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The S is from the Japanese word for "Exemplary" (秀, shū), and originates from the widespread use in Japanese culture of an 'S' grade for advertising and academic grading.

I'd like to see a "How to play" series... IDK if you would want to do a "How to use" for each individual tank but you could definitely educate us plebs on "how to use" a Stewart and a Medium and a heavy ect ect...

I'm glad u brought up the AT argument at 17:00 because it's a huge factor

As an avid anti tanker, the panzershreck factor gives a slight edge to german tanks in my opinion. If they evened out the damage between bazooka and panzershreck, different ballgame

The Panther’s armor and mobility make it an “A” tier, the six second reload heavy gun makes it an “S”. A well deserved class of its own.

It didn't seem like 40 minutes. I did enjoy the discussion and will be very interested to see where the new tanks coming in June fit into this. Sounds like a short update will be in the works! 😊

I think, from someone who played AT alot, you do the T70 injustice compared to the Stuart. I've only seen a few, but the hull-profile makes it very hard to hit the T70 in the right place to pen and kill him. Front and back are likely to ricochet and on the side you're likely to hit turret or tracks... if it even stands still for you to aim. The Sturat on the other hand it literally a box.

Great video, as always! Re: the Stewie spins: the Luchs absolutely spins as bad, if not worse than a Stewart when hit with projectiles (including bazooka rounds). As AT, I've hit them in the rear/engine, but with a SLIGHT funky angle, and they've spun 180 and waxed me. I have to respectfully disagree with you guys on the T70. It lacks a hull MG, but it absolutely hauls ass, and is like a mini-Panther in that it can handle any terrain. With a solid crew it can be used to flank med/heavies on any map with maybe Kursk being an exception. I regularly pub stomp heavies with that thing on Stalingrad and Kharkov. B-tier for me. With regard to AT - I think you made the right call factoring in AT! The Medium Sherman is a better tank than PZ4 on paper, but front pen on a Med Sherman from German AT is such a huge liability. A few random thoughts on heavies: I'm so happy you mentioned the huge bounce of the Panther! Something that I wish was mentioned with the Tiger : it's insanely smooth when jerking to a halt for the gunner, and it's so quiet while inside, which I love! Re: Jumbo 76: it has a weird hitbox in the rear, which makes it difficult to hit engine shots. There's a lot of dead space back there on the cargo that will not allow a panzershrek to penetrate unless it's dead-on. This list is legitimately terrific. The IS-1 in D-tier and T-70 in C-tier (I'd put them in C and B, respectively) are the only things I take slight umbrage with, but you guys talked through your decision making, which was so great.

Luchs is the tank i have the must fun playing, chaos all the way from start to respawn. Not that we ever need a Tiger ll in this game, but it would be fun too have one ^^

S-tier stands for Stuart

Hey Fresh, just thought I'd let you know you put the Luchs in the wrong tier. It should clearly be Tier B. I hope you do a correction video.

Honestly I never thought the Sherman 75 jumbo would be good, but recent I joined a game late with 20 minutes left and a tank crew with an open slot. They were running in the 75 and needed a gunner. We managed to get both enemy armor down on the last point, a panther and a p4. The smoke actually came in clutch. As we were near a hedge, we got a shot on the panther and we needed to move, so I smoked out the panther and we moved positioning. Managed to get two more shots off and take down the panther. We also one shot the p4 by hitting the side. It was a fun game. But I understand how it would be a better value to just get a 76. It takes longer to take out enemy armor with the 75, and is riskier. Smoke can be a hit or miss. Overall though, I agree with your guys’ rankings! Good points were mentioned 💯

I love how everyone has their own perspective and it just added to the love for this game

I think you under ranked the T70. It's one of the fastest and best driving tanks in the game. You can outscore heavy tank crews by doing long flanks on german tanks. Need to be an A or B for sure.

S stands for superior in most cases when applied to tier lists, for anyone wondering.

I have wrecked a couple heavies in the M4A3 by loading up a smoke round when I knew I’d be engaging him from front, fired rounds, kept smoking him, rolled right up behind him and started slamming AP. I’ve done the same to a Tiger in a Jumbo 75 by smoking it, hiding behind a hedge row, and he pushed straight to us. Some Fury shit.

Tanks alot!🤩

is-1 placement is gold lol

Great list guys. I’ve played a fair amount in tanks , I’m okay but no where near as good as you guys. That said the changes I’d make are: - boot that Luchs to D. I just don’t feel like the manoeuvrability and coolness make up for the trash splash damage. - boot that jumbo 75 to F. Your never gunna use it and the fact you can get a clown car for free puts it on the same level for me. - bump the IS1 to C. Just cuz of the ricochet. Though if there was a D.5 it would probably go there.

Great video man! And the puma actually had a 50 mm gun basically the same gun as the pzlll which is a tank they should add to the game imo.

IS-1 I actually disagree with, it’s A for me. Love using it.

I'm relatively new to tanking, but loving it. I don't know how people recognize tanks "panzer 4 incoming!" etc. I'm like "Tank incoming!" "What kind?" "It's big 'n slow, idfk"

40 minutes... and I needed something to chill out to after work. Thanks bud

Love the list! Personally, I'd bump the Stewart to A but otherwise it's spot on!

List is spot on tbh but funny thing with the IS-1 I got my highest combat score of the tank crew at 14,000 when kursk 1st came out but it’s still a bucket of shit haha

I'm really looking forward to comparing the Brit tanks with this list. The Firefly will probably play the same as the Sherman 76, but I'd also love to see the Churchill as an alternative heavy, the Cromwell as a fast medium, the Valentine as a slow medium/light, a Stuart or the AEC as a light, and either the AEC or the Humber as recon.

I love this but mannnnnn my puma needs more justice😤😭 Great video though I love the discussion!! P.s. Nice hat! San Diego gang🤞🏼

The Puma has a 50mm KwK 39 L/60 gun. The same long gun that was on the Panzer III Ausf. L

The Russians captured a tiger and found that you could shear off the hatch with a hit. You could also disable the turret with small arms rounds into the seal of the barrel. IS 1 had a 85mm main gun and weighed 97000lbs

As a driver main I'm giving more weight to jacks opinions on this listen.

Note! IS 1 lower front plate is trash. If you get caught with a shot straight on from the Panther or Tiger. You’re dead. If your not able to angle it’s lights out.

I think this is a spot on tier list. There might be other videos for this, but would you mind making a video on all the ricochet angles on the tanks?

Aren't the recon tanks like functionally identical though besides their target profile?

The video is great. In my opinion, the Tiger should be moved down to tier B since it is not on the same level as the 76 tank. Additionally, I suggest moving the Stuart up to tier A and the Luchs to tier B, as the Luchs is proficient in killing lightly armored vehicles and garrison behind enemy lines. Doing class vs class is better as there is no point doing a light tank vs a heavy etc. It was a very interesting video tho.

The greyhound is an A tank. the amounts om matches ive won by going around destroying garries, other tanks, supply trucks, disturbing artillery, desimating infantry etc is very high. its a high risk high reward tank. With no other tanks have i ever made as much impact in any game

I like how this game has the panzer 2 but it the king tiger or panzer 4 J or T-34-85

Stuarts with good drivers and Commanders are just a menace, waay undertiered. You can either play clean up crew or even hunt tanks. More dangerous to heavies than mediums.

People say the tiger has bad mobility when the tiger has tracks that are very wide which means it can do a 360 turn decently fast

The Lucas is good for crowd control on infantry. Other than that it's not great. Recon tanks are great for going back and killing nodes, arty, or garrisons

Soundtrack for this video??? Relaxed watching such a stressful ranking process 😂😂

T 34 is goated if never had a problem with at with it and one time I rolled up on a panther and tiger as a two man crew and was able to take them both out from the back before they got wise

Pzr 4 disrespect is crazy personally I love the tank just cause of how recognizable and iconic it is but is see your point, I think mobility is a problem for all tanks and the whole thing with clipping is just part of armour gameplay.

Hearing the BF1 soundtrack brings back nostalgia.

maybe a update to include the british tanks

Honestly, imo any tank that uses the DT coax is an auto D or below. That coax is basically unusable imo, and yes im including the IS-1 in the group

I actually agree with a lot of stuff on this list, but I think the jumbo 75 should be even with, or better than the medium 75. Another thing about the is-1 (and by extension, the t-34) the coax absolutely sucks ass, and that aspect isn’t talked about enough in my opinion.

t70 for me dosent feel as nimble as the stuart, and the lack of hull MG cannot be overstated, when I try to assault infantry positions, or pick off a engineer or panzershreck.

Luchs is D in my opinion, the only good quality is just the cheese blitz right into a garry. Other than that after the HE nerf I would rather have the Puma.

"Hey, he's got a face cam! :D" "Oh no, he's a Padres fan! D:"

I would put panzer 4 in S tier cause it has speed and armor mixed in 80mms of armor a long 75mm it’s just as good as the Sherman

P IV is S tier for me. I love driving that baby

Luchs should be higher than C because the AT in the faction it against can’t penetrate its front armor.

Please make a video of a compilation of luch convoys attacking a single garry etc

My question is: why does the Luchs not have both HE rounds and AP rounds for it's 20mm? It had the PzGr 40 AP-CR round which could penetrate up to 40mm of armour, which is enough to side or rear penetrate most allied armour, or at least track them. Historically the Germans also used that round in AA guns against ground targets, since it could shoot straight through buildings and kill anyone inside.

Even with a full squad I always prefer light or recon tanks

All they would have to do it fix the is1 is make it the is2 with the 122m gun and let it one shot everything.

Is-1 should be bumped up 1 class, it’s a shithouse tank in terms of mobility and how trash it sounds negates any cool factor and shitty views, also soviets have probably the worst gun sights in the game but it’s not as ass as the 75 jumbo. Given the ricochet and that hull down style of play it should get the bump up with the side note of *when used by effective crew, otherwise it could stay where it is currently. The 75 medium should also be bump up to be on the same as the pz4, given the choice I’d take the 75 medium over pz4 for mobility and ricochet against tanks it’s better than the pz4 but lack’s against infantry. I think that brings them both back into balance yes the chance to die from the front from a rocket is shithouse but a small adjustment from driver makes rockets bounce all day, I think the rest of the list is pretty spot on. I would move the 75 up to be on par with pz4 over moving pz4 down to suit 75 due to the fact that these tanks perform better on average than puma, greyhound and Luchs.

What do the numbers mean on the gunners reticle and how do you use them for range and elevation to score accurate hits? Thanks !

Gonna continue this now that British tanks are in the game or wait until patches get things evened out?

aye! wheres my boy the churchil?!

Lux has to be D, especially if pz4 is on C. Experienced crew can Fuq shit up with pz4 even with its defects

What the tank? The puma never and will never use a 7,5 Cm (The Pack Puma uses a 7,5 Cm but is not the puma that they were talking about) it use a 5,0 Ccm canon with around 114mm of pen (Impresive for how small it is)

I could be wrong but I think the BA-10 takes two rockets to destroy?

Tiger has an 88mm. The IS2 had 122mm, IS1 has an 85mm

You got to do the Brits now. Tiger is C for me. To easy to be killed and hangs on everything. The 75 jumbo for me is B tier because I got my first Khan with it. 217 kills no death had to reload it twice. And that Smoke is hella nice. Panther smoke that bitch and RUN AWAY and hide then pop it and smoke HIDE and then kill it. IF team 17 made the Sherman able to have the gyroscopic turret., Then the Sherman would be higher.

As a noob I enjoyed this

Awesome

Jumbo 75 should be F-Tier, not only because of the 75 Gun but its got 8 sec reload as well, its just all the bad of medium and heavy combined

They should add different tanks like a stug and call it a hybrid tank

T70 is the only russian tank I am willing to use, its speed and low profile make it epic on long karkov and stalingrad flanks. I kinda feel the stuart (an even more amazing tank) could be one higher and T70 would move above the recons.

Howdy folks! S tier comes from the Japanese word for "Exemplary" (秀, shū), and originates from the widespread use in Japanese culture of an 'S' grade for advertising and academic grading.

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The ranking system is taken from manga cartoons and is character power levels . It barely makes any sense in the cartoons but now its used for everything. God knows why. ('A' should be best-) Ba10 - based on truck chassis , was poor mobility but fairly descent firepower, had 45mm gun plus in RL had a machine gun in hull and detachable tracks over the rear wheels. But in HLL it is pretty lame, no seperate mg Pumaz- or sdkfz234/2, 8x8 wheels drive (56mph) and has 50mm gun not 75mm(that was sdkfz 234/4).Armour was a paper thin frontal 30mm and it shouldnt bounce well really. The turn circle should be better as it had extremely complicated 8 wheel steering.typical german over engineering. But it was good in RL just so expensive it was very rare compared to allied equivalents. Cross country was excellent. Greyhound - 6x4 vehicle, 2 wheels steered, notoriously bad cross country so shouldnt match a puma cross country at all, slow in RL unless on a road, then it was quick (55mph) The gun was only 37mm so shouldnt match the puma at all (!) but does in HLL and was open top with 25mm frontal so should be more vulnerable but doesnt seem to be in HLL. Stewart you pretty much covered. Good tank maybe slightly over represented in HLL. LUCHs - very rare in RL pretty much as bad as the real thing i think. Turn circle should be better maybe?? as they shortened the track contact length for this. Agree with the rating you gave with current model. T70 i dont know much about either! In game or RL. panzerIV - agree with what you said. In RL that 75mm was a great gun, way better than 75mm on sherman but Ah well HLL . Sherman - i think the side vulnerabilty is right, mobility should be better than panzer too from what ive read. T34 - i think theyve overdone the t34 in HLL as it is so easy to use , in RL its supposed to be a dog, gearbox and terrible vision etc. HLL doesnt really show this. Armour was sloped but was it this good , not sure it was. The rest you pretty much covered. The game seems to get them pretty much right, apart from gun strengths and power! (reloads etc) HLL equalises the guns which is weird imo. IS1 should be as bad as it is from what ive read. Was a bit of a dog. View from inside was horrendous and the gun took an AGE to reload. It was 122m though! JUMBO - Less said the better? 😂 Sherman76 i cant say what i think anout HLL representation. Would cause too many arguements! 😂 You guys need to update with new update 14 tanks 😁

It’s gonna be chaos if they add the calliope rocket Sherman

I know in my head the Panthers better But my heart means I always pick the Tiger 😂

"S" for Strike.

Straight from the Military specs manual for the IS1 Main gun and it's role in WW2 "D-25T 122 mm gun They were mainly designed as breakthrough tanks, firing a heavy high-explosive shell that was useful against entrenchments and bunkers." In other words they were not meant to fight open country battles

Stewie not being S tier is sacrilege!!!

S tier = God tier

The IS-1 was in fact an 85mm. The only incorrect gun, that was ever in the game, was the original M4A1 which displayed a 76mm gun but inside the tank it stated it was a 75mm gun. Penetration values are completely wrong though.

I thought S tier was just "superior"

S teir=superior ?

stuart S fast , behind killing all tanks and piu other place and panther S other are more camping tanks

Sorry... its a 50mm gun my friend.

A tricky list... i'll put the M8 on the D, it's a 1 shot/schreck/mine vehicle.. and if you stop you gonna die, the T70 it's a solid F, that useless piece of crap sucks, only the ricochet save that piece of crap; and maybe move the Panzer 2 to the D, it's very fast but clips on every brick of the road and... it's quite jumpy on the bumps, plus the slow turning turret and the fact that's mainly useless againist tanks with a full crew, since the U7 or U9 that i don't kill a tank (a medium) from behind with a PZ2, the rest of the list it's fine by me.

IS-1 is realy a shame... it was using a 122 mm gun in real

Driving an American heavy tank= dead by grandmas rpg. Vsing a American heavy tank=dead because it’s godmode unless your in a tiger.

What does the S stand for? The S ranking in a tier list is typically regarded as standing for "superb" or "super" and is considered the highest ranking on a tier list template. Under S tier, the tier labels use a traditional A - D grading scale. Tier list labels can be customized and at times a row for "SS" will be placed above S tier. A fighting game character, fast food restaurant or any other thing ranked S in a tier list would be considered the very best, OP, elite or whatever other adjective you want to give it. There doesn't appear to be a definitive origin story for using S as the top placements in tier lists or definition of what it actually stands for. Here are some of the top definitions and meanings for the acclaimed tier list placement. S stands for Superb, Super, Superior, Special or Sugoi Most frequently you will see the meaning of S in tier lists referred to as meaning superb, super, superior, or the Japanese word Sugoi or shuu. "The word すごい (Sugoi) can be used for expressing something extraordinary meaning something like "wow" or "amazing" or "incredible" in English. It can be used in many situation." (Sugoi definition source) S stands for "shuu" (秀), which is Japanese for "excellent".

Wassssaaaaaaaaappp Panther for the win