why can a Satanist and a Christian have a civil conversation. But a liberal and conservative battle to get a word in just so one can be proven right or wrong but not admit to it? blows my mind.

satanist guy - "i just lost my drummer, tony got shot, and travis killed himself." jesse - "Amazin"

When a satanist come off as smarter and more decent than 90% of Jesse's other guests.

Came here a fan of Vital Remains. Left a fan of JLP.

Absolutely wonderful two people showing respect and having a conversation. Great show!

A genuine conversation between two different world views. It is so refreshing.

Jesse asks all the right questions. He doesn’t interrupt, he lets his guest express himself. Really great interview.

I love how Jesse will let them talk if they are being honest, but if they are just spouting words that have no meaning he just talks over them. He doesn’t want to waste his time and I love it

A guest that gives straight answers very nice!!

One thing I really like about Jesse is he is not afraid to have any guest on his show regardless of their views.

First off, I'm a devout Christian. Having said this (and this may surprise), I do appreciate this man's character and thoughtfulness in many (but certainly not all) ways. I'm also thoroughly trained in science and theology through the graduate level, and I had to facepalm when he posed the tired, false dichotomy between religion (or more appropriately, transmaterialism, metaphysics, and the supernatural) and science. I could write a treatise on why it's literally impossible for the two to be at odds, and showing how science itself is inescapably founded on many unprovable presuppositions that must be taken on faith, ironically, just like the faith traditions (i.e., world religions). When one understands formal philosophy, logic, and especially epistemology, these things become crystal clear. Anyways, I'd love to have a conversation with the man. God bless him, and I pray he is given a revelation on repentance and forgiveness. Working in the mental health field, I've seen many aspects of the human condition repeat so often that I know firsthand why they're so axiomatic. One is this: holding onto bitterness and unforgiveness is like swallowing poison and expecting it to hurt someone else; it is an inexorable force that will absolutely catch up with you, eventually, and the havoc it wreaks is horrendous. I hope and pray he never experiences that.

This guy thinks he is going to judge God he is in for a very rude awakening. Talk about pride

This is supposed to be the way you dialog folks.......even when you vehemently disagree!!!

what's interesting is that a satanist is more honest, intellectually honest, willing to concede points and ideas to the host, open minded, and thoughtful than most of the guests on this show. especially politicians and black activists.

I can see him becoming a Christian when he has a child

Intelligent young man,I’m sorry to hear he don’t believe in Christ.clearly he is holding a lot of pain

This conversation was one of the best. Great season 5 premiere Jesse!

I may not agree with him on some things, but this guy seems like a damn solid person.

Impressive interview. Very civilized. I'm praying for this man!

Awesome interview! I met Brian at a Vital Remains show in Detroit a few years back with Vader and Sacrificial Slaughter. He called me out on stage, and said I looked like Kerry King. Lol. We had a chat and a beer after. Excellent times!

I dont agree with this guy's satanic views but he gives lots of insight 😯

This guy was so smart and humble. Seems like a great dude

Why doesn't Jesse tell the guy his mom is evil the same way he does when a black guest says the same thing.

Using dechristianize as the outro is so epic. Best interview so far

I was an Atheist, never really believed in anything than in my early 20's I ended up delving into Satanism for the experience not really taking it seriously, but I ended up seeing and hearing some strange shit that I couldn't explain and I ended up in an extremely dark place against my will. after about a month I started to believe that maybe there is something more to life than meets the eye and that this could actually be real, and ever since I keep getting these hints that it is. I'd like to explain and go into detail but this comment will be way longer than what it already is, it's been almost 10yrs now and since than I've been on a journey to find God and to become a Christian, I'm just still trying to find myself and doing it in my own way and at my own pace, and I feel that I'm real close. I just hope I don't run out of time

Most likable satanist ever. Praying for him.

Satanic or no-satanic I like this guy

I really like this guy. I hope he finds Jesus❤️

What the *_ACTUAL FUCK?!?_* _How did I not know this existed?!?_ I love Vital Remains! Even though I am not a Satanist. And to know he stands against sjws?! This is crazy.

This is one of the best interviews so far! Though Jesse and Brian have totally different beliefs, they came together and had a wonderful interview. Brian was very logical and straight forward, unlike many guests.

I never thought of myself as a conservative either but I’ve always thought the government should stay out of my life. He hit the nail on the head with the way I feel when he said I support gun rights for gay married couples. Do what you want as long as you don’t hurt and or respect the rights of others. Glad I watched this. I’m not a satanist but I am into metal and punk and hardcore music. I have lost friends because of the last election. I feel like a lot of people in the music community have been fooled by the propaganda of the left because they get their political news from late night comedians or just mainstream media news without digging any deeper. It drives me crazy how people can think they are for freedom are really useful idiots for communism and Trump is like the punk rock president in my opinion, yet it seams like most of the punks etc don’t like it. I will check out his band Vital Remains. Thanks.

I love how Jesse is able to speak with any person from any walk of life with genuine understanding and empathy, while still getting his point across. I love civil discourse. Leftists literally aren’t capable of it.

Wow he answered your questions Jesse! That's rare.

The pendulum has swung the other way. I used to be a "tolerant" liberal, but I had to disavow the fascist tactics of the left. I am a centrist like Brian Werner. I already liked Jesse Lee Peterson, and now I like him even more. He has the ability to have a conversation with someone, even if he disagrees with them. We need more open dialogues as we have seen here on this video.

I love it when they have their sharp answers and not in the form of intellectually sharp, but sharp with intent to harm, and Jesse shrugs it off like peanut butter and jam with the next question... Love it..

This conversation is the kind you learn and grow with and enjoy

Two of the realest dudes ever.

I think Jesse's being a bit delusional about this whole father bit. This guy hasn't forgiven his father and doesn't want anything to do with him because he was a shitty human being. That doesn't make him an alcoholic and abusive to women because he doesn't want to be around his biological father, who did. I don't know where this kind of ideology is coming from but it has no merit.

I noticed that when jesse has real satanist or witches on his show; he doesn't troll them.

This is incredible! What an excellent conversation, no back and fourth only progressive flow forward! And I loved that Scar Face nod.

Best interview I've ever watched. Beautiful. Honest and open. Both men a credit to rationalism. Keep it going.

I am cringing that I had a lot in common with a Satanist. This was an enlightening conversation.

So great to see someone articulate on the show.

This is an amazing interview. The fact that they were respectful to each other is wonderful, regardless of obvious differences.

my fav question is, "what is a Man?"

"I will give him ample time to explain himself before I judge him (God.)" Haha...I literally laughed out loud to this.

He quoted a Bill Burr joke at 34:02. Amazing interview Jesse you might be one of the greatest interviewers ever #amazin

Never really expressed my gratitude for what you do Jesse, but i truly appreciate you bringing me so many different perspectives. So for that i must thank you. I hope you see this

Satanists are almost always just atheists with a few edgy flourishes thrown in that really mean nothing. Every time you see "satanist" just replace it with "atheist who tries to be a little darker and cooler"

In spite of not wanting to like the guy I do. I think he is a great example of the many paths a man can take to find the truth. I do not like his style I am not a big fan of the "Satanic" label but at the end of the day I would kick it with him. Thanks for the good show Jesse. Now do not forget to bring a crazy liberal on and get them riled up for us in at least one episode.

Best video ever. That I have seen yet. Thanks Jesse for being kind and open enough to have this discussion

This was a very good and enjoyable conversation. The man didn't try and answer around the questions or give Jesse bullshit and a great conversation came out of this.

Is it that hard to wrap your head around? Those who have a step father who raise you as their own, is a real father.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't believe a person's religion has anything to do with them not forgiving. I believe that's a personal thing.

This dude is awesome. Very respectful honest and just easy to speak with

That was the best conversation I have heard on this channel thus far!!!

I am grateful for this interview. Despite the "satanist" thing, I like this guy. I appreciate his honesty and can track with what he's saying, although we disagree on some points. I can truly relate to his experience with his father, my husband had almost the exact same experience with his biological father and stepfather. That inspired us to adopt a child, seeing how much love you can share with someone who isn't "biologically" related to you. I love watching Rev. Jesse and his interviews, but I don't reach the same conclusion as he does on the "father"point. I TOTALLY agree with this gentleman's view on dogs!

Very interesting indeed. Very well thought out responses (im not saying agree) but you can see his perspective. Good Job Jesse Lee Peterson.

This is one my favorite interviews of all times.

Jesse, in reality the man who accepted him and raised him is his father. Consider Genesis 38:9, Onan knew his 'donation' would not be considered his son, because family is more than just biology, biblically.

what a great interview! i love that jesse brings in all walks of life

Much respect between you both.

A man Jesse couldn't break .Amazing. Nice interview when you can agree to disagree stay calm and keep convos going

Absolutely liked the guest. Very grounded, well spoken and honest. Gotta have this guy more often. Going to check out Vital Remains!

Such a good show, thank you for bringing Brian onto the show. Very interesting chat and he gave me many concepts to think about.

i love how jesse also added the metal music with some satanic type images in the end lmao! thats very cool to do so. it really adds that level of understanding of his guest. even if only for entertainment.

"If there is a judgement day and I have to stand in front of the creator of the universe and be judged, I will give him ample time to explain himself before I judge him" Brilliant!!

this is the first interview i've seen him have that was actually civil and not completely argumentatitive...oh wait, he's speaking with a white man. of course!!!!!!!

Jesse needs to stop harping on the biological father issue. He doesn’t understand what it is to have a dead beat biological father. He says he has a father. The one who raised him. Obviously Jesse doesn’t understand.

This guy is seriously my favorite guest JLP has had on the show.

Thank you for continuing the greatest of human traditions of great conversation.

Very interesting conversation really enjoyed this.

this Brian's a really exceptional thinker, very level-headed and relatable. Respect \m/

Why is he so stuck on the relationship to the father?

excellent conversation! :)

I heard Maxine Waters took his spot as High Priestess of the organization.

Good interview!

The Satanist has a more Christian understanding of forgiveness than Peterson's' brand of Christianity. You cannot give forgiveness to someone who doesn't ask for it. At the heart of true biblical forgiveness is reconciliation. You cannot give something to someone without them receiving it. You may ATTEMPT to forgive but if the other party does not accept it (they did not repent of it) then forgiveness hasn't taken place.

I can imagine Jesse at a Death Metal concert. Satan is Amaaaaazing!!!

I don't know why this video has so many less views than all his others. This is hands down one of his best interviews.

Here I am the death metal fan and jlp fan seeing that the vital remains vocalist is on! Excellent episode

This was great. Morals, life choices, respect, and free thought without religious beliefs. Much respect for both gentlemen.

This conversation is AMAZIN'

Nice interview thanks I subscribed

Leave the dad issue alone...

I liked this guy from the beginning but when he started quoting Bill Burr, I liked him even more.

Jesse youi are te only podcast that is not afraid to have ANY type of guest despite their beliefs background etc. Right on man,

I've never had a conversation with a Satanist but I didn't expect him to be so great sounding

This was a really good interview 👍 keep it up jesse

That's amazing.

Great conversation.

2 good men having a discussion. Great show!

“Lucifer was the first person to fight against slavery” LOL bet that triggered a few people.

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26

So refreshing to hear 2 adults speak to each other with respect and like adults despite having differing views. Great conversation.

I went to this 5 minutes after the “Gunplay” rapper interview. This conversation is way better intellectually.

Brian Werner: *gives a great, reasonable, thought out, logical response to a question* JLP: Amazin'

An amazing show and much love Jesse. Many great points. Very nice to see this. One of my favorite episodes

This young man is a thinker. His "we did twice....." and "you will never be younger than today" are profound truly to internalize and act upon. Well said, sir.

JLP and Vital Remains. I’m happy to see such a wide variety of people he interviews. Open minded with no hate. Just two people having a civil conversation.