Wow, that is impressive! I'm surprised they have held up through all of that! Thanks for sharing! More vibram Altra!!

Thanks Rhonda! I hope the Altra 5's treat you well! I bought 3 pairs of the 4's when they were on sale before they ran out of them. Also, consider the Topo Athletic Ultraventure 3's, they are my new favorite shoe for 2023, very similar fit and feel of the olympus shoes but even better fit in my opinion. Hike on!

Glad to hear the Olympus has treated you well! Sounds like you have plenty of experience and I totally agree with everything you said here. Good luck on the PCT!

Yes, they are way over priced...should be around $140 tops. Hopefully they will treat your feet as well as they have mine!

I was able to get 800 miles on my second pair before they started falling apart and closing in on 500 miles with my third pair and they are just now starting to come apart in a few spots, but they were exposed to a 350 mile FKT as well.

The same thing happened to me...so glad I found the Olympus. Whatever shoe you decide to go with I hope they treat your feet well, thanks!

Yep...I'm ready for my second pair. After about 500 miles I am finally getting several nice size rips in the mesh.

Thanks Crow! I’m on my second pair of fours now and they are by far my favorite shoe that Altras make, I hope these treat you well!

I just wish they weren't so darn expensive....$170 is way overpriced. I am also very curious about the Topo's, can't wait to get my hands on a pair of Ultraventure Pros. Thanks AJ!

Glad they are working out for you. I’ve never tried a pair of those on before I will have to check them out sometime. Thanks Brian.

Darwin is who got me thinking about them shoes in the first place. I have no interest in the Buckeye Trail...too much road for me. But I am interested in the Knobstone FKT. I really liked that trail when I did it a few years ago. I didn’t realize it didn’t have an unsupported FKT. I see only supported.

Any goals set for the knobstone? If I were to attempt it right now I’m pretty confident I could complete it in around 13-14 hours unsupported depending on whether it’s 48 or 50 miles.

@@jasonwish- We’ll see when the weather breaks we got cold weather coming here in the tristate either way i’ll be pushing for unsupported times i’ve hiked the trails before

If you like Altra's and want a little more cushion, then you can't go wrong with the Olympus!

Awesome, thanks! I did not like the Timp 2's they were very tight on top of my midfoot and the 3's were ok but still not as comfortable as my first three pairs of Olympus 4's or the Timp 1.5's. On my fourth pair of Olympus 4's I had some heel slippage that I had never previously experienced so I sent them back and got the Lone Peak 6's and the heel lock was amazing! I still plan to purchase Olympus again but waiting for the next version and just using the LP 6 for now as well as the Topo Ultraventure 2's for running.

@@jasonwish- REI is selling the Loan Peak 4s for 50% off, $65 shipped, so I couldn't turn down that deal. I haven't tried Loan Peaks and think I'll like them compared to my worn out Timps. I guess REI is getting rid of the old gen.

Thanks CG! Like walkin on a cloud!

Thanks so much Mike! It’s comments like these that continues to give me the motivation to want to film my adventures and create content for KZfaq. Hope you’re able to get out and do some kayaking this summer!

@@jasonwish- You are so welcome! Have you ever had any cryptid encounters on any of your backpacking or camping expeditions? That was wild when you and the Colonel had the rocks thrown at you on the kayak trip.

@@mcgriffiths I did encounter a very similar sound, of rocks being thrown at me, two other times while on trail. Once on the Quehanna Trail in PA and another time on the Sheltowee Trace while walking around Lake Laurel. Both times were about 5:30 am.

@@jasonwish- Wow...glad you made it out of there okay. Thanks, and looking forward to many more videos!

I actually bought a pair of Olympus 5's when they came out last year and they slipped on my heal a little so I sent them back and ordered three pairs of 4's when the price dropped and still wearing two of them to this day...love the 4's!

Great, hope they treat your feet well! I just received my second pair, I ended up getting about 550 miles out of them before they started getting ripped and torn all around the mesh.

It's the perfect combo!

Lol, that is definitely another one of the amazing qualities of the Olympus! I do plan to try the Topo Ultraventure pros at some point....don't want to put all my "eggs in one basket"

I agree completely with what you’re saying and that is exactly why I do not wear any high arch inserts because the planter fascia was designed to absorb the work of the foot. This is also why I like the zero drop. I feel like the lone peaks are very minimalist With how thin the stack height is but sharp rocks would hurt my feet from time to time and they seem to be a little bone jarring trying to jog in them. So I guess what I’m saying is having a zero drop is a more natural approach like being barefooted But having some extra cushion under there protect your feet and allows me to do higher miles Without as much foot soreness at the end of the day.

Is it feasible to use minimalist runners on long distance hikes tho? I have Altra Lone Peak and the bottoms of my feet are in tremendous amt of pain after 20+ miles with high elevation gain

@@randygonzalez5758 It seems some people can handle it but you better have well conditioned feet by training a lot and doing foot strengthening exercises to get them ready for high mileage.

@@randygonzalez5758 imagine if your feet didn't hurt after 20 miles up hill you drip!😂

Good to hear that someone other than me has good luck with the Olympus! After three pairs I took a break from them to try out the Topo Ultraventure two's for running and the LP 6's for backpacking but I will be going back to the Olypmpus for my next long trip or FKT.

Very nice to hear that, because I could get Speedgoat 4 for half the price of Olympus 4 right now.

I wanted to like The speed goats but they crush my toes... why can’t they make a foot shaped toebox like Altra!

@@jasonwish- Don't they have the wide version?

@@kaikart123 the problem with the wide version is that my feet are not wide, actually they are pretty narrow, but my toes have grown accustomed to the wide, natural, foot shaped toe box of the Altra's over the years and every other shoe out there feels constrictive to me now.

I have come very close to purchasing a pair of those but decided to wait on the pro version. I’m very curious how my feet will react to high miles with the Topo shoes, especially running on the road. Thanks Jon!

Visually, topos toe box doesn’t appear to be as wide as Altra, but I’ve never touched the sides. Topo isn’t the most attractive shoe, but they are very comfortable, and seem much more durable than the Lone Peaks or Timps.

Same here. I started off in waterproof Keen boots and was always wondering why my feet were sweating so bad....I could barely do 8-10 miles. As far as the womens version, that is a good question...sorry I can't help you with that one. Thanks Kathy!

For $90 I would definitely give them a try! If I never had heal pain I would be sticking to the LP exclusively.

Nice, I have never tried the superiors mainly because they look very similar to the Lone peaks and they are just a little too thin for me for high mileage days.

@@jasonwish- that makes sense....I eventually wanna go for some vivo trail shoes

@@cjjams7930 do you mean VJ shoes? I was going to get a pair but after seeing how short the tougne is I decided to stick with Topo Ultraventure 2's....love these shoes for running.

@@jasonwish- vivobarefoot

Looking forward to checking out your channel. Thanks!

I'm really looking forward to the next version, hopefully they don't screw with it too much. Some think they are too clunky of a shoe but I don't think so. If the LP had the stack of the Timp and had a little more structure I think I would love it.

Thanks! I like your channel name, my wife and I are getting ready to go on our first RV adventure of 2021 to the beaches of South Carolina!

@@jasonwish- Thanks! You will definitely enjoy your RV adventure it's always a good time. Safe Travels...

I have not. If I did much hiking in the winter time with slush and snow I would definitely try it but during the other three seasons if my feet get wet I would rather have my darn tough socks on and just allow things to air dry while I walked. Thanks Ronald!

@@jasonwish- Thanks your reply. I will try Darn tough! cheers

I wouldn’t disagree with that. I would probably do the same thing. I used my LP 4.5’s in the Adirondack High Peaks wilderness and they did great. For big mile days over 25 it’s hard to beat the comfort of the Olympus though

@@jasonwish- Is this because the lone peaks give you more trail feel, thus reducing the chance of an ankle roll?

@@samiam369 I only rolled my ankel once or twice in over 3000 miles with four pairs of Olympus 4's. But you do feel more connected to the trail in LP's over Olympus for sure but my feet just get too sore in Altra's after long mileage days. I'm more into ultra running now and the Topo's have treated my feet very well.

@@jasonwish- thanks for the info & fast reply!!

For me personally I find that the thickness is just right especially after a 20-35 mile day. If only putting in 10-15 miles a day the lower stack height of the Lone Peaks would probably be fine.

@@jasonwish- ;))) Most of my shoes are only 6mm thick so we have a different perception :) I dodn't order the lone peak because it was too thick. That said, my typical range is max 20km. All my daily shoes are 6mm stack hight

Yeah, I hated the Timp soles as well. Its funny how some love the LP 4.5's and some hate them. They fit me like a glove and if they didn't make the bottom of my feet hurt after a 35 mile day I would wear them exclusively....the 4's were just too sloppy and squishy feeling to me. The Olympus is certainly a great cruising shoe, but I am VERY curious about the Topo Ultraventure Pros....can't to get my feet into a pair of those! Thanks Doug!

I went through three pairs of Olympus fours and set several speed records with them on trails (FKT’s), But I have since switched to the Topo Athletic Ultraventure 2’s. I also tried to the Olympus fives And probably needed to size up a half size as well. I ended up sending them back because I just don’t feel like they lock in around my feet as good as the topo’s. I will probably get another pair of fours just to have on hand. The problem with Topo is that there’s no one that really carries them in Ohio so you have to order online. They have a fairly wide toebox but still not as wide as Altra. Worthington is an awesome market, our best one out of 7 we attend. Thanks!

Yeah that foam wears down way to fast but I still can’t find a shoe that allows me to put down multiple 30+ mile days without getting sore feet and toes. My fourth pair slipped on my heal a bit so I sent them back and got lone peak 6’s and they are so comfortable and roomy for my toes but I get sore feet muscles at about 15 miles each day I hike with them. I still plan on trying Olympus’s again. The Topo shoes just don’t have a roomy enough toe box for me and neither do Hokas.

@@jasonwish- thanks for the additional info. More to think about. My worry with the Topo MNTN Racer 2's is the material in front of the forwardmost lace holes is quite stiff and feels like it's putting pressure on the top of my foot behind my big toes. I've been running in Saucony Peregrine ISOs for 3 years, so the Topo's toebox feels luxurious to me 🤣.

I haven’t tried those yet. I have the Ultraventure 2’s.

Wow I can’t believe how quickly those shoes have been falling apart for you. I am currently on my second pair of Olympus and have around 300 miles on them and they still look almost brand new but I’m not running through the mountains. I tried the speed goats on and it felt like they were crushing my toes. Still interested in trying out topo’s too. I still wear my original Olympus around the farm but they are completely shredded so I do realize they have quality issues, after 500 miles they were completely done. Also have some interest in the Invo brand. I just about bought a pair of the G270s but I think the stack height is too thin for me.

My Olympus 4's have MANY large holes in the mesh where the shoe creases with my foot after about 250 miles of hiking. It's unfortunate, but even with those holes they are good shoes. Just wish the materials durability was better.

On my second pair of Olympys 4`s, currently at 93 miles and still holding up well. At least better than the first pair and i reckon the next 60-90 miles will reveal if the upper has the usual weakness. Also got a pair of Speedgoat 4 wide, and was impressed by their cushioning. Running crazy fast downhill in those. But they are not particularly wide; I would say normal. And the toe box is not on the generous side; extremely low and big toes are pushed firmly inwards. Currently easing into long runs to see if they will work, but I am not too optimistic. Suspect they will cause blisters for me past 10-12 miles.

Currently at around 300 miles backpacking on second pair and look nearly new. Hopefully can get 500 out of them. Never had a blister yet even after many 25-30 mile days.

Looks like you went through about the same progression as I did on the Altra shoes. I loved both pair of my Timp 1.5's but both ended up ripping where the foot/toe crease is in the material up front only after 400 miles each time. I was really looking forward to the 2.0's but I could not stand the way they felt around my mid foot, like so many others have mentioned in other reviews. I also started to notice that my toes would hit the rubber area on the Timps after long days and feel irritated. The Olympus is so much better for me in all areas....I'm not kidding, they are amazing!! Never one blister or hot spot in 400 miles and only sore feet after my FKT when I hiked 84 miles straight. I really want to try the Topo Ultraventure Pro just to see if they are better for trail/road running, but I can't imagine anything being better than the Olympus for overall comfort on and off the trail. Very durable too! Can't wait to see the next version once these wear out. I bet I'll get 700-800 miles on this pair easily if I had to guess.

I've always been an 11 and that's what worked for me...not sure if you want to size up or not unless you like some extra room or have wide feet already. Preemptive taping sounds like a great idea but not sure where and how one would apply it to the shoe. After 500 miles they just fell apart in too many places. My new ones have 150 miles on them as of this comment and look and feel like new still.

Thanks for the reply. They sure looked good at 400... I believe all of these type of lightweight shoes are done at 500. If that's what you get, then that's good enough for me. I've had shoes that looked fine after 500 but started giving foot troubles so there's that.

Yeah, I would typically only get about 400 miles on them before they started getting rips in them and feeling too squishy. I've moved to the Topo Ultraventure 2's and 3's...very durable and comfortable for backpacking and running.

@@jasonwish- mine ripped along the edge where the shoe attaches to the sole, at about 300-350 miles on the AT and I’m a tiny person with a relatively light pack disappointing, to say the least, company told me too bad, I guess I expect more for 170.00, now I buy used like new on eBay at least I get my Altras and my monies worth

I loved my Timp 1.5’s but they fell apart on me as well around 400 miles. My Olympus are finally starting to come apart on me around 500 miles...I think they’ve had it unfortunately. The mesh finally ripped in several places and the soft sole’s are getting too soft. I plan to get another pair if I don’t like the Topo Ultraventures.

I don’t have any experience with sock liners so I can’t speak to that. But for me I just like wearing mid weight darn tough socks with my a altras and it’s always worked perfect. I’ve only gotten blisters once during a 350 mile FKT. Hope that helps!

I was considering the 5's as well...I just wish they would add a little bit to the stack height. It was the perfect amount on the Timp 1.5's. A marriage between the LP and the Timps would be the perfect shoe.

I really want to try a pair of the Ultraventure Pro’s for Trail running.

I have found the the 5 mm drop to be too big a difference. Deal breaker for me.

@@barondavis5692 I would prefer a 3 mm but I think I will still give them a try.

Jason Wish - Wishwell Farms The terradveture 2 has a 3 mm drop but I think a new version is coming “soon.”

Yes I do. My last pair of Olympus 4's were a little loose on my heals so I sent them back and tried the LP6's, which has an excellent heal cup fit, but I do miss the comfort of the Olympus' stack. The Timp 4 felt pretty good too when I tried them on at REI recently. I will give the Olympus another try soon, hopefully I just had a bad pair, the other four pairs where great!

Thanks Robert. I actually just received my second pair today. I am still wearing my old ones but they are worn out pretty bad now after about 550 miles. The mesh is ripped in numerous spots with shoe goo everywhere and the foam is super squishy now, so I would guess that 450-500 miles is about max for these shoes. I tried the Timp 3 last week and had to send them back, way too tight around the mid foot for me. Hope they work out well for you!

@@jasonwish- 500 miles is a lot of great memories. That seems reasonable for $170 if they helped make those miles more enjoyable. I look at my time outdoors as an INVESTMENT in my physical and mental health, so anything to improve that experience is money well spent in my opinion. Thanks again Jason for the great review and reply..

Currently using the Topo Athletic Ultraventure 2's, similar stack to the Timps...I think its 30mm.

@@jasonwish- Wondering how you like the ultraventure 2s? Have you done a review on them yet? I searched your channel but didn't see it if you have...I loved my lone peak 4.5 until I got plantar fasciitis bcs I didn't know they had broken down. I am prone to ankles sprains, so want as low a stack height as possible with better durability and cushioning than the lone peaks

@@samiam369 the topo athletic shoes are my go to shoes for 2022...I love the Ultraventure 2's. I too had PF on and off for over 3 years, never in both feet at the same time though. Since moving to Topo's my PF has completely gone away! They have numerous different styles and stack heights to choose from, I'm sure there is one you will like. I do have a first look video on them and a short hike with them and intial thoughts but not a full on review of them. I want to like Altra so bad because of the toe box but my feet get too sore from them after 25-50 mile days, especially during my FKT attempts. Here is the video link if interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7mgoc1iqbWxqmQ.html

@@jasonwish- thank you for the awesome vid & additional information, so quickly!!

Most of the miles were in the woods...I have many, many videos of me wearing them in the back country, but they do great on asphalt too! 😉

Since making this video I’ve had to completely leave Altras and have switched to topo athletic more specifically the ultra venture 2’s, I can go all day long and not get sore feet, and I’m not just talking about simple 10 to 20 mile days I’m talking 40 to 50 mile days. I assume you’re referring to running and I mainly talking about long-distance backpacking and some running.

@@jasonwish- Nope. I’m a backpacker. I wanted to like the Topo Ultraventure 2 but they were just way too stiff for me. Didn’t flex well. That’s why they make more than one kind. Everyone is different. Thanks for the reply.

Thanks Bobby! For me the Olympus fours fit exactly the same as the loan peak 3, 4 and 4.5 and Timp 1.5. I am a size 11 in all five. I am really wanting to try out a pair of topo ultra venture pros next. I tried some hokas and they’re just too narrow on my toes.

I tried a pair of lone Peak fives on at REI last week and They fit exactly like the 4.5’s to me

It won’t come unglued on the Olympus!

The LP 5.0 that just came out have the rubber part sewn to the front toe box area....think that might’ve solved the prob

I have absolutely no Achilles rubbing with the Olympus shoes. Obviously everybody’s built a little differently and that’s probably why I’ve never had any rubbing with the lone peaks either. I love the 4.5’s they just don’t quite have enough cushion for me for long mileage days. My Olympus have finally started falling apart in the mesh area and getting to squishy so I’m getting ready to replace them or might try my luck at some topo Ultraventure pro. Hope that helps!

I would recommend starting by checking out Martins Produce Supply in PA and look at the small two row planters and harvesters they offer, and maybe they can steer you in the right direction to someone closer to the West coast. Best of luck to you!

I have never tried the Escalante so I can not help you, sorry.

Thanks, I appreciate that!

Well in my lone Peak threes it was a different kind of mesh upper compared to what was in my fours and 4.5’s and sixes, the mesh material on those seems really durable and I wish the Olympus’s would change over to that as well.

Well since I’m not familiar with the other shoes you mentioned I can’t say for sure. However, I’ve worn 10.5 and 11’s my entire adulthood and 11’s are a perfect fit...could possibly even do an 11.5. So if you’re thinking about trying them I would highly suggest 11.5 if not a12.

They never seemed too squishy to me until they hit around 400 miles and that’s probably because they are just beginning to break down. They are definitely a high mileage cruiser and treated my feet very well. I am getting ready to replace them finally after 500 miles.

I guess I never really noticed them being over squishy in the midsole area, mainly just in the heel area.

Jason Wish - Wishwell Farms That worries me. A soft heal can turn a zero drop shoe into a negative drop shoe which can lead to a whole lot of knee problems.

@@barondavis5692 I agree. I’d rather go with LPs and firmer midsole. In the long run your feet will get stronger. A soft midsole can contribute to weaker weaker feet in the long run and things like PF

In my experience the Lone Peaks and Olympus' have always fit me perfect in an 11, which is what I have always worn in other shoes. Timp's definitely fit much tighter and I don't have any experience in their other shoes so I can't speak for them. Sorry to hear you're having trouble with them.

@@jasonwish- I've been trying the Lone Peak 4.5's. The issue for me seems to be on the top of the foot, where there's a massive pressure against the shoe. I don't have high arches - quite the opposite, I actually have flat feet. I think next time I'll just be trying a different one of their shoes, because they seem to be sworn on. Maybe I just have strange feet lol

@@cyberskooma0001 wow, I've never noticed that with the LP's...don't ever waste your time with the Timp's then b/c they are much tighter on top of the foot. I actually had to return my last pair.

Yes I do! I absolutely love mine and I’m about halfway through my second pair now and most likely will get a third pair when these wear out. Here’s a follow up video to these shoes: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ar2qppWmxtrbeHU.html

Hmmmm, well I'm glad that hasn't happened to me and I have put them through the ringer. Might also depend on what a person has worn most of their life prior....for me, I spent half of my childhood being barefoot, which is naturally zero drop. Wearing a high drop for many years of a persons life might make the Altra's a very difficult and painful transition.

Yeah, unfortunately that shoe is no more but when I did the review over two years ago it was available everywhere. I bought up 3 extra pairs last year when I found out that I didn't like the version 5 as much....I'm still hiking and running in them and have one pair left unopened. It was a great shoe, looking forward to trying the six when it comes out.

I googled it and it came right up for me...maybe they don’t have them on Altras sight. I see them on Running Warehouse and Zappos.

@@jasonwish- Thank you unfortunately I live in Vancouver Canada and cant find that colour here yet...every other colour but just my luck the one I want isn’t available. Hopefully they will release it soon. Thanks for the message

In a size 11 they are about 11 cm across the widest section of the insert. My Topo Ultraventure 2's are 10.25 cm but the Olympus 4's feel so much wider and roomier near my small toe.

@@jasonwish- btw how long are your feet ? mine is 27.8cm and i plan to take size US11.5 (my feet are 11.5cm wide) what do you think?

My feet are 27.5 cm long, there are no shoes on the market that I’m aware of that are wider than Altras.

True, but for a majority, this is the natural shape of our feet.

@Brian J I can't imagine wearing non foot shaped footwear ever again! Love the Altra's!

I had over 400 miles on them and I am currently over 500 now and I can no longer wear them. They completely fell apart at around mile 450. You can see how bad they look in the next follow up video that I made about them.

Believe me they were well used, I ran two 85 mile FKT’s in those and trained for hundreds of miles before the FKTs and continue to wear them for five months after the FKTs.

I can’t stand toe socks, I tried them for a few weeks and went back to Darn Toughs. I haven’t gotten one blister or hotspot in the Olympus shoes yet so why fix what ain’t broke 😁

They are the all black ones. I swapped the laces out for the ones that were on my Lone Peak 4's.

I’ve went through three pairs now with nearly 2000 miles on them and have never had a slippery heal cup. They fit my skinny feet very snug and have never had a blister. One of the best fitting shoes and most comfortable shoes I’ve ever worn.

Hahahah, I was actually with him when this released and he didn't even know it 😁

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