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Chevy 1500 5.3L V8 vs 2.7L TurboMax Engine *Heavy Mechanic Review* | Towing BATTLE!!

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@Derham43
@Derham43 Жыл бұрын
This video confirmed what I felt all along about the revised 2.7 with 430 ft lbs of torque. I was intrigued enough where I found myself trading my Chevy Colorado 3.6 towards purchasing a Chevy Silverado Custom Double Cab 2.7. I purchased this truck for my Hot Shot business where I do light towing and hauling on demand. Everything mentioned in this video, I can confirm. I have driven (rented) the 5.3 several times and comparing the two drivetrains, I find the 2.7 much more relaxing to operate. The 5.3 is slightly faster as shown but the 2.7 is a more relaxed cruiser. Some might say the mileage between these two drivetrains is negligible, but the 1 to 3 extra MPG highway in favor of the 2.7 is money in my pocket. Like many thoughts, reliability remains the big gamble.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Awesome to hear you sort of confirm what I also felt when towing between these two engines. Nothing wrong with the 5.3 but I genuinely felt like the 2.7L just pulled easier. As for reliability, so far it seems they are holding up but that is still to be determined
@rotaryenginepete
@rotaryenginepete 11 ай бұрын
The 5.3L actually gets better real world fuel economy both while towing and on the highway, so in this use case the extra 1-3 mpg is in favor of the V8. Anyone can see the V8 advantage by comparing EPA ratings for 2023 2.7 and 5.3 Silverados with matching options like 4WD and mud terrain tires. In this case the 2.7 is rated 17 CITY / 18 HWY while the 5.3 is rated 16 CITY / 20 HWY
@Derham43
@Derham43 11 ай бұрын
@@rotaryenginepete This may be true concerning the EPA on the stickers of the vehicle used by the OP. I was only referencing my personal experience between the vehicles I have rented (Silverado 5.3 extended cab) and my particular Silverado 2.7.
@colbiecolbie6979
@colbiecolbie6979 11 ай бұрын
The system that shuts down cylinders is a problem
@justingill5256
@justingill5256 11 ай бұрын
​@colbiecolbie6979 gen 2 5.0 great power with tuning cast iron sleeves no cyl deactivation gen 3 even better with u get a proper built one!
@claytonsmith6148
@claytonsmith6148 11 ай бұрын
When the 2.7L 4-Cyl Turbo first came out, I read the specs. The GM came out with a video of the spec, and basically this is a 4-cyl diesel that has spark plugs, and runs on gas! From the very design of the block up it is built like a diesel engine. So it makes perfect sense for this engine to perform like it does, it is not a typical 4-cyl.
@matthew7972
@matthew7972 11 ай бұрын
Ya but I want some real world costs of fixing that engine lol
@claytonsmith6148
@claytonsmith6148 11 ай бұрын
@@matthew7972 I understand there are always questions with new technology? One of other things mentioned in the GM review video was how they test all their engines, especially for trucks, and heavy duty applications. They max test them on the dyno until they break! The engineer said that the 2.7L turbo was the only one that didn’t break! So I guess we’ll see?
@matthew7972
@matthew7972 11 ай бұрын
@@claytonsmith6148 ya I’m not doubting the engine. Just need to see the longevity of it. Hell, the 5.3L v8 has been around forever and still has issues
@sambonedallas
@sambonedallas 8 ай бұрын
@@matthew7972zero dollars til it’s out of warranty which they bumped til 5 yrs
@jesserevilla992
@jesserevilla992 7 ай бұрын
I owned the GMC Elevation 2.7 "2020" and you are absolutely correct. Engine is built as it were the Duramax minis the Diesel lol. Never had a problem with it. Great towing our 4500 lbs travel trailer. I turned in the truck back June of 2023 and now leasing the F150 2.7 which gets better city mpg's , perhaps it's due to the 10 spd. I was pissed with GMC getting rid of the center console for the 2.7 Elevation. So I changed trucks to the XLT Sport.
@chuppoacobra
@chuppoacobra 11 ай бұрын
1 month into owning my 23 LT w/ 2.7L and I love it. it is a really nice daily driver! so comfortable and responsive. A couple of weeks back we made our first trip with it half way up Mt Hood here in Oregon with our #6000 TT for a camping trip. From where I live to where we camped on Hood, there was a number of 6%+/- grades that normally tasked the heck out of my 08 Tahoe LT 5.3L when towing this same trailer. My 23 LT hit these same grades so much easier, 2500-3000 rpm ripping along at 60mph comfortably. My 08 Tahoe would be about 3800+ rpm at about 45 mph, and really working hard. The Tahoe is NOT meant to tow like this. Thanks for the video comparison! Interesting.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I was shocked how well the 2.7L pulled a heavy load. and in my opinion at highway speeds pull much better then the 5.3L which was a surprise to me. maybe GM knows what they are doing lol
@chuppoacobra
@chuppoacobra 11 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures Hahaha I hope so too. I already got burnt twice with the active fuel management crap in my tahoe, lifter failure..... I went reluctantly all in on this 2.7L.....so fingers crossed.
@calebferguson3930
@calebferguson3930 Жыл бұрын
Ill trade the towing acceleration for an engine that can hold a gear all day long. I actually did. Traded my 2020 5.3 in for a 23 2.7. I had a 19 2.7 thay i missed.
@wisco1225
@wisco1225 11 ай бұрын
Agreed
@jordanhill1559
@jordanhill1559 6 ай бұрын
honestly what a great statement 100 percent agree
@adrianzbaeren
@adrianzbaeren 11 ай бұрын
I am from switzerland and used to mountain roads. I do prefer manual transmissions over 6, 8 or even 10 speed transmissions. I dare say a good old 6 speed manual is still the best and most efficient option to drive. Love watching your videos, thanks for your effort to creat such interesting content.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Thank you sir! Yes a good manual transmission gives you alot of control. But I feel like nowadays people enjoy just letting the truck do all the work
@RedWingsninetyone
@RedWingsninetyone 11 ай бұрын
As my dad said, "there's other things I'd rather do than shift all the time."
@JohnSmith-ev1sm
@JohnSmith-ev1sm 11 ай бұрын
A manual 6 speed vs auto 6, yes. Manual 6 vs 8 or 10 speed auto? Not a chance. There is no replacement for those extra gears.
@doperider85
@doperider85 10 ай бұрын
I wonder what the 2.7 could do mileage wise with a standard trans it seems if I don't push the truck hard on the interstate and stick to around 70 after 10 miles or so it's indicating north of 25 mpg
@rock-uu7qr
@rock-uu7qr 9 ай бұрын
yea no... auto transmissions can spool a bigger turbo and a 10 speed auto is unbeatable in pickups
@fscottgray9784
@fscottgray9784 Жыл бұрын
I have both a 5.3 and a couple of 2.7 in GMC pickups. I would take the 2.7 over the 5.3 for everyday driving and also for towing. My 2.7 is faster than my 5.3 but then again I am at 5300 feet. The 2.7 never shifts out of top gear in the mountains.
@chadmiller6487
@chadmiller6487 3 ай бұрын
How about for reliability?
@joem4746
@joem4746 8 ай бұрын
I’ve had a 2009, 2012, 2014 & 2015 all with the 5.3. Never experienced a lifter failure, but I was always worried about it. Stepped up to a 2021 with the 3.0. Favorite no doubt. Now have a 2022 with the 2.7, I have towed several times with it probably around 7k lbs. I prefer the 2.7 towing and daily driving over the 5.3. Hwy mpg I average 21, the 5.3 best I ever got was 19. Not a big difference. If diesel $$ never shot up, I’d still own that duramax though. I’d worry more about the 8spd transmission than the 2.7 engine. Transmission is very finicky. Put the 10spd with the 2.7 and I think they can drop the old 5.3 from the lineup. Just my .02
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
I know a ton of guys with 2014+ trucks with the 5.3. None of them have had a lifter issue. The biggest difference I think is that they change their oil every 3-4k miles. They're older so they always changed their oil that often. I've owned two of the newer 5.3 and haven't had a lifter issue either. I started changing mine much more often just because it makes sense. Exxon Mobil put 520k miles on a 2015 Silverado 5.3 doing torture testing and never had a lifter issue and the engine looked immaculate when it was torn down. The lifters aren't an issue if the engine is kept clean. Short trips and extended oil change intervals causes the issues.
@nickmiller1945
@nickmiller1945 23 күн бұрын
I own the 2.7L and absolutely love it. Will be getting another this winter.
@justmy2cents_
@justmy2cents_ 11 ай бұрын
Gotta say very impressive for the little turbo 4 & i actually thought it would get out muscled big time because of its size! But wow what an incredible little engine! I guess size doesn't really matter unless its your bank account!👍✌️
@matthewanderson9912
@matthewanderson9912 11 ай бұрын
Nice video. So my take is it’s all about the horsepower. Truck people (I’m a truck person too) tend to want to make it about torque but horsepower determines your speed and with essentially identical trucks with the one exception being 40 some more hp then there should be no surprise about which one feels better driving. The turbo so making the difference out on the Highway with the grades especially because like you said it’s just pushing more boost. I would also say the 2.7 has a gearing advantage in-spite of having two less transmission gears. The 8L90 and 10L80 have very similar gear ratios. The 10 speed has an extra OD gear but essentially they are very similar. And having the 3.42 rear gear no doubt was helping on the grades. The 3.42 is available with the 5.3 and 10 speed but you have to get the max tow option.
@jij4126
@jij4126 Ай бұрын
I have owned two Silverado pickups. The 5.3 has provided me with exceptional service.
@jesserevilla992
@jesserevilla992 7 ай бұрын
The 2.7 has the low end torque which I enjoy when towing our travel trailer. I love the V8 more so the 5.0 Ford and a fan of the 5.7 Ram. But once I was given a 2019 3.5 F150 it was a game changer. And my own truck today is a F150 2.7.
@paulsumpter9573
@paulsumpter9573 11 ай бұрын
The 10 speed transmission ratios in the 5.3 probably helped more around town. Would be interesting to know what the first couple of gears in each transmission are to make a comparison.
@troyg3439
@troyg3439 Жыл бұрын
You'd have to compare gear ratios in the 8 and 10 speeds, I suspect some of the better towing in town is the 10 speed having lower ratio first gear as well as closer ratios with more gears to choose from.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I think you are probably bang on there. I would suspect the 10 speed's first gear is a little more aggressive then the 8 speeds.
@richardblack8277
@richardblack8277 11 ай бұрын
I had a 23 with the 2.7 for 6 months and was okay until the weather warned up and I had to use the a/c all the time. That's when the milage went south and I realized that this engine was going to be a gas hog even under a light load so I traded it in for an LT with a 5.3 and it's getting better milage and more smiled per mile than that 2.7 did.
@danielbonner8309
@danielbonner8309 8 ай бұрын
I got 23 2.7 and love it. It's cooled down a lil here in Florida and haven't been running my ac. To confirm what you said, I've gained over 2 miles per gallon average. 20 to 22 mpgs. Either way good mpgs for a fullsize in my opinion.
@ohiojeep101
@ohiojeep101 3 ай бұрын
2021 2.7 here and to tell you the truth I don't see a difference running the air or not.. clock's in at 20-21 miles per gallon all the time.
@joshuahedrick
@joshuahedrick Ай бұрын
You lost more money trading in then you would have lost in gas 😮
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын
Need to do a 2.7 ecoboost next
@breakinggames6356
@breakinggames6356 9 ай бұрын
The 90s and 99-06 gm vehicles were pretty good I had one it lasted to 320,000 miles before the original transmission started going out
@chadmiller6487
@chadmiller6487 2 ай бұрын
I have a 5.3 yukon xl with the max tow package. My wife tows her 8k horse trailer daily and has no complaints.
@toddsonic
@toddsonic 11 ай бұрын
You can make a smaller displacement engine make more power but long term durability will be the determining factor to me. What happens at 100, 200 or 300,000 km of working, how do the the bearings and rings stand up over the long term, only time will tell.
@jimmyjames8611
@jimmyjames8611 6 ай бұрын
Standard GM self destruct is 10 years old or 225 000 km 😂
@mkyhou1160
@mkyhou1160 5 ай бұрын
@@jimmyjames86115 years if it has cylinder deactivation like this engine does.
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
Go learn about the way the 2.7 is built. It's basically a 4 cylinder diesel with spark plugs. Nodular iron spincast cylinders, pistons with iron carriers cast into them that carry the piston rings, forged crankshaft, forged connecting rods, forged mainbearing caps, big heavy head bolts, etc. It's not a 4-banger they pulled from an Equinox and threw a turbo on. Plus it doesn't have an oil pump belt like a 2.7EB or 5.0 Coyote.
@ews360
@ews360 4 ай бұрын
@@hochhaul Glad I made the right choice by trading in my 5.3 that I didn't destroy by changing oil @ 6,000 miles / 20%. Lord knows what happens w/ unknown owner #2 ......... wish I could know. Glad the '23 2.7 doesn't possess collapsing lifters, although I had no issue w/ them,..... I just didn't care to gamble after drivetrain warranty expired.
@JohnDiMartino
@JohnDiMartino 11 ай бұрын
The 2.7 is one of the best engines GM has now , the 5.3 is nowhere near as reliable. This isn’t the old bulletproof 5.3 from pre 2007.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I don't know if I would go that far just yet. it does seem like the 2.7L is a reliable unit to this point but only time will tell. But I completely agree the 5.3L is nowhere near as reliable as they used to be which is sad tbh.
@ACF6180T
@ACF6180T 11 ай бұрын
I don't know about all that; What I do know is when I bought my 03 Silverado new; I told myself that this is last new truck I'm buying. I only have a little over 81,000 on the clock, & I've been retired for 5 years now, The truck is only used mostly for towing my travel trailer now , & with that few miles on it I think it will be the last new truck; Seeing how I'm on the short side life now. I did get I with the tow package, & do regular pm's on the vehicle😉.
@jelau4851
@jelau4851 9 ай бұрын
Trust me, keep the truck, I bought a 2003 new, a 2500hd with the 6 liters, that I kept for 13 years, traded it for a2015 3500 Duramax , in order to pull a heavier fifth-wheel, well, I still cry over selling my 2500-6liters@@ACF6180T
@kcsrr15
@kcsrr15 8 ай бұрын
5.3 or 6.2 any day
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
The 2014+ 5.3 is fine, you just have to change the oil more often than what the life meter says. The biggest cause of lifter failures is sludge clogging the tiny oil passages or fuel dilution causing wear in the lifter. The engine needs to stay clean inside.
@jakewilson24
@jakewilson24 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 5.3 with the 8 speed transmission. So far my experience with it has been underwhelming for a v8 truck. It does feel zippy around town and gets decent highway mpg, but I had to tow a U haul trailer not that long ago that probably came in around 3-4,000 pounds and the truck just didn’t feel like pulling it at all. Maybe it’s because I have a 5500 Cummins for a work truck and I’m used to the insane amount of torque that thing puts down, but you’d also figure the 5.3 is capable of handling less than half of its max tow capacity at the same time
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I sort of had the same reaction as you. The 5.3 was fine nothing wrong with it but it did just feel a little underwhelming for a V8. Sounds great but the power just didnt seem to be there
@CustomWeldingandFab
@CustomWeldingandFab 11 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventuresget the govt restrictions out of the way and these engines would be completely different
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
Yea I would say the fact that you're used to a Cummins work truck is affecting your opinion of the 5.3. I never I had any sense that the 5.3+8-speed was working hard at all pulling that kind of weight.
@ridewot
@ridewot Жыл бұрын
Some information on transmission temperature would be helpful!!!
@allpronutritioninc
@allpronutritioninc 3 ай бұрын
Amazing information and review as always! Thanks for your thorough informative reviews and test!
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 10 ай бұрын
Why the V8 felt better than l4 in the city: No turbo lag. Instantaneous throttle response.
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
Yup. The turbo in the 2.7 is pretty good thanks to the dual volute design but it still has some turbo lag.
@toddanderson8277
@toddanderson8277 11 ай бұрын
Great video. If you had a 3.73 or at least a 3.42 on the 5.3 it may have pulled a little better on the grades but not sure how the 10 speed trans is as my 15' Sierra 5.3 with Max Trailering has a 6 speed and 3.73 and I tow 7600 pounds but I'm on my second 5.3 and I am happy with the performance and reliability of the truck and engine.
@Bowhunters6go8xz6x
@Bowhunters6go8xz6x 16 күн бұрын
Turbo stays spooled up on the highway, not when its in stop and go city driving is why it then feels sluggish. The longevity issue on the 5.3 V8 is with the special lifters used for active fuel management (they have had lots of issues) with failing lifters.
@LindsayPeters987
@LindsayPeters987 11 ай бұрын
A helpful and entertaining comparison :) thanks!
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Oh thank you Lindsay!
@vr4787
@vr4787 Жыл бұрын
Just to round it out, let’s see how a Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi does.
@darrylbaron5004
@darrylbaron5004 11 ай бұрын
100% Agree with this
@Bradimus1
@Bradimus1 11 ай бұрын
I'm driving a Hemi. It's not drastically different than the 5.3.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I'm PUMPED to get the 5.7 Hemi on this towing loop.
@MADAmechanical
@MADAmechanical 11 ай бұрын
Hemi will slot in between the 5.3 and coyote. But it's kind of irrelevant now since it's being dropped in as little as maybe 4 months in favor of the 3L inline 6 hurricane engine. From what I read it was based solely on it not being able to meet the next emissions or fuel mileage mandates.
@ews360
@ews360 5 ай бұрын
Hemi. r.i.p.
@edwardpate6128
@edwardpate6128 11 ай бұрын
Like to see a direct comparison with the 3.0 Duramax diesel. To me that engine the only way to go.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I really like that 3L I think GM really nailed that engine. But yes that would be a great comparison video
@matt34003434
@matt34003434 11 ай бұрын
Not until GM recognizes that burning a quart of oil every 1000 miles is unacceptable.
@jacobhall8092
@jacobhall8092 7 ай бұрын
​@@matt34003434there is a TSB out for that in the LM2. It traces back to a bad weld in the valve cover.
@thewireman134
@thewireman134 4 ай бұрын
Yes it is a great tower, but the emissions ruin it
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
@@matt34003434 That was due to a defective valve cover. TSB and new part addresses the issue.
@rtaylor2262
@rtaylor2262 23 күн бұрын
I have a 2024 1500 with the 2.7 and it has the worst turbo lag of any of the turbo engines I have driven. It cruises great on the interstate, but it is a handful to drive in bumper to bumper traffic or city driving. Also, my Turbomax has no engine braking whatsoever. No one is talking about this, but where I live in the mountains, this is a big deal. Once the turbo kicks in, it's quick and will spin the tires with ease. But there is a full 1 or 2 seconds before the truck takes off after pressing the gas pedal. I would not recommend this engine over the v-8.
@thewireman134
@thewireman134 4 ай бұрын
What people are not realizing, you can lug the 2.7 around town easily while being effective in accelerating and not killing the engine doing so. You dont need rpm even when not in boost
@guentherwilke2055
@guentherwilke2055 11 ай бұрын
I expected the V8 to do better than the 4cyl Turbo on fuel economy. I do know some that get outstanding economy from the 4cyl.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I remember I drove it for a weekend in the winter and the fuel economy was decent but not great. But for those with a lot of city driving in the 2.7 will be much better then the V8 options
@racekar80
@racekar80 11 ай бұрын
With the AFM on the V8, I would rather have the 4
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I mean the lifter failures on the 5.3 and the 6.2 are a little concerning without a doubt
@dennisperezcuts5256
@dennisperezcuts5256 5 ай бұрын
the 4 cylinder comes with afm also, deactives two of its cylinders
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
Why? Can't manage to keep your oil changed as often as it should be? Defective lifters fail at very low mileage. Lifters that fail at 30... 60... 90k miles.... those lifters fail because the clown that owned the truck wasn't changing the oil often enough. Interesting how Exxon Mobil can put 520k miles on a 2015 Silverado 5.3 without a single lifter failure but some neckbeard that thinks 7k mile oil changes is just fine because it's synthetic has a lifter issue and throws an 80iq temper tantrum online and blames the problems he caused on the lifters.
@Holden-McGroin
@Holden-McGroin 2 ай бұрын
😂
@slh5525
@slh5525 Жыл бұрын
You also have to consider that the 2.7 is the no cost base engine
@dutch4117
@dutch4117 11 ай бұрын
True. And the fact that it is constantly compared the V8s speaks pretty well to its capabilities.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Very true. Granted I don't think the 5.3 is that much cost for the upgrade. Like 1200 bucks I think
@dutch4117
@dutch4117 11 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures That might be so if you place an order at a dealership. However; when I was looking at dealer stock, the 2.7s were about 10 thousand less. The 2.7s also had the lower trim levels as well. The “Custom” for instance.
@danielbonner8309
@danielbonner8309 8 ай бұрын
​@@dutch4117Exactly, it's not like you can go into the dealership and pick what engine you want. You pick the truck and the V8s are in the higher trim$.
@Onefittyguy
@Onefittyguy 8 ай бұрын
The sticker price may be only $1200 more on the 5.3 but in reality it is always 3-4k more due to additional rebates to try and sell the 2.7 since nobody really likes the idea of a 4 in a full size
@mmnnra55
@mmnnra55 4 ай бұрын
I've got a 2004 5.3 4wd long bed. Truck has 724,000 miles. I'm on my 3rd 5.3 motor. 1st went 365,000. 2nd used had 135,000 when I put it in. I added about 160,000 before pulling it for 3rd motor. It had 102, 000 miles when we dropped it in. So far it's a win win 5.3 I have no complaints.. Trump 2024💯🇺🇸
@nunya1667
@nunya1667 2 ай бұрын
Nice! I’m at 209k in my 2017 5.3 4wd and hoping to get another 100k out of it.
@mmnnra55
@mmnnra55 2 ай бұрын
@@nunya1667 never give up on a 5.3 if it makes a tapping noise or starts smoking there are simple fixes for both.
@JoshDurston
@JoshDurston 4 ай бұрын
What about the AFM fiasco? Does the 2.7 skirt the issue entirely, or does it replace it with "turbo" issues that aren't any better?
@shawnl4139
@shawnl4139 11 ай бұрын
Also longer stroke at the same RPM= higher piston speeds. Hopefully GM accounted for that with their piston rings and liners between the 2.7 and 5.3. If they didn’t than the 2.7 won’t have the same longevity.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Very true. You would hope they accounted for that. It does seems like the internals are pretty stout
@chuppoacobra
@chuppoacobra 11 ай бұрын
I found this pretty interesting, regarding the 2.7L kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gLKomKWr186zeIU.html
@souljunkee
@souljunkee 2 ай бұрын
I am probably wrong. However, I have always assumed that if you are wanting a vehicle that lasts it is better to stay away from a smaller super/turbocharged engine. I always thought that pushing a smaller engine would cause more wear and tear vs. just letting a larger engine do it's thing.
@Killbot754
@Killbot754 Жыл бұрын
Had a 2019 RST with the max trailering and the 5.3. Never suffered from lack of power pulling a 7500lb travel trailer, but my god the suspension was lacking, even after the addition of super springs. The sag and sway, even with an equalizer was terrible. Upgraded to a 1 ton.
@TheRamGuy
@TheRamGuy 11 ай бұрын
Same here. Half tons can't control a TT that size so I to went from a 1/2 to a 1 ton
@jghall00
@jghall00 9 ай бұрын
My camper is 7800 GVWR. My Expedition pulls it just fine loaded to 7k, after upgrading to E tires. The C tires were mushy.
@Killbot754
@Killbot754 9 ай бұрын
Different brand, and different vehicle and different engine and suspension.@@jghall00
@drooskeedoo3388
@drooskeedoo3388 11 ай бұрын
The GLARING issue is not whether or which engine has better towing characteristics. The question everyone should be asking is when has GM ever produced a small displacement forced induction motor that wasnt a completed turd when it came to reliability.
@jacobhall8092
@jacobhall8092 7 ай бұрын
The 2.0 LTG in my Camaro was a fantastic motor with zero issues. Much better than the 3.6L V in the same application. Gobs more torque.
@drooskeedoo3388
@drooskeedoo3388 7 ай бұрын
@@jacobhall8092 how old and how many miles?
@jacobhall8092
@jacobhall8092 7 ай бұрын
@@drooskeedoo3388 2020 Camaro bought new and driven hard but maintained meticulously. Test drove the same model with the v6 and was thoroughly underwhelmed. Mild tuning and a bigger throttle body woke it up even further. GM purposely detuned that motor and put a smaller throttle body on it to restrict power so that it wasn't vastly more powerful than the V, which was supposed to be an"upgrade"from the turbo 4. Even in stock form, the 4 banger made more torque. After a mild tune and bigger throttle body, it ate the v6 for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The V didn't make power until almost 4k rpm. The turbo motor had nearly full torque at 1800rpm.
@ews360
@ews360 5 ай бұрын
2.7 turbo makes 430 ft lbs of torque @ 3,000 rpm's. 5.3 makes 383 ft lbs torque @ 4,100 rpm's. The door jamb sticker states tow rating. To find your answer, I'd test drive a used 2.7 turbo H.O. (broke in, over 500 miles on odo) & tow, so you will have something to compare to. Or, just erroneously believe more cylinders equal more torque / towing.
@drooskeedoo3388
@drooskeedoo3388 5 ай бұрын
@@ews360 power ratings mean little if it doesn't last. I have a 19 year old truck that asks little and keeps pulling. I'd take that over a monthly payment and questionable reliability.
@minivanwhy874
@minivanwhy874 3 ай бұрын
2022 sierra 2.7, the only bummer on the 1500 (crew cab) is the lack of suspension support. Over 6k she squats bad, although still manages to stay off the bumpstops
@minivanwhy874
@minivanwhy874 3 ай бұрын
And the diesel-ish noises the injectors/pump/valvetrain makes are unsettling😂
@DH-hp7nv
@DH-hp7nv 11 ай бұрын
I liked the 5.3 back in the early 2000’s when it was the “vortec” I had an 02 with 5.3 and it was a beast, and super reliable for me. Now days the 5.3 is a grocery grabber / mom engine. My company vehicle is a tahoe with 5.3 and it sucks to daily drive. I absolutely hate the cylinder deactivation, which translates into alot of hesitation and poor performance. The 5.3 imo is now obsolete.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
very much agree. the 5.3L is almost living on it's legacy. the old early 2000's 5.3L engine were fantastic units. today with the lifter issues they are a shell of what they once used to be.
@alfredoverno9674
@alfredoverno9674 10 ай бұрын
On the 2012 sierra i have eith the 5.3 and the 4 cylinder mode (i put the gear selector into M5, and that allows the automatic trans NOT to go into M6. (thats the gear it drops you into 4 cyl mode) hope that helps.
@ews360
@ews360 5 ай бұрын
@@alfredoverno9674 Did that also. It's true. I believe it works w/ Dynamic Fuel Management 5.3 engines beginning in 2019. 8 speed? keep in 7th, & will result in keeping in V8. Don't know about 10 speeds w/ cylinder deactivation.
@feather2ton
@feather2ton 11 ай бұрын
I would be interested to see transmission temperatures at the top of those long hills. I can confirm that fuel economy while towing is similar to my 2019 ram 1500 5.7, but everyday driving unloaded fuel economy is definitely better
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
The transmission temp for the 5.3 topped out at 74 degrees Celsius. But hoping to show the transmission temp for all trucks going forward.
@lonemillenial2707
@lonemillenial2707 11 ай бұрын
The 5.3 with 10 speed operates around 150 Fahrenheit without towing, the 2.7T with 8 speed operates at around 195-200 Fahrenheit without towing so the 2.7T i think would be much higher.
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
@@lonemillenial2707 The 8-speed even with the 2.7T should be similar to the 10-speed. The one you got those temps with probably has the old transmission cooler bypass or it's sticking and not keep the trans cool.
@lonemillenial2707
@lonemillenial2707 4 ай бұрын
@@hochhaul negative, that is brand new 2024. The 2.7T runs hotter due to the active thermal valve which the 5.3 doesnt have. The active thermal valve intentionally heats up the transmission on the 2.7T and 3.0 diesel to 195-200F( both same valve type). The 5.3/6.2 have a Thermostat and run much cooler. This is from first hand experience, driving these vehicles every day at work.
@kb9oak749
@kb9oak749 3 ай бұрын
Can't beat a V8. You can wind up a 4banger to impressive amounts of power, but you are still asking each cylinder to bear the strain and stress of 2 cylinders. Add to that the increased complexity of a turbo and ancillary components and the number of failure points increases dramatically.
@ericj810
@ericj810 9 ай бұрын
The 2.7 smokes the 5.3 at towing. It's just the way it's setup. Diesel like low end grunt.
@uo2230
@uo2230 11 ай бұрын
Would the 2.7 turbo wear the main bearings faster though. Seems like a lotta stress on the lower end of that engine at lower RPM pulling 8 thousand pounds.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
potentially but from what I've read the internals on this 2.7L are pretty stout components.
@doren8491
@doren8491 3 ай бұрын
I saw the 2.7L Turbo 4 cyl. review and pull test and this Chevy 5.3L. A few words to the longevity would have been nice. I remain biased against the carbon buildup from direct injection. When the pull ability on the 200 km loop test between the 2 is such a toss off minor difference, I'm still in the 5.3L camp. BUT!!!, when you say it is natural aspirated my question remains ( exposing my ignorance here), is the 5.3 fuel injected just NOT direct injected? Longevity/reliability remains very important over 1 or 2 miles per gallon less on the 5.3. Thanks for what I consider very thorough reviews!
@9663mu
@9663mu 11 ай бұрын
It’s a damn shame GM has had the same HP/TQ output for 10 years now. The 5.3 is a dog in need of some food dog food. It’s weak
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I would agree the power numbers are lacking out of the 5.3. I feel like there could be better output from that displacement
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
Car and Driver tested a 2019 Silverado 5.3 against a 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 and they were virtually tied in acceleration numbers. That isn't a dog and most truck buyers aren't street racing.
@rosendovelazquez2492
@rosendovelazquez2492 11 ай бұрын
So if the 5.3 with the 10 speed had to really "work" to maintain speed. Then it's safe to say the 5.3 with an 8 speed will have to work harder.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
In theory yes lol
@rosendovelazquez2492
@rosendovelazquez2492 11 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures bummer 😕 but I do appreciate the video
@jerrystephenson1172
@jerrystephenson1172 7 ай бұрын
While the performance of the two engine packages is fairly equal, IMHO the long term reliability has to be w/the 5.3. Smaller displacement turbo engines are more stressed to achieve the same power & that shows up later in engine life.
@davidnieves2202
@davidnieves2202 2 күн бұрын
Just traded my gladiator for a 2.7 silvarado the hwy mpg is amazing im getting 25-27 no load
@ojbarberena7090
@ojbarberena7090 Жыл бұрын
I was really hoping to see this
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
It was cool to see both engines working
@stevenpeterson7234
@stevenpeterson7234 Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, I've been super curious to see what you think of the 2023 Nissan Titan XD Pro-4X and your thoughts!! Please do a video of the Nissan soon!!
@gregnewman1292
@gregnewman1292 11 ай бұрын
I have a g2022 with the 4cyl I tow a 6900 pound camper and i am pleased with the towing the ,pg towing is a little disapointing but its tall so lots of wind resistiance but I do like the engin
@Handwrench83
@Handwrench83 Жыл бұрын
You got to try sport mode
@jordangiesbrecht05
@jordangiesbrecht05 11 ай бұрын
how did it compare rpms wise to the 5.0 coyote? i know the coyote was a little higher than the 3.5eb but i thought they were plenty low. but i do live in a flat area also so...
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Very comparible to the 5L. I felt like the 5L had a little more top end power. But they both were similar units
@agerardomp
@agerardomp 11 ай бұрын
Greetings Alex. I do not; but i like 5.3 l (súper ratón) 👍 but new technology development is imponent. And my smile is big; where work is done with great savings. Maintenance intervals and their costs, as well as long-term reliability and performance will surely be important to accentuate the best purchasing decision with the best cost-benefit ratio.
@blackericdenice
@blackericdenice 9 ай бұрын
4:30 a lot of people are fooled by the sound of a v8. It just sound like it's putting out more torque.
@JohnSmith-ev1sm
@JohnSmith-ev1sm 11 ай бұрын
Another great video Alex! Please do a 5.7 hemi sometime too with that exact load/test :). For the power differences, keep in mind that unless you're going WOT, you're not making 430 lb/ft of torque at 2000 RPMs. You're making less, so the the v8 is probably putting more torque/power down in the city because both engines are not at full throttle. That's why its so silly for us truck guys to fixate on a single number, you only get that number at WOT at a certain RPM, those specs never tell the whole story as you've demonstrated here. Also, the 2.7 is impressive in a way since you're out here comparing it to the V8 whereas GM designed it as a base engine to replace the v6 4.3. I'm sure the little 2.7 crushes that v6.
@Skindiver986
@Skindiver986 9 ай бұрын
They don’t make a 5.7 hemi anymore.
@ews360
@ews360 5 ай бұрын
2.7 turbo produces it's 430 ft lb of torque @ 3,000 rpm's, & 5.3 produces it's 383 ft lbs of torque @ 4,100 rpm's. Payload & tow ratings similar, & a couple better mpg, all for $6k less, (40,000 miles worth of 87 octane gasoline). I found less torque, similar performance for more $ to be a bad choice. Stellantis discontinued Hemi V8. Replaced w/ 3.0 liter twin turbo inline 6. Ten yrs ago Ford began 2.7 liter twin turbo V6, (makes 30 less ft lbs torque than GM turbomax). 5.3 is 25 yr old design. Will be discontinued soon.
@jnk26
@jnk26 Жыл бұрын
430lbft@1500-4000rpm will always be more capable that 383lbft@4100. Torque at rpm is HP. HP doesn't mean more capable. I laughed my ass off with your "prediction" of the 2.7 was going to wind up and rev all day long. The reason the 5.3 makes more HP than the 2.7 is because it has 8 cylinders working together making more torque at the top end of the rpm band. 5.3 V8 355hp@5600rpm is 332lbft 2.7 I4 turbo 310hp@5600rpm is 290lbft Clearly the V8 can make more torque at the top. Same story as the Duramax and Powerstroke vs the Cummins. As far as bottom 'ends go both have 5 main bearings. The 5.3 is just as complicated as the turbo, and they are both littered with serious issues. I'll keep my 9.5l/100km 3.5L Ecoboost and 9.6l/100km 6.7 Powerstroke. 500lbft@3100rpm(more than 450lbft@2000rpm) and 1050lbft@1600rpm(more than 1000lbft from 1400-2400rpm). The get up and go is a preference, "more hp" doesn't apply to this "pulling away from a light". What you feel is the N/A almost instantaneous torque generation. The turbocharged engine will alway out work the N/A. Every truck with a turbo(diesel) has delay. Everyone lives with it, fun doesn't pay the bills(just like chrome and chicken lights)
@Wade-lk4yo
@Wade-lk4yo Жыл бұрын
Yeah man I've laughed at a lot of stuff this guy has said. I believe in an earlier video about the 2.7 he was so amazed and impressed that the 2.7 came mounted longitudinally. Like did you really expect a rwd based truck to come with the engine mounted horizontally? Lost all credibility to me at that point...
@jnk26
@jnk26 Жыл бұрын
@Wade-lk4yo he makes mistakes, he is human. It's scripted(to a degree) and he says the wrong word. In dont get critical about that. Also he he has his own opinion. We're all aloud to have that. I try not to come off as "he is wrong" but someone always takes it that way in the comments. Lol. He is doing this on the side, on his own time, sometimes with someone's personal truck. He is doing a good job, and not just spewing BS online like so many other "content creators" do. Even though I don't share similar views(Cummins is not the best, FAR FROM IT) with him, I still subscribe and support him(just with minor criticism here and there). I give him an A for effort, B- for non-biased info, and a C for speed of testing. This is not his fault trucks can be hard to get hands on for testing)
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
First of all I appreciate the kind words sir! I guess when I tested the 2.7L I just had little faith in only 4 cylinders but as I found out real quick the 2.7L was no joke and pulls real nice at low rpm's. but yes the torque difference was hugely evident and the 5.3L simply lacked when pulling up some hills. Now as for the "off the line" acceleration someone pointed out that the 10 speed transmission may also give the 5.3L a gearing advantage vs the 8 speed with the 2.7L but I agree with you the N/A power is just more accessible. But without a doubt the lifter issues on the 5.3L and the 6.2L are a huge problem. but finally I will say as I keep testing more engines and trucks I have a growing appreciation of the Ecoboost and the 6.7L Powerstroke. Both engines pulled like a freighttrain in comparison to other engines in the segment.
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
Torque at 1500 RPM is pointless if the transmission will never let the RPM dip that low under full throttle. In case you aren't aware, those torque numbers you mention are only possible at wide open throttle. What happens when you press the throttle to the floor? The engine downshifts to the lowest gear possible for the current vehicle speed and load on the vehicle. That ain't going to be anywhere near 1500 RPM. That's the problem with all these crazy low RPM torque numbers with new turbocharged engines, whether it's Ford, GM or Toyota. They all know you will never be in a situation outside taking off from a stop where you will benefit from the torque below the stall point of the torque converter and it's only if you are the kind of nut job that presses the throttle all the way to the floor when taking off from a stop while towing. Gale Banks did a great video on this subject because it applies to both gas and diesel engines with automatic transmissions.
@jnk26
@jnk26 4 ай бұрын
@hochhaul you can have engine load at 100% WITHOUT flooring it(WOT). So it is possible, also the "manual mode" will hold a gear if you telling too. The FACT that the 2.7 can make more torque at 2500rpm than the 5.3 can at 4100 great. It great for the same reason an LB7 was more efficient and capable than the 8.1. Torque is what does the work. HP is just torque at rpm ove time.
@thunderbolt5354
@thunderbolt5354 8 ай бұрын
Rear Axle ratios are important in this comparison !
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
Why do you say that? Almost all GM half-tons sold since 2019 have 3.23's. You can get 3.42's if you give up the 2-speed transfer case, but with 8-speeds and 10-speeds, it's almost pointless anymore, which is why all of them are cutting down on the number of axles ratios that are offered.
@mattnewcomb4147
@mattnewcomb4147 11 ай бұрын
The tach is on the wrong side and spins the wrong way. Man that sucks. Can you switch it? I hate all the digital stuff
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
It has like 3 or 4 different configurations. It bothers me too.
@blakehowland7468
@blakehowland7468 2 ай бұрын
5.3 a 10spd? the 2.7t is 8...could be why you liked the city light to light dynamic? I have the 2.7t in refresh 430 ft/lb and it's been awesome, my buddy has the 5.3, also good, they are comparable. We drag ice fishing trailers around all winter and for plenty of fall hunting trips also. The 2.7t is quieter and more relaxed, does more work at lower rpm, I usually put a few less litres of gas in at the mid point fill ups also, and I'm lifted 4' on 33x10's, his is stock, his trailer may be a little heavier but my truck is also heavier, ext. cab vs crew cab and I carry a 400 lb fuel tank in back also. the 2.7t is the top 1/2 ton motor imo. Boost is better than cylinders, it overcomes elevation by only losing 0.05% power every 1000' elevation where NA engines lose 3%....so I have way more torque at 4000' than the 5.3, like 90 ft/lbs and at 1100 rpm less also. The 5.0 coyote is getting thrashed hard by drag racing guys so sounds like a good option if NA is a must. There's also no known warranty issues with the 2.7t and gm engineers said it's one of only 2 engines they couldn't kill in their torture testing. The 5.3/6.2 have common warranty issues like lifters etc. and the 2.7t doesn't even have lifters. No one talks about the light weight front end of the 2.7t also, very nice off-road and just daily squirting around town. It's all win with that motor, built like a diesel without the diesel headaches, long strong big jugs inline single turbo...cummins style. The 5.3/6.2 are short stroke engines, most of the competition is this way. Gm did it right and they truly built a great 'truck' engine!
@AlaskaErik
@AlaskaErik Жыл бұрын
If I was going to tow an 8000 lb trailer on a regular basis I really would prefer to have a 3/4 ton gasser. Especially since a travel trailer is going to have a lot more wind resistance. But how about doing this test with a 6.2L with 3.42 rear end. I had a 2016 5.3/6 speed/3.42 and it was a weak engine for towing, especially in the mountains. My 2019 6.2/10 speed/3.42 is a beast when it comes to towing. It would leave that 2.7 in the dust.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Yes I'm trying to get a second trailer specifically for better wind resistance because I think at highway speeds it will make a large difference. Also I've driven the 6.2 and that thing is no joke. She pulls hard
@chadbinette3201
@chadbinette3201 2 ай бұрын
My buddy has the 2.7l (2022 I think) and they sold him on the be it would tow as much as the 5.3 he traded in. Yah it might but it gets about 6/7 mpg while towing our two snowmobiles and aluminum trailer so 2000lbs max and it gets 7mpg and was running out of power going up hills while.my 5 year older 5.3L gets 16 mpg towing the exact same trailer on the exact same route and has power to accelerate up hill. Weight of trailer is one thing but a camper or enclosed trailer also has drag working like a wind sail sometimes. For me I'm buying a full size truck I want a full size motor . For years the 4.3L was the go to for a v6 in Chevy trucks to save gas and price and it was probably too reliable so gm axed it once they had it producing 300+HP . " "Gee if our engines last 300,000 miles that's money out of our pocket let's get rid of it"
@jimmycline4778
@jimmycline4778 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say the 5.3 has much much better acceleration, the videos I watched the 2.7 liter turbo was quicker 0 to 60
@alexandretempleux6912
@alexandretempleux6912 Ай бұрын
hey , i need your opinion im all torn! i want a 6 seater crew cab 6feet bed i dont tow to much at first i was looking at midsize for mpg but i rather have a full size i look at mpg and longevity of the truck im going to buy a new truck but i hope i can have it for 20year, i live in quebec in the country i need someting taught i dont care about equipement like fancy stuff! ty!
@joesilverbliss1721
@joesilverbliss1721 11 ай бұрын
How was the unload gas mileage. I have a 2014 with a 5.3L. Looking at a new truck. I also tow a 6000lb boat. Great video
@bill_b8440
@bill_b8440 5 ай бұрын
I can average about 23.5mpg driving from Western Pennsylvania to Columbus area and back to WPA... around town not so much, if its in the boost it drinks fuel. 2023 2.7l
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
I had a 2014 5.3 and 21 was the norm for my driving style and truck setup. The 2019 5.3 + 8 -speed I currently have gets 22 to 23 unloaded, completely stock. My personal best so far is 26 mpg over the 400 mile average (or whatever the longest average setting is) using premium and going for the best mileage possible.
@wayneshull8659
@wayneshull8659 Ай бұрын
I've wondered how the story would go at above 8000 feet elevation
@Weak_juan
@Weak_juan Жыл бұрын
5.3L on a friends truck had failed lifters on one bank. 5000$ bill. Now he is worried the kther side will fail
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
And it probably will will all that metal gone throught his engine
@robertspreter3027
@robertspreter3027 11 ай бұрын
I had a lifter fail on my 5.3 at 80,000 miles and it took out the camshaft. Expensive repair.
@mr.manson1195
@mr.manson1195 8 ай бұрын
Lifter failure, took out the cam. Was overall cheaper to replace the whole engine
@ews360
@ews360 5 ай бұрын
Traded my '16 @ 70k miles b4 that occurred. Oil change interval @ 7,500 miles not advisable. I did 6k miles. Traded in on 430 ft lb torque 2.7 turbo. Gained over 10% torque, similar payload & towing as V8, $6k less.
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
What mileage?
@dannyfloyd1368
@dannyfloyd1368 Ай бұрын
Wait untill those turbos start FAILING dealerships a SMILING 😂😂
@domeslacker
@domeslacker 6 ай бұрын
Seat of the pants feel, my 2021 2.7 feels noticeably faster than my 2018 5.3 was. Doesn’t really mean much to me as I felt the 5.3 was plenty quick and I’m not looking to race them anyway
@bobjackson4287
@bobjackson4287 11 ай бұрын
So basically they preform very similarly but the V8 has better MPG and is N/A? The 5.3 is much more proven design on top of it too.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Ya I would agree the design is much more proven on the 5.3
@ericj810
@ericj810 9 ай бұрын
Was both trucks in tow/haul mode? The 2.7 will have greater resistance in tow mode on down grades since timing changes.
@Matt-1992
@Matt-1992 11 ай бұрын
They need to turbo the 5.3
@francof6383
@francof6383 Жыл бұрын
i got to say I'm with the 5.3 day and night
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I think I would still lean to the 5.3L as well but the lifter issues are a serious issue.
@Johnny-vu7db
@Johnny-vu7db 5 ай бұрын
I'm going to guess youre close to sea level where youre located? I wonder if the turbo would really shine at higher altitudes, like where I am at 1000m above sea level in Alberta?
@bobcook8576
@bobcook8576 11 ай бұрын
Seriously, the weak link is in the 8speed transmission. V8 with the 10 speed is the only way to go. Better yet a 6speed combo with the non lt trail boss and work truck with the 5.3 were a carryover from the the last generation.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I have heard the 8 speeds are weak units. The 10 speed is certainly a nice upgrade and I would probably run with the 5.3 if it were my own truck.
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
I'll take the 8-speed over the 6-speed all day every day. The 6L80 is only tolerable after it's tuned by someone that knows what they're doing and it's had the trans cooler bypass thermostat swapped out so it doesn't get cooked to death.
@jarellano80
@jarellano80 Жыл бұрын
Will you be making a video but with the new LZ0 motor? Curious which of the three is the best.
@79champions
@79champions Жыл бұрын
Man, 4000 rpms up a hill. I have the 3.0 duramax. Never even close to that, same trailer weight.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
To be fair a diesel engine just doesnt rev as much but yes that 5.3 was not pulling those hills that efficiently.
@jasonbrushett2005
@jasonbrushett2005 11 ай бұрын
​@@TheGettyAdventures would take a damn big hill for the Ecoboost 3.5 to hit 4000rpm on a hill towing
@mwb5987
@mwb5987 6 ай бұрын
The 536 speed and the 53 in general, is designed to drive and be an everyday truck. Not an everyday tower, quite frankly. If you're looking for something to tell you're not going to buy a 53, you're not going to buy a 5.0 and even a 5.7, it is not your best bet we all know that diesel is the best way to go if you're towing. But when it comes to the 53 Chevy, 6 speed can't be an everyday truck.
@kylebutler7142
@kylebutler7142 11 ай бұрын
The Coyote 5.0 has to be best V8 engine in a half ton truck. Good power, good economy and good reliability. Once again Ford kicks A$$.
@campbell0162
@campbell0162 8 ай бұрын
With a cost to worse reliability. Chevy is definitely more reliable, regardless of it being a 2.7 or a 5.3
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
LOL until they ruined it with that oil pump belt and cylinder deactivation. The put the belt at the front but it takes even more labor to replace than the labor estimate for that 3.0 Duramax. Ford just had to route the belt behind a timing chain.
@Oneshawdog89
@Oneshawdog89 Ай бұрын
Found On Road DeaD
@nunya1667
@nunya1667 2 ай бұрын
Forced induction engines will never have the long term durability as N/A engines. They have to work harder to do the same work. 209k miles on my 2017 5.3 and still hums along knocking down 19-20 mpg on the highway. A 2.7 will likely have turbo failure and engine blow-by long before then.
@Chipponada
@Chipponada 6 ай бұрын
If 2.7 had the 10 speed auto it would be the best engine combo
@JoseFlores-zp9hb
@JoseFlores-zp9hb Жыл бұрын
Why not compare the 5.0L with the 5.3L
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I thought about it, but I thought it would be cool to see how the 4 cylinder stacks up to a "traditional" pickup truck engine. but I haved towing with the 5L and it pulls better.
@BouncingBaller
@BouncingBaller Жыл бұрын
5.3L is proven, Although it had its issues throughout its 25+ year life span. The 2.7L has a lot to prove for the next 20 years. Me, I'm a true believer that, there is no replacement for displacement. especially when towing,,, ESPECIALLY. A small displacement engine will have to go through a ton of "putting in the miles" to prove itself in the considered towing club.
@mitchell5064
@mitchell5064 11 ай бұрын
A naturally aspirated engine will always be more reliable than a turbo engine aswell.
@TheFishAirman
@TheFishAirman 11 ай бұрын
This 5.3 liter has not been around for 25+years. The only thing this has in common with the previous Vortec 5.3 is its displacement. The Ecotec3 line of engines have quite a bit of difference to the Vortec line.
@mt186
@mt186 11 ай бұрын
​@@mitchell5064Yet a lot of "reliable" diesel motors are turbocharged...
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
the 2.7L has ALOT of proving to do, no doubt about that but so far it does seem to be impressing people. I think the earlier 5.3's were absolutely bulletproof engines, today they are a shell of what they used to be.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
I will say almost every single diesel engine in the last 40 years has come with a turbo and well they seem to run a million miles pretty decently.
@sean7119
@sean7119 8 ай бұрын
2 honest questions 1- how many miles, on average, does a turbo last? 2- if a motor is tuned more to the max hp/tq that can be achieved, isn’t that a recipe against reliability? AFM does suck but I think the 5.3 is detuned more from the factory. That can lead to more longevity.
@slocavky
@slocavky Жыл бұрын
You said 3.5 V8 in the video... lol.. do a lm2 against them next. I know you've done them before but I love this content.
@tylervance0146
@tylervance0146 7 ай бұрын
So i could be wrong, but overall reliability, isn't it 3.0>4.3>2.7>6.2>5.3?
@tntrailrider7379
@tntrailrider7379 4 ай бұрын
Kinda hard to tell at this point with 2 newer engines in the mix.
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
LOL why are you ranking the 4.3 above the 6.2 or 5.3? They all use the same lifters. 99% of AFM/DFM lifter failures that occur at higher mileage are due to people not changing their oil often enough. The system has tiny oil passages and screens that get clogged up with the soot and sludge that accumulates when the oil is left in the engine too long. Engine oil filters are useless at capturing these contaminants. Every time someone on here says they had a 5.3 with a lifter problem, it turns out that they were going 6k or 7k miles between oil changes. That's the fastest way to a lifter problem.
@davidmartin7589
@davidmartin7589 5 ай бұрын
Hey Dubas, trade those big trucks for something smaller
@jamescherney5874
@jamescherney5874 9 ай бұрын
I think it is laughable that these high tech complicated engines offer very little power or fuel economy advantage over the standard 350 small block or 454 big block. I have towed huge horse trailers, big flat beds and a 45 ft 21000 lb toy hauler and my 502 ci big block in my opinion can' t be beat even by the diesels. The new truck just arn' t worth the money to get a little better gas mileage.
@scottysgarage4393
@scottysgarage4393 11 ай бұрын
The 5.3 with basic regular maintenance will be going strong at 250,000 miles. The boosted mouse motor will be in its second, possibly third rebuild and third turbo...assuming anyone is willing to spend that kind of money on it At 130k miles the V8 will be worth 30 to 50% more than the mouse motor, assuming the latter is still intact. Already seeing this at auctions every week with Fords.
@ericj810
@ericj810 9 ай бұрын
Buddys 2.7 is at 209k miles pulls 7400lbs camper 90% of the time. Only issue was a brake pad sensor. It's been reliable for him.
@scottysgarage4393
@scottysgarage4393 9 ай бұрын
@@ericj810 Good for him. He got one in 100,000. Hope it goes another 200k...because he can't get 5k out of it in trade so he might as well keep it.
@danielbonner8309
@danielbonner8309 8 ай бұрын
Bro the 5.3 is why GMs reliability ratings are tanking. You know AFM lifter failure. Who wants to deal with that Sh!t. The 4.3 was more reliable and I'm betting this engine will be as well.
@scottysgarage4393
@scottysgarage4393 8 ай бұрын
@@danielbonner8309 The VAST majority of DoD LS engines run a quarter million miles. The deletion of DoD is easy, especially compared to Ford cam phaser issues, or any service o boosted 4/6 cyl engins. Reliability and market strength are easy to discern at the auction block and LS trucks rule that. Boosted mouse motors are hard to get rid of at fire-sale prices, but you tell yourself whatever you need to hear.
@danielbonner8309
@danielbonner8309 8 ай бұрын
@@scottysgarage4393 Your talking the auction block, I'm talking about reliability. I understand there is a big stigma over a 4cyl in a fullsize. Many people will never like that and that's understandable. It's hard to believe that a boosted 4 will fair better than a na 8 Ls. Time will tell if this is a viable workhorse or a failed science experiment.
@neiljuedes1661
@neiljuedes1661 6 ай бұрын
The more the turbos need to run to push the engine power the sooner you will be repairing or replacing them.The previous responder is correct I don’t know what GM did to the 5.3 after the 07 year put the ruined it. Of coarse the reason may be because the earlier 5.3’s were lasting to long.
@JHuffPhoto
@JHuffPhoto Жыл бұрын
4 cylinder gas turbo engine is not as efficient under load because the ECM will make the A/F ratio more rich to control the temps. The 2.7 is indeed an impressive little powerplant, but if I were looking at a GM gas truck, I would probably stick with the V8 if nothing else for the sound. I noticed the same higher reving while towing when I switched from an ecoboost to my 5.7 HEMI. The ecoboost was definitely a more relaxed towing machine. Really, the 2.7 likely has less moving parts since it only has 4 pistons and one head with only half the valvetrain components.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын
Did temps need to be controlled in this test? Didnt sound like that was the case unless I missed something with temps or fuel economy (to indicate increased fuel usage from a richer AF ratio).
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 Жыл бұрын
Once the turbo fails you are completely crippled. And Turbos are not for economy at all, it's all a lie.
@JHuffPhoto
@JHuffPhoto Жыл бұрын
@ALMX5DP Yes, they did. I am not talking about coolant temps or transmission temps. I am talking about the cylinder temps. For a given power output, a turbo gasoline engine will almost always have to add additional fuel to keep the cylinder temperatures under control. It is just physics. That is why Ford's ecoboost engines are either eco or boost but not both. They are very efficient under light loads, but when you put your foot into it, they guzzle the fuel. Part of this is due to the richer A/F mixture required to control the cylinder temps. There is no free ride if you want both the high torque of a turbo and better fuel economy of a small displacement you need to move to diesel.
@JHuffPhoto
@JHuffPhoto Жыл бұрын
@shadowopsairman1583 Although a turbo is not always the best answer, there is a reason that big rigs all use turbocharged engines. I had a 2012 F150 with the 3.5 twin turbo and the turbos never failed even after 200k miles. Other components failed but the core components of the powertrain did not fail.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP Жыл бұрын
@@JHuffPhoto well i presume by "under control" you meant that those cylinder temperatures would escalate and not be able to be handled by the cooling system (therefore increasing coolant temps).
@TimO-D
@TimO-D Жыл бұрын
At 4:33 is says 68 Mpg lol I know you meant to say 68 Mph but 68 Mpg in a 1/2 ton class pick up would be amazing
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 11 ай бұрын
lol best mileage ever eh
@ChrisDIYerOklahoma
@ChrisDIYerOklahoma 24 күн бұрын
I have owned two trucks with the 5.3L...not bad. Never had any issues. My latest truck is a 2021 GMC Sierra AT4 with the 6.2L. Again, no issues. It is not a "flex fuel" vehicle like the 5.3L ones. And the owners manual says not to use ethanol mixed fuels. Actually, it says for max fuel mileage and performance -- 93 octane. Indeed, feed it 93 octane pump gas (non ethanol) and it is one quick truck. I disabled the auto start/stop and AFM cylinder deactivation. CAI, canned tune, and exhaust. I am sure the 2.7L is quite fine for what it can do...but, would never own a full size truck without a V8. In the Colorado/Canyon size pickup trucks...yeh, turbo 2.7L makes more sense.
@brentmcmahon8188
@brentmcmahon8188 11 ай бұрын
Any thing you put a turbo on it’s a half engine life for sure
@jamesmlavelle5891
@jamesmlavelle5891 6 ай бұрын
Hello i have a 22 gmc with the 5.3 afm. What do yiu think of installing a disabler? Or just turn the button to off after starting?
@hochhaul
@hochhaul 4 ай бұрын
Change your oil more often and you won't have to worry about lifter issues. If you live in a cold climate or drive a lot of short trips, change the oil every 3 to 4k miles. In the summer you can stretch it out to 5k max. Exxon Mobil torture tests vehicles with their engine oils. They torture tested a 2015 Silverado with the 5.3 and put 520k miles on the truck without a single lifter issue. They tore the engine down and showed all the parts. They were in perfect condition. The biggest difference between what they had and what the average 5.3 that has a lifter problem is that the engine with the lifter problem is driven on short trips in cold weather and can develop sludge if the oil isn't changed much more often.
@panchovia
@panchovia 3 ай бұрын
Drive in l9
@lieberalsrmarxists83
@lieberalsrmarxists83 9 ай бұрын
Why didn't you compare it to a Chevy 6.2L 1500?
@joem4746
@joem4746 8 ай бұрын
6.2 has over 100hp more. 420hp to 310hp. There’s no comparison.
@tonyd3266
@tonyd3266 5 ай бұрын
my 2020 2.7L runs better on 87 octane than 91 and gets better mpg. but forget engine braking with the 2.7
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