F-150 PowerStroke Diesel (3.0L) Engine Gets DISCONTINUED | Why Did It FAIL??
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9 ай бұрынThe F-150 PowerStroke 3L Diesel Engine gets discontinued and I explained as a heavy duty mechanic some reason why this small diesel engine Failed. I go over some common issues with this 3L powerstroke diesel engine as well as power rating and fuel economy. Bottom line people were buying the Ecoboost engines over the diesel powerstroke option
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I hope everyone is having a great week. I've really wanted to do a review on the 3L powerstroke diesel engine in the F150's but I've had a hard time tracking one down.
I find it interesting that this 3L diesel engine only last 3 years in the f150 and eventually discontinued due to lack of sales or lack of interest. the main competition to this engine the Ram EcoDiesel has had tons of interest and still gets alot of interest so it was a little shocking to hear people were not buying it.
Now looking at all the engine options from ford it does make some sense. the ecoboost line up seems to be really popular because you can get the economy of a diesel as well as the torque. but you don't have to deal with the headache of modern diesel emission systems.
speaking of emissions these 3L powerstroke diesel engines is no exception to having issues. these engines are know for clogging EGR coolers woth soot as well as DPF clogging up with soot. the best thing you can do if you own one of these engines is to lose the emission systems. these engines were also known for bottom end failures. the crankshafts and crankshaft bearings have been found to fail.
anyways guys I hope you liked the video!
@Loyal2Ford 9 ай бұрын
I'd like to add you could only buy the powerstroke in the higher trim packages of the F150 (lariat, King Ranch or Platinum) unless it was sold to a fleet company. So sticker prices for the diesels were usually over 60k. It basically priced itself out of the market.
@deepseadiver57 6 ай бұрын
My only problem with your statement is that: Why are you willing to spend $55-70k, for a gas truck? Diesel was 60k, For the gas truck, a well taken care of, might get 200k-300k before a new or rebuild is needed. Diesel engines just get "broke in" at 100k miles.
@257Tony 5 ай бұрын
@@deepseadiver57 That hasn't been true for the last 10-15 years. Modern diesels just don't last like they used, this isn't a 5.9 Cummins or 7.3 Powerstroke
@benjaminlambert8944 7 ай бұрын
I own this truck. It gets at least 28 miles per gallon combined. The best I’ve gotten is 31 when I really try. I stealth tuned it and I get a lot more power. My state does not allow deleting of the environmental crap. I think this is the best engine ford had offered.
@tobybrodie6905 23 күн бұрын
What tuner did you use?
@ChrisRobato 9 ай бұрын
It's only discontinued in the US. It can still be found in the global Ford Rangers, which also uses Ford diesel engines that were never seen in the US such as the 2.0 Ecoblue Biturbo. The 3.0 V6 turbo diesel is the higher engine option while the 2.0 biturbo Ecoblue is the base engine. Yes the global Ford Ranger doesn't use the same engines as the US Ford Ranger.
@kylebutler7142 9 ай бұрын
The 3.0 V6 turbo diesel in the new Rangers is a revised unit once again, and from all reports is a reliable, powerful, sweet motor.
@JohnSmith-ev1sm 9 ай бұрын
The biggest issue (now) buying a used PS 3.0, finding a competent mechanic to fix them. Thousands of mechanics can work on a 5.7 hemi, they're everywhere and parts are cheap and easily available. This 3.0? Good luck with that when you're on a cross country trip and it decides to strand you in some tiny town in Saskatchewan.
@laytunes1376 9 ай бұрын
my 3.0 PSD has been the most reliable ford i've owned. Had more issues with my 6.2 gasser than this one. As long as you take care of your fuel system and oil, should have no issues. which has been my experience.
@craigwheeler2057 9 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s odd that you had trouble with the 6.2 gasser as it was known to be really reliable. That said no matter how well built, there is always a small percentage of problematic ones.
@SurelyYewJest 9 ай бұрын
Without watching the video, they canceled it because it wasn't selling, and because the EcoBoost is more easily tunable to make quite a bit more power, to say nothing of the hybrid version. I have seen so few F150 Power Strokes in the major city I live in, and I swear they discontinued it a couple years ago. The Ram EcoDiesel was already on its way out when the 3.0 PS launched, and while Ford beat GM to market, the 3.0 Duramax in comparison has been a smashing success. I see them all the time whether it's Tahoes and Yukons, or Silverados and Sierras.
@borandell9915 8 ай бұрын
I have the Ford 2018 V6 3.0 Diesel (Lion). I purchased it new in early 2019. And I love it. The somewhat hidden reason Ford killed it almost as soon as it was introduced? There were already too many motor options, and they were frantically trying to make room for the Lighting. So, what did they kill to make room for the Lightning. The Little Lion. Now that I am out of warranty, I will delete the emissions bullshit to get better performance and longevity. It is the perfect truck for me. Great video.
@cyr2795 8 ай бұрын
It has 2 timing belts, and 2 chains! That thing is SUPER goofy
@deepseadiver57 6 ай бұрын
I believe they killed it because of the extraordinary fuel mileage. At 70 mph from NC to FL and I am NOT babying it or exaggerating, 38 mpg hwy....28 in town! Pulled a enclosed trail full, to Maine, better mileage than my 6.7 Power Stroke
@Cloud30000 6 ай бұрын
They would never kill it due to good fuel mileage; they spend billions to get a fraction of a percent better fuel rating for their fleet to meet EPA regulations for half ton and smaller consumption.
@Pitcrw6 3 ай бұрын
My wife has a 2018 F150 with the 3.0 diesel. She loves it. It has a 6" lift with 35" tires and she gets 22 mpg average. The real reason it was discontinued be Ford claims it didn't sell. Well it didn't sell because Ford didn't market it. They only cared for their garbage ecoboost engines that have so many problems. I talked to so many people that didn't know Ford put a diesel in a F150. Marketing is everything.
@borandell9915 3 ай бұрын
@@Pitcrw6 True. Sounds like your wife has a nice truck. Ford didn't market it because they foolishly thought we were all going to switch to EV Trucks. Bad move. Anyway, I'm still enjoying mine. It's my daily driver. My adventure rig is a 2022 3.0 Diesel 4x4 Sprinter Van Sanctuary 19L.
@TheRagingpirate 9 ай бұрын
I have the Ram Ecodiesel and it's solid. It's a 2016 with 217,000km on it and I've never had a issue with the engine
@gcc3996 9 ай бұрын
Always enjoy your videos. I've had a 2014 ecodiesel in a Laramie 1500 with 3:92 rear end since new. It now has 271k kms and continues to be my daily driver, including pulling a 35' travel trailer to Florida & back yearly. Biggest issue has been the tone ring, best thing I ever did was a hot tune from GDE (egr delete, left everything else intact). I expect my next vehicle will be the Chev/GMC with the 3.0 duramax. I know you think highly of them and I've appreciated your review(s). My big concern would be the 0W20 oil, in a relativity small crankcase (7 US quarts) - along with the oil pump belt change. Seems quite a step down from the 11 US quarts of 5W40 for the ecodiesel. (Wish you were still at your shop east of Ospringe) My Ram is in good shape, so hopefully I won't have to make a decision any time soon!
@LucasLeCompteMusic 9 ай бұрын
They locked this engine behind the most expensive tier. They didnt really care about it. The only one who did it kinda well with 150 trucks is Chevy/GMC.
@johnddaley 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, this engine wasn’t available on anything under a lariat trim level. So already on an overpriced trim level, but also overpriced as an engine upgrade as well.
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
yes GM although not perfect did a fantastic job with their 3L duramax.
@LocoF111 9 ай бұрын
No sir. It was available im the XL and XLT trims as well. Get on autotrader. When i was shopping for a few trucks i ran into a couple 3.0 XLTs
@joerapo 9 ай бұрын
It really made no sense. A person that buys the highest trim F150 is not likely to be that concerned over fuel economy. The 3.5 Ecoboost and mild hybrid are superior in the power department. Another thing that makes little to no sense is why manufacturers don't offer these mini diesels in HD trucks. Not everyone wants and most people don't need 1000ft/ld of torque. Many get by with the 400ish that the gas models offer. With the mini diesels you could get that same power level but with considerably better fuel mileage.
@hqoffroad 9 ай бұрын
The real problem is that the auto crankshaft bearing destroyed every 76000km on piston 2 and 4 if is not well installed at production at lion and check at team powerstroke. Story lived by me without county transmission problem on bearings 1,2,3 and the valve body and the 5 that jumps for fun 😎 🤣👌.
@deffness356 8 ай бұрын
Love to see a mechanic promoting emissions removal on KZfaq!
@ojbarberena7090 9 ай бұрын
In Europe this engine has a reputation of breaking crankshafts.
@ohaggdah 9 ай бұрын
Alex, I'd love to see a combo-video about the VM Motori Jeep/Chrysler 2.8 CRD / 2.8 GM Duramax. Italian VM Motori eventually sold the design rights to GM and the design was updated and carried on with production in Thailand (I think) by GM. With some differences (mostly emissions related) the 2005-2006 US Jeep diesel and the 2.8 GM baby Duramax are essentially more or less the same. It'd be fun to see your take on this quirky and somewhat rare-ish little 4-cylinder diesel :)
@8rett 9 ай бұрын
In general (and owning one of these), the biggest issues with the 3.0 drivetrain is not actually with the 3.0 itself, it's with the 10R80 transmission behind it. I have a sneaking suspicion that Ford just threw another engines shift mapping on the transmission and it doesn't deal with the low down torque of a diesel well at all. There's a few crankshaft destructions that I've seen in the community (all with early 2018s) but for the most part are very reliable. Too bad you aren't in Colorado, I'd bring in my super weird non-premium optioned 4x4 F150 King Ranch 3.0 by for a visit! I think they're definitely going to be a cult classic type truck, I don't see the value of clean and weird optioned ones going down that significantly, especially in non emissions areas!
@deepseadiver57 6 ай бұрын
I purchased my 2018 F 150 3.0 diesel in Sept. of 2023 w/ extremely low mileage. 4 words to sum it all up; Fords best kept secret! Awesome truck!
@NateMac434 5 ай бұрын
Delete and tune is man. Trust me. I have one done and it’s unreal fuel economy and performance
@rangervapes571 7 ай бұрын
Have you changed out the oil pump in your Power Wagon yet? Changed mine out this weekend to prevent the "Hemi tick".
@buseyx 9 ай бұрын
In general, the 3.0 PS seen good reliability for the MOST part, you only hear all the bad things like on every vehicle, never when its running fine, some people run the s**t out of them and wonder why they're broke down. I have a 2018 3.0 PS that had been deleted since 6k miles. It runs great, there are tuning options unlike the 3.0 Dmax. But what the achilles heel seems to be is 10R80 Trans issues, I've seen more people with trans issues than anything thus far. I drive mine easy, take care of it best I can, deleted and tunned I get about 24.5mpg city & 29 hywy with 31'' k02 AT tires, stock tires most guys get about 31-34 hywy, deleted of course. 9k pounds and under of towing about 14-16mpg hywy
@thelos8093 9 ай бұрын
If ford sold them with any trim including the very basic model, those engines would have sold like hot cakes.
@ysitrim88 9 ай бұрын
Need to do a review on the 2.7 ecoboost 😊 I believe it's the most reliable ecoboost engine. I will sacrifice a little less power for reliability. I love my 2.7 in my 2015 F-150!
@josipdolic6391 9 ай бұрын
I believe that’s better engine than new 2.7 Know a buddy of mine who still runs it with no issues (2016 )
@jarrodtemplar2832 8 ай бұрын
I agree with previois comments, this engine was placed on high end trucks and it was impossible to pay for such elitist engine. I had a friend who got one in the used market and has been perfect for him.he had to pull a trailer and this engine is very strong. It is expensive to maintain and you need to chnage fuel filters more often but the engine is very strong and surprisingly is very quiet, it does not have for some people the annoying “diesel clacking “ that for me is very nice and musical because I drive large diesel trucks.
@vijaybhogal456 9 ай бұрын
GM has been the best so far with the 3.0L diesel market. Instantly sell out before they even hit dealer lots
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
The inline 6 3L duramax is a great engine.
@vijaybhogal456 9 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures im looking to get that or the 5.3 in the elevation trim from GMC in 2024
@treetopace 7 ай бұрын
. The GM 3.0L duramax (LM2) was especially great with the price of diesel back in 2019/2020. Now about that 10 speed - best transmission I've ever had -PERIOD.
@TheAirSofterblaster200 9 ай бұрын
Like you mentioned on, All of Fords engines will tow big numbers. The limiting factor isn’t the power it’s the sticker on the truck. 8200# on the N/A V6 and everything else is over 10k. So what’s the point?
@derickbabb3824 9 ай бұрын
I custom ordered my Ram with a Ecodiesel in 2021 4X4 with the 6.4ft bed 3.21 gears. I haven’t had a single issue with it so far has 28,000 miles on it. The fuel economy amazes me every time I fill it up and check it. Power wise it’s a dog, but I’m willing to put it with that for close to 30mpg on the interstate.
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
When they are running well they are great engines! I can't deny that.
@andyriggs4542 9 ай бұрын
Wait it's coming around 70000 had one once it gets there everything starts going out the erg the intake and everything else
@CarringtonHollister 14 күн бұрын
I’m looking to get a PowerStroke 3.0 F150 in the not too distant future‼️
@309gti8 9 ай бұрын
When these first came out, I really wanted one. I recently discovered the Jaguar influence, and then my desire to own one was greatly diminished lol.
@hackfreehvac 9 ай бұрын
Depending on how far back the engine development was, Ford OWNED Jaguar (and Land Rover, Austin Martin, Volvo and others) until the recession when Ford sold them off. Before the split there were shared development. i.e. the Ford Thunderbird and the Jaguar S-Type are the same car under the skin. Ford also owned controlling stock of Mazda until that period, which is why original development of direct injected turbo engines had some similarities with Mazda speed and Ford engines. To a certain point.
@dmandman9 4 ай бұрын
This engine is a nightmare to work on. As a mechanic at a ford dealership, I’m glad it’s gone.
@WillS644 5 ай бұрын
Did you ever get your hands on a 3.0 powerstroke? I have one in Maine.
@hpwan2 3 ай бұрын
they put the Lion engine in Ford Ranger / Everest as well as VW Amarok. pretty good power and the waiting list to get one is pretty long (compare to the 2.0L diesel version)
@smorrell169 6 ай бұрын
I own a 3.0 Ford Diesel with 140,000 miles... no emissions systems issues. I religiously change my oil with the Ford specified oil. Very reliable.
@roypacheco6122 5 ай бұрын
I have a 2021, I now have the P2002 DPF code. 37k miles
@jasonbrushett2005 9 ай бұрын
Hey Alex the 3.3 v6 is the base engine in the F150 and the 2.7 Ecoboost is a $1600 option I do believe
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Fair enough, makes sense actually. thank you sir!
@user-jb5tz3hq2o 4 ай бұрын
How do you remove the emission stuff off a 3.0? Thanks
@chriss526 9 ай бұрын
Wish I lived closer to you….would let you have mine for a day to review! I have a 2021 f150 xlt with the 3.0L diesel. Bought it new in June of 21 right before they announced the discontinuation of the option. Currently have about 35k miles on it and it’s been great. Not one issue. I mainly chose it for the fuel economy since it’s my daily driver, but also to tow a 4k pound travel trailer occasionally. Fuel economy in just average everyday mixed driving mostly city is about 23mpg pretty consistently. On vacation last summer all interstate from IN to NC and back with cruise set to 75mph we got a solid 30mpg. Love this powertrain. Great torque. Great economy. Quiet and smooth. Too bad it’s not an option any longer in NA. But honestly, being a diesel fan myself….I didn’t even know that ford had a diesel option for the f150 until I started looking around for trucks. They just did not market the option at all. But I feel like I own a bit of a unicorn now.
@roypacheco6122 5 ай бұрын
Same here. Currently at 37k miles. I just got a DPF code p2002. I recommend adding dpf cleaner. I am currently running the dpf cleaner, hoping the code clears.
@user-ue6cg1re1p 8 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for the 2.7L ecoboost!
@dainemdkiff6213 Ай бұрын
I bought a used 3.0 powerstroke and it has been in the shop more than I have drove it. All related to NoX related engine codes. They have replaced the NoX sensors and all DPF related parts. Still getting codes.
@krisramos7453 9 ай бұрын
"love it probably more than I should" sums up how most truck owners feel
@mxrevival 9 ай бұрын
We have a 2016 Range Rover w/ what I believe is an earlier version (or the same) of this 3.0 diesel engine. It’s got the FoMoCo stamps all over the engine castings. We’d LOVE to delete it, just seems difficult to locate an ECU tuner / company that specializes in the R.R. version. It’s been reliable though. 80k miles, still re-gen’s fine. Only issue was a frozen DEF injector, which was easy to disconnect and back flush w/ a 12V source & brake cleaner. Looking forward to “delete day”!
@tinkeringtime6390 8 ай бұрын
Not positive but I believe VelocityAP may offer it.
@LindsayPeters987 9 ай бұрын
Another great video :)
@tomtom1313 Ай бұрын
I love my 2018 F150 Powerstroke!
@jamesgeorge4874 2 ай бұрын
The 3.0 powderstroke v6 has a rubber timing belt, which disqualifed it as something worth buying, unless you planned to sell it before it's out of warranty.
@MrTsimpson123 9 ай бұрын
I would love to see you do Mercedes-Benz Sprinter with their 3.0 diesel they also have a 2.1
@borandell9915 8 ай бұрын
That would be cool. Interesting, I own two vehicles, the 3.0 Ford diesel F150 4x4 and the 3.0 Mercedes diesel Sprinter 4x4 Sanctuary van. Love them both. And both have been discontinued. The new Sprinter's will have the 4 cylinder, and no 4x4 option (going to AWD).
@portersorensen8814 7 ай бұрын
The difference I see in interest between the ecodiesel and the Powerstroke is that the Ecodiesel only has the 5.7 and the 3.6 to compete with both of which being good for their application but still leaving a hole in the market that the ecodiesel easily fills. Its the same with the 3.0 Duramax. Ford already had an engine option for just about every possible buyer. So it just got washed out. Plus the diesel niche outside of HD has always been small in North America
@edwardpate6128 9 ай бұрын
At the end of the day the 3.0 Duramax reigns supreme!
@laytunes1376 4 ай бұрын
The duramax CP4's failed mainly because they had no lift pump in the tank, so the pump would have to both draw from the tank, and boost to 30,000 PSI. These trucks have an in tank boost pump, that brings pressurized fuel to the CP4, and takes a ton of load off it. They also commonly fail when people get water, or air into the pumps. Air being the main killer, so if you have no lift pump, and you change your fuel filter, you have a period where the pump would be running without lubrication, and that destroyed them. On the fords, after you change the filter, turning the key on and off without starting runs the main pump, and purges all the air in the fuel loop up to the CP4, so if you do it properly, you'll have no issues with air getting to the pump. Much better design, and very few have failed.
@erwinecaletena 9 ай бұрын
can you please review the 3.5 powerboost f150
@MoGhotbi 4 ай бұрын
I love my 3L baby Powerstroke F150. Got a great deal on the truck - nobody wanted it and it was marked down and actually cheaper than the ecoboost. The Powerboost is a great idea but has the worst reliability of any powertrain Ford currently makes.
@kennytomaz 9 ай бұрын
The power boost came out in 2021 after they got rid of the power stroke diesel 3L. I was told that’s what they replaced The diesel was with the hybrid 3.5 L.
@borandell9915 8 ай бұрын
I had a Ford guy tell me they killed the little Lion (3.0 diesel) to make room for the Lightning. It didn't sell good because it was only offered in high end packages and it was never marketed. No advertising.
@morgansmith2087 9 ай бұрын
Here in Australia Ford recently released a new Ranger and it's available with an optional 3.0 td. I wonder if it's the same engine(?) If it is, it's getting very long in the tooth, as you stated it was available in the Ford Territory here several years ago🤔
@laytunes1376 9 ай бұрын
yup same engine. wouldn't hesitate.
@kx519 2 ай бұрын
Still not sure why they chose the 3.0 over the 4.5L powerstroke that has been in the medium duty trucks forever.
@demoncomand 7 ай бұрын
I feel that there are 2 large issues that caused the 3.0ps to be discontinued. Emissions being on the engine cause a lot of issues on any diesel. The second is poor marketing for where the 3.0 thrives, 1/2 ton towing truck. I own a 3.0ps and my father has a 3.5 Ecoboost with the same enclosed trailer the 3.0 will double or better the mpg of the 3.5
@bertwilson4311 9 ай бұрын
I own an F-150 powerstroke. The engine if fine for it's purpose, but it never excels at anything. I get 24 - 25 mpg, which as noted about not excelling is good but not great. My counterpoint is that , I did 700 highway miles in a 2.7T rental F-150 that you state gets better fuel economy, and I was swilling fuel to the tune of 19 mpg (literally hauling two suitcases and nothing more). A 30% difference in fuel consumption is a big deal, especially if you live somewhere like I do where diesel is cheaper than regular unleaded. Biggest issue is that Ford never marketed them and saddled them with all sorts of configuration handicaps. No 8' bed. No heavy duty payload package. Lariat and up trim only. We've been approached several times by people that had no idea they ever made a diesel F-150. Timing belts get a bad rap. The beauty of them is that they maintain timing until they snap or until they get changed. Timing chains these days are not the little SBC types that lasted forever. Today, there are typically 2 or 3 chains on a given engine, and they stretch while their guides and tensioners wear out. This throws the engine out of time which gradually reduces performance. I'll bite the bullet and change out the belt once or twice over the life of the engine. Emissions issues seem pretty rare on these engines. I personally have never had an emissions related issue on this truck (or any of my diesel vehicles).
@pr4lviper 9 ай бұрын
When a full service on ram 2500 6.7?
@RVMD95 9 ай бұрын
I pity those who have the 3 L diesel. I bet Parts will be very hard to come by.
@georgesipple1356 6 ай бұрын
It is a very established engine with no parts issues.
@DEVUNK88 6 ай бұрын
diesel engines of the past were popular because of their torque, simplicity, reliability, and long life spans.....but they were simple. The regs and emmsions have made them very compicated, less reliable, and more costly. They still have a place in the right vehicle but sadly not in anything light duty
@laynesmith9077 7 ай бұрын
My 2015 ecodiesel has treated me very well. I bought it used with 85,000 miles on it and the previous owner already had all of the emissions taken off and had it tuned so i may have gotten lucky with that.
@TheGettyAdventures 7 ай бұрын
if there were no emissions on the Ecodiesel they would of been a massive success. The emissions killed those engines.
@treetopace 7 ай бұрын
Emissions has neutered every modern engine. The only ones thought to be successful were eventually caught cheating.
@wasupfool5692 9 ай бұрын
Their small diesel failed because of the price, poor fuel economy compared to GM and Ram, plus it was underpowered
@jasonbrushett2005 9 ай бұрын
I'm a Ford guy and was always interested in the baby PowerStroke but the $4000 cost was too much for me
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Yes that is a steep price for the diesel option. especially when you are getting very middle of the road performance in comparison to other engine options!
@BloodiedYetUnbowed 9 ай бұрын
GM’s 3.0 Duramax diesel is only like USD 1500 more than the 5.3 V8
@jarrodtemplar2832 8 ай бұрын
I travel around and there are places that diesel fuel is about the same as 83 oct or even lower and I do visit hundreds of gas stations all over. So in the long run diesel price will pay off the investment. Eventually if gasoline becomes scarce, diesel will be still available becuase we nned it for our 18 wheelers. @@TheGettyAdventures
@nathanriggins5271 9 ай бұрын
The #1 issue is for forced buyers to get a lariat or better trim to get it and then it was another 2500 or more dolor option. Not sure about in Canada, but if people are looking for a diesel and its costing north of 65K for the sticker, they then go and look at the 250 with the 6.7. Ford essentially killed the motor before it had a chance by slotting it too luxury buyers. The flip side is true with the I6 from GM, that can be had in any trim level and is only around 1K as an option.
@LocoF111 9 ай бұрын
It was available on the XLT and XL
@nathanriggins5271 9 ай бұрын
@bernardomarron5554 only late 2019 did that happen. It was otherwise xl and xlt for commercial and fleet. I researched this engine a lot. Ford had no real intention of it being around long or a volume seller. I wanted one but didn't pull the trigger due to the fact that when I went to have it configured for a build sheet the dealer stated lariat and up. This was when it was first coming out.
@dmandman9 4 ай бұрын
@@nathanriggins5271 they may be reliable and decent performers. But we Ford Technicians HATE THEM . They are a nightmare to repair.
@dmandman9 4 ай бұрын
The 2.7 is the current base engine. The 3.3 has also been continued.
@rl1271 9 ай бұрын
Would you recommend the 3.0 Duramax for me if I drive 80% of my time 7 miles at a time? I usually drive longer than 10 miles 2 times a month. I heard short trips are bad for the duramax
@d.williams6891 9 ай бұрын
I’m not sure how the smaller diesels work but I know short drives like that would clog the DPF on the full sized F250s, 350s, etc. I’d recommend if you get one, put a 4” straight pipe on it and get some good tunes for the engine and transmission.
@rl1271 9 ай бұрын
@@d.williams6891 I don’t wanna rock straight pipes too much hassle and too loud. I might just get the 6.2l gas if duramax won’t be good for me
@d.williams6891 9 ай бұрын
@@rl1271 Ahh I gotcha! The newer trucks do require some labor for removing the equipment. I could be completely wrong about the smaller diesels and short trips though, so I would definitely recommend doing some research into how they operate, and hopefully Getty will chime in with his knowledge.
@pr4lviper 9 ай бұрын
Also you can show the vehicle with the eco diesel you own? A review?
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Yep! that's something I plan on doing!
@noelcahill6707 6 ай бұрын
That 3ltr diesel lion engine is a peugeot made crock that blows cranks
@hackfreehvac 9 ай бұрын
Damn *DEF FLUID* and the insane engine & economy killing *REGEN mode* is killing the diesel market.
@tomtom1313 8 ай бұрын
I have a 3.0 power stroke F150 and absolutely love it! I would certainly loan it to you for a review although I live in Kelowna, British Columbia
@thewhitedemon0761 9 ай бұрын
The base engine is the 3.3, I think ford should’ve kept it and upped the power and torque and the economy like GM did on their 3.0 duramax, which should make for an interesting review, but I think you should give an opinion on it but I think Ram also discontinued its ecodiesel engine as well and the only 2 diesels I’d choose is a 2003 dodge Ram 2500 5.9 cr Cummins AND the Nissan titan xd 5.0 Cummins but no hate against the big 3 but I like the old stuff that works and all 3 are good in their own way but I just would rather have a 03 common rail Cummins and a v8 Cummins vs anything else
@hitempguy 9 ай бұрын
Having owned a 2020 2.7 ecoboost f150, powerstroke was pointless Imo I could get 9.5L/100km on the highway at 110. I way overloaded it (11k ish pounds of dump trailer and skidsteer). Honestly was better to tow with then 2001-2006 dmax Zero issues. Only problem was towing heavy mpg was bad, as to be expected. But boy howdy did it have the jam, especially with a tune. I dont like Fords much, but the 2.7 with 10 speed is a HELL of a combo. And as far as I am aware, those engines have essentially zero major issues.
@jasonbrushett2005 9 ай бұрын
The 2.7 is a winner! The little engine that could!!! My next engine choice hands down
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, the 2.7L ecoboost is a fantastic option for someone looking for some decent fuel economy yet can still tow a load up the road if you need it too. It's cheaper, more reliable and better on fuel then the 3L powerstroke.
@jasonbrushett2005 9 ай бұрын
@TheGettyAdventures I had one in my 15' .Currently in a 19' with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I will go back to the 2.7 in my next F150. Both of these are stellar engines but the 2.7 wins 🏆 for the fuel economy
@ardyarco5221 9 ай бұрын
The Reason Why Ford continues to use the cp4 is better emissions and power. The cp4 makes more pressure which makes a finer mist the in combustion chamber which equals better emissions and more power. It’s a shame that there just not that reliable.
@CodyShell 9 ай бұрын
ive never hever heard of this engine?!
@dandable 9 ай бұрын
Did you mean “under square” vs “over square”? Under square Diesel engines like the Cummins 5.9 snd really most inline six diesel engines are under square engines leading to lower-end grunt.
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Yes undersquare, I probably said the wrong thing but yes the stroke on the 3L powerstroke is larger then the bore giving it great torque generation like your traditional 5.9
@michaeldavis8259 2 ай бұрын
My F-150 2018 XLT with the 3.0 gets 29 to 32 mpg.
@preyforcougars3601 4 ай бұрын
Great video! However, I’d like to add that Ford failing to sell many 3.0 powerstrokes was *mostly* their fault. Seriously ask yourself, have you ever seen a single commercial from Ford advertising the 3.0 diesel?.. we always saw ads for the eco boost. But what about that little diesel? Ford failed to sell them because they had NO marketing in any form for the engine option. Couple that with locking the option behind expensive luxury trims for half the time it was offered and you’re going to have a lack in sales. Most people *even within Ford dealers* don’t know they exist. That’s 100% Fords fault.
@slocavky 9 ай бұрын
I have heard that the 3.0 in the GM trucks is a European designed engine as well. Not 100 percent sure though. And I sure would love to delete my LM2 but Merica....
@oldkaboom7745 8 ай бұрын
Easy: it was locked to the highest trim levels, so it was easily out-performed by a gas-engine XLT 3/4 ton in the same price-range.
@kyles234 3 ай бұрын
Maybe having to remove the engine to repair minor things was another problem
@henryford2736 8 ай бұрын
I have '18 F-150 Platinum 3.0 Powerstroke with 122k miles and never had any issues. Emissions or otherwise. Only buying bulk DEF at truck stops and only use genuine Ford Motorcraft oil. Yes Ford recommends to replace the timing belt at 150K miles cost $2 to 3k. Disagree with you on deleting the emissions. First the engine has 100K miles warranty and second if you ever have to go to Ford dealership they have to by law put emissions back to factory. Plus you will find it impossible to sell deleted truck. I traded in 3.5L Ecoboost and never looked back. Love the 3.0 Powerstroke..
@georgesipple1356 6 ай бұрын
Dealers are so hungry they will never kick out a deleted truck. My Ford dealer loves deletes. As far as selling them you will be hard pressed to find a 2011-2015 super duty on marketplace that has not been deleted.
@gebertg 9 ай бұрын
It's illegal everywhere is the US regardless of local registration requirements.
@janfswedane 7 ай бұрын
Nice to see the Swedish HIAB crane behind you. The 3.0 EcoDiesel used by RAM in their pickups was originally developed by VM Motori for use in Euro spec Cadillacs when GM owned FIAT (which they later dumped in Sergios lap for almost nothing and gave him a healthy lump sum along with it.. )
@AussieDazza 9 ай бұрын
It is still used in the Ford Ranger in other parts of the world.
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting. would be a great engine in that light truck.
@AussieDazza 9 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures In Australia it comes out with 184 KW power and 600 nm torque .
@TexasNationalist1836 3 ай бұрын
Why tf would they only make it available for the top tier ford trucks that defeats the whole purpose of diesel’s being work trucks because you know people with platinum lariat or king each ain’t gonna do any work towing
@craigallbee3284 9 ай бұрын
What year is your power wagon? Is it diesel?
@RedEemblem 9 ай бұрын
It's a 6.4 gasser
@craigallbee3284 9 ай бұрын
Bummer. Wouldn't it be nice to have that same setup but with a Cummins?
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
It's a 2022, the powerwagons can only come with the 6.4L for a number of reasons.
@99Xeno 9 ай бұрын
@@craigallbee3284it doesnt come with a cummins mainly because its alot heavier then the hemi and makes it heavier and harder to have the flexible offroad suspension. With that said, ram just realsed this year the 2500 rebel which is a power wagon that comes with a cummnns. Has slightlyless offroad capibility then the power wagon, but if you want an offroad diesel, it will get the job done.
@SurelyYewJest 9 ай бұрын
Yep. Power Wagons are intended for more off-road use than typical 3/4- or 1-ton 4x4 HD trucks. A Ram 2500 with the 6.4 is already heavy enough. Adding the Cummins would increase the weight probably 1200-1400 lbs, which directly translates to how fast the truck will get stuck in said off-road conditions.
@BobNob1 9 ай бұрын
did ford have a 1000 hp diesel
@josipdolic6391 9 ай бұрын
You tube channel “army property “ owned f150 diesel and power boost and eventually got rid of power boost bc diesel was awesome on fuel….according to him
@rickschwartz2447 9 ай бұрын
I had both Ecoboost engines great engines till you tow your gas mileage sucks that is why I got the 2023 chevy 3.0 mileage is great towing
@colbiecolbie6979 9 ай бұрын
So your really an after treatment repairman versus being a heavy duty diesel mechanic? Lol. Just kidding, great stuff.
@ohaggdah 9 ай бұрын
According to some pro-diesel mechanics I've talked to, the 3.0 Powerstroke was such a piece of shit that you should just run away from it. Can't remember exactly the reasons as it's been a couple years, but I think it had to do with the timing belt, and possible the CP4. Anyway - who knows, and I have no personal experience with it. But according to them one should stay away from it.
@borandell9915 8 ай бұрын
I think it is about how it is driven and cared for. I have 66k miles on mine. Runs great. Change oil and fuel filters often.
@bigjcmoney890 9 ай бұрын
Duramax! 3.0l best engin
@panthermartin7784 9 ай бұрын
Thank Christ, its a real pile of shit to work on, love the Pwag too, course the balljoints were nfg at 19,000kms and the 6.4L needs 16 plugs just to run but great hunting rig, bring jerry cans.
@CarringtonHollister 14 күн бұрын
DuraMax is an Izuzu based engine
@garden0fstone736 4 ай бұрын
Seems only Mercedes can pull off a good 3.0 turbo diesel
@edwardpate6128 9 ай бұрын
I think you are confusing oversquare and undersquare engine designs.
@FooTude 3 ай бұрын
Why again is there a Dodge in the video?
@adambatchelder4121 9 ай бұрын
I have no interest in new diesel engines now that the fuel is significantly more than gas and emissions
@markcarraway879 9 ай бұрын
Question? Doesn't the Duramax 3.0 require transmission/transfer case removal, and REAR timing cover removal for 100k mile internal belt service? That does not sound very heavy duty to me. Light duty diesel's up front cost, extremely expensive maintenance, low mileage service life.... to save a few bucks in fuel costs? Does not add up to me. I can replace a gas engine for the cost of a diesel fuel system when that pump fails and contaminates the entire fuel system. I know when a customer puts DEF in a 6.7 diesel fuel tank, because they are glued to their stupid f...ng phone and do not pay attention...that is a $10,000 mistake here in Texas that is VERY common. I own a 2017 F350 Powerstroke to pull a 40ft travel trailer. EVERY other vehicle I own is GASOLINE. Diesels are ridiculous to own and maintain. It is not like you get 1,000,000 miles out of them like a tractor big rig. I am a Ford Senior Master technician that owns a diesel for pulling a specific major load that gas will not do. Otherwise you could not give me a diesel for normal driving. The maintenance alone will eat you out of house and home. 13 qt oil changes, two fuel filters every 15k miles, crankcase filter, air filters... Unless you NEED a diesel, I say stay away.
@brucepeabody6644 9 ай бұрын
GM says the internal oil drive belt is good for 200k miles. I have a 2022 chevy with the 3L duarmax, great engine, i average 30mpg. Not a bit worried about something that has to be changed at 200k mikes
@midas7934 9 ай бұрын
Used to be 150k miles, they updated to 200k miles, but supposedly the transmission is relatively easy to remove in these trucks to get to the oil pump belt. Its only 7qts of oil per change, so not that bad, but it wants you to use dexosD oil which isnt common to find in much stores, i gotta go to the dealership or amazon to get it. Ive had to change it quite a bit, 1/2 year and 7k miles and had to do 4 oil changes so far, not sure if its because its a new engine it tells me to change the oil but it seems to go longer each time. I do love it though, good amount of torque, like it better than my gas truck, sips fuel. I wanted a HD diesel but the amount of fluids it uses and the maintenance scared me off, the 3.0 duramax is best of both worlds for me
@brucepeabody6644 9 ай бұрын
@@midas7934 I agree, its best of both worlds for me as well. That seems like a lot of oil changes. I have 6200 miles on mine and have only changed oil once. I changed it at 5000 miles and still had 39% oil life left.
@midas7934 9 ай бұрын
@@brucepeabody6644 thinking about it, it may be because i live on an island, we dont have those long flat stretches of interstates that go on for hundreds or thousands of miles like in the mainland, its the size of a large city, going from home to work is going up and down hills, and stop and go, to get across the island one way is about 100 miles but the shortest path is going up between 2 mountains and back down. Engines seem to like long hauls at a more or less constant rpm, especially diesels, my driving conditions are probably less ideal than what you folks have in the mainland and may be worse on my engine and oil so maybe thats why i had to change oil more often
@brucepeabody6644 9 ай бұрын
@@midas7934 you are probably right on your driving conditions. I live in Michigan where it is fairly flat, at least where i live and mostly drive. I do love my truck with the 3L duramax and would buy another one .
@damondavis842 9 ай бұрын
So the diesel emissions is an American thing only ?
@robedmund9948 9 ай бұрын
GMC/Cheverolet hit it out of the park with their in-line 6 diesel. Powerful. Quiet. Fuel efficient. Ford just couldn't compete so they quit!! 😮
@ML-lg4ky 9 ай бұрын
It wanted people to buy the lighting or hybrid instead
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Yes the powerboost seemed to gather more attention.
@borandell9915 8 ай бұрын
Bingo. I heard that directly from Ford. They had to kill a motor option to make room for the Lightning, and the Little Lion was gone. And the lightning has turned out to be a joke.
@sly9263 9 ай бұрын
Don't worry, GM will cancel theirs too but they're always 5-10 years late on necessary change.
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Haha well I actually really like the 3L from GM. If it can stay reliable I don't see why they would want to pull it.
@newrenewableenergycontrol5724 9 ай бұрын
Found On Road Dead
@pasolesoup7430 6 ай бұрын
Only tow 11k pounds!!!
@HighCountryRambler 9 ай бұрын
No bias here... LOL I'd buy a Ram truck but I have to use it for pulling a 35' @15000 lbs fifth wheel. I need my rear axle under my truck not torn off laying on the side of the road. I'll stick with my F350 7.3 Powerstroke that pulls just fine over 12000' passes. Also have 3.5 EcoBoost F150 that screams, so why do I need a restricted diesel in a little half ton? I truly believe the leftest environmentalists running the EPA today have the new diesels so restricted with unobtainable emissions rules they are no longer technically able to produce what truck buyers need, unless you get into commercial applications.
@Lq32332 9 ай бұрын
I’d buy a Ford but I need a truck to not be in the shop every other week. 😂
@raziqafg 9 ай бұрын
The whole Ford lineup should be canceled. They should pack up shop and let someone who knows how to build reliable power train take over. Everyone will thank them.
@thejosh0100 9 ай бұрын
American manufucters with European diesel engines meanwhile Nissan cant sell any 5.0l Cummins titans
@EmilyChuu 9 ай бұрын
Do you think the titan with the Cummins is worth it in your opinion?
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
lol that is another video for another day!
@TheGettyAdventures 9 ай бұрын
No I don't think the cummins Titan is worth it. for that much money It doesn't make much sense to me. probably a really cool truck either way.
@EmilyChuu 9 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures Only Nissan I ever liked was the 06 and up Pathfinders, they where built like tanks and atleast in my ownership was super reliable, didn’t feel dated, and was just the right size for an SUV. Now the pathfinder is a crossover. Nissan would probably make good money bringing back the smaller frontier (I loved my 02) with a small diesel engine for journeymen. Better yet I wish we saw more SUVs with diesel options like the awesome 7.3 in the Excursion
@d.williams6891 9 ай бұрын
@@EmilyChuu If you delete the emission equipment I’m sure it’s a good truck. I’ve seen nothing but bad things about that true strictly due to the emissions equipment failing and making it non driveable.
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