@Tom-vi3ji van der sar clear

He was on his way down , Ajax to Juventus then to Fulham ,then you would imagine to a lower division club , then Ferguson pick him back up for just 2 million pounds at 35 , For me that's Ferguson's best ever bargain buy . At the time the best players were going for 30 million pounds and average ones were going for 15 to 20 million pounds.

​@Tom van dar sar ,Buffon ,Peter Chec, Ike casillas , any of those 4 can claim to be the best goalkeeper in the world at that time.

​@Tom-vi3jiwho the hell was talking about Buffon?

He was great but better than Buffon or casillas? Might want to get those united glasses off

True very true

Caroll, Howard, Barthez, Bosnich all were suspects between the sticks and cost us many times and in the crucial stages in the champs league.

@@subashgrg4666agreed, van der sar was a blessing in disguise when he arrived

Overstated*

@@saaiemedia726 ah yes, that’s what I meant. thanks 😅

I wish there was a way to have both vds and eth making decisions and in the locker room, we’d have one of the top staffs in the prem

@@Messi-Only Definitely! I think they will give us a clear vision of where we want to go in terms of restructuring the club and managing our players

@@hokleung266 very true, united and dutchmen have been an dangerous pair since the beginning of time lol

@Messi Videos Since Man city is replicating the same kind of system of Barcelona, maybe we can follow a similar system of Ajax. It might work, who knows, lol

@@hokleung266 we need Tammy to finish the job bro. We should have kept lakaka. internet jokes aside, he was the best 9 we had since Zlatan before his injury. Cavani was a bit too slow and seasoned but with Tammy we have a true threat in the centre of the box

That’s the Dutch way😂 Direct

He is Dutch. It is normal there.

True

Now there are too much undisciplined players

What? In football terms, being a ManU player is amazing in 2023. They're the 3th or 4th team in the hardest competition in all of football. If you play for ManU you are guaranteed a starting spot on your country's football team, you play Champion's League and you play multiple finals. I don't know why u imply it doesn't mean something. I would dfeinitely want to be a ManU playef

​@@maxk880there bottles outside of Ten Hag, Casemiro, Varane and Martinez the team is replaceable i don't trust them.

You could say that the type of players we have and signed over last few years are reflection of the Utd board … the discipline and professionalism has been severely lacking from top down

These people do it on purpose. They only ever mention his work ethic so as to disguise an insult as a compliment. Notice that he used the word "forced", insinuating that Ronaldo has no right to be considered one of the greats. The truth is that Ronaldo has always been extremely talented, which is the very reason that he caught the eye of the biggest clubs at a young age, and these fools act as if Ronaldo has never been capable of being anything more than a goal scorer. They like to just ignore the first 10 years of his career because it doesn't fit their narrative.

Naturally talented is the most cliched term in modern football. There is no such thing!! it’s all learned skill/behaviour, a toddler isn’t naturally talented at football are they?? you have to teach them how to kick the ball dribble the ball etc etc…. Even Messi was thought to score goals as a child for a reward… one of his earliest coaches gave him a biscuit/cookie🍪 for every goal he scored that was reward and motivation to score more goals.

​​​@@michaelinho7366 wrong, natural ability is definitely a thing but u think of it in the wrong way. Natural talent isnt just comin out the womb being able to beat past defenders. Natural talent is the ability to pick up certain skills at a very fast rate. Think of it like this, naturally smart kids are not just born with more info in their brains but through reading they get to know this information but the difference with them and normal kids is that they have a natural ability to remember most of that information, which makes them more book smart naturally. Its just like football, messi and ronaldo and all the other greats, picked up on the skills in football a lot quicker than normal and were able to perfect certain things at a faster rate.

Exactly, if it was just easy as to train hard, then many other forwards would score at least 40-50 goals per season, while we don't see guys scoring that much. There are probably less than 4-5 guys doing that and maybe even lesser. Deco speaks about that too in an interview, that he doesn't agree with people seeing he's been that good just because he trains hard. He's pretty skilled, of course in United one of the assistant coaches told him to don't loose time with too much dribbling and being more consistent in front of the goal. But he was a pretty good dribbler too before that, and still showed some times that he could get passed 4-5 guys and score or assist.

Rooney had more natural talent then Ronaldo but difference was Ronaldo work ethic

hahahahahaha. When he was in Serie A, he had the balls of a pussy cat. Absolutely terrible.

Hey if I can ask, what is the other 4?

@@jaramczerwone2270 Buffon number one, Van der Sar in 2nd, 3rd Petr Cech, 4th Vitor Baia (i think he'd be ahead of 4th place if he hadn't been injured, he was crazy for some years before that) and Pagliuca. What would be your top 5 all time goalkeepers all of you guys ?

Goalies I saw .. Neuer who's the Messi of goalkeepers , Van Der Sar , Buffon, Cech pre that head injury and Casillas.

@@Nhilzer for me, van der Sar, Kahn, Rogerio Ceni, Buffon, Chilavert

@@polpol1005 Great choices, Ceni was insane, the guy was scoring more than some strikers did lol.

Other players know they can never be able to work as hard as Ronaldo to achieve his level, but for Messi, they know they will never be able to do what Messi does no matter how hard they work

@@codytruong7049 the same thing you just said about Messi can also be applied to Ronaldo….. your statement is so ignorant 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

Bro c'mon .. Ronaldo worked so much harder than Messi. Evidence? 1. Ronaldo trained his dribbling technique extensively. People call it useless tricks, but that's just being ignorant. Step-overs are very effective to get past defenders (ask R9) & to do them around your top-speed is not easy. Plus given that Ronaldo is a pretty tall dude (at least he's above average here in the US), to even move his legs that fast would require a lot of training (fast-twitch muscle fibers). Whereas Messi never needed to learn those skills; his low center of gravity helps him to be elusive against opponents taller than him. Messi definitely trained his touch, but that's just not as physically demanding as learning all those techniques are. 2. His knuckle-ball free-kick technique. This is an unorthodox way of taking free-kicks and if you ask any footballer they'd tell you its the most difficult shot to learn. The fact that Ronaldo has 60+ scored using this technique is just insane. Whereas Messi uses the orthodox technique of taking free-kicks: curling. Sure this also takes training, but its learning-curve (no pun intended) is no where close to that of the knuckleball technique. 3. Jump-height. There's no one out there (at least right now) that can jump off the ground & hang in the air as long or as high as CR7 in football. The amount of drills (box jumps, squats, other forms of resistance training) he probably does to obtain that skill must be quite impressive.

@@Gio-m I’m not doing this man. I never said Ronaldo didn’t work hard (or harder than Messi). My point is that his hard work was not the only reason for his success, as many people try to portray. Both Messi and Ronaldo had an unbelievable amount of talent. Extremely unique footballers. Just because you think Ronaldo worked harder than Messi (and I’m not disputing that claim) it doesn’t mean that’s the reason Ronaldo was successful. I would argue that Messi and Ronaldo are equally talented, just in their own ways.

@@Gio-m you’re just so far off because you didn’t actually read what I said. You’re literally arguing something that has nothing to do with that I said. Learn to interpret things properly 🤦🏻‍♂️

Defo Fergie had designed and maintained a fortress in the minds of the football world

To get where Messi or Ronaldo has got you need hard work and dedication and also that something extra and that's where talent comes in as a Messi fan I'll miss the both of them now there gone I'll just say for me what always made me gravitate towards Messi more was not the amount of goals but his assists and his range of passing and dribbling to me it's unparalleled.

Everyone says it because its patently obvious. Cristiano's is a great player talent wise, but he isn't anywhere near the greats from a talent & technical aspect. He isn't a Ronaldinho, a Zidane, a Best, Cruyff, Garrincha, etc. Even Baggio, Bergkamp etc I think are far more talented. Of course hard work & mentality is #1 & he had that more than anyone. Hence why he managed to vastly out perform his 'talent class' so to speak. There is sunshine when speaking about Messi because his talent is such. Just like I smile when watching my 2 fav's ever Maradona (goat) & Riquelme. Or Henry even as a Gooner.

@@bahriboy well written and I tend to agree with most you have written, one player that seems to have been forgotten is the great George Best .. PLUS Ronaldhinio is by far better than any of them including Messi …..

It's just Jake's ridiculous philosophizing again. He thinks he is the next Tony Robbins.

Cristiano Ronaldo is just as talented. His physical attributes make him stand out compared to other footballers. His pace, dribbling. shot power. heading. frame make him bolt to the top of the .01% of pro footballers.

Awesome!

Thats nice mate!

Ronaldo is more polarising player than Messi People champion 😅😅😅

It's Jake Humphries. The man is a bonafide idiot. Or did you expect him to say anything intelligent?

But he's not a pure naturally gifted footballer the calibre of Messi. Ronaldo like everyone says constantly working on his game, fitness, diet, everything. when most players have a some downtime he's in the gym. His game was based around speed and power he's never been elegant never been a elite dribbler and he's selfish.

@@leemc5646 Elite dribbler? Ronaldo was an elite dribbler at Man United. Else, why do you think in early 2007, he was being compared with Ronaldinho and Kaka, prompting Ronaldo to tell the media, he didn't think he was as good as those players yet. His game obviously did change when he joined Real Madrid, turning him into a sprint machine and maybe a better scorer too.

@@leemc5646 Mate, he was starting for Portugal and Manchester United at the age of 19..... How much more was he training then compared to everyone else? He was an immense talent from the jump. Plus, do you think that Messi also doesn't work on his game, fitness and diet? If you don't think he does then you're a fool.

@@oluronkedasilva5373Agree mate he was definitely a elite dribbler no doubt about that

Edwin cannot be compared to Peter!

Cannot be compared to Peter the goalkeeper who liked to get lobbed.

Why?

He destroyed Ajax and takes no responsibility.

How about putting people in this position with proper knowledge and experience?

I would say many today either already think they are before accomplishing anything or think they will be. While saying I want to be implies there is work to be done and room for improvement while the others are more of an entitled mentality.

Haaland ..vinicius ..saka probably that's it

No they can’t think that way because they’re crap!

garnacho maybe?

But not more gifted as messi.

inshallah

Footballers are proper snakes now

It's all business, there are more Manchester United fans around the world than in England, so do you think the club owners care about loyalty.

Think he’ll come back as a goalkeeper coach

He's getting on a bit now. But they do need a new keeper.

@@bobbypukes605 he means as like a director not a player 😂😂😂

Lol

Most Dutch people can speak English at a high level

The Dutch speak better English than we do

@@bramgoeting6771 Other than ETH😂

​@@jeffrman777can you speak a word of Dutch

me too

Ah, a Conhead!

Well he didn't do bad but when you have one or 2 bad seasons people will get fired

@@bruceyjustine7322 Here in The Netherlands the general consesus about him is he did not do a good job as director, it were mostly Overmars and Ten Hag who were the motors behind the success of Ajax.

@@tom.1 it was a team work

You never new working hard was good for you till you watched a KZfaq video 😂

@@MrThedonhead looool extras It was in terms of football especially with extra ability part. 😅

LOL CR7 WAS LIKE 18 YEAR OLD TINY KID . WTF ARE YOU SAYING BRUH☠

@@rogger972 in 2005 and 2007 he was 18? Try math. He got obliterated.

@@ciaronsmith4995 man has been playing for a long time on the highest level it's crazy

He a legend at all clubs he was at. Mainly ajax juve and unted

inshallah

Yeah he does, now at the same time see how ajax have faired the last year and why he's gone

He is a CEO though

We don’t need van der sar we need new fresh blood to create a new elite identity.

De Gea is no where near as good as him

Schmeichal?

De gea is the best keeper United have ever had. ❤

@@CEO786 when did you start watching football because there is no way you were watching United during the treble

Peter Schmeichel by a mile

Dribble whole defenders and paying refree😅

You simply havent watched enough football mate. VdS had his moments of mistakes

@jakedvarow I had a season ticket for all the time he was there. I stick to the post, 'I' can't remember a mistake.

@@davidcottam7431 then remember that game against West Brom when he couldnt handle a very harmless cross. the ball just went through his fingers dropping it there for us to lose 3pts

@@jakedvarow Unclench.

Is a dogma because it's really about working smart enough to learn and perform.

I agree with everything but just disagreed with your last sentence's last part unless I misunderstood you. In his position, you will not expect a regista like passing although he has done that as well. Watch when Ronaldo played in certain matches close to CM position and how he threaded passes between the lines and aerial passes. I'm not even counting his passing strengths which he was great (not as great as he later became) from around 18 years of age only, like counter attacking one-touch passes, crosses (both aerial and ground, including with a lethal curve) and neat flicks while dribbling and passes after runs and dribbles close to defenders' feet. Additionally, he could not show more of his passing because except for Van Nistelrooy, he was always the main goalscorer. Benzema and Higuain was supposed to be his strike partner but they couldn't turn up in goalscoring department in the initial Madrid days as well (look how many good passes Benzema missed which Ronaldo used to give, you can get compilations after compilations). And, of course, he wants to take the shot himself often for his own goal scoring as well. He also did them both with both of his feet, a huge assest and that's why he played easily in RM, LM, LW, RW. Reasons like this is why he proved to be versatile later as well, because having all these different attributes help you to adapt to different situations and against better teams, hence the difference between his UCL KO stats and the next best player's UCL KO stats. It goes without saying he played in great teams as well.

Was terrible at tackling, tracking back and couldn't control the game from midfield or anything. Kind of player that needs great players around him to look good

​@@MrThedonhead really... Did you see his first season back for United, surrounded by absolute bums.

kzfaq.infok59wsZl7rd4?feature=share4 I'm just saying... You overestimate your knowledge on it...

@@sterlingarcher2366 dont bother he a hater😭