotten all the nuances and foreshadowing I built in I have to remind myself of. My dream to to be a NY Times Bestselling author. I know odds are against me, but the hell with it. I can't be an accomplished author without this book finished. Regardless of outcome, I need to complete my book.

Rich Roll is a great example of being, and living an authentic life together with his wife and kids. I have watched a few of his podcasts and they are all such a marvel to see. Thank you for a great interview and for being a fantastic and vulnerable host as always Steven. Greetings from South Africa.

I’ve been a Rich Roll fan for the last 10 years and I’ve become a Steven Bartlett fan the last few weeks, so was such a pleasure to watch this interview...thanks Guys 🙏

I can't spend a day without listening to that podcast ✨️

The chemistry between you two is amazing! You have the same mindset and way of seeing life. The dynamic of the dialogue is perfect and you can feel that you both respect and admire each other. Hearing about the personal struggles of Rich Roll is so inspiring. Thank you so much for this episode !

What an amazingly articulate person, loved this.

I prefer these types of guests rather than celebrity ones. I feel you learn a lot more when the ego is removed. They pass over more wisdom. 😊

I love Rich even more after listening to this interview!!! what a special, wise man he is.

What an incredible change! It's hard to trimph when you hold a huge amount of anxiety. But against all odds, he put in the work and got through. Let's go! 💪

I’m only in 9 minutes and I can completely relate to why Steven used alcohol. I did the same. I was socially awkward and I couldn’t flirt for toffee. But alcohol changed that for me. And as I got older I would drink in the evenings to quieten my mind and get some peace, some relaxation. In December 2022 after years of wondering what was wrong with me and drinking too much alcohol I was diagnosed with Inattentive ADHD. It has been life changing for me. Knowing why I think and behave as I do and it’s OK. I don’t have to fix me just understand me. I’ve reduced my alcohol to the weekend but I’m actually at a point where I don’t want to drink any. It always affects my brain negatively the next day. Instead the last 7 weeks I have started going to the gym, learning how to do weights and going to exercise classes. I bloody love it so much more than alcohol. It has given me confidence and my mind is peaceful. I’m looking forward to listening to the rest of this interview.

change happens when the pain of staying the same is greater than the pain of change - Tony Robbins

Rich Roll is a top human, thanks for bringing us into this conversation Steven!

Steven you are the best interviewer I’ve ever listened to. So polite, interesting questions and you give your interviewees time to talk, you don’t interrupt. This was one of the best I’ve listened to. Thank you

Rich you are able to articulate what so many of us feel inside but can’t quite find the words. Refreshing and honest. Thank you!

This podcast seem to be taking about all I have been through. I was once addicted to workout it almost took my life. I ended up having eating disorder, became suicidal crazy mental health issues. Now struggling to balance in micro. Thank you Steve

OMG! 2 of the best interviewers on the planet (with the best voices) thanks guys - this is epic x

I’ve heard of Rich Roll but never heard him speak, very impressed with his frank honesty, vulnerability and damn palpable integrity. He really really knows himself ❤

Thank you for this. I dont want to settle for a mediocre life. I want excitement, purpose and adventure. That is what my spirit yearns for. I wish everyone the courage to live their their dreams.

As someone with ADHD who is reaching their 40th birthday in eight months, and who is at a pretty low point... a lot of this interview really, really, really got through to me. You both have a new subscriber. 🙏♥

This is exactly what I am needing in this moment in time; it cannot just be a coincidence. God is guiding me through this knowledge. Forever grateful for every meaningful and enlightening podcast you bring.

This interview gave me a new perspective about the way I see myself. I’m an intense/obsessed person by nature and I always got a lot of self guilt because of it. I needed to be ok with it and this really helped me to see that. There is no beginning to any change until oneself begins to accept and embrace who we are.

I'm only 15 minutes in to this and it is one of my favourite episodes so far. Thank you both for sharing this wonderful, insightful conversation ❤❤

Great stuff! Left the military after a 26 years successfully career thinking I had nailed it - which I did. Now I’m in a completely new environment and trying to establish myself, this has helped me shape some thoughts as to how succeed again. Thanks 🙏

This man is a treasure to society and needs to be protected at all costs.

"How much pain are you willing to tolerate before you're willing to course correct?" - so so deep, and a super important question to anyone who's been going through periods of life that seem repetitive and painful. That question alone is so enlightening in many ways, and it's only 3 or 4 seconds of this interview. Good watch. 10 out of 10 recommend.

In and out of the loop of alcohol, drugs and toxic relationships, that was what I did. I was a professional therapist. The Universe shook me by the shoulders and told me I would not make it through the future unless I stopped. Thank you for sharing your experience, strength and hope.

The intelligence and humility displayed is inspiring to all. Thank you both.

If there was anyone in this world to interview Rich Roll, I’m glad that it was Steven and it was on this Podcast. I’m listening to a second round of this and Steven did a phenomenal job with his questions, once again. Watching hours of Rich Roll interviewing others, I couldn’t wait to hear his story ❤ Thank you to you both

So pleased to see Rich on this podcast!!! He expouses wisdom and is deeply humble. What a great combination of minds and transformational inspiration.

Being somebody Who has Accomplished Quite a bit Spiritually on this Earth, I must say Love these kinds of Conversations, obviously. Truly inspiring!

Probably the best podcast you’ve done to date, thoroughly enjoyed this as I found it relating to my life. Thank you

Suffer the pain of discipline or the pain of regret.

I just love Rich Roll so much. What he puts out into this world is sure to help so many people. He speaks with compassion, curiosity, understanding, and kindness. I appreciate that his content doesn't set out to divide, which we have so much of these days but content from himself and people who are making a positive difference in this world. Even though he is an extreme athlete he has a realistic and gentle approach to life. I feel like his delivery and his perspective makes it accessible for people to question their own lives and their own path.

I changed my life at 40, too! After so many years of total chaos and inner/outward destruction. Still working on changes but it's constant transformation and growth til the day I die. God willing. And you jerks either aren't aware of the damage you're causing another human being with a f***ing beating heart, or you just don't care..I choose to believe the latter. It's too awful to think otherwise. Be safe out there everyone.

This guy has some real gems! “If you want to be a phoenix, you have to burn in the fire”. I’ve gone through this process numerous times.

Steven and Rich. What a lovely life story, told not in words but painted in my minds eye. Rich you told my life story. The alcohol addiction, the bullying, the mother who gave too much love, the broken marriage. I truly enjoyed, and soaked up every moment, every turn in the road. I wish you well Rich. And Steven also. Thank you so much to both of you for this. John alcoholic, greatfully 33 years sober.

We appreciate interviews like this. They're detailed and insightful.

I like you, kid. I subscribed and have been. Thank you for what you guys do. When I grew up we had black and white TV with an antenna on the roof. Microwaves weren't invented yet. 13 channels and TV broadcasting stopped at 12am. Rocky one came out and my father went to the movies. You would have thought someone was getting married. Major cultural event. Fast forward to today. I'm 50 now. I had to wait for you guys to be born and become adult to do this work so I could look and see with my own eyes....... " See, I knew I was right, I'm not crazy and everybody is lieing to me on purpose " It was a long wait and most people my age are already packing it in in one form or another. I endured. I waited. I'm just getting started. Here we go! Thank you. God is all things! Bless you your parter your crew and all your guests. Past present and future.

I don't know Julie but maaaaan SHE is f’n amazing‼️ a true gift

Thank you Rich, thank you Steven and the Team. Extremely humble, relatable, emotional, very approachable, absorbing, helpful and stimulating Guest and episode. 🙏🏽❤☀️

I actually love Rich Roll. What a man!

i have never clicked on play so fast in my life! Two of my favorite conversationalists.... I know this will be a compelling discussions 🙂

I really appreciate his story. I am transitioning away from a physically and mentally demanding business I started 15 years ago and have been doing so with solo long distance backpacking. I need hope that there is something better ahead for me.

I'm 44 and currently in the process of overcoming alcoholism. I made the mistake of using hard liquor as a means to medicate chronic pain, and got up to drinking more than 750ml of bourbon a day. I know that I HAVE to quit..... At this point, I don't even drink to get drunk. I drink for fear of the possible withdrawals..... I'm having to slowly ween myself off with the help of my wife. I've only had 4 shots today. Hopefully I can sleep through the pain.... It sucks waking up soaked in sweat.....

The last points summed it all up 1- Be comfortable with you you are; 2- Live lean 3- Be adventurous. Thankyou! Another great Q&A.

Seriously one of the best podcasts yet. Rich's story is one that I myself have paralleled. Ultra-Endurance Racing WILL change your outlook on life. Thank you for this and sharing it with the world!!

“You don’t need to earn love” 😭 I needed to hear that!

I am glad that the 'addiction continuum' was raised early on. Usually only the professionals have this understanding and realise that the stage one of addiction is usually identifiable very early on - usually decades before anyone else or the addict realises that they have an issue. In Buddhism part of the language is 'affliction'. In English, that means 'a state of pain, grief, distress, misery'. But the process of denial, of psychological defences, means that the affliction is a psycho-social illusion/delusion - a cognitive distortion with emotional components. Some people can see the financial or career effects of alcohol abuse. Very few can see how the use of drugs and alcohol and other addictions/compulsions/afflictions damage ones' developmental trajectory across adulthood. It is rare too, for people to realise the damage to one's psycho-social functioning and evolution. I think we also need to be really careful to no longer glorify the notion that 'suffering and pain is good, brave, desirable, strong'. So I like Rich Roll's version of 'comfort zone' and easing out of it into some discomfort. To reinforce his notion of the inner journey. When we become unbalanced and addicted, we have struggled with the inner processes and therefore the inner processes are unknown and unfully formed. When we develop the psycho-social skills (the inner journey) we start cultivating the self hood in an ongoing often joyous process. Choosing joy - drive or dragged? We make ourselves miserable by CHOOSING to feel unhappy. I have a friend who throughout autumn, tells herself " I hate the cold, I hate winter, Oh nooo, this winter is going to be cold and miserable". Of course, having practiced that misery and hatred, she feels awful during winter. She chose misery and practiced it until she was good at it! Choose joy, or at least choose to be at peace with some things.

Wow, truly amazing interview. Lots of golden nuggets and insights shared by Rich, through his direct experiences and reflections - deep. And great questions posed Stephen. I personally gain a lot of inspiration and motivation who have gone through the tough journey of life and come out the other end. You have my attention and of course respect, Rich. Thank you for this interview 🌟💝

Really the conversation one would like to listen to repeatedly... Rich Roll u have every right to be proud of urself..

Silence truly is golden ... I love the peace and bliss of just hanging out with me, myself and I ... 🙏 Ngā mihi guys ... Much aroha from 💚Aotearoa NZ ...

Tks for bringing Rich Roll. His podcast is one of my faves. It's great to hear him being interviewed instead of interviewing.

2 of my favourite podcasters in this world ...having an honest insightful conversation ....Rich your story is my story ...listening to you describe your relationship with alcohol just made mine cower slowly back into my fannypack .As u vulnerably articulated your story ,you put words to mine.Thank you for sharing ...and making us realise we are truly not alone on this pale blue dot...You may have saved a life today..sending gracias to both of you from zambia

Man this is so good. It's absolutely true that it's never too late to completely change your life.

Thank you both of you! This a special interview! God Bless You!

Rumination & Boredom... Brilliant Correlation made! I truly hope more people catch on to the fact that escapism is not a way to live a life

Rich Roll, such wisdom. Thanks Rich and Steven for your commitment to excellence and for the willingness to be betterment accelerants.

This is very inspiring, and so are many of the comments. Thank you all so very much. I was an alcoholic. The reasons aren’t important, but addiction makes life incredibly difficult. I turned 50, and I decided to do different difficult things. In December, I hiked a snowy mountain in Poland for 3.5 hours, in swimwear. I spent a week pushing my limits on cold exposure. A structured situation snapped me out of my comfort zone. I realised that I was more than I had previously understood. Now I’m navigating life in a different way. There are still significant obstacles. I’m ready to tackle them now.

Changing your life is always hard work, especially once you have fallen into addiction, but I think it is also important to understand that it becomes exponentially more difficult to achieve when you have little to no resources available to you.