SPDIF, TOSlink, AES/EBU or I²S, what’s the best?

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The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel

The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel

Күн бұрын

What digital interface is the best? This is a question that is often posted on this channel. When it passed again last week, I found it time to explain the differences and try to weapon you with knowledge so you can decide for yourself.
Contents of this video
00:00 - Intro
00:23 - Start of program
00:57 - The AES-3 interfaces
02:01 - Bi-phase mark
05:41 - Physical level
06:51 - The subcode
07:54 - The quality
08:52 - USB Audio
09:33 - Audio Class 1
10:58 - Audio Class 2
12:00 - The quality
12:59 - HDMI for audio
14:29 - I²S is not HDMI
16:24 - The wrap
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@brianhubbard7492
@brianhubbard7492 Жыл бұрын
If your serious about audio this video is is priceless. Thank you for this great point of reference with clear explanations. This is an instant classic for audio enthusiasts in all platforms. Thank you 🙏🏿 Hans
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@manardh7387
@manardh7387 2 жыл бұрын
Very good description of the technology Hans. It's amazing how many choices we have available today in audio.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
It is, isn't it
@robertwebster8615
@robertwebster8615 2 жыл бұрын
All my best to you, Hans !!! You put your heart and soul into all your videos. :)
@ginovairo6487
@ginovairo6487 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Hans. Glad to have you back in top form.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@DJ_BROBOT
@DJ_BROBOT 2 жыл бұрын
Uncle Hans.. You are spot on about the use of certain connections depending on the component. In my system, I have switched between the two spidf standards hundreds of times
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Mery Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours too!
@nakfan
@nakfan 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanations 👍I especially liked how you showed that the 'digital' signal is not 1' and 0's floating through a cable, but sequences of analog squarewaves on a treasures journey from source to receiver / dac..
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@matthewnapoletano6669
@matthewnapoletano6669 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone actually think that real numbers fly through wires? The square wave is a representation of binary.
@ktakeshi17
@ktakeshi17 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you Hans...Although I have already learnt all the contents that you have said on this video. It's still very refreshing to see such a reference grade video made for people's future reference. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Mery Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours too!
@jeffhampton6972
@jeffhampton6972 2 жыл бұрын
This is so wonderfully descriptive, thank you for making this! I've learned a lot from this.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@stereo8893
@stereo8893 2 жыл бұрын
Hans, this is the best explanation I have yet to hear about this all too confusing subject. Your graphics are easy to understand and support your talk. Thanks for helping us understand what we have as options and how they work. - Ray
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@columcreaven8860
@columcreaven8860 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back, great review as always
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@medonk12rs
@medonk12rs Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Hans. Thanks a lot for your in depth analysis and great visualisations!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@wouterkolkman
@wouterkolkman 2 жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation Hans! Thank you.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@fredmclaughlan7574
@fredmclaughlan7574 2 жыл бұрын
Your wealth of knowledge is truly impressive Hans!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I stand on very big shoulders
@johnmarchington3146
@johnmarchington3146 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, Hans. Another excellent, informative video.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome
@l3FG-9000
@l3FG-9000 2 жыл бұрын
Video of the year! Merry Christmas Hans! 🎄
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@BrianNavalinsky
@BrianNavalinsky 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic clarification, Hans! Thanks so much!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@klc2578
@klc2578 2 жыл бұрын
this is what I'm waiting for. thank you very much.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@Gem-Ex
@Gem-Ex 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hans, you rock :) Merry Christmas
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the music
@bootstrapjesse
@bootstrapjesse Жыл бұрын
Wow. That was great. Thanks for such a thorough breakdown.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@TheDrAntoon
@TheDrAntoon Жыл бұрын
So glad I found your channel! Highly informative and super well explained. Subscribed and thumbs up! Doe verder zo!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
🙏🏽
@TrappoLone
@TrappoLone 3 ай бұрын
this is one of the best explanations ever! thanks so much
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 ай бұрын
You're very welcome!
@joscallinet6260
@joscallinet6260 2 жыл бұрын
Hans, thank you for your thorough review of digital-interface cables, what they do and the different ways in which they're used. You are so right to point out that how well a particular kind of digital interconnect cable works (how good it "sounds") depends greatly on the quality of the equipment we use it with. I hope sometime soon, if you haven't done so already, you can give us, your loyal viewers, a follow-up report on how well you have recovered from the operation to restore the steadiness in your hands. Has the device the doctors implanted given your hands the steadiness they had before the tremors began to really affect you? I am very happy to see you looking good and back to giving us your excellent and very informative videos!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
You probably have seen this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pL93Z9dquK61iXU.html. I plan to do a report on the progression after half a year.
@murraywebster1228
@murraywebster1228 6 ай бұрын
Clear and succinct explanations, thank you very much 😊
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@dietrichwagner
@dietrichwagner 2 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining the different interfaces. New to me was the pin layout in I2S can differ from manufactures, if I understood that correct.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
You did understand correctly
@dannybourne_
@dannybourne_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you for excellent explanation.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@TonyMartello
@TonyMartello Жыл бұрын
Great information video, thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chris6796
@chris6796 Жыл бұрын
Excellent detail
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DJURBANBG
@DJURBANBG 7 ай бұрын
YOUR ARE AMAZING, thank you very much !
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@johndavies6253
@johndavies6253 2 жыл бұрын
The is truly a Reference Grade video, thank you Hans, fantastic work as ever. I wish my old college text books were as clear and well reasoned as your videos. I would have achieved far better grades!! Merry Christmas from the UK.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks and a Merry Christmas to you and yours.
@BeHenk
@BeHenk 2 жыл бұрын
Opnieuw een zeer interessante video. PS Ook mijn vrouw waardeert uw video's zeer. In haar geval niet vanwege de inhoud, maar vooral vanwege uw rustgevende stemgeluid waarbij zij heerlijk ontspant terwijl ik vol interesse luister 😀
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I can entertain your wife too
@robvandendolder3157
@robvandendolder3157 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again Hans😎👍👍
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Always welcome
@bikemmm6167
@bikemmm6167 2 жыл бұрын
Well done , thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@francois3684
@francois3684 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Hans for this very knowledgeable exposé! I used to work in the broadcast industry where stereo audio was transported AES EBU true one 75 ohms coax.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@m.9243
@m.9243 2 жыл бұрын
A wealth of information as usual! Always, by the end of your videos, I have learned - or at least - clarified something new in my head. Thank you Hans and all the very best for a happy Christmas and a healthy New Year!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Mery Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours too!
@video99couk
@video99couk 2 жыл бұрын
There was one other interface from the past: SDIF-2 was a three-cable solution (Left/Right/Word Clock) used on professional PCM equipment in the early days of CD. I have SDIF-2 to S/PDIF AES/EBU conversion equipment which I use for recording from PCM1630 tapes to modern equipment. As for AES/EBU vs. S/PDIF, you can connect either signal with suitable cables and a modern digital recorder may just work, I can connect either directly to a Tascam DR-100MKII for example.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
If you have watched de video carefully you must have noted that I mention SDIF in two generations (1 and 2) and SDIF-3, being used for DSD recording
@lucasrem1870
@lucasrem1870 2 жыл бұрын
SPDIV is any stream, just raw data! it can support 20 channels! Is your DAC is understanding the 20 channels it gets offered over SPDIV, or do you need to upgrade that DAC! please use HDMI 2.1 if you need cables, forgot all the 1980 cables! Stream all music!
@IceKrabik
@IceKrabik 28 күн бұрын
thanks for a great videos
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 28 күн бұрын
Glad you like them!
@jimshaw899
@jimshaw899 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, Hans. I learned from your video. A fairly clear explanation of a very murky subject to 99% of audiophiles. As in so many engineering specifications and standards, the major influence on whether to need 'pro' level interfaces and cables is *distance.* And in that light, there's the issue of 'audible difference.' Pro and broadcast gear may fall into a chain of dozens of items between source and endpoint. There, the contribution of each item in the chain adds to make (otherwise) inaudible signal changes accumulate to become audio issues that *are* audible in a broadcast or recording. And for example, sending these interconnections hundreds of meters between a concert and a TV/radio/recording 'truck' may be a chore that we mere audiophiles needn't face. My point: That professional level interconnection standards and practices that are nice to know and "get your head around" may offer advantages that simply playing back high quality music at home doesn't need. [Ground loops excepted.]
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
In practice the pro formats can sound better under domestic circumstances. For instance if the implementation of AES/EBU is better than the SPDIF one. Or, indeed, with ground loops, poor PSU's and so on. In Audio theory is nice, but in practice things might differ.
@JB-fh1bb
@JB-fh1bb 2 жыл бұрын
With technology where it is now, and ignoring patent/licensing/competition issues, are we at a point now where we could have a reasonable cost (
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
My experience doesn’t
@JB-fh1bb
@JB-fh1bb 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Agreed. Experience tells me we may not even get there in 200 years, but not because of technology. That's why I'm curious about our current collective ability.
@RWmHII
@RWmHII 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@estudioquantize
@estudioquantize Жыл бұрын
Thanks sir. For explain 🎉
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
my pleasure
@seraphin_creates
@seraphin_creates 2 жыл бұрын
/thank you great information
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@fredrikbarthel4803
@fredrikbarthel4803 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video Hans! 👍 One note on the I2s, the reason for HDMI/Ethernet cables is to transmit the delicate I2s signal balanced (and they are good for transmitting high speed data)! Some manufactures referee this as the PS-audio "standard" but other manufactures have there own balanced pin configuration for the I2s signal's. There are balanced converter on the sender and a unbalanced converter on the receiving end. And i think that the signal by passes the dac's internal clock and connect's to the DA-converter's I2s pin without the need for a PLL clock. (I have upgraded my 10year's old dac with an HDMI-I2s connector)
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
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@lucasrem1870
@lucasrem1870 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need Ethernet anymore, you can stream it over HDMI now! What DAC u use now? guess you need upgrades, needing HDMI 2.1!
@TheZonga
@TheZonga Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@arekkramp9717
@arekkramp9717 2 жыл бұрын
Great thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@TheKooksen
@TheKooksen 10 ай бұрын
Bedankt
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 10 ай бұрын
🙏🏻🙏🏻
@alexherceg9496
@alexherceg9496 2 жыл бұрын
Hans, great video as always. It would have been great to learn about the difference between HDMI cables for I2S. I know most use LVDS but there is at least one other standard… I’m still not clear on the difference between them (one is compatible with both, but one is more limited). Any knowledge you can share would be great!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I don't do cable reviews. And I don't own a DAC that has I²S inputs. Sorry.
@betaomega04
@betaomega04 Жыл бұрын
With the physical cable, there are no differences. That's the point. PS Audio recognized that HDMI cables are capable of transmitting the I2S signal quite well. While they use the physical cable, they do not use the actual protocol, but rather use the individual channels within the cable to facilitate the signal and clocks.
@st33Npuist
@st33Npuist Жыл бұрын
Hans, dank!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@HailKingCeezer
@HailKingCeezer 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Hans, as someone with a vintage dac, what do you think about the ST glass optical input vs AES/EBU, Coax, Toslink?
@fretlessfender
@fretlessfender 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! There was one system missing in this story and that was Firewire or iee1394. I use a digital mixing board that uses that interface and it is not without its problems, but once it is stable it does the job. (16 ch 24bit 96khz..) Is it a sensible interface you think?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
FireWire has hardly been available in the domestic audio market.
@fretlessfender
@fretlessfender 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel dank je Hans ( ik heet ook Hans dus dat klets makkelijker) Ik vroeg het omdat firewire ook een stroom is en usb woorden zijn... wellicht dat firewire dan een voordeeltje heeft. Bovendien ieee1394 was standaard voor elke Mac en mini-dv camera in de late jaren 90 en vroege 2000....
@hmarc417
@hmarc417 2 жыл бұрын
Very Good Very Good.......Straight and to the point. "" It Depends "" I Like It. :-) It not only fits here but just about everywhere else , and always when your wearing horseshoes. Cheers
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@peterlynn3190
@peterlynn3190 2 жыл бұрын
Would using the Pontus 2 going via XLR to active speakers (acoustic energy ae1)using their volume controls be okay. Would it prove a difficult load going direct without a pre-amp?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I have no hands-on experience with your speakers but if your speakers have a workable volume control (remote) it will technically be a viable solution.
@henrikhengerics6782
@henrikhengerics6782 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanations. From what I have heard the I2S is advised. As on Denafrips Dacs (HDMI interface) and on Sonnet Dacs (RJ45 interface). In this regards they probably paid more attention to that connection and not so much to the others (possibly). Unfortunately I could not distinguish which cable was mentioned at around 15:30 mark. "AZ mad/mac cable"? Search engine does not help. Any suggestions?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
You can always use subtitling
@henrikhengerics6782
@henrikhengerics6782 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Of course that was the first thing I have tried. It badly translates it to dutch. And if english is chosen, then it translates the dutch back to english, needless to say that that is also incorret.
@ktakeshi17
@ktakeshi17 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Hi Hans, yeah, the subtitling didn't work for me either. Can you elaborate what is the AC/MAC cable that you referred to in the video? Thank you in advance.
@alessandrobonicalzi1394
@alessandrobonicalzi1394 2 жыл бұрын
Selectable subtitles are in Dutch only. I wrote to KZfaq asking for an explanation and they can't give me an answer. Ancient Zen proverb says: before following what the teacher says, try to understand what the teacher says. A prayer for English subtitles…
@d_dude_is_here
@d_dude_is_here 2 жыл бұрын
He is just saying HDMI cable there. No brand name mentioned.
@De132an
@De132an 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@johnmarchington3146
@johnmarchington3146 9 ай бұрын
I meant to mention that I own the PS Audio SACD transport and DirectStream DAC and I use I²S via pseudo-HDMI connectors to connect the two, with excellent results
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 9 ай бұрын
I²S, like AES/EBU can be a very good interface but only when done properly.
@johnmarchington3146
@johnmarchington3146 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, Hans. I agree. I hope to have the Mk II DirectStream DAC soon.
@belalugrisi1614
@belalugrisi1614 6 ай бұрын
I have the PS Audio DirectStream and their NuWave Phono Converter (and also their power regenerator). Since my Thorens 320 MKII / Grado Gold3 needs to be on a very stable surface, it is a 12' length to my pre. I use the NuWave Phono Converter to deliver I2S (DSD128) to my DAC. (Don't hit me!) The results are stunning. There would be more change in the signal if I tried to extend the phono lines.
@belalugrisi1614
@belalugrisi1614 6 ай бұрын
@@johnmarchington3146 You're in for a real treat! Happy listening!
@MrTennisdoc40
@MrTennisdoc40 2 жыл бұрын
My first experience with I2S was the ps audio perfect wave dac and transport. It was an hdmi cable using the I2s protocol. It was excellent and I attributed it to the buffering and the I2s. My dac will receive toslink, spdif, aes, I2s and usb. Choosing a roon player am using a usb to the dac and sound quality is amazing. Using toslink to stream Amazon hd from chroma at audio and while very satisfying, not up to the usb.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@connorduke4619
@connorduke4619 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but I missed one thing: is I2S synchronous or asynchronous?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
It is synchronous but with separate clock lines
@saint6563
@saint6563 2 жыл бұрын
You start and finish the video with the same question. Should have titled this various digital connection explained. Thanks for the info.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right, but did you learn from that??
@saint6563
@saint6563 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Gee, thought posting "thanks for the info" would make that abundantly obvious. hahaha Enjoy the New Year!
@gino3286
@gino3286 3 ай бұрын
hi thanks for the extremely valuable video There is an aspect that escapes me and I can't really understand leaving aside the cheap equipment for a moment and instead analyzing the valuable ones, I swear that I don't understand why DACs and digital sources of a certain level have not adopted for the transmission of the spdif signal the BNC standard which is the one commonly used for digital oscilloscopes, function generators and digital spectrum analyzers It was a standard already available and absolutely valid since they use it up to 1 GHz Not only that, I have also seen that these units are so precise that they are able to highlight problems even in the bnc to bnc connection cable, for example with square wave tests. That is, it seems that every now and then in high fidelity there is a naïve, unscientific approach The RCA cable was not created for transferring digital signals but analog ones. I really don't understand why you should force yourself to adapt a cable wrong by design A 50USD right cable could be much superior to a 500USD cable wrong by design Obviously it's not even worth discussing cheap devices with their understandable limits
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 ай бұрын
True. But there are good 75 ohm cables with RCA’s as used for composite video ( yellow plugs) and there are very good SPDIF cables from Audiofile cable manufacturers.
@gino3286
@gino3286 3 ай бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel hi thank you very much indeed for your kind and very valuable advice My feeling is that good RCAs could be more expensive than standard BNC But the option of BNC on dacs is quite rare and even more on digital source So it is no question RCA cable also for spdif Kindest regards gino
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the BlueSound Node (2021) and currently feed it to my Holo Spring KTE dac via SPDIF. it's a nice solution but they are working to get the USB output to work (still waiting). I did ask about using a DDC (Singxer SU6) with BS Node. They responded "Yesterday's update did not include USB DAC output, not from lack of trying though and we are still looking to add it very shortly. That being said, it is very unlikely it will support I2S." I would have thought if their USB output would work then the SU6 would reclock and would support I2s to my dac?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. But although the Node is a very fine device within its price bracket, it limits the quality of the Holo....
@alexherceg9496
@alexherceg9496 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Magna Mano player (from Magna Hifi). It’s a streamer that is more expensive than the Node but does I2S. It’s a great price/quality device
@bighanmanjam6927
@bighanmanjam6927 2 жыл бұрын
It seems when I use I2S HDMI from DDC to Dac , the left right channels are swapped. Any suggestions on fixing this and not affect the sound?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
There is no standard for I²S over HDMI cable. Some devices can change the pinout by settings.
@bighanmanjam6927
@bighanmanjam6927 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel for example, my Dac can inverse I2S. Should I choose this option?
@chris-ti7pb
@chris-ti7pb 2 жыл бұрын
But Hans, isn’t USB the better choice whenever you have an onboard dac in your amp, so the clock works optimal?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
No, watch the video again
@charleshuguley9903
@charleshuguley9903 2 жыл бұрын
Sibilence is a problem, but I learned some valuable things.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Sibilance is the most difficult artefact to conquer.
@randomtube8226
@randomtube8226 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt the best connection be the one that can deliver the most data the fastest correctly?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid not. The best connection is the one that delivers the accurate amount of data at the correct speed. 'As fast as possible' is always the noisiest way.
@hartgemini007
@hartgemini007 10 ай бұрын
What’s really interesting is most audiophile high end dealers say balanced is far better than RCA which is nonsense if you speak to someone who actually knows what they are talking about. USB is rubbish compared to AES/EBU or SPDIF which again is rubbish. Case in point recently was considering upgrading my MSB DAC to the new DCS Apex Bartok which is used on its own along with connected to my Antipodes server using USB and sounded great although virtually the same. My dealer then said I had to listen to a new brand he had taken on at the Munich show called Ideon and listen to their ION DAC which also uses USB . It transformed the sound by at least 30% in all areas , I was blown away. Clearly Ideon are doing something completely different when it comes to their USB compared to other companies as their DAC’s are on another level. Just goes to show it’s not the connection but how they are configuring it that makes the difference.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 10 ай бұрын
Well that’s what I keep telling all the time. It’s not the type of interface but how well it is implemented on both sides.
@adaboy4z
@adaboy4z 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering what can I do with the I2S on the back of my SMSL D0200 Dac especially since it has XLR, RCA and Toslink.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the music
@alexxbaudwhyn7572
@alexxbaudwhyn7572 2 жыл бұрын
With the latest Wi-Fi standards and Wi-Fi direct, seems to me that the days are worrying about digital cables are numbered. If more Dacs include Wi-Fi streaming as most good receivers nowadays, interconnects will be less relevant
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you luck with wifi in a crowded area.
@lucasrem1870
@lucasrem1870 2 жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with wi-fi, just a network level what data your DAC is understanding, can it decode the ATMOS? receivers nowadays? streaming you need, no wires!
@carloscosta3514
@carloscosta3514 Жыл бұрын
My problem is how to find a i2s cable. A lot of good brands have hdmi, but I don't find any i2s cable. Can you help me ?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
A good HDMI cable functions as an I²S cable. The demands for HDMI are a lot higher than for I²S.
@marcodratwa3287
@marcodratwa3287 Жыл бұрын
I use RICABLE HDMI F1MK II Supreme made in Italy.
@Dr.reese_UBR3
@Dr.reese_UBR3 2 жыл бұрын
Would i2s be the better option for dsd playback from sacd player? I’m using a hdmi to i2s extractor
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know. Sorry
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 2 жыл бұрын
Like the 8th time I watched this.., finally getting it.., that I’m buggered… no one is working in the local hifi shops knows this.. they’re mostly vinyl …. & I’m stuck with the connections my gear has or doing a PhD to figure the next match up In gear😂👍🙏
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Your perseverance is recommendable. It is the way I collected my knowledge too.
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Lol yes… 10 yrs gaining context.. to get my near final speakers & amp , much of it listening to your reviews & insights.. Next is proper DAC & possibly streamer upgrade from bluesound node 2.. Looking to learn the “best” connections…. but as you say it all depends. Thank Hans for everything 🙏🙏
@pauldavidthomasfrodo
@pauldavidthomasfrodo Жыл бұрын
I constantly read or watching things multiple times to allow a subject to sink in. Everyone's mind works in a different way, if this works for you then you've done well be re-watching.
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 Жыл бұрын
@@pauldavidthomasfrodo 👍😂… @ 42 yrs.., I did a course on mindfulness.., amongst other … I learnt a lot about how I think of self..👍😂 A huge thing for me to get is that it’s ok & proper for me/ us to read near everything at least 3 times b4 we.. give opinion/ think we got it… etc etc What a huge relief.., I had always thought that you must look at & ingest in one go.., or you’re stupid (which now sounds stupid as I type it) I had always thought I was a slow/ poor learner😂 I consult on Marine engineering…, man the stuff we believe of self
@williammurray9055
@williammurray9055 9 ай бұрын
What is "AZ Mag cable?" I can not find it on the Internets.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 9 ай бұрын
I don't know either. You could switch on CC (Close Caption/subtitles) to see what I really said.
@williammurray9055
@williammurray9055 9 ай бұрын
At 15:27. Cannot make sense of the Close Captioning
@Antoon55
@Antoon55 2 жыл бұрын
What about Ethernet, my Brooklyn Bridge has a network connection...?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
That's a different interface. In fact it is a network bridge integrated in the Brooklyn DAC. The bridge in the Brooklyn Bridge is comparable to a separate network bridge of about € 600 to € 800.
@lucasrem1870
@lucasrem1870 2 жыл бұрын
Ethernet was good in the old days, SPDIV too Then you can do any data, and have all the bandwidth you need, no restrictions! But now people just need to stream music, this guy is Real to real levels still, not understanding.....
@faithhopelove6945
@faithhopelove6945 Жыл бұрын
And USB 2.0....? It supports much higher Sample Rates..., but does it sound better than AES ? Many Thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Ah, higher number sound better… In audio higher numbers don’t say much unless you take them all into account and that’s complex. If done very well AES/EBU sounds very good (it’s what studios use). Higher sampling rates are not used in studios.
@faithhopelove6945
@faithhopelove6945 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I use PSI Audio Monitors and use them for Mixing but also for Music Hearing Sessions...So USB should sound better, only for Hearing and not for Producing? Is the Gain Output the same on USB as on AES ?Thanks
@gme10955
@gme10955 Жыл бұрын
What about AT&T glass?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Haven't tried
@spuddyl9938
@spuddyl9938 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if switching from my laptop to a dedicated streamer will improve sound quality
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
95% the sound quality will improve 150% provided you buy a streamer or network bridge of the same quality as the rest of your stereo
@spuddyl9938
@spuddyl9938 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel A reply from the man himself, I feel honored. That would indeed be a massive improvement. My current system is a Marantz pm8005, Topping D30pro dac and Triangle Comet EZ speakers. Merry Christmas and good health to you and your kin Hans.
@thepuma2012
@thepuma2012 2 жыл бұрын
@@spuddyl9938 in computers there are many times minor quality soundcards, so I would certainly go for a good quality streamer
@spuddyl9938
@spuddyl9938 2 жыл бұрын
@@thepuma2012 I'm not using the computers soundcard. I'm using a Topping D30 pro which is connected to the laptop via usb. What I'm wondering is if the sound quality would go up significantly if I used a dedicated streamer as a source rather than my laptop.
@thepuma2012
@thepuma2012 2 жыл бұрын
@@spuddyl9938 that might depend on how the connection is made, you might have to look at the difference between usb connection and optic etc. ( i dont have the answer)
@grahamstrahle4010
@grahamstrahle4010 5 ай бұрын
Definitive explanation of the subject, I'd suggest.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@vitorvasconcelos2611
@vitorvasconcelos2611 5 ай бұрын
And the best is?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 ай бұрын
The one that sounds best and that varies between devices. Sorry, there are no easy answers.
@vitorvasconcelos2611
@vitorvasconcelos2611 5 ай бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thanks. yes, I know That. All the best.
@landmanp
@landmanp 2 ай бұрын
It is probably a fantastic video, but I'M A DUMMY 😓😭, sorry but it's to technical for my, I need examples how the connection looks like and wich one I should take.🙃
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 ай бұрын
Understood
@dododale-ni7bf
@dododale-ni7bf 7 ай бұрын
S/PDIF IS FINE.....RCA IS FINE......
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 7 ай бұрын
AES/EBU is fine too, as is I²S. But only if it is done well.
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