I bought the Olympus 4s the moment they came in stock for hiking absolutely loved them... For work (Landscaping/commercial maintenance) I wore Targhee 3s in late spring I started having knee pain when my days were spent working in shopping centers walking on asphalt all day so I started wearing the Olympus 4s on days I knew I would be work on asphalt and they solved the pain and held up better than expected with heavy asphalt use... now I have a different pair for work/hiking and just daily wear they are amazing shoes really hope Altra sticks with this design only change I would make is the sole like you said needs to be full vibram.. thanks for the videos
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is impressive! I'm surprised they have held up through all of that! Thanks for sharing! More vibram Altra!!
@rhondagoldberg8419 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review which randomly came up in my feed. I'm wearing the Lone Peak 4, which has been very comfortable after breaking my 5th metatarsal. I've yearned for more padding and based on your review, I'm going to buy the Olympus 5. Keep those reviews coming. 👍👍 I also subscribed!
@jasonwish- Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rhonda! I hope the Altra 5's treat you well! I bought 3 pairs of the 4's when they were on sale before they ran out of them. Also, consider the Topo Athletic Ultraventure 3's, they are my new favorite shoe for 2023, very similar fit and feel of the olympus shoes but even better fit in my opinion. Hike on!
@BobPritchard3 жыл бұрын
Thru hiked the AT with Lone Peaks, Merrills, Hoka's and several others. My feet were incredibly sore for much of the trip. I've since discovered the Olympus and have much less foot pain. I do think they lose a bit in efficiency because of the cushioning, but if you are going long, then I think it's a great choice. I agree on the quality as well , every one of my Lone Peak's have had a peeling toe cap within a few days of wearing them, but on 2 pairs of Olympus, the cap hasn't budged. One last thing, I found the sizes inconsistent between the Olympus and Lone Peak. With the Olympus I've sized down 1/2 shoe size for an equivalent fit, so it might make sense to buy your first pair in a store vs online. I will be wearing the Olympus on my PCT SOBO attempt this year.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear the Olympus has treated you well! Sounds like you have plenty of experience and I totally agree with everything you said here. Good luck on the PCT!
@nathanielbenoy38973 жыл бұрын
My buddy and I both bought a pair of these about a month or so ago after seeing them in your videos. I was hesitant because of the price but I instantly loved them. Only have 40ish miles in them but I have no regrets! Thanks for the info and great videos!
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are way over priced...should be around $140 tops. Hopefully they will treat your feet as well as they have mine!
2 жыл бұрын
It's fun to see the shoes after such a long run. They are not cheap, and such reviews confirm that it is worth investing in this type of shoes.
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
I was able to get 800 miles on my second pair before they started falling apart and closing in on 500 miles with my third pair and they are just now starting to come apart in a few spots, but they were exposed to a 350 mile FKT as well.
@owee08063 жыл бұрын
Currently in lone peak 5s. Did a 20 miler in them and my feet were shot. Definitely will consider these. Thanks for the awesome review!
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
The same thing happened to me...so glad I found the Olympus. Whatever shoe you decide to go with I hope they treat your feet well, thanks!
@johneason65403 жыл бұрын
I agree 💯 alltra 4.0 I have a pair, only 100 miles so far. They are amazing. Like you said, right out of the box. Very light weight also
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Yep...I'm ready for my second pair. After about 500 miles I am finally getting several nice size rips in the mesh.
@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a pair. I had the 3.0 and then the 3.5. So, I’m excited to move into the 4.0. Great review Jason. All the best, Crow✌️
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Crow! I’m on my second pair of fours now and they are by far my favorite shoe that Altras make, I hope these treat you well!
@JourneyontheTrail3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review Jason. I'm currently rockin' LP 4.5s from last season. I love the foot box but I've been suffering from foot pain that I normally don't have. I've been looking at Topos and Saucony but I'm probably going to pick up some Olympus to try. Thanks again bud!
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I just wish they weren't so darn expensive....$170 is way overpriced. I am also very curious about the Topo's, can't wait to get my hands on a pair of Ultraventure Pros. Thanks AJ!
@BriansFarmingVideos3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason been considering these for a while for trail. Just bought the Paradigm 5 for working on concrete and they are awesome
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Glad they are working out for you. I’ve never tried a pair of those on before I will have to check them out sometime. Thanks Brian.
@WorldviewOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Liked the comments. A guy on youtube named Darwin talks about them alot. I'm considering getting a pair for some trail running and longer hikes this year. Looking to redo the Sheltowee and good chunks of the Buckeye trail this year. Also hoping to chase after the Knobstone FKT this year as well.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Darwin is who got me thinking about them shoes in the first place. I have no interest in the Buckeye Trail...too much road for me. But I am interested in the Knobstone FKT. I really liked that trail when I did it a few years ago. I didn’t realize it didn’t have an unsupported FKT. I see only supported.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Any goals set for the knobstone? If I were to attempt it right now I’m pretty confident I could complete it in around 13-14 hours unsupported depending on whether it’s 48 or 50 miles.
@WorldviewOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- We’ll see when the weather breaks we got cold weather coming here in the tristate either way i’ll be pushing for unsupported times i’ve hiked the trails before
@HooksandHammocks3 жыл бұрын
It is about time for Tellie and i to get some new shoes and we will be checking these out. Thanks for Sharing!
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
If you like Altra's and want a little more cushion, then you can't go wrong with the Olympus!
@cttaylor012 жыл бұрын
Subscribed just based on your interests! We love our garden and love backpacking! I think Im buying a pair of Olympus today, depending how they feel. My Timps 2.0 fell apart on me in under 200 miles, was not pleased.
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks! I did not like the Timp 2's they were very tight on top of my midfoot and the 3's were ok but still not as comfortable as my first three pairs of Olympus 4's or the Timp 1.5's. On my fourth pair of Olympus 4's I had some heel slippage that I had never previously experienced so I sent them back and got the Lone Peak 6's and the heel lock was amazing! I still plan to purchase Olympus again but waiting for the next version and just using the LP 6 for now as well as the Topo Ultraventure 2's for running.
@cttaylor012 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- REI is selling the Loan Peak 4s for 50% off, $65 shipped, so I couldn't turn down that deal. I haven't tried Loan Peaks and think I'll like them compared to my worn out Timps. I guess REI is getting rid of the old gen.
@cgriggsiv3 жыл бұрын
Jason those shoes definitely do look quite comfy Excellent review Have a good night great video
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Thanks CG! Like walkin on a cloud!
@mcgriffiths3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason! I just recently came across your channel, and I can't stop watching your videos! Been binge-watching your kayak trips with the Colonel, and now I want to do some kayaking as well, LOL. Seriously though, you have some excellent content here, and I'm glad I found your site! Keep up the fantastic vlogs!
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Mike! It’s comments like these that continues to give me the motivation to want to film my adventures and create content for KZfaq. Hope you’re able to get out and do some kayaking this summer!
@mcgriffiths3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- You are so welcome! Have you ever had any cryptid encounters on any of your backpacking or camping expeditions? That was wild when you and the Colonel had the rocks thrown at you on the kayak trip.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
@@mcgriffiths I did encounter a very similar sound, of rocks being thrown at me, two other times while on trail. Once on the Quehanna Trail in PA and another time on the Sheltowee Trace while walking around Lake Laurel. Both times were about 5:30 am.
@mcgriffiths3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- Wow...glad you made it out of there okay. Thanks, and looking forward to many more videos!
@benhikescamps2 ай бұрын
Very good review thanks. Now the Olympus 5 is out, would you still rate the 4. I’m in the UK and the Olympus 4 is a fair bit cheaper than the 5 so was thinking about getting them to save some money.
@jasonwish-2 ай бұрын
I actually bought a pair of Olympus 5's when they came out last year and they slipped on my heal a little so I sent them back and ordered three pairs of 4's when the price dropped and still wearing two of them to this day...love the 4's!
@jameslisterman3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a pair and taking them on the PCT in two weeks
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Great, hope they treat your feet well! I just received my second pair, I ended up getting about 550 miles out of them before they started getting ripped and torn all around the mesh.
@OldPackMule3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I found the same. Keep the Olympus for multi day and the Lone Peak for day hikes.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
It's the perfect combo!
@Smokeybeesnatural3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget, you can readjust the soles by melting them by the fire! 😁 definitely will consider them when it's time for new shoes, since I have similar foot issues.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Lol, that is definitely another one of the amazing qualities of the Olympus! I do plan to try the Topo Ultraventure pros at some point....don't want to put all my "eggs in one basket"
@lifthearth3 жыл бұрын
These maximum shoes might be leading to more problems long term. The body was designed to do the work that these shoes are doing so it may be weakening the body’s purpose. I was an avid Altra wearer and had knee, back and ankle issues. I have since transition to minimalist runners and all those problems have disappeared. Proceed with caution though, because the transition needs to be taken slowly.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I agree completely with what you’re saying and that is exactly why I do not wear any high arch inserts because the planter fascia was designed to absorb the work of the foot. This is also why I like the zero drop. I feel like the lone peaks are very minimalist With how thin the stack height is but sharp rocks would hurt my feet from time to time and they seem to be a little bone jarring trying to jog in them. So I guess what I’m saying is having a zero drop is a more natural approach like being barefooted But having some extra cushion under there protect your feet and allows me to do higher miles Without as much foot soreness at the end of the day.
@randygonzalez57583 жыл бұрын
Is it feasible to use minimalist runners on long distance hikes tho? I have Altra Lone Peak and the bottoms of my feet are in tremendous amt of pain after 20+ miles with high elevation gain
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
@@randygonzalez5758 It seems some people can handle it but you better have well conditioned feet by training a lot and doing foot strengthening exercises to get them ready for high mileage.
@JoeZUGOOLA3 жыл бұрын
@@randygonzalez5758 imagine if your feet didn't hurt after 20 miles up hill you drip!😂
@Mtnmanmike622 жыл бұрын
I've put thousands of miles on Altra Olympus shoes. They had some durability issues years ago, but now they are durable and dependable. Like most of the max cushion shoes, the soles last longer than the cushioning. The shoes do, however last twice as long as hokas.
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear that someone other than me has good luck with the Olympus! After three pairs I took a break from them to try out the Topo Ultraventure two's for running and the LP 6's for backpacking but I will be going back to the Olypmpus for my next long trip or FKT.
@kaikart1232 жыл бұрын
Very nice to hear that, because I could get Speedgoat 4 for half the price of Olympus 4 right now.
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to like The speed goats but they crush my toes... why can’t they make a foot shaped toebox like Altra!
@kaikart1232 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- Don't they have the wide version?
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
@@kaikart123 the problem with the wide version is that my feet are not wide, actually they are pretty narrow, but my toes have grown accustomed to the wide, natural, foot shaped toe box of the Altra's over the years and every other shoe out there feels constrictive to me now.
@jonsanford25153 жыл бұрын
Topo ultraventure is similar, but corrects most of the things you list as cons. I switched from Timps to Topo last summer and have a few hundred miles. They’ve become my every day shoe. They are a little firmer feeling, full vibram sole, and still have the wide toe box. They do have a small drop though. 30mm heel and 25mm toe.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I have come very close to purchasing a pair of those but decided to wait on the pro version. I’m very curious how my feet will react to high miles with the Topo shoes, especially running on the road. Thanks Jon!
@jonsanford25153 жыл бұрын
Visually, topos toe box doesn’t appear to be as wide as Altra, but I’ve never touched the sides. Topo isn’t the most attractive shoe, but they are very comfortable, and seem much more durable than the Lone Peaks or Timps.
@KathysOutdoorAdventures3 жыл бұрын
Great review Jason! I never knew how important your shoes are until I got serious about my hiking and saving my feet! I wonder if the women’s are just as nice as the men’s.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I started off in waterproof Keen boots and was always wondering why my feet were sweating so bad....I could barely do 8-10 miles. As far as the womens version, that is a good question...sorry I can't help you with that one. Thanks Kathy!
@billysherlin65893 жыл бұрын
I have been looking at switching from boots to trail runners. Tried once before with some Topo Terraventures, but wasn't happy with them. I have been looking at some Lone Peak 4.5 on sale at REI for 90 bucks. I have also looked at the Olympus 4, just hate to spend that kind of money and not like them. Great review, now I have a decision to make.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
For $90 I would definitely give them a try! If I never had heal pain I would be sticking to the LP exclusively.
@cjjams79302 жыл бұрын
I got the superior 5 Altra today they seem to be a little less thick but I'm loving them so far
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I have never tried the superiors mainly because they look very similar to the Lone peaks and they are just a little too thin for me for high mileage days.
@cjjams79302 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- that makes sense....I eventually wanna go for some vivo trail shoes
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
@@cjjams7930 do you mean VJ shoes? I was going to get a pair but after seeing how short the tougne is I decided to stick with Topo Ultraventure 2's....love these shoes for running.
@cjjams79302 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- vivobarefoot
@movemorenowjames3 жыл бұрын
Hi, huge fan of Altra and especially the Olympus… I use they for mainly trail running … been using the whole collection for about 2 years . Agree with you that 33mm midsole is awesome and still gives good stability abs ground feel. Have done mainly reviews on my channel. Subbed 👍
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to checking out your channel. Thanks!
@movemorenowjames3 жыл бұрын
My Olympus did start break up around 400 of running … quickly got a new pair and did an interesting comparison to the new vs old midsole feel.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to the next version, hopefully they don't screw with it too much. Some think they are too clunky of a shoe but I don't think so. If the LP had the stack of the Timp and had a little more structure I think I would love it.
@RubberMeetsTheRoad3 жыл бұрын
Great review Jason.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I like your channel name, my wife and I are getting ready to go on our first RV adventure of 2021 to the beaches of South Carolina!
@RubberMeetsTheRoad3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- Thanks! You will definitely enjoy your RV adventure it's always a good time. Safe Travels...
@rmkchan3 жыл бұрын
Very Good review. Thank you. During rainy days, have you tried to pair Olympus 4 with waterproof socks such as Sealskinz? Many thanks
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I have not. If I did much hiking in the winter time with slush and snow I would definitely try it but during the other three seasons if my feet get wet I would rather have my darn tough socks on and just allow things to air dry while I walked. Thanks Ronald!
@rmkchan3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- Thanks your reply. I will try Darn tough! cheers
@pgreenx3 жыл бұрын
I think a soft midsole shoe like this is great for a PCT type trail. When it comes to north east rocks and roots, lone peaks all the way for me.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t disagree with that. I would probably do the same thing. I used my LP 4.5’s in the Adirondack High Peaks wilderness and they did great. For big mile days over 25 it’s hard to beat the comfort of the Olympus though
@samiam3692 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- Is this because the lone peaks give you more trail feel, thus reducing the chance of an ankle roll?
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
@@samiam369 I only rolled my ankel once or twice in over 3000 miles with four pairs of Olympus 4's. But you do feel more connected to the trail in LP's over Olympus for sure but my feet just get too sore in Altra's after long mileage days. I'm more into ultra running now and the Topo's have treated my feet very well.
@samiam3692 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- thanks for the info & fast reply!!
@timurhant4693 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason. Too thick for me but I will definetly give it a try.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
For me personally I find that the thickness is just right especially after a 20-35 mile day. If only putting in 10-15 miles a day the lower stack height of the Lone Peaks would probably be fine.
@timurhant4693 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- ;))) Most of my shoes are only 6mm thick so we have a different perception :) I dodn't order the lone peak because it was too thick. That said, my typical range is max 20km. All my daily shoes are 6mm stack hight
@BackcountryPilgrim3 жыл бұрын
I tried the previous model when I was first looking into Altras and I felt like I was on a wrestling mat haha. I feel like they'd rock for cruising but I thought I'd feel the way you described at first on trail haha, maybe I need to try the 4's. I dont like the Timp soles, so the Vibram interests me. Sounds like my Topo MTN Racers....hmmmm.... Thanks Jason!
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hated the Timp soles as well. Its funny how some love the LP 4.5's and some hate them. They fit me like a glove and if they didn't make the bottom of my feet hurt after a 35 mile day I would wear them exclusively....the 4's were just too sloppy and squishy feeling to me. The Olympus is certainly a great cruising shoe, but I am VERY curious about the Topo Ultraventure Pros....can't to get my feet into a pair of those! Thanks Doug!
@amyanth3452 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I knew I recognized your face. I have seen you and your awesome produce at the farmer's market in Worthington!! I am ditching my usual Merrill hiking show since it is just too narrow for my forefoot. Now trying to decide what Altra to buy for hiking (no running at all) and could not decide but was leaning toward the Olympus. I tried he 4s and the 5s on and honestly don't care too much for the heel tab on the 5s amd the body of the 5s feel more snug than the 4s. Almost like I need to go up a half size. Seems I can probably wear a true size in the 4s. Have you now tried the Olympus 5 and if so, do you have any feedback?
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
I went through three pairs of Olympus fours and set several speed records with them on trails (FKT’s), But I have since switched to the Topo Athletic Ultraventure 2’s. I also tried to the Olympus fives And probably needed to size up a half size as well. I ended up sending them back because I just don’t feel like they lock in around my feet as good as the topo’s. I will probably get another pair of fours just to have on hand. The problem with Topo is that there’s no one that really carries them in Ohio so you have to order online. They have a fairly wide toebox but still not as wide as Altra. Worthington is an awesome market, our best one out of 7 we attend. Thanks!
@ScottMoyse2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out the foam part of the outsole, I hadn't noticed that on the pair I have here (I'm still deciding if I want to return them or not)... that's pretty stupid of them. It looks like exactly the same foam as the midsole. Looking where they have positioned it, if you are running with good form and landing on the midfoot, that would get hammered and very quickly not offer up much grip on foot placement.
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that foam wears down way to fast but I still can’t find a shoe that allows me to put down multiple 30+ mile days without getting sore feet and toes. My fourth pair slipped on my heal a bit so I sent them back and got lone peak 6’s and they are so comfortable and roomy for my toes but I get sore feet muscles at about 15 miles each day I hike with them. I still plan on trying Olympus’s again. The Topo shoes just don’t have a roomy enough toe box for me and neither do Hokas.
@ScottMoyse2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- thanks for the additional info. More to think about. My worry with the Topo MNTN Racer 2's is the material in front of the forwardmost lace holes is quite stiff and feels like it's putting pressure on the top of my foot behind my big toes. I've been running in Saucony Peregrine ISOs for 3 years, so the Topo's toebox feels luxurious to me 🤣.
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t tried those yet. I have the Ultraventure 2’s.
@grankvarsvik41533 жыл бұрын
Also love these, but quality seems to be a dealbreaker. Both me and some acquaitnances are seeing these failing as early as 70-150 miles. Specifically the lining strips inside the toe box comes loose, and the upper mesh develop holes and tears very quickly. What is strange is that one shoe may fail early, while the other is holding up. Of course we are getting our money back and some of the guys including myself are trying a second pair right now but this is not promising. One guy has had issues with most of his Altra shoes, the worst being Timp 3 failing before 2 miles. Thinking of trying Speedgoat 4 Wide next for the long hauls. We mostly run the mountains and stress on the shoes may be high, but most other shoes hold up well. So there is big difference, not in favor of Altra.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Wow I can’t believe how quickly those shoes have been falling apart for you. I am currently on my second pair of Olympus and have around 300 miles on them and they still look almost brand new but I’m not running through the mountains. I tried the speed goats on and it felt like they were crushing my toes. Still interested in trying out topo’s too. I still wear my original Olympus around the farm but they are completely shredded so I do realize they have quality issues, after 500 miles they were completely done. Also have some interest in the Invo brand. I just about bought a pair of the G270s but I think the stack height is too thin for me.
@swoz_3 жыл бұрын
My Olympus 4's have MANY large holes in the mesh where the shoe creases with my foot after about 250 miles of hiking. It's unfortunate, but even with those holes they are good shoes. Just wish the materials durability was better.
@grankvarsvik41533 жыл бұрын
On my second pair of Olympys 4`s, currently at 93 miles and still holding up well. At least better than the first pair and i reckon the next 60-90 miles will reveal if the upper has the usual weakness. Also got a pair of Speedgoat 4 wide, and was impressed by their cushioning. Running crazy fast downhill in those. But they are not particularly wide; I would say normal. And the toe box is not on the generous side; extremely low and big toes are pushed firmly inwards. Currently easing into long runs to see if they will work, but I am not too optimistic. Suspect they will cause blisters for me past 10-12 miles.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Currently at around 300 miles backpacking on second pair and look nearly new. Hopefully can get 500 out of them. Never had a blister yet even after many 25-30 mile days.
@alexwbanks703 жыл бұрын
Nice review! I've had the Lone Peaks, then the Timp 1.5. I loved those Timp 1.5 by far more than any other shoe I've ever worn. I bought a second pair since I loved them so much and that's what I wear only for longer hikes. Then I bought the Timp 2.0 to wear every day and for walks and day hikes. Well they changed so much from the 1.5's and hurt my feet if I wear them too long. Smaller and less room on the top. These Olympus 4.0's just look like the shape and size as the Timp 1.5. What do you think?
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Looks like you went through about the same progression as I did on the Altra shoes. I loved both pair of my Timp 1.5's but both ended up ripping where the foot/toe crease is in the material up front only after 400 miles each time. I was really looking forward to the 2.0's but I could not stand the way they felt around my mid foot, like so many others have mentioned in other reviews. I also started to notice that my toes would hit the rubber area on the Timps after long days and feel irritated. The Olympus is so much better for me in all areas....I'm not kidding, they are amazing!! Never one blister or hot spot in 400 miles and only sore feet after my FKT when I hiked 84 miles straight. I really want to try the Topo Ultraventure Pro just to see if they are better for trail/road running, but I can't imagine anything being better than the Olympus for overall comfort on and off the trail. Very durable too! Can't wait to see the next version once these wear out. I bet I'll get 700-800 miles on this pair easily if I had to guess.
@seanwilson65213 жыл бұрын
Seeing as the anecdotal evidence is showing wear at specific places in the mesh, how about a preemptive repair on the inside with some appropriate tape to help support the mesh. For $170 bucks, why not? Someone should give it a try and report back. Ok, I'll do it. Should I get a half size bigger? 10.5 usually works for me. I've never bought a pair sight unseen before, what a leap of faith.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I've always been an 11 and that's what worked for me...not sure if you want to size up or not unless you like some extra room or have wide feet already. Preemptive taping sounds like a great idea but not sure where and how one would apply it to the shoe. After 500 miles they just fell apart in too many places. My new ones have 150 miles on them as of this comment and look and feel like new still.
@seanwilson65213 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. They sure looked good at 400... I believe all of these type of lightweight shoes are done at 500. If that's what you get, then that's good enough for me. I've had shoes that looked fine after 500 but started giving foot troubles so there's that.
@kristinap6300 Жыл бұрын
My Altra Olympus felt great on my feet but they fell apart very quickly on trail , it was an expensive shoe to self destruct on the AT at 300 miles, I’m only 5 foot 2, weigh 107 and carry a 22 lb pack at heaviest, disappointing to say the least
@jasonwish- Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would typically only get about 400 miles on them before they started getting rips in them and feeling too squishy. I've moved to the Topo Ultraventure 2's and 3's...very durable and comfortable for backpacking and running.
@kristinap6300 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- mine ripped along the edge where the shoe attaches to the sole, at about 300-350 miles on the AT and I’m a tiny person with a relatively light pack disappointing, to say the least, company told me too bad, I guess I expect more for 170.00, now I buy used like new on eBay at least I get my Altras and my monies worth
@MaryannHazel3 жыл бұрын
Great review Jason! I've been wearing the Lone Peaks and Timps but have had issues with them breaking down/falling apart pretty quickly. Are you finding the Olympus to be a little more durable? Seems like 400 miles is pretty durable... I think I'm going to spring for a pair and see how they feel!
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I loved my Timp 1.5’s but they fell apart on me as well around 400 miles. My Olympus are finally starting to come apart on me around 500 miles...I think they’ve had it unfortunately. The mesh finally ripped in several places and the soft sole’s are getting too soft. I plan to get another pair if I don’t like the Topo Ultraventures.
@dasnipa823 жыл бұрын
Great review; thanks for the insight. I've been considering switching from my heavier Solomon boots to the Olympus 4s for hiking and backpacking. With my boots, I usually wear a thin liner sock with a mid-weight Darn Tough hiking sock. Would you recommend the same type of sock pairing in the Olympus, or is that too much sock in a shoe vs. boot for long days on trail?
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I don’t have any experience with sock liners so I can’t speak to that. But for me I just like wearing mid weight darn tough socks with my a altras and it’s always worked perfect. I’ve only gotten blisters once during a 350 mile FKT. Hope that helps!
@goodnatureart3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Was heading to Lone Peak 5.0 but may switch now. I'd like more cushion, was concerned about rolling.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I was considering the 5's as well...I just wish they would add a little bit to the stack height. It was the perfect amount on the Timp 1.5's. A marriage between the LP and the Timps would be the perfect shoe.
@oldunion3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, going to have to check these against the Trailventure Pros. Thanks for the review
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I really want to try a pair of the Ultraventure Pro’s for Trail running.
@barondavis56923 жыл бұрын
I have found the the 5 mm drop to be too big a difference. Deal breaker for me.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
@@barondavis5692 I would prefer a 3 mm but I think I will still give them a try.
@barondavis56923 жыл бұрын
Jason Wish - Wishwell Farms The terradveture 2 has a 3 mm drop but I think a new version is coming “soon.”
@philbio75792 жыл бұрын
I'm a long time Lone Peak wearer looking to give the Olympus a try. Did I understand correctly, you wear the same size in all your Altras?
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
Yes I do. My last pair of Olympus 4's were a little loose on my heals so I sent them back and tried the LP6's, which has an excellent heal cup fit, but I do miss the comfort of the Olympus' stack. The Timp 4 felt pretty good too when I tried them on at REI recently. I will give the Olympus another try soon, hopefully I just had a bad pair, the other four pairs where great!
@RGMDG3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I purchased a pair, arriving this Friday. Had some heel issues too, so I am looking forward to the extra comfort.. If you have 400+ miles on those, they look like they are holding up well. How many miles do you anticipate getting out of these or your trail shoes in general? Thanks again fro a great review.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert. I actually just received my second pair today. I am still wearing my old ones but they are worn out pretty bad now after about 550 miles. The mesh is ripped in numerous spots with shoe goo everywhere and the foam is super squishy now, so I would guess that 450-500 miles is about max for these shoes. I tried the Timp 3 last week and had to send them back, way too tight around the mid foot for me. Hope they work out well for you!
@RGMDG3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- 500 miles is a lot of great memories. That seems reasonable for $170 if they helped make those miles more enjoyable. I look at my time outdoors as an INVESTMENT in my physical and mental health, so anything to improve that experience is money well spent in my opinion. Thanks again Jason for the great review and reply..
@TheRCNetwork2 жыл бұрын
I felt it was too high...especially come from Lone Peaks and Timps. Cushioning is pretty decent though
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
Currently using the Topo Athletic Ultraventure 2's, similar stack to the Timps...I think its 30mm.
@samiam3692 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- Wondering how you like the ultraventure 2s? Have you done a review on them yet? I searched your channel but didn't see it if you have...I loved my lone peak 4.5 until I got plantar fasciitis bcs I didn't know they had broken down. I am prone to ankles sprains, so want as low a stack height as possible with better durability and cushioning than the lone peaks
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
@@samiam369 the topo athletic shoes are my go to shoes for 2022...I love the Ultraventure 2's. I too had PF on and off for over 3 years, never in both feet at the same time though. Since moving to Topo's my PF has completely gone away! They have numerous different styles and stack heights to choose from, I'm sure there is one you will like. I do have a first look video on them and a short hike with them and intial thoughts but not a full on review of them. I want to like Altra so bad because of the toe box but my feet get too sore from them after 25-50 mile days, especially during my FKT attempts. Here is the video link if interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7mgoc1iqbWxqmQ.html
@samiam3692 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- thank you for the awesome vid & additional information, so quickly!!
@stejoh_3 жыл бұрын
Showing a clip when rundning with trailrunning shoes on asfalt. 😂 they are great in the woods.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Most of the miles were in the woods...I have many, many videos of me wearing them in the back country, but they do great on asphalt too! 😉
@Dante07cid2 жыл бұрын
Way too much stack for me. Makes me stumble around. My favorite was the Superior with stone guards but tread was too slippery. LPs just fine for me. A lot has to do with how you hit the ground.
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
Since making this video I’ve had to completely leave Altras and have switched to topo athletic more specifically the ultra venture 2’s, I can go all day long and not get sore feet, and I’m not just talking about simple 10 to 20 mile days I’m talking 40 to 50 mile days. I assume you’re referring to running and I mainly talking about long-distance backpacking and some running.
@Dante07cid2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- Nope. I’m a backpacker. I wanted to like the Topo Ultraventure 2 but they were just way too stiff for me. Didn’t flex well. That’s why they make more than one kind. Everyone is different. Thanks for the reply.
@bobbybrowning58983 жыл бұрын
In terms of sizing, have you tried the lone peak 5? I was a 10.5 in the lone peak 4.5, Timp 1.5 and lone peak 4. I had to go down to a 10 for the Lone Peak 5 though... have been eyeballing these for a while now but am curious on comparing them to some other models. Great review btw!
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bobby! For me the Olympus fours fit exactly the same as the loan peak 3, 4 and 4.5 and Timp 1.5. I am a size 11 in all five. I am really wanting to try out a pair of topo ultra venture pros next. I tried some hokas and they’re just too narrow on my toes.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I tried a pair of lone Peak fives on at REI last week and They fit exactly like the 4.5’s to me
@stevenwanders77843 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the LP 3.5’s, 4.0’s and two pair of the 4.5’s and the rubber sole has come unglued on every pair 🤔. May have to try the Olympus.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
It won’t come unglued on the Olympus!
@randygonzalez57583 жыл бұрын
The LP 5.0 that just came out have the rubber part sewn to the front toe box area....think that might’ve solved the prob
@HuskyMike3 жыл бұрын
Jason- any rubbing on your achilles with these? Having gone through a couple pairs of the Lone Peak 3.0 and 3.5 with no issues, I was surprised that the 4.5 were rubbing my achilles quite a bit. Heard the same is happening with the 5.0 so I'm looking for alternatives. The Olympus 4 seems like a good choice, but was hoping to hear your experience with any achilles tendon rubbing issues.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no Achilles rubbing with the Olympus shoes. Obviously everybody’s built a little differently and that’s probably why I’ve never had any rubbing with the lone peaks either. I love the 4.5’s they just don’t quite have enough cushion for me for long mileage days. My Olympus have finally started falling apart in the mesh area and getting to squishy so I’m getting ready to replace them or might try my luck at some topo Ultraventure pro. Hope that helps!
@yusra123 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason i have 6 acres i like to grow fresh corn do you recommend a small seeder also a small harvester , that i can buy from the mainland my farm n the island of Maui Hawaii thank you
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend starting by checking out Martins Produce Supply in PA and look at the small two row planters and harvesters they offer, and maybe they can steer you in the right direction to someone closer to the West coast. Best of luck to you!
@THeCRaCkPlayeR2 жыл бұрын
Answer please, If I have Altra Escalante 2.0, size 48 eu, what size for Olympus 4 do you recommend?
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
I have never tried the Escalante so I can not help you, sorry.
@BradFord8662 жыл бұрын
Nice job 👍
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate that!
@hikerJohn2 жыл бұрын
Didn't the Lone Peaks have the mesh upper in their earlier versions?
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
Well in my lone Peak threes it was a different kind of mesh upper compared to what was in my fours and 4.5’s and sixes, the mesh material on those seems really durable and I wish the Olympus’s would change over to that as well.
@MrKnifeart3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if these fit exactly the same as the paradigm 5???? Paradigm 5 is the widest I found in the toolbox area and normally I'm 11 1/2 on for example escalante 1.5 just for the stretch. I have 11.5 paradigm 5.0 but I was thinking of trying to go to 11. Not sure if I should take the risk but I'm curious if these shoes fit exactly the same and I would drop to an 11 or if I should just stick to 11.5?
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Well since I’m not familiar with the other shoes you mentioned I can’t say for sure. However, I’ve worn 10.5 and 11’s my entire adulthood and 11’s are a perfect fit...could possibly even do an 11.5. So if you’re thinking about trying them I would highly suggest 11.5 if not a12.
@barondavis56923 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the post. My concern is the “too squishy midsoles.” Thoughts?
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
They never seemed too squishy to me until they hit around 400 miles and that’s probably because they are just beginning to break down. They are definitely a high mileage cruiser and treated my feet very well. I am getting ready to replace them finally after 500 miles.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I guess I never really noticed them being over squishy in the midsole area, mainly just in the heel area.
@barondavis56923 жыл бұрын
Jason Wish - Wishwell Farms That worries me. A soft heal can turn a zero drop shoe into a negative drop shoe which can lead to a whole lot of knee problems.
@pgreenx3 жыл бұрын
@@barondavis5692 I agree. I’d rather go with LPs and firmer midsole. In the long run your feet will get stronger. A soft midsole can contribute to weaker weaker feet in the long run and things like PF
@cyberskooma00013 жыл бұрын
I've had such a strange time with Altra's I bought one size up initially - too small. So I went two sizes up..... too small. I am confused lol.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
In my experience the Lone Peaks and Olympus' have always fit me perfect in an 11, which is what I have always worn in other shoes. Timp's definitely fit much tighter and I don't have any experience in their other shoes so I can't speak for them. Sorry to hear you're having trouble with them.
@cyberskooma00013 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- I've been trying the Lone Peak 4.5's. The issue for me seems to be on the top of the foot, where there's a massive pressure against the shoe. I don't have high arches - quite the opposite, I actually have flat feet. I think next time I'll just be trying a different one of their shoes, because they seem to be sworn on. Maybe I just have strange feet lol
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
@@cyberskooma0001 wow, I've never noticed that with the LP's...don't ever waste your time with the Timp's then b/c they are much tighter on top of the foot. I actually had to return my last pair.
@bautistanyc3 жыл бұрын
Planning to use these on my AT thru hike do you highly recommend them ?
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Yes I do! I absolutely love mine and I’m about halfway through my second pair now and most likely will get a third pair when these wear out. Here’s a follow up video to these shoes: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ar2qppWmxtrbeHU.html
@stephenhiker98073 жыл бұрын
Olympus causes stress fracture in the ankle for some.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, well I'm glad that hasn't happened to me and I have put them through the ringer. Might also depend on what a person has worn most of their life prior....for me, I spent half of my childhood being barefoot, which is naturally zero drop. Wearing a high drop for many years of a persons life might make the Altra's a very difficult and painful transition.
@truthmatters7997 Жыл бұрын
Cant find the Olympus 4 anywhere!
@jasonwish- Жыл бұрын
Yeah, unfortunately that shoe is no more but when I did the review over two years ago it was available everywhere. I bought up 3 extra pairs last year when I found out that I didn't like the version 5 as much....I'm still hiking and running in them and have one pair left unopened. It was a great shoe, looking forward to trying the six when it comes out.
@blitzsteinaaron3 жыл бұрын
I don’t see that colourway on the site? Where did you get the all black version from?
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I googled it and it came right up for me...maybe they don’t have them on Altras sight. I see them on Running Warehouse and Zappos.
@blitzsteinaaron3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- Thank you unfortunately I live in Vancouver Canada and cant find that colour here yet...every other colour but just my luck the one I want isn’t available. Hopefully they will release it soon. Thanks for the message
@LLhikes2 жыл бұрын
how many centimetres is the widest size of the insole in the toebox area from your size?
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
In a size 11 they are about 11 cm across the widest section of the insert. My Topo Ultraventure 2's are 10.25 cm but the Olympus 4's feel so much wider and roomier near my small toe.
@LLhikes2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonwish- btw how long are your feet ? mine is 27.8cm and i plan to take size US11.5 (my feet are 11.5cm wide) what do you think?
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
My feet are 27.5 cm long, there are no shoes on the market that I’m aware of that are wider than Altras.
@whatfreedom73 жыл бұрын
“Wide foot shaped toe box.” Bad thing is people have several different toe or foot types so it may not work for everyone.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
True, but for a majority, this is the natural shape of our feet.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
@Brian J I can't imagine wearing non foot shaped footwear ever again! Love the Altra's!
@123dweaver3 жыл бұрын
For some reason I don’t believe you have 400 miles on those. I mean that stock sole looks like it’s barely used?
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I had over 400 miles on them and I am currently over 500 now and I can no longer wear them. They completely fell apart at around mile 450. You can see how bad they look in the next follow up video that I made about them.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Believe me they were well used, I ran two 85 mile FKT’s in those and trained for hundreds of miles before the FKTs and continue to wear them for five months after the FKTs.
@elijahmodnar13 жыл бұрын
no toe socks to use with the altras?
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
I can’t stand toe socks, I tried them for a few weeks and went back to Darn Toughs. I haven’t gotten one blister or hotspot in the Olympus shoes yet so why fix what ain’t broke 😁
@thehundredthmonkey59723 жыл бұрын
Which color way are yours with the red laces ?
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
They are the all black ones. I swapped the laces out for the ones that were on my Lone Peak 4's.
@petersherman25522 жыл бұрын
slippy heal cup
@jasonwish-2 жыл бұрын
I’ve went through three pairs now with nearly 2000 miles on them and have never had a slippery heal cup. They fit my skinny feet very snug and have never had a blister. One of the best fitting shoes and most comfortable shoes I’ve ever worn.
@edschultz57183 жыл бұрын
I finally beat the Colonel.
@jasonwish-3 жыл бұрын
Hahahah, I was actually with him when this released and he didn't even know it 😁