Fort Sumter and the "Third System"

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The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

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@BillB23
@BillB23 3 жыл бұрын
My parents were married on April 12th. My dad often quipped that the date marked the start of two great conflicts.
@model-man7802
@model-man7802 3 жыл бұрын
I married my wife on July 1st for a reason.......1st day of Gettysburg 🤣
@gary4250
@gary4250 3 жыл бұрын
Your father has a wonderful sense of humor. Hopefully your mother appreciated his humor.
@BillB23
@BillB23 3 жыл бұрын
@@gary4250 The were married until death parted them. They were both always joking even when times were tough.
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@model-man7802Also Canada Day, eh?
@model-man7802
@model-man7802 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrPeteChannel absolutely👍
@ericwilkinson9447
@ericwilkinson9447 3 жыл бұрын
I am 56 years old and not embarrassed to say I owe all my knowledge on history to the history guy!!! I never paid much attention in school but then again I didn't have the history guy teaching me
@stenbak88
@stenbak88 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you are trying, I am 32 and have always been confuse why everyone doesn’t want to know history. The more history you know the less mistakes you make I truly believe that.
@nedludd7622
@nedludd7622 3 жыл бұрын
So why did you not pay attention and do the reading? Maybe you were just lazy. But for you, it is always the teacher's fault.
@richardtaylor6341
@richardtaylor6341 3 жыл бұрын
Good teachers matter.... and after a generation of focusing on STEM there are even less good history teachers now than ever.
@richardtaylor6341
@richardtaylor6341 3 жыл бұрын
@@stenbak88 not to mention an endless supply of good stories...
@richardtaylor6341
@richardtaylor6341 3 жыл бұрын
@@nedludd7622 maybe the readings werent adequate or interesting either. I have a degree in history, but my love of the subject was not gained in any k12 classroom, unfortunately. My passions grew out of my own personal reading selections. Which actually started mostly with sports biographies..but that lead to biographies generally, etc. I've found a passion for history is usually instilled through some passion you have, ie a hobby that younare presently engaged in, etc. But with such an immediate reaction I cant help but wonder if you arent one of those teachers who just doesnt get it and blames their students for not being passionate when the teacher doesnt know how to connect with them.... (Btw I had really bad grammar teachers and never gained a passion for that)
@dhannaecg
@dhannaecg 3 жыл бұрын
Raised on James Island, I spent many a summer day at Fort Sumter when I was in my early teens. A friend & myself would commandeer his fathers john boat and put in at the neighborhood boat landing, then run the creeks out to the harbor. It was free to tour the fort then, it was the boat ride from the city marina that cost you. 40 some odd years later we still talk about about that john boat & the places it took us. Castle Pinckney would be another fortification to do a story on. It sets a little further into the harbor on an Island named Shutes Folly & played a part in another confrontation South Carolina had with the Federal Government, The Nullification Crisis. Can't help but to be a history nerd growing up Charleston.
@RobinHood-1961
@RobinHood-1961 3 жыл бұрын
You think you know everything about history, then you watch your show. Love your show. I am addicted to it. Thank you.
@toddtouchberry
@toddtouchberry 2 жыл бұрын
Research Tuck Haynesworth. For the rest of the story lol
@stevenmullens511
@stevenmullens511 3 жыл бұрын
In 1985 my dad to us on a vacation we drove from Southern California to Florida to Disney world. After Disney world we went to South Carolina and to see Fort Sumter and other civil war battlefields. Fort Sumter was a great place filled with American history. 👮‍♂️
@localcrew
@localcrew 3 жыл бұрын
My gf and I just visited Charleston and we took the Park Service tour while there. Very interesting. Great tour guides. I highly recommend it to anyone.
@JohnDoe-pv2iu
@JohnDoe-pv2iu 3 жыл бұрын
As a child, I played at Battery park, in Charleston SC. That is where the bombardment, but not the very first shots, were fired from. I have visited Ft Sumter many times in my life. I am also proud to have stood at attention on the deck of a US Navy frigate leaving (and returning) to the Charleston Naval base... while passing Ft Sumter and other Naval ships. Most all of this military presence is gone from Charleston now, but it was a large part of the 20th century DETERRENT back in the 1980s. Great video. Take Care and be safe, John
@jasonteknut
@jasonteknut 3 жыл бұрын
The first shots were fired from fort Johnson on James Island, where the marine research labs, dnr, and a CofC campus reside, not downtown at battery park, but it’s a popular misconception. There’s a stone marking the site near the coast. I know this because I used to eat lunch next to it at a picnic table.
@dhannaecg
@dhannaecg 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonteknut Yep! Use to ride my bike there when I was a kid.
@JohnDoe-pv2iu
@JohnDoe-pv2iu 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonteknut I guess I misunderstood about the start of this. I remember it being said of the bombardment from the battery and didn't think of the other locations. Take Care and be safe, John
@DHMenke
@DHMenke 3 жыл бұрын
Major Robert Anderson is my 3rd cousin, 6 generations removed. I do a lot of family history, and after 50 years, I have concluded that I'm related to almost everybody (as we all are at some level). One of Anderson's sets of great-great-grandparents were William Williams (1665-1712) and Jael Harrison (1674-1734). This same couple was one my sets of 8 x great-grandparents. - Dr Dave Menke, Tucson. PS: history is far more interesting when one realizes one's relatives were part of history.
@refuge42
@refuge42 4 ай бұрын
😯🤩
@zach7193
@zach7193 3 жыл бұрын
The anniversary of the first shots of the Civil War. Man, the History Guy is right on top of things.
@johnlandes3322
@johnlandes3322 3 жыл бұрын
When you learn the history, you’re doomed to coordinate with it.
@firingallcylinders2949
@firingallcylinders2949 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas Jefferson's birthday tomorrow as well.
@EricDKaufman
@EricDKaufman 3 жыл бұрын
@@firingallcylinders2949 And Yuri Gargin's first flight into space
@BillB23
@BillB23 3 жыл бұрын
... and the anniversary of FDR's death.
@MrMatt1138
@MrMatt1138 3 жыл бұрын
@@EricDKaufman 40th Anniversary of the First Space Shuttle Launch as well. STS-1 "Columbia", which some years later was lost on re-entry along with all crew.
@richardmourdock2719
@richardmourdock2719 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, informed, educational and timely. Why we all love The History Guy!!
@raycast6277
@raycast6277 3 жыл бұрын
well said!
@stevedietrich8936
@stevedietrich8936 3 жыл бұрын
Good Morning THG. I visited Fort Sumter, and the beautiful city of Charleston, in 2014. The NPS tour out to Ft. Sumter is interesting and well worth taking.
@toddtouchberry
@toddtouchberry 2 жыл бұрын
Who did they say fired the first shot? I haven't done the tour in a while although we visit the Holy city often as we live in Sumter
@stevedietrich8936
@stevedietrich8936 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddtouchberry It's been a long time since the tour and my memory can be shaky in the best of times, but as I recall there were some CSA cadets manning a battery that let the first salvo fly.
@toddtouchberry
@toddtouchberry 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevedietrich8936 research Tuck Haynesworth (we live in Sumter)
@RobertKFall
@RobertKFall 3 жыл бұрын
Fort Point at the Presidio of San Francisco, CA is a sister to Fort Sumter. It can be seen underneath the southern anchorage of the Golden Gate Bridge.
@gorflunk
@gorflunk 3 жыл бұрын
That is an interesting place to visit, I bet most tourists don't even realize it's down there.
@nameinvalid69
@nameinvalid69 3 жыл бұрын
my normal interest is actually something else totally unrelated to history; but when any new video of this channel pops out on the front page : **CLICKS WITHOUT ANY DOUBT*
@legoeasycompany
@legoeasycompany 3 жыл бұрын
Its always nice to see something local talked about by the History guy. Also fun historical tidbit, the resupply ship was named Star of the West and it was driven off by the cadets of the local military college the Citadel, who fired across the bow and forced star of the west to turn back. The ship's crew praised the cadets for their gunnery
@bualeegrasse2380
@bualeegrasse2380 3 жыл бұрын
There is star on The Citadel cadet graduate ring commemorating the firing upon the Star of the West.
@dhannaecg
@dhannaecg 3 жыл бұрын
George E. Haynsworth was the Cadets name. James Islander here.
@bloodybones63
@bloodybones63 3 жыл бұрын
The actual first shots of the war.
@kathyhester3066
@kathyhester3066 3 жыл бұрын
My interest in Fort Sumter & Charleston really started 20 some years ago. My son was in the Navy & was stationed in Charleston. Move forward some 25 yrs. & I now have a grandson who is in the Navy & is at this moment stationed in Charleston. A beautiful city w/a rich history. Thank you for today's timely lesson.
@toddtouchberry
@toddtouchberry 2 жыл бұрын
Visit the Hunley??
@leeegg7627
@leeegg7627 3 жыл бұрын
The battle of Athens Tennessee is history that deserves to be remembered
@f3xpmartian
@f3xpmartian 3 жыл бұрын
Ah! I like this episode. Most of us are familiar with Fort Sumter, it's Civil War history. But not Sumter's pre-civil war history, and how it came to be. Thank you Mr. The History Guy, Todays assignment is for me to find out what the forts are at 9:05 and 9:49, and their history. Thank you and Good Day to You. 😃
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel 3 жыл бұрын
9:05 is Fort Jefferson: www.nps.gov/drto/learn/historyculture/fort-jefferson.htm. 9:49 is Fort Clinch: www.floridastateparks.org/fortclinch
@stenbak88
@stenbak88 3 жыл бұрын
So much American history at that site it gives me chills to think of all that happened before our amazing country was torn apart and after
@navret1707
@navret1707 3 жыл бұрын
The next civil war will be much worse.
@dirus3142
@dirus3142 3 жыл бұрын
We have been tearing ourselves apart for the past six years. The violence is bubbling up. Our elected leadership is fostering it, or ignoring it. They are tearing down law enforcement to help it.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
@@dirus3142 The seeds for what looms ahead were sown at least as far back as the 1960s.
@greaseman01
@greaseman01 3 жыл бұрын
Yuri gagarin went into space today as well. FDR died on this date. It is also my birthday today.
@DgurlSunshine
@DgurlSunshine 3 жыл бұрын
My Birthday too Happy Birthday Aries
@657449
@657449 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday
@greaseman01
@greaseman01 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you guys
@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 3 жыл бұрын
yep, and a few more dates in history
@portecrayon4083
@portecrayon4083 3 жыл бұрын
Best of the day to you.
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 3 жыл бұрын
Coastal defense and the coastal artillery so vital to that defense are long overlooked topics of American military history. A visit to any one of these historic sites quickly conjures up images of what life behind those thick walls must have been like for the soldiers stationed there, be they Spanish, English, French, or American.
@tap0019
@tap0019 3 жыл бұрын
I just toured the South Carolina State Museum. I did not know until last weekend that South Carolina was the first state to succeed from the Union. South Carolina was on it's own for four months until other states joined them in succession from the Union. The timing of this video is perfect! Thank you
@toddtouchberry
@toddtouchberry 2 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the museum in Columbia?
@h2p6
@h2p6 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I always enjoy the little known stories behind those we know so well that you bring. Well done! On pronunciation, I suggest Kościuszko as “koh-SHOOSH-koh”.
@Duckless23
@Duckless23 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see it spelled correctly. The largest "mountain" in Australia is named for him but nobody there pronounces it correctly. His statue to commemorate his contribution to the war of independence used to be outside the Whitehouse. He left quite a legacy
@naustin4881
@naustin4881 3 жыл бұрын
My best History teachers were just like the History Guy - Great storytellers. Presenting history as the complicated interesting stories that they are is so much more relatable than they way most people are taught!
@bucknaykid5821
@bucknaykid5821 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Simms was my favorite History teacher in school. We opened the book on the fist day then put it under the desk and took notes the rest of the year. He captivated us with his stories of History and gave us a feeling that we were there and a part of it.
@dirus3142
@dirus3142 3 жыл бұрын
My best history teacher was in my local community collage. He had good textbooks, and lectures. He prompted his class with questions, many of them aimed towards considering the point of view of a person at the time. If you were a upper class woman why would you NOT support the suffrage movement? If you were a poor southern farmer why would you support, or not support, succession.
@tenhirankei
@tenhirankei 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing about this has given me the idea that I might go visit the place.
@dorightal4965
@dorightal4965 3 жыл бұрын
Having visited the fort with my grandson (pre-covid), I found the more extensive history to be enlightening. The presentations of THG make what was once a dry accumulation of dates and actions much more relevant to me. Thank you, THG!
@edwelty
@edwelty 3 жыл бұрын
I visited there once and it was fascinating to see where the war seriously began.
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in Florida and have visited both Ft. Pickens in Pensacola and Ft. Clinch in Jacksonville. Both from this era.
@windborne8795
@windborne8795 3 жыл бұрын
Key West's Fort Zachary Taylor, Dry Tortuga's Fort Jefferson(?) and the fort in Saint Augustine are also great Florida forts. 👍🏻🇺🇸
@panzerabwerkanone
@panzerabwerkanone 3 жыл бұрын
You should also attend the reenactment of the battle of Olustee, Fl. It is one of the last battles of the Civil War.
@4351steve
@4351steve 3 жыл бұрын
There is almost unknown Navy group that played a key roll in World War 11 in the Pacific. The “On The Roof Gang (OTRG)” was a group of Navy and Marine radio operators that were trained in the process of receiving Japanese coded radio transmissions. Their name came from were they received their training from 1928 to the start of the war. A small classroom was built on the top of the Navy Department in DC. My uncle was a member of this group.
@HM2SGT
@HM2SGT 3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing a piece on the great stone face, New Hampshire's old man of the mountain and the man who spent many years maintaining the rock formation, Niels Nielsen? The anniversary of the end of the old man of the mountain, a rock formation that persisted for thousands if not tens of thousands of years is coming up on 3rd May. It is definitely history that deserves to be remembered.
@Maxaldojo
@Maxaldojo 3 жыл бұрын
One of my bucket list items that is not there anymore... Great suggestion! Niels is with the Old Man, to this day...
@chocolatechip12
@chocolatechip12 3 жыл бұрын
Seconded! Great idea.
@Chris_at_Home
@Chris_at_Home 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that face. As a kid of about 10 we used to visit a cabin near there in the early 60s. I had an old 110 black and white film camera and somewhere have a picture of it. It was sad to hear it broke apart.
@chocolatechip12
@chocolatechip12 3 жыл бұрын
I want to add, Niels Nielsen came to my elementary school to teach us about the Old Man and how his family cared for it. I still remember how nice he was, and how passionate about his work. He was a great caretaker and a great educator, too.
@HM2SGT
@HM2SGT 3 жыл бұрын
Niels was a friend of the family, tickled and grateful that he is remembered, especially so fondly. I used to love looking for the old man every time we drove through the notch when I was a kid. If you have the opportunity to visit, nowadays there is a very nice Memorial; you can pull off the Kank & there are plates with cutouts arranged in such a manner that you can still see the old man...
@rotorheadv8
@rotorheadv8 3 жыл бұрын
Was just out to Ft Sumter and the Hunley last weekend.
@billhiggins-ha4all795
@billhiggins-ha4all795 3 жыл бұрын
Some Forts approaching Portland Maine still exist. In the late 60s and early 70s I enjoyed exploring inside the ones at cape Elizabeth and some islands. Look at the history of Fort Williams.
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Civil War history is no longer being taught or "changed". Thanks for this unbiased history lesson.
@grantsmythe8625
@grantsmythe8625 3 жыл бұрын
You can examine online the history textbook for any state in the Union. Simply choose the state, then begin your search. There are no secrets in public education. It's all online.
@LordFalconsword
@LordFalconsword 3 жыл бұрын
@@grantsmythe8625 And those books are full of inaccuracies, and outright lies.
@grantsmythe8625
@grantsmythe8625 3 жыл бұрын
@@LordFalconsword Really? So first you claim that history isn't being taught and when you're called on it you change to "Well, its taught but there are errors in the books. So you've read some of them? Tell us, which ones have you, give the publisher and the error.
@christopherwedemeyer2993
@christopherwedemeyer2993 3 жыл бұрын
@grant smythe: online information is easily manipulated and thus fallible. Also: just because it is online doesn't mean it is being taught. The first slaves in the US where white Irish. The most slaves were Chinese. The reparations movement is horseshit. Ronald Regan was the best president ever. Second best was Trump.
@grantsmythe8625
@grantsmythe8625 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherwedemeyer2993 Well I probably wasn't clear about the online comment. There is an online copy of the textbooks that the kids have in the classroom. Lesson plans are online too. Often, students' work from previous years is online as well. As for the reparations issue, I have mixed feelings about it. Reagan was somewhat above average while the president of Trump University is at the bottom.
@joshuadarrow
@joshuadarrow 3 жыл бұрын
I can attest, the combination of fort moultrie, fort Sumter, and the museum ship USS Yorktown at patriot’s point make for an interesting series of tours, covering US naval and costal defense history spanning from the Revolution all the way to the Second World War. To say nothing of the various other museums and historical sites in and around the Charleston area.
@bloodybones63
@bloodybones63 3 жыл бұрын
We entered a WWII diesel submarine that was moored beside the Yorktown about 15 years ago. Always wanted to do that.
@caseyoconnor4928
@caseyoconnor4928 3 жыл бұрын
Long time viewer first time commenter --- really appreciate the format and delivery of these videos. I would suggest a long-form documentary on a specific and forgotten event in US history. Some suggestions would include the Colorado sheep-cattle wars, Maine-Canadian timber conflict, or the blizzard of 1892 and recession of 1893. Will watch for years to come hopefully, with likely no comments (sorry for that, I know the love of algorithms).
@glypnir
@glypnir 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that things like the third system were why the Civil War occurred when it did. Before the 1860s, the USA was very vulnerable to pressure or attack from England or France. We had to hang together, or we might be hung separately. By 1861, we had a good chance of fighting amongst ourselves without other countries being able to take over one part or another. So we did. I remember a Yugoslav English teacher who stayed at our house while taking a 3 month course at the local university. She said that the only thing keeping Yugoslavia together was fear of the USSR. This seems to have been accurate. She was a Bosnian married to a Serb. She ended up migrating to the USA, because she wasn’t particularly welcome anywhere in the former Yugoslavia. Their loss.
@xvsj-s2x
@xvsj-s2x 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Content 👍🇺🇸 Thank you for sharing THG !
@Tony-db3ey
@Tony-db3ey 3 жыл бұрын
Fort Jefferson on Dry Tortugas would make for an excellent episode. There was a famous prisoner held there.
@mf1ve
@mf1ve 3 жыл бұрын
You know, I've never heard the subject of the fort itself discussed. Bravo!
@barryallenflash1
@barryallenflash1 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Nice one, today being the anniversary, you NAILED IT!! Hey, not sure if you're familiar with Ft. Lewis, Washington, but there's some history there. I spent 10 of my 14 years there and I have to say, it's a pretty impressive Fort. It's now called JBLM, they merged Ft. Lewis (Army) with McChord (Air Force)....sooo Joint Base Lewis McChord. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me either, but whattya do!! Thanks as always for making another great video, keep 'em comin'!!
@swiss.2916
@swiss.2916 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a resident of Leavenworth KS. You should do an episode on the history of fort Leavenworth and it’s role today in the US military and that of our allies. It’s fascinating and almost no one outside of the town and military knows what it’s role is today.
@gorflunk
@gorflunk 3 жыл бұрын
Supermax?
@GraemePayne1967Marine
@GraemePayne1967Marine 3 жыл бұрын
@@gorflunk Fort Leavenworth is much more than just the military and Federal prisons. Lots of other stuff there.
@swiss.2916
@swiss.2916 3 жыл бұрын
@@gorflunk we dont have a super max but we do have 7 prisons in town 2 of which are military prisons on the Fort. The forts primary mission is to train senior officers in command and war fighting. All of our allies send officers also. Pretty much any captain or better has been here. There is a wall of fame for our allies and sometimes individuals have to be removed, like Manuel Noriega.
@GraemePayne1967Marine
@GraemePayne1967Marine 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. We lived in the Charleston area more than 20 years, yet I still learned new-to-me things about Fort Sumter.
@timwatson3879
@timwatson3879 3 жыл бұрын
..once again a great telling, and the name Abner Doubleday caught my attention, although he never admitted to inventing the game of baseball as has been bestowed upon him, he did design and patent the cable car system in San Francisco!
@blacksmith67
@blacksmith67 3 жыл бұрын
As always, excellent! Thank you.
@v.e.7236
@v.e.7236 3 жыл бұрын
THG always gets my Thumbs Up. My thrice weekly dose of AM protocol, w/ a hot cup of Joe and a smile on my face. Thank you THG Team, for your efforts on our behalves.
@Worthrhetime
@Worthrhetime 3 жыл бұрын
Simply one of the best consistent presentation on anywhere. Thank you.
@jessehayes486
@jessehayes486 3 жыл бұрын
A wonderful way to spend an early Monday morning. Thanks THG!
@TomSpurlock
@TomSpurlock 3 жыл бұрын
Nice summary of Sumter, we were there last week touring the fort. Impressive stories, sad history.
@jdlives8992
@jdlives8992 3 жыл бұрын
It’s haunted too. We camped there on scouts. Late 80’s. Was scary hearing noises all night.
@djrbaker1
@djrbaker1 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed the audio is far better now... Great quality videos
@Sagwax
@Sagwax 3 жыл бұрын
You should research the other fort knox in maine. Good story about appropriating military funds. Love your show. We listen at work every day
@stephen1991
@stephen1991 3 жыл бұрын
I've visited the fort, and I was surprised that they held out for as long as they did. They were semi surrounded by the coast and islands, with no relief in sight.
@madjackblack5892
@madjackblack5892 3 жыл бұрын
Great topic. Please do one on Ft. Drum (AKA the Concrete Battleship), Corregidor and the other works the US constructed to protect Manila Bay.
@catjudo1
@catjudo1 3 жыл бұрын
I hope that The History Guy continues to deliver these great oft-forgotten episodes in history for us to enjoy. Unlike the politicians and the conspiratorial skeptics, The History Guy brings together people from different places and backgrounds in the spirit of learning about the world we all live in. Is there a permanent History Cat now who may make the channel even better?
@johnasbury9915
@johnasbury9915 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another wonderful recitation of the history of our country.
@6mm250
@6mm250 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you would do an episode on the Shelton Laurel massacre , it's a bit of Civil War history that deserves to be remembered.
@rnedlo9909
@rnedlo9909 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for presenting the history of this subject with a base as good, metaphorically, as the subject's foundation!
@lexington476
@lexington476 3 жыл бұрын
Love this episode, I’ve always been interested in static defenses.
@davemoore6690
@davemoore6690 3 жыл бұрын
MR G: Well done Sir! While the American civil war actually started years earlier in Bloody Kansas, your account of the Third System is definitely history worth remembering! Everyone should stand in the ruins of FT Sumter today and imagine those awful 72 hours of constant bombardment.
@johncox2865
@johncox2865 3 жыл бұрын
Awful hours that could have been avoided had they simply left when offered the opportunity. Nothing in the Constitution forbade any State from seceding then. Nor is there any prohibition now. Indeed, none of the original 13 states would have signed or ratified such a provision.
@davemoore6690
@davemoore6690 3 жыл бұрын
@@johncox2865 Perhaps you are correct; there was some debate at the founding about secession, just without agreement. With all due respect, Sir, had the Federals permitted the south to secede, the unconscionable blight of human slavery would have continued to fester "next door," and I suggest would have eventually led to blows. A righteous man cannot live peacefully next door to a wife beater. Let's be clear, the "rights" that concerned southern secessionists were property rights over fellow human beings. I've just been reading a fascinating book, "The Peace That Almost Was: The Forgotten Story of the 1861 Washington Peace Conference and the Final Attempt to Avert the Civil War" by Mark Tooley. In this book, Tooley demonstrates that the property rights arguments of the slave-holding members is clearly the driving force behind secession.
@johncox2865
@johncox2865 3 жыл бұрын
@@davemoore6690 Slavery was not the basic issue. However, it neither began nor ended in the American South. Are you aware that slavery continued unabated in the North long after Emancipation? I repeat, the South was Constitutionally justified in secession. If the tables were turned, would not the North have done the same? I remind you that, before Emancipation, the war was intensely unpopular in the North. Lincoln only turned to the moral issue after realizing that he would fail re-election, if not face military defeat, unless the war could be popularized.
@johncox2865
@johncox2865 3 жыл бұрын
@@davemoore6690 And, I readily admit to being a Recovering Racist, having been born white and male in Birmingham, AL in the very middle of the 20th century. I voted against Roy Moore and for Joe Biden, the first Democratic votes I have ever cast. The reasoning behind my opinions of the war have nothing to do with racism, for I have discovered myself to be a member of an even more hated minority.
@johncox2865
@johncox2865 3 жыл бұрын
@@davemoore6690 I will not argue the morality of slavery. The only point I am making here is that the South had Constitutional justification for secession. In particular, the document is a legal contract between the subscribing states. Clearly, the Union violated that contract.
@Ladysensei
@Ladysensei 4 ай бұрын
163 years ago today here in Charleston, SC. Ft Sumter still brings so much tourism and fascination and shows people today that this really happened!
@jimfleming3975
@jimfleming3975 3 жыл бұрын
South Carolina seceded from the Union on December 20, 1860. On January 9, 1861, the ship " Star of the West" attempted to resupply Fort Sumter and was driven off by cannon fire. The shots were fired by cadets from the Citadel. These were the first shots it the Civil War.
@julians7268
@julians7268 3 жыл бұрын
I'd really love to see a video that talks about Fort Fisher. Love the channel and hope all is well with you and yours.
@robertholmberg6485
@robertholmberg6485 3 жыл бұрын
I learn so much from the History Guy! And I LOVE it!
@jliller
@jliller 3 жыл бұрын
I have noticed very strange habit of some folks who insist on spelling the fort's name "Sumpter" even though it is clearly named after Thomas SUMTER.
@jrt818
@jrt818 3 жыл бұрын
That is som(p)thing to think about.
@annebishop9634
@annebishop9634 3 жыл бұрын
There is the same problem with Clemson University. Many people say Clempson.
@marktrain9498
@marktrain9498 3 жыл бұрын
The accommodations were quite sumptuous.
@idolhanz9842
@idolhanz9842 3 жыл бұрын
Guilty as charged, but I reformed.
@charlesfoehner2598
@charlesfoehner2598 3 жыл бұрын
I seem to recall a sumpter was someone involved with provisioning the army.
@nedludd7622
@nedludd7622 3 жыл бұрын
Back then it was the Secretary of War when it was really the Secretary of Defense. Nowadays it is the Secretary of Defense when it is really the Secretary of War.
@dougearnest7590
@dougearnest7590 3 жыл бұрын
So you're saying (back then) the U.S. was fighting a "defensive" war by invading the Confederacy and forcibly retaining sovereign states which had elected to leave a voluntary union of sovereign states?
@dougearnest7590
@dougearnest7590 3 жыл бұрын
So I receive a notification in which you call me a racist and accuse me of not watching the video. I guess you missed the memo, but this channel is about history -- meaning facts - stuff that's real. I would ask what you're doing here, but I'm sure you don't know, so instead I'll give you a little free advice: Your puppetmasters only expect you to DRINK the Kool-Aid - you don't have to give yourself enemas with the stuff. You're welcome.
@nedludd7622
@nedludd7622 3 жыл бұрын
@@dougearnest7590 One who defends the Confederacy is defending the use of African slaves and thus is a racist.
@matthewpoplawski8740
@matthewpoplawski8740 3 жыл бұрын
WOW!! This was an OUTSTANDING VIDEO!! I live in Charleston, S.C.,and, have taken the boat ride out to Ft. Sumter. The Park Service people were NEVER this informative. I had no idea about the third system (much less the first or second) until I saw this. When conducting training to give tours at Ft.Sumter, your video should be used as a training tool. Interesting quote from Branch Rickey when asked if he thought Abner Doubleday invented baseball...THE ONLY THING ABNER DOUBLEDAY DID WAS START THE CIVIL WAR!! BTW, he didn't invent baseball. Keep up the good work THE HISTORY GUY. Also learned from watching the history of Blossom Rock(the actual rock not the late actress).
@toddtouchberry
@toddtouchberry 2 жыл бұрын
I wish he included info on Tuck Haynesworth
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 3 жыл бұрын
Again, another great watch. Great visuals and narration. Thanks History Guy.
@pamelamays4186
@pamelamays4186 3 жыл бұрын
A stack of multicolored Post It Notes. Quite an interesting historical artifact!
@yinglyca1
@yinglyca1 3 жыл бұрын
Good vids! Please do a story on "Baron von Steuben", Who ,Trained the American troops. Without him ,We would all be in trouble.. And he was not even a Baron.
@robertburkland9659
@robertburkland9659 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact. When President Lincoln first received the message that shots had been fired at Fort Sumter he balled that paper up and said "Oh no you didn't" before basketball shooting it to trash.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 3 жыл бұрын
It is impossible that anyone could wad up a piece of paper and throw it into a trash receptacle prior to 1891, the year basketball was invented. 😄 Don’t worry, I’m joking.
@GraemePayne1967Marine
@GraemePayne1967Marine 3 жыл бұрын
Charleston is also known as the place where the Ashley and Cooper rivers join to form the Atlantic Ocean.
@georgefitzhugh6455
@georgefitzhugh6455 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your historical updates. Very enlightening
@tomfrazier1103
@tomfrazier1103 3 жыл бұрын
Fort Point, San Francisco Cal. I toured/visited it in the early 1980s. M. Vauban? Fort Point was part of the system of red brick forts of 1855 to defend San Francisco. The prison on Alcatraz was built on red brick fort foundations. There were other forts around the bay and it's entrances. The fortifications at Los Angeles and Honolulu are "Taft era" ones, also in Panama and Manila.
@GrinderCB
@GrinderCB 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. As a Civil War buff I'm often disappointed in the lack of details about some of its battles. How and why was Ft. Sumter built? Who was it named after? Why did Anderson surrender so soon? Excellent video.
@refuge42
@refuge42 4 ай бұрын
I am pretty well versed in Civil War history and I'm taken a back that all this history somehow managed to allude me. What a cool site I will definitely subscribe and start scrolling through all of these tidbits of the past! ❤
@Gene1954
@Gene1954 3 жыл бұрын
There is a great misnomer in this video, the war that was conducted in the early 1860s was a failed war of southern independence not a "civil war". The southern states had no desire to rule the north, they only wanted to rule themselves. It was the north that wanted to rule the south.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel 3 жыл бұрын
While there is some academic discussion, in the field of polemology a civil war does not require a fight for control of a central government. Fights for regional independence are generally considered to be civil wars in both academic and geopolitical parlance. Moreover, the leadership of the Confederacy themselves referred to the war as a civil war at the time. In the north the war was more often referred to as a "rebellion," but in the field of polemology a rebellion that rises to the level of a war is also called a civil war. Too, the term "civil war" was still commonly used in the North as well, evidenced by Lincoln's reference to "a great civil war" in the address at Gettysburg. In brief, the claim that the term is a misnomer generally relies on generic dictionary definitions, which can vary. But the American Civil War was a civil war by both the historic and academic use of the term. Most importantly, the people involved in the conflict referred to it as a civil war at the time.
@au7-721
@au7-721 3 жыл бұрын
Lincoln wanted that war. Freeing slaves was just an excuse and a way to put a righteous face on their aggression.
@Gene1954
@Gene1954 3 жыл бұрын
@@au7-721 Freeing the slaves was a much easier sell to someone about to possible go off and die than than telling someone they are fighting to protect and promote northern commercial interests. History is always written by the victors.
@annvictor9627
@annvictor9627 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a girl in the 1960s and my Dad was stationed at what was then called "Andrews Air Force Base," one of our favorite places to visit was Fort Washington, one of the beneficiaries of the War of 1812 pointing out the need for better fortifications.
@dougearnest7590
@dougearnest7590 3 жыл бұрын
Since we're on the subject of civil wars, I'd love to see an episode on an operation that occurred during the Civil War of 1775-1783 - specifically, Henry Knox's capture and subsequent transport to Washington's army of the British artillery from Fort Ticonderoga. Another subject for consideration: _ _ _ _ _ . _ . . . . . _ . _ . _ _ _ _ . . . Otherwise known as Morse Code. Many thanks.
@kevinmccool7845
@kevinmccool7845 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to hear the story of Fort Pulaski. Love the History Guy...
@51WCDodge
@51WCDodge 3 жыл бұрын
Rockets red Glare. The inhabitants of Woolwhich South London, home of the Arsenal where they were made, had good reason to worry about that! The town was hit by them on a number of occasions :-)
@BuzzSargent
@BuzzSargent 3 жыл бұрын
Another great story of American History. Thanks
@tindjin07
@tindjin07 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had a picture of it but in 6th grade for a project I created a 2ft x 2 ft model of Ft Sumter.
@anthonymiller8989
@anthonymiller8989 3 жыл бұрын
Tony & Susan here, Vary impressive dissertation of the events. As always.
@TheEphemeris
@TheEphemeris 3 жыл бұрын
It's said the most successful forts of all time, have never been attacked. This they completed their task perfectly
@franknicholson6108
@franknicholson6108 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting as usual Thanks for the info
@georgehartshorn9018
@georgehartshorn9018 Жыл бұрын
Thank you again for the great history lesson.
@uncletiggermclaren7592
@uncletiggermclaren7592 Жыл бұрын
If you stop the play at 2:37 you can see "Chevaux de firse underwater" written. This was a French term, which "literally" meant "Horse from Friesland" which sounds innocuous and almost pleasant. What it was, was almost the very thing in the whole world that was LEAST innocuous and pleasant. It was a siege tool for defense. You made them before the siege started, and kept them on the walls of your fort, strategically place where they could be rushed to any possible breach in the wall. They were long heavy beams of wood, with "Legs" at each end that held them up off the ground, so the hundred sword blades you had fixed to them at all angles projected out from waist height. When the breach was made, and the troops were running to pass into your fort, you threw the "horse" down into the hole. And the mass of troops couldn't stop, and as they cut themselves to pieces, you could fire down onto the struggling mass. So they had one in the water to welcome swimming troops. :)
@ronstill3868
@ronstill3868 3 жыл бұрын
I really do like your videos. Your presentation and voice is easy to fallow and understand. And you alas have some information in them that's new to me. Thank you.
@russwoodward8251
@russwoodward8251 3 жыл бұрын
great research once again. Thanks!
@1990Co
@1990Co Жыл бұрын
‘Alleigance’ written by David Detzer has been a great book about Maj Anderson and Fr Sumter. The first chapter blew my find just kind of putting the town of Charleston into context. The more you learn about slavery the stranger it is honestly.
@bucknaykid5821
@bucknaykid5821 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great lesson in History. Could you please tell the forgotten tale of the cadets from The Citadel who actually fired he first shots of the Civil War with their cannon as they drove off the Supply ship which was I believe The Star of the West.
@teresaconley7753
@teresaconley7753 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your input into the Fort Moultie during the rev war, in particular about the material it was made of and why it wasn't defeated:) We first heard the story on a carriage ride in Charleston years ago:)
@toddtouchberry
@toddtouchberry 2 жыл бұрын
Those carriage rides are fun. Did They mention that the cannonballs were absorbed into the palmetto trees because they were nearly rubber like?
@Aramis419
@Aramis419 3 жыл бұрын
While they didn't know each other at the time, but (once upon a time) I had access to the archives at Gettysburg and found that both sides of my father's family fought side-by-side during the war. Norristown, PA, REPRESENT!!!
@zororosario
@zororosario 3 жыл бұрын
Good video always with class and fine details! Thanks.
@idolhanz9842
@idolhanz9842 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Charlestonian, I live in California and my Officer son is in Sumter South Carolina tonight.
@GotHoai
@GotHoai 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, i went to the University of South Carolina and I just now learned why our mascot is the South Carolina Gamecocks
@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music
@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music 3 жыл бұрын
Did they teach you ANYTHING?
@mbabist01
@mbabist01 3 жыл бұрын
I you want to see what Ft. Sumter looked like before it was pounded into ruin, check out Ft. Point in San Francisco, which was built on the same plan as Sumter. Location? See that little arch on the Golden Gate Bridge? Ft. Point is under the arch.
@greyangelpilot
@greyangelpilot 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize how many generations it took for Ft. Sumter to be completed, or almost completed. Well done story, capping the Anniversary of the dubious creation of the Third System. Looks like the military industrial complex has some a long way from the era of Civil War defense !
@62forged
@62forged 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks.
@lanceferraro3781
@lanceferraro3781 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago I lived in Charleston. Took an aluminum skiff with an outboard to Fort Sumpter, landed and debarked like troopers and later retreated to our boat and left. The military academy, the Citadel, is in Charleston and talking with a Citadel fan he told me that cadets, middle and high school age kids, were in the front line of that first bombardment. So, when I taught the Civil War I told my students that kids their age fired the first shots in the Civil War, eliciting sly smirks from a few.
@charlesjanuska3562
@charlesjanuska3562 3 жыл бұрын
You should look into James Elliott Williams who was the most highly decorated man in the navy during Vietnam. If you read the story it seems like something from a movie. The man was my second cousin, my mother's cousin. Love your channel and watch every episode. Thanks for all you do.
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