Naw patches did that when he help you at the end of the ringed city and fights alongside us as brothers.

@@TheHarrisontempleYeah but dude didn’t beat any allegations, he still messed with us time and time again

@@shaunhal1936 yeah but your character is immortal it's no big deal lmao i get it though

Looking at you, Aldrich.

He went from Pedo to a really nice and chill guy that slaves frogs...

Thats what i love about it. Its a simple concept but they executed it extremely well,

Dude, Ansbach is also still a murderer and a downright sociopath. Pretty sure one of his weapon descriptions state that he tore people apart with his bare hands and he says that the fight with Leda reinvograted his "spirit of war". I love Ansbach as much as the next guy, but the whole point of ER is that no one is clean.

​@@thesnatcher3616in that world you have to do that shit though. We are putting our morality on this shit. It's like animals, they have to kill to survive, we don't look at them as unclean or bad, they do what they need to in order to survive.

@@brandonwhite4992 Copium. Ansbach was evil and so was Mohg. We just gonna sit and here forget that Mohg's cult sacrifices people in blood rituals for the formless mother? Or that Mohg wanted to turn the world into what Mohgwyn Palace is? That place is straight nightmare fuel t

​@@guighee7310 how many have we the tarnished killed to become elden lord, literaly everything and everyone but specific fellow tarnished and certain people who do not fight us, we are probably worse if we get to that

Stop fantasizing about Ansbach and the Pureblood Knights, they are evil af lol

Perfect reference

i was making my way around the storeroom killing all the noob shadows and goblins pretty absentmindedly. suddenly (and accidentally) attacked Ansbach because he sort of just blended into the environment and when i heard someone talking i was like "oh ****" and immediately turned around and ran away towards the site of grace, desperate to lose aggro. never have i teleported to the church of vows faster than that day. didn't even say hello to turtle pope, just instant absolution.

And boy howdy did we ever die. Took me over 100 attempts to win out.

same

😂

Well, I don't want to say this but Mohg oneshot combos you with his ritual if you don't have the spell so I say it's fair game in the eyes of Ansbach.

​@@zeppelincraft1443 not true. if you actually try out the fight and don't go the comet azur route, which is for noobs anyway, there are several things you can do to kill mohg without succumbing to his bloodflame spear move. A: you can chug flasks when he does it. B: you can use mohg's shackle to stun him (thus interrupting his ritual) C: use the purifying crystal tear that shields you from the incantation (all 3 ticks) entirely. E: a combination of all the above which turns the fight into a joke, moreso than comet azur, but at least you actually get to see the boss fight.

​@@ZugzugZugzugson B route: "NIHI- OH FUCK I TRIPPED!"

I thought Godwyn was the golden child

@@cool2314he was but i mean he is dead so we can throw it onto miquella i guess???

​@@cool2314He was the golden child who actually did no wrong and was pretty chill, Miquella is just a prick

It's less like Miquella is a golden child and moreso like he's the youngest sibling (along with Malenia) and so his actions tend to be diminished in scope or outright ignored; ESPECIALLY if the older sibling(s) has/have already drawn the ire of the parents.

​@@cool2314 he is miquella is the second

I love his dying line: "Become our lord...not for the gods but for men."

Thats honestly genius

Radahn also held the stars in place effectively halting fate as we learn through Ranni’s quest. I think it’s likely Radahn wanted nothing to do with Miquella’s plan and actively tried to foil his plans

​@@gobstopper4523 Yes, plus didn't Radahn challenge the stars? I think the Starscourge talisman says so. That would mean he's the one who managed to started the fight with them.

​@@florianchabaud8548 He challenged the stars to keep Sellia safe. His beef with the stars didn't have much to do with Miquella's plan. In fact, Miquella's plans for Radahn is basically everything Radahn every wanted as a Radagon and Godfrey fanboy.

@@hoked2194 Yes, but we don't know anything about how, why, when Sellia was attacked. We only know that it's related to the stars and that Radahn beat them. I mean, there are only 2 places which have been attacked by stars and these are Sellia, defended by Radahn, and the skyless Eternal City which was destroyed, which we know why, when and how it was attacked (Astel was sent to destroy it bc of the Lord of the Night stuff). Instead of Radahn fighting back against the stars, I'm saying that Radahn seeked them out to beat them, he was the one triggering the conflict. After all, there are many reasons why Radahn would beat them.

Sir Chadsbach

When he dies vs radahn “Righteous Tarnished ..Become Lord” wants us to accomplish what his lord couldn’t

@@Pourvisine “But not for a God… But for men. 🥲

@@PourvisineReal awkward when Im gonna let my doll waifu become lord instead

@@biggreen1456 no we are HER lord

Someone mentioned on a ptevious video that varre may have joined after miquella enchanted mohg, hence his bizarre persona, and i shouldve mentioned it because it was such a great insight but i forgot

The recusants had five well mannered members and they practice cannibalism via the snake, so yeah it makes sense.

I heard that theory too. It makes you wonder just what Miquella's enchantments are capable of. It also makes me wonder if Miquella meant for Mohg to go kinda crazy, because if that's true it makes Miquella look even worse than he already does. It would be ironic if Mohg truly created a refuge for the downtrodden and then Miquella came in and ruined it despite advocating for that himself.

I would like to remind that he's still part of a literal blood cult.

@@samuelw01 oh absolutely but like, how many people have you killed by the time you meet him. not really in a position to judge much.

Goldmask and Ansbach are probably the best, aside from the turtle pope of course ;D

And tbh Mohg whould probably be a pretty decent ruler. I mean the age of blood sounds horrible but beside that i mean.

​@@draw2death421Probably wouldn't have been that, if Miquella didn't need vast amounts of blood for his project.

Yeah the outer gods seem more like nature spirits and the erdtree is like a monotheistic analogy that tried to incorporate bits of the nature gods while erasing them from history

@@TheHonoredMadman yeah I definitely think they tried to erase the outer Gods. I mean we do find the talisman in the dlc the place that Marika just shoved everything she didn't want people to find lol great video by the way!

no it doesn’t 😭 it show’s the diety hornsent that hold the revered spirit ashes, did you read the description? A certain group of hornsent looked into that tutelary diety and saw something twisted, the blood mother i’m assuming. Making them bloodfiends.

@@krashdevaughn5360 the description doesn't say anything about the hornsent. It says "a clan, who lost everything in the great fires" that could be any of the different groups that were burned by Messmer. They also don't look into a deity and see something twisted. It says "the peered into their ancestors corpse, normally an act of sanctity and saw in its shadow a twisted deity" It says nothing about the formless mother either. The talisman looks like a volcano erupting though and is found in the prospect town inhabited by the creatures who are doing the same ritual spear thrusting as mohg does. It's just my theory on why it's placed there and why the talisman looks like it does. This theory is actually stemming from a bigger theory that another channel put forth. That Lyndell was once a massive volcano. It's a very long theory so I won't go more into it but that is why when I saw that the Outer God heirloom had a volcano deity on it and was near creatures who worship the formless mother, I was very intrigued and wanted to mention my findings. I think next time you want to try and get a gotcha "did you read the description?" You should, in fact look up and actually read the description for yourself. I've been reading every item description as I pick up the items so far, so I definitely would have remembered if it said anything about the "hornsent" specifically.

I cant wait to do a video on jagged peak, bayle and the npcs

i think the vow was something like Radahn telling Miquella to best him in a duel or give him a good fight and he'll accept being his lord. However Miquella is teisting those words. I think Miquella just kinda played everyone honestly

@@wolfgangstallionmusic5639 The part “if we honour our part of the vow” means there was a vow from both sides. Maybe Radahn challenged Miquella something and thought there would be no way that vow would be fulfilled because it was too difficult/almost impossible. Then Miquella did manage to do that and the rest is history. I just hate that so many Radahn fanboys keep spreading the idea Radahn never promised anything. We might not know the details of their promise, but Radahn wouldn’t be the kind to backtrack and flip flop on his words. We never know which challenge or which request Radahn made Miquella to perform, maybe Malenia marching to Caelid was one part of that, but not all. Maybe there was more content to the vow and it’s not just defeating Radahn in battle.

@@SuperBurdens I think it's even simpler, in their youths Miquella approached Radahn to become his consort and there was some kind of agreement that if Miquella becomes God he'd serve him. But as they grew up and experienced more of the world I think Radahn began to see Miquella for what he truly is, a monster, the most fearsome and terrible of the Empyreans, and knew him ascending would be a bad thing. I think it's likely Miquella tried to call in the deal and Radahn backed out, so he sent Malenia to kill him, if he can't get Radahn to serve him in life then he'll force him to serve in death.

@@boanoah6362 What you are saying even paints Radahn in the worst light possible. A sane Radahn is anything but a flip-flopper who backtracks his own words. He made a vow, whether willingly or jokingly. I would rather believe Radahn accidentally made the pact a massive challenge while not knowing Miquella would go to such length to archive it than a coward backtracked Radahn.

@@SuperBurdens Why? I think it makes him appear more rational and noble, he saw the evil in Miquella and said 'fuck no' instead of abiding.

I can’t take it

And Varré, being pronounced "Var," even though Varré says his name when he properly introduces himself lmfao. It's killing me.

​@@ladonmccabe there's mispronouncing it because you've done it for a while and mispronouncing it out of spite

Whereas Ansbach doesn't have his name mispronounced.

There's the badasses of the Primordial Crucible, & they were all intimidating but none of them felt bad. Then there's those Hornsent Elders & what they got up, to, & they were hags on top of all that, tyrannising their society & entrenching it to their sole design. We were promised Chads, but what we got were momma's boys & spiteful old women. I don't like Marika taking it out on Younger generations. But we know where the trauma started. No wonder she doesn't like death either. She hated the very sight of the old & decrepit.

yyyooooOOOOOOOO

He’s a nice guy but the mohgwyn dynasty is still Sus

​@@dlwf11111tbf if Miquella didint brain wash Mohg, the dynasty whould probably be pretty decent. Ansbach doesent have blood eyes wich means most likely Miquella made Mohg kidnap Varre and the blood surgeons. So really only sus thing about the dynasty whould have been that he worships the Formless Mother, other than that it whould have been a pretty chill place.

@@draw2death421 I’m just not sure miquella made him do all that extra stuff, why would he?? That’s all blood dynasty stuff. And let’s not forget it’s a literal dynasty of blood, it’s a horror show down there.

@@dlwf11111 Miquella is said to have used Mohg to enter the Land of Shadow aswell. So could be that reguired Mohg to fille the egg with blood, to wich gaining more followers whould speed it up. Just a theory but it whould make sense. Otherwise why was mohg needed for the entry? Why coudnt Malenia perform the ritual herself if the presence of Mohg and the formless mother wasent a reguirement?

Its Lord Mohg! All hail the Mohgwyn Dynasty!

@@draw2death421 For the Dynasty!!!

​@@jonalbertlafuente9805 For the dynasty!

Smaug the Golden?

Moore’s the SpEd kid, Leda is the clique leader, Dane’s the exchange student with perfect grades, Freya is the athlete, and Hornsent will write you a note telling you not to come to school tomorrow.

@swyjix Dane is now a weeb in my head. Damn this game rules

​@@swyjixthe hornsent would tell you to make sure to come to school honestly

@@swyjix😂😂😂

@@swyjixI knew I liked Ansbach and Freja as soon as I met them

Imagine trying to make small talk with the guy.

*_"TIME TO START THE MOHGWYN DYNASTY!!!!!_* *_PLAP! PLAP! PLAP! PLAP!_*

Shadow of the Erdtree has done a let of legwork in persuading me that, while the Formless Mother and its effects are disgusting... I don't think it's malevolent? It seems to come to the oppressed and downtrodden to empower them, and I think that is legitimate. Rather than exploiting vulnerable people who have no choice but accept, I think the FM reaching out to these groups is actually benevolent? Considering how much Miyazaki enjoys subverting expectations of morality in his work, it would certainly fit his modus operandi.

She might not be inherently evil but she seems naturally antithetical to life as we know it and/or as any normal human/animal would be able to flourish in.

Imo none of the outer gods are straight up evil, they're just aspects of nature come off as more neutral. They want to establish a new way of life that we deem evil because it opposes our way of life.

​@@TheSuperRatt There's still the cannibalism/ritual murder tbh, you can find a few bloodfiends participating in a ritual near a dead bloodfiend

@@TheSuperRatt she is literary namira

Or used a big ass katana with bleed and mimic tear who would do such a thing 😏😏😏

You still kinda fight Mohg head-on, so I guess to Ansbach, that's honorable enough.

Listen...I only did that in NG+2. I fought him fairly the first two times...and the first time I didn't have the blood crystal to stop Nihil from chunking me half to death.

That does seem oddly coincidental. We don't know much about Moore, Leda, and Dane...but Freyja was a redmane honor guard to Radahn. Hornsent is obviously some bitter loser who's mad Marika and Messmer got revenge for that Shaman/Jar fiasco. It would make sense for Ansbach to be a tarnished since most of Mohg's knights were bloody fingers and the bloody fingers were all tarnished.

I forgot shes totally does mumble something. That makes complete sense. So i wonder then if mohg did show up to kidnap miquella only to be charmed by him

​@@TheHonoredMadman I can't think of any connective tissue between Miquella's Haligtree efforts and his plans as revealed in the DLC, it's a little frustrating his initial narrative arc has been swept aside instead of being married to his DLC actions.

People have speculated that Miquella's curse wasn't just eternal youth, but also that of forever unrealized potential. He was stuck with both the mind and the body of a child, with all his efforts doomed to be abandoned whenever he hit some sort of snag. After all, the Haligtree wasn't the only plan he'd had in the base game, the mess with Castle Sol also was him.

@@TW-qw5zr That's exactly my read of it: Miquella personified the potential of Marika's Eternity, and Melania its eternal decay.

so just putting everything together, timeline probably goes: 1: Miquella and Radahn make a transactional vow to be consorts; "Once we [finish warring with you in Caelid], promise you'll be my consort." (going by freyja's dialogue about the vow) (Radahn likely makes the promise just after the memory ends, since his boss title is literally "promised consort") 2: Malenia wars against Radahn, attempting to give him an honorable sendoff (freyja dialogue) 3: The scarlet aeonia blooms but doesn't fully kill Radahn, despite Malenia's intention (going by the young lion set, she intended for the bloom to deliver radahn to his consort, aka kill his body). 4: Finlay carries Malenia back to the haligtree all alone, journeying across the entire lands between. 5: Miquella journeys to the swamp of Aeonia. We dont know his intention in doing this beyond just looking for survivors like Freyja, maybe he was looking for Malenia, unaware of the Finlay situation. However, Freyja is aware of the Radahn festival started by Jerren, which means this is likely when Miquella is made aware of it as well. (hence why he doesn't kill Radahn himself) 6: Miquella comes back to the haligtree, and enters the cocoon to get rid of his child form. 7: Mohg shows up to kidnap Miquella (otherwise there's no explanation for him being there as far as we know), but is bewitched by Miquella, who then voluntarily leaves for the dynasty grounds with Mohg. (this would fit as the last time Malenia sees Miquella and begins awaiting "his return," hence her boss dialogue, so we can assume Finlay has finished the trip by now) 8: Back at the dynasty grounds, Ansbach challenges Miquella to a duel after seeing Mohg is bewitched, but fails. 9: Miquella departs to the shadow realm, fully intending for the tarnished to kill Radahn and Mohg. He starts at the gravesite plains (maybe teleporting from some of Mohg's blood to some of the Bloodfiends blood? would neatly fit with our spawn point just beneath the largest bloodfiend settlement in the realm) 10: Miquella first begins tearing apart his body at the three-path road just nearby (going by the etched words on his cross here) 11: events of the player character's journey, etc etc This is like the only timeline i could think of that manages to line up with all the information we're given. Also side-note but Mohg still doesn't look too good in this timeline lmao

I too have been trying to connect the formless mother to romina and the bud and rot cult that followed.

@@TheHonoredMadman yeah, it seems like From could have made it a little less obscure. Much like with Midra, Nanaya, and whoever is in her womb (whether it was Marika or Shabriri or whoever).

Made me subscribe too but realized it’s a recycled sound clip

Him and rot dog are like the only two summons ill use. Partners in crime

@@TheHonoredMadman I have a partial fondness for the two marionette archers. They're stoic badasses who comically turn my enemies into pincushions.

​​@@TheHonoredMadmani use the demi human gank squad as a joke sometimes

When ever I have a problem I chuck Olegg at it, works 100% of the time 60% of the time.

Reminder that Bloody Fingers willingly serve him, he didint force them to join him, Achbach doesent have blood eyes wich means Mohg started his Blood injection thing and the kidnaping of war surgeons after Miquella had charmed mohg. So basicly what the dynasty was before Miquella... was just a optional to join group.

The blue dancer/blind swordsman looked like he was being set up as a DLC boss, Godwyn got three knights and one of them already being dead. At least there's now a new mystery over just what his "surrogate corpse" is, the specific visage of death that refers to also has a third eye.