if you're in the market for a max cushioned shoe you are already looking in that upper price bracket - perhaps $170 isn't too much? After all you are going to get a LOT of (isn't the phrase "A TON OF MILES") wear out of the shoe - much more so than a high priced road shoe especially the carbon plated "wonder shoes" that are so much the fashion ... so yeah - Hey mate hope you have the Inov8 G 270 in your rotation - highly recommend it!

Just picked up another 3.5 for a bargain, will go for this after for sure.

I was hoping to see a timp 2 review, are we ever gonna get one?

Jake Vandecar kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hK-eaNyhu62xcZ8.html

@@TheGingerRunner Awesome, thanks for the link! Idk why it didnt pop up when i searched for it.

3 years later, I find these for 90$ which is a steal in my country, either that or 235$ for topo shoes lol

Totally agree and wish I could find a size 12 of the 3.5!

It's the same amount of cushion. It's just a bit of a different shape under the forefoot.

the 2.5 has 36mm! i think that was the most they’ve ever done.

That is a SCREAMIN deal!

take a look at the Inov8 G 270 ... best trail shoe of the year (maybe ever) - zero drop wide toebox "more minimal" Good luck!

gosekinz I’m looking hard at the G 270.

Stinson? The evo mafate 2 is hokas 100 miler vibram grip trail shoe. I have it. U cant compare any altra shoe to that mate... altra shoes r shit on technical terrain - they r too loose in forefoot which makes u glide and feel insecure on steep downhill. They can for same reason cause blisters on toes unless u over strengthing laces which is also uncomfortable. The altra shoe i had was too soft, and it lost any dampening after 50 miles - tried to return them! 0mm drop cause enormous stress on calves - 3 to 4 mm is min. For shoes that r comfortable. Dont buy the barefoot hype. These r too loose, to swampy, dont last, cant use in technical terrain. Buy hoka or salomon or maybe innov 8? Stop hyping shoes which in reality dont work in terrain, give u blisters, destroys u calves.

TheVikingquest I was just making what I thought was a humorous observation on price point. Not saying one shoe is better than another. Everyone’s feet are different, sounds like you tried a pair of Altra’s and they didn’t work out for you, they may work for others. That said, your point on the Mafate makes my observation stand. Mafate = max cushion trail with Vibram megagrip $170. If people want a max cushion shoe and for the brand to slap that name brand outsole on it the price usually will be around that mark :)

@@machonacho2197 hey, didnt mean too sound so harsch! I guess i was so annoyed still by throwing a pair of almost new 140 dollar trail shoes in the trash after 50 miles... my, and many others opinion that i both read and saw on altra is that the ego midsole isnt durable, their own none vibram rubber is dangerously slippry in on wet rocks and roots (i took one hard fall on them) and loose their dampeninh really quick. I read of some ultra runners who runs 100 miles in them and then have to toss them as they r hard as nails! As u said some might find these to fit, but u have to have extremely wide feet for them and still they dobt work well downhill running... So again, dont waste u money on a low quality, albeit interistung shoe - its still faulty for 95% of runners. When something sucks u should speak out. The store i bought them in was gonna send them to usa! even though Every video and/or review on these, not sponsored, speaks of how badly the ego midsole lasts. They should be pulled from market unless revised. Yes, it also makes me annoyed that so many opions on youtube in the end r just sponsor plugs, or done with some strange commitment - like keep the shoes, but give us an 90% honest review that seems ernest - like this one. Dont buy. Easy. No video needed - no payment transmitted.

@Jeff Johanson yeah. I have half a size up too to get some more room. With that said, for racing, who really wants altra toebox? They felt insecure, slippery and unconnected. I got blisters in front if toes. I still cant recommend anyone byuing altras. I have a new salomon pro 4, just bought on sale. Its even more cramped spacewise, but still they r brutally trustworthy in forest, more stabile then mafate. But i run a half marathon (2.30 to 3 hours technical elevation) every other week in mafate - my feet never hurt, my knees feel fine every time. I do understand why this is the most used 100 mile shoe...

@@TheVikingquest feet are different though. I ran a 75 k in my first altras (timp 1.5) had a great result with zero pain and no blisters. Altras feel like they are made for my feet and when i try my old hokas nikes and solomons now they are way to narrow and that explains why i had so much pain when racing in those. Even the clifton 6 wide is a little bit to snug. I think in the long run altras are truly the best, for me. But with the superior for example, i know what you mean with the downhill aspect.

Danny Pimienta What was your last Altra? All the newest versions are of drastically better quality.

I read your mind!

Yeah this happened to me after wearing for 18 miles. I was mountain scrambling and my foot slipped down between two rocks. Luckily it diddent tear but a severe scuff (prob 1/3 of the way through the fabric). However I had gone on a 10 mile moderate trail run the day before with no issues. I think if the terrain is such that you will need scrapping the sides often, they won't last long. However if its technical terrain that mainly hits just the soles you are good to go. Something like the Speedgoat would be great in that mountainous environment because the upper is tough and reinforced but then your toes are going to get squished. I think Altra are afraid of too much rigidity which goes against the while ethos of a comfortable foot

I’ve just bought a pair on line from a company in Alberta called Skiuphill. They have a discounted price and free shipping. Got the sent to British Columbia. Arrived by UPS in 4 days. The only place in Canada I could find them. They also sell a lot of Inov-8. I’ve bought from them before. Good personal service. I’m going to use them for long distance hiking to replace my Timps.

Same and wish I could get a size 12 in the 3.5!

How you like the olympus 4 shoe compared to SG4? I really like the SG4 but cant buy them anymore in my size so im thinking olympus 4. SG5 has bad reviews.

@@nosehair3717 Actually my Olympus 4 is entering retirement after 800km and it's still very comfortable. I've got the SG5 and the megagrip is already wearing down after 50km, sadly.... determined its a racing shoe not your typical everyday shoe.

Topo has been in my experience more consistent between generations of wide toe box shoes. Though they tend to be firm.

The 3.5 is still a great shoe!

@@TheGingerRunner Word. Also want to check out the Timp 2.0 as well.

I feel they run a bit smaller..at least they do compared to my Superiors 4.0

Should I size up or down buying the 4.0's?

Bobay Deniz down size

Thanks for the reply!