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Well who did you let into the Market.... The one that popularize the counterfit starts with C and ends with A 5 letters

First illegal Nike products were intoduced to the market by Nike themselves. It is Nike who contracted manufacturing of their products to subcontractors in Asia who had multiple legal issues. Nike did this for only one reason - more profit. Rest is just a consequence of Nike closing eyes on those legal issues.

@@tiefblau2780 CANADA

@@homelessguy4395 LoL

My ex works in a sweatshop with her mother sewing underwear, she was getting about $250 a month before the attempted suicide.

@@nicholas7548 I believe it

A lot of the stuff is hand made in Europe too

It's only crime when it hurts the capitalist overlords

Big brands can be held accountable if they commit these crimes and be forced to fix them, but how can anyone hold these fake manufacturers to any sort of labour standard?

I live in central Africa , you have tons of fake sneakers imported here , they are even sold on the pavement by street vendors . A pair a fake new air Jordan is around $10 , I'm just disgusted , there's no more prestige in buying genuine NIKE or any other branded shoes , because people walking around you wear fake cheap ones that is similar to yours

⁠@@tunkunrunkYou do have an advantage though, as originals will last much longer and of course will give you that feeling of superiority you want for wearing an original.

@@hongkong8907 but you're the only one who know you have genuine ones on feet , counterfeits are so realistic these days

I always go for *suluxs* , their quality is great. and for authenticators to not be able to detect it as a fake

@@tunkunrunk That's what matters mate, you're thinking about what others think way to much. Do you think the people wearing fakes care what people think? You're wearing the real deal, that should be a personal reassurance. Seems to me though, that all you really want is the prestige and flex power. In that regard, you can only help yourself, because people wearing fakes will always be there, especially more so if you live in less fortunate areas.

Yessir

I mean, I like the design. But I like saving hundreds of dollar more.

So you want to pretend to be rich by buying the fake product? How about making a point of refusing to wear trainers from the big overblown brand name companies and that way, society could fight back. Instead, you proudly wear the fake brand name, pretending it's legit, making the big brand name more of a draw. You are helping the big brands out by playing the boasting game!

@@dobythedog When I wear reps, I don't go around telling everyone that I'm wearing original. If they ask, I'll tell them I wear reps.

​@ders__2151I can only imagine you having AIDs...

exactly, it will pop somewhere

if they were at the same price Sketchers most people will not be interested, people want to flex with their expensive/limited sneakers

Facts.

@@MessyPointedBlob they are trying to catchup since it's the "wacky" brand. Artificially increasing the price works on people

Money.

Nailed it 100%. They just want to protect their organised racket.

There is a difference

Agreed! Why tf are people spending so much money? They love giving their money to rich corporations.

@@vade248721 These should be illegal and the people making them need to be sued to oblivion and jailed with the key thrown away

Perhaps because fakers are free riding as far as marketing and designing is concerned. So.... in my opinion you nailed it like 75%.

The Chinese could just make a really nice shoe that doesn't look exactly like a Nike and sell that for cheaper.... Which you could buy

Yeah this,.

@@testing6753 Do you think Nike *needs* to made a gross profit of $20 billion every year?

@@anonnymous4684 This is the problem with capitalism in it's current form.

​@@testing6753 What you on about? Profits on clothing are insane, cheaply produced sold expensive. Did you miss the part where they explained shoe manufacturers create scarcity on purpose?

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You are funding the proceeds of organized crime. Take a bow, my friend.

A shoe is a shoe...I go to Lidl.

Exactly. Even if we are willing to pay $180 for a pair of shoes companies like Nike make it extremely easy for scalpers with bots to take all the inventory and resell it for $500. It’s unfair to the consumer

@@juanesburbano8372 "It’s unfair to the consumer." Market capitalism doesn't work that way. If the consumer does not think they are worth the money - they simply switch to an alternative product that they see as a better value. You won't see me paying over $100 for a regular pair of shoes as long as there are alternatives that are better values. But I will avoid 'no-name' brands because they are likely not worth the low prices due to low quality. Some people are willing to pay the extra money to buy a status symbol, and if that makes them happy - then that's their decision. And this is the point - people are free to buy whatever they want - as long as they are not getting cheated by a fake item.

Ad long as resellers continues to rob the regular sneakers lovers, reps will continue to bloom

umm while this is true in a sense, but it's not working for those "fashion" brands. theres a lot of product that have great quality, produce with ethics, but people didn't even know they exist. why? because you only create the demands trough strategic marketing, advertisement, startegically pushing it through media channel/touchpoints. they only produce goods with a decent quality. that what most leading brands are doing.

​@@bandotzzZThey all produce their clothes in sweatshops so quality is random. One pair of Nike even broke during marathon so what are we talking about? If you really want to show off buy a pug with a high pedigree. Vet will cost a fortune and pugs are dumb but they are cute and don't even need to take long walks.

thank you

They use bots to outbid actual buyers so they can horde the shoes then resell them at outrages prices, all while the companies purposely continue to make limited runs knowing full well that the majority of their product is bought up by these people.

This is true. Nike panda dunks was valued at around 150usd during its initial releaese but resellers hoarded everything. They ended up selling it in our area for around 300 usd.

@@les0218 Yup, exactly. However I am glad that the sneaker market is not that great rn. I’ve seen some pretty popular dunks and jordans sitting on shelves at stores like JD and Footlocker. Big W for genuine buyers.

True. Gucci dupes are even made out of better materials. Dupes will be made out of gold while original 9ut of bras. Seems like Gucci turned into Zara when it comes to materials being cheap

Why

@@unicorntomboy9736 because a regular dude cant afford 1000 $ shoes

Bruh, even rich people also wears fakes It's just mostly an issue to some resellers, sneaker heads, Hypebeast, or in sneaker convention

But the sellers become rich, so now blessing again.

@@havencat9337 but why?

It actually shows their Hypocrisy, they want most profit, they choose cheap manufacturing but want rich buyers, it's the same process of manufacturing done for a cheap asset Edit : Asset I SAY

They're made in the same factory lol

Shoes are not just manufactured in China. It doesn’t matter where it’s made. As long as they can get a legit pair, they can tear it up and recreate it exactly. It’s a shoe not some complicated machinery

Blueprints are the same, they change the material

@@user-lk4jd5yc8d but majority are manufactured for a fraction of the price they get sold for. There are also counterfeit manufactureres in Bangladesh, India and other cheap laber countries the original shoes are made

thats copium for people who buy reps

This is da wae

I love reps financially it's the better choice how ya argue against math 🤣

Y'all can also buy past models of the shoes or when it's on sales (Like Nike Lebron 19/18's are way cheaper than the 20's), it's cheap and most of it's prices are almost the same with reps. Plus y'all can also get the original tech on them.

The thing that hurt me is. I dont know which counterfitter that recommended in my place. I scare that the quality is way worse than the cheap price it provide.

Retro Jordan reps are often high quality. AJ1s are something these shops can make in their sleep. Now if you're trying to get shoes that came out in the past 5 years you're probably gonna get low quality stuff.

👀in uk we have free health care

@@lifeaddict It's not actually free, but paid by taxpayer's pounds.

@@yengsabio5315 rather have my tax be used to pay for my health someday than a bomb dropped in 3rd world country

@@sushitrash4949 As long as you have a trustworthy, properly tax-spending government, paying tax is not an issue.

@@lifeaddict Yeah but the catch is you have to live in the UK 😂

Not really. Gucci at some point in their history almost got broke because of copies. But it really makes no sense to buy expensive stuff when it is all made in sweatshops so you gain bad karma for every purchase

Sounds like american dream to me

That's exactly how illiterates talk you don't even know how supply chain,branding and business works .A Pokemon Card doesn't take evn 10 cents to make yet few of them are thousands and millions .Depends on brand history ,name ,supply chain ,supply demand and countless other things.if it's simply expensive don't buy.I never bought a branded item ever and yet i know how this works.Anything you buy isn't actually it's make price ofc.

@@AmritenduRana31082000 chill dude no need to go all mental with me with some shoes.

@@AmritenduRana31082000 I study logistics and engineering so jokes on u. I know exactly how it works, more than u know haha.

@@GazzaDazzle Well go ahead and demand a refund your college did a horrible job educating you about logistics.

Oooff

Not really when you infringe trademark

@@RavarsenBlogspot trademark is overrated when you are robbing wealth from the poor, capitalism needs to be punished

I reckon that makes no sense: if markets are efficient at allocating, then the originals' prices reflect their exact worth given some supply and demand. The way I see it, generally speaking, counterfeits are a separate market for those who cannot access the legal fashion market.

@@eduardosanmiguel8132 "who cannot access..." Because?

@@RavarsenBlogspot Trademark is a separate issue from how the market operates.

They are accesible, ive bought tons

That will be theft from the companies that created the originals.

plenty on the internet. you ain't looking!!

@@edema.3418 and?

@@peyton.simpson got any links for secure websites?

Dennis you intellectual, true as truth(pure)

Not possible to find shoes for less than £100 in the UK

​@@Fbs723 yes it is

broke 🫵😹

@@Fbs723you live under a rock

Most of the time the issue isn't the retail for example with Nike and Adidas. The issue is that those companies I just mentioned make some of their most hyped releases extremely limited quantities that when their released on their apps bots buy all the stock immediately and then resellers resell them at extortionate prices. This makes a lot of people mad so as a protest to Nike and Adidas for not combating bots, they buy counterfeits or "reps". Resellers and Brands inaction to counter bots are the real problem. Buying at retail price for hyped limited releases would be a blessing for most.

@Cringe City dhgate reps are usually garbage though, there are better apps or websites to use

@@ryadhasanahmed5443 Ohh I see, thank you. Though I would say the stupidly high price at retail (in my opinion of course) is still an issue lol. But didn't know that bots (the limited supply) was the main reason people buy counterfeits, thanks.

@@ryadhasanahmed5443 Does " "reps" " in your post mean "replicas" ? Not sure.

@@-First-Last Yes, reps is short for replicas

I would like to see real stories and evidence of that because who knows if it is some made-up accusation by those who want you to feel guilty for buying counterfeits.

And? Big companies are also involved in it. Nike for example. You can learn it in behind the shwoosh documentary

They are selling "bling". Supply has to be limited.

Are you not into Nake?

@@ETS186 bro said nake ☠️☠️

​@@ETS186 I am into Vens New Skool.

@@ETS186 nahh man I’m a Pamu guy

@@behrozzafar8447 I'm into old balance dad shoes

I love my Nikes, pay £65 ish when on sale from £100 ish on average. But man they wear out fast and I don’t even walk much mileage in them. Average weight/height. Adidas always outlast but not as stylish for me

100% agree

@Rockshy that would probably have a big impact if the production was small but most of these shoes are industrially commercilazed. we are talking on the orders of the millions. This allow big economies of scales not only for production costs but marketing costs. in addition in a lot of cases brands like nike or adidas have been caught exploiting countries in which labour protection is poor if non existant and salaries are extremely low. Even if you add marketing, taxes, design cots and potential shippings costs the overall price of making these shoes is at best 25% of the final price sold in developed countries. This leaves a huge amount of the overall final price depending on the brand's image and not on the quality of the product itself. I would be much more deceived on the producers practices than on the marginal gains that are represented by counterfeiters (this doesnt mean that i approve of counterfeiting practices but if brands want to limit their widespread they shoudl probably lower down prices to match the real quality of their products).

They may not last the same and then the brand gets a bad name

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no it's not - nobody is forcing you buy those "luxury" shoes...

@@mater753s agreed. However I would be more inclined to care about them if they were quality? Like there's a difference between expensive because of brand name alone and expensive because they use better materials, superior build etc etc. The only reason I excuse "name brand only" is of there is really not equivalent to the design language of said brand.

The real crime is that when Trump wanted to ban products made by child labour and slavery nike went to the highest court in the land to get guarantees it could continue using slaves

Brother send me website, i never bought shoes that look nice because they are too expensive and i was made to belive that replicas are terrible

@@ieatpeople3159 Well, I never bought shoes off a website. I go to SE Asia and get them there. I see and feel, compare and contrast perhaps hundreds of shoes before purchasing even one.

@@ieatpeople3159 Vietnam made replicas are just as durable as the original at $10 to 40$😂

@@Hook1229 bro in SE Asia we people call that price premium so yes companies has to offer for that price same goes for rich countries like USA where a 20 dollars are cheap and 100 dollars are high price for the brand value.

My Nike Cortez made in Indonesia literally destroyed within 3 years

Only counterfeit manufacturers will say that fakes and authentics come from the same factory. They literally create new and improved batches of fakes over time lol

I bought a fake Nike shoes in 2015 at just 10$. It was almost exact one to one copy. That shoe went on to serve me for 4 years of rugged use when it finally gave away in 2019. Although now prices have risen but you can get similar shoes at 15-20$>

@@schrodinger1811 Irrelevant. Quality and durability is not the reason why those Nikes are super expensive.

@@NE0C0R7EX i am talking about quality and durability of the fake ones. And they looked exactly same like orignal. You can disagree but for most people orignal shoes are bought for that very reason.

@@schrodinger1811 Nope. No one buys Off White 1s expecting $3,000 worth of leather.

I think they would do care. It takes money away from the genuine products

bro really out here defending a billion dollar company that doesnt care about him or anyone else besides their own shareholders 🤡🤡

Also blessing the factory who actually made most effort producing it, usually get 0.1% on a $1000 shoes

It being counterfeited doesn't really matter if the quality is actually better, but counterfeited goods in 9 times of of 10 are likely to be worse.

Yeah rep manufacturers are simply providing competition. Big companies should stop crying and make a product that would compete with the price range of reps. I think big companies have forgotten how supply and demand works.

not for electronics

My real Louis wallet has outlasted my friends 3 fake ones

Yeah, as if China truly cares about western copyright laws… China cares about China, that’s it.

@@nintendokings why the actual fck do the western corporations want their products to be made in china, why not made in India or THE STATES itself.

I thought Chinese are smart, why dont they just create their own original brand to compete with western brand. All they do is copy

They literally only had a brief spike in crackdown activity during the few months earlier this year before the Beijing Olympics - now it's pretty much back to business as normal besides production slowing due to the lockdowns (really mimicking the supply issues of the luxury brands haha)

Europeans use to counterfeit Chinese porcelain and stole its production method as porcelain is the only ceramic able to withstand boiling water so it was much coveted. Not only that Europeans also conducted industrial espionage to steal Chinese tea plants and tea production methods because they were so obsessed with tea.

Only shoes worth $1000 are rare or high end fashion brand ... you can get authentic adidas or Nike for cheap on sale

You are very right and also the media and the culture has adopted that kind of life as the only definition of success so people start building that idea that those items are going to make them finally happy and they are going to have a great life because of that. Not considering all the implications like all the exploited people that manufacture that + the evident ecological impact + consumismo

Quality is often the same. Did you know that Victoria's Secret made bras out of acrylic? That material is toxic and evokes skin allergies.

U mean philippines

@@twtce I mean all SM department stores in the Philippines 😂

By that logic every single company that sells expensive brandname clothing is “responsible” for the counterfeit version of their clothes. That’s absolute BS. There is literally nothing wrong with clothing companies wanting their products to be exclusive and thus exclusively priced, because these are not products you need for your survival and no one is forcing you to buy anything. Your entitlement is transparent and comical

People aren't dying or suffering because they can't buy these sneakers, these aren't food or fuel Calling a legitimate business strategy as "organized crime" is hilarious

@@rickywinataa tell that to the people working 24/7 to make those shoes as a living. These guys died making shoes with below minimum wage, extra working hours, no compensation, and some even lost a leg or arm.

@@doggos3446 so the same conditions of work that you'd find in the Nike manufacturing factories then? But that's not criminal it's legitimate.

Lies again? Baby FCB

@@matthewgee8122 yep, nike are the absolute Skum of the earth. Its Well documented regarding nike slavery and child labour but most don't care and the sheer number of nike customers who pretend to be against slavery but give nike there money to purchase more slaves is ridiculously high. Really wierd. I won't buy any product that uses slaves or child labour. Electric car owners are the Skum of the earth.

Then later added the organized crime part. Well if there is organized crime involved in the ame factory that the original is made then what exactly is the difference?

Shaking my head

@@nusaibahibraheem8183 the only difference is one is sold directly from Nike. The other isn’t.

Yess

I'm really curious about what part of China you were teaching in lol. 95% is way too high compared to I what observes.

@@user-hc8cn6uf8m Things change pretty quickly once you get outside the big shopping areas of shanghai and beijing. I lived in SH, BJ, Jiangsu, Jiangxi, Shandong, I've traveled to many smaller towns/cities. I have not lived in china since 2019 however, doubt much as changed. 95% is no too high, think about it.. it's China, they make the fakes there. I'm not hating on those guys, I, myself have many pairs of AJs, Max airs that are fake that i brought home.

Replica

I was in China when the whole thing started in the 2010s. It basically works like this: a Nike-contracted factory will import more materials than it needs, which is normal because sometimes you mess up a pair or two. But they import way more than the regular margin, and they use the rest to produce the ""fakes". But since they don’t have enough plastic labels (the one inside your shoes that tells you the size, which is made elsewhere), they have to fake those. So this is why most authenticators will check the plastic labels first. And as you mentioned, the "reject/defective" ones are also sometimes sold, albeit the factories are required to slice them up to destroy them.

Yup but why paying 6K for boots made in sweatshops when you could go to an artisan and pay 1K for the same design. Paying the same money for a pug with high certificate would make more sense. Obviously vet would cost fortune but you do it to show off and you get a nice dog. Dumb as it can be but nice

These are not 'excess profits.' This is a company that made smart decisions and is making a product that is in high demand. People are willing to buy them at that price, so both the buyers and sellers are happy. And fakes are almost universally of lower quality than the real high-end product.

for LUXURY goods it looses its appeal if it becomes affordable to the masses. rich people want exclusivity rich people dont to look at an average joe able to buy the watch that the rich people rock with . STATUS SYMBOL .

@@colincampbell767 “High-end” but literally made in the same factory with the same material. Stop being fooled by name brands and marketing

@@colincampbell767 "High-end" ????

@@-First-Last Yes. 'high end.' Designer tablet keyboards for Italy are one example. And consumer electronics and accessories are another example. (For example, if you buy "brand new" Microsoft or Apple products on Ebay - at best you're getting refurbished products that are being misrepresented as brand-new. And the accessories (such as power adaptor are counterfeits that don't put out the watts that the real ones do) tend to also be cheap counterfeits. In fact - stay away from Ebay altogether is you want to be sure that you're getting a quality 'name brand' product instead of a cheap knockoff. I keep telling my wife that she should start a You Tube channel that shows people how to detect counterfeit or misrepresented products. About the only way for most people to be sure that they're getting the real thing is to only buy from retailers that are large enough to allow them to buy directly from the factory.

Fake products are for fake people 🤷‍♂️ + it shows you don’t care about what the Interpol guy at the end was saying about the criminal ties these rep manufacturers have

@@nintendokings people aren't fake, it's that particular persona. Which they choose to seem, If you don't find the original product feasible you must go for something which is, as well as comfortable no matter it's a fake, i had bought a fake reebok shoe 7 years ago, it has been abandoned by me but, goodness is as comfortable as you would expect a real one

I can assure you some counterfeit goods have surpassed the quality of certain brands. Just look at new Nike releases and all the issues their shoes are having with quality, mold, bad material choices and wrong sizes being sent.

@@loves_rapid_development You know you don’t have to resort to an illegal fake if you want something affordable? There are legit options at cheaper price ranges. You know this. The truth is you want the look & the logo of the expensive product, just not the price tag, and don’t care about supporting criminal organisations. That’s why fake products are for fake people.

Poor ppl 😂

100% correct. Also the technology for their popular lifestyle shoes are the same throughout the years. No reason why the shoes’s retail value should increase.

Yeah I don't get when fanboys feel they have a personal affinity with the company. I don't need to do Nike any favors, I just want to buy myself a cheap shoe. My wants and needs come first before any company. I don't get when fanboys feel like it's their responsibility to become a knight in shining armor for their beloved company.

Imagine them if they find out you wear a fake pair of shoes lol

@@davidbarth80 What is a fake shoe? If they cover your feet, they're a real shoe.

@@One.Zero.One101 Wearing or using pricey items from "renowned" brands is a badge of honor for many consumers, it gives social status. I'm not excusing them, I also think it's silly.

Yes sir I got the reverse mochas and when I went to the outlets and mall I got alot compliments by everyone and one even told me he would buy them from me for 650

Same here. I have 2 LJR Batch AJ 1s (Handcrafted & Smoke Grey/Red) and I pair of OG Low Chicago 1s…I get compliments all of the time… I’m gonna cop the Black Canvas 4’s next month, and the UNC Low SB/OG AJ 1s too.

I got myself Jordan 4 Bred kw batch from CSJ and they are amazing quality and very comfortable. Never again will I spend a cent in shoe stores.

Where is that you guys are getting these from ?

@@spiderpimp33 Which site do you use?

None has to listen to your suggestion either. Their money, their choice.

Haha China copycats go brrrrrrrr

can only be done with easily manufactured products. Can't print an oil painting. Can print a million serigraphs.... Athletic shoes are obviously mass produced, easy to knock-off; only difficulty is the shoe's promotion by athletes.