yeah that would have been a first too in the series to have so many antagonists at once fighting for the same treasure. I get what they tried to do with the "twist" about Alcazar being fake but it did the opposite, being a shock factor for the wrong reasons.

Not really. The cliff scene is great and if you're seriously complaining about "the death of the replayability of the story"... Whatever the hell that's supposed to be... then I don't think you're in a position to do any objective analysis

@@crangejo Every story that has a major plot twist like this suffers from what I’m talking about. It’s especially flawed in this game because of the entire playable prison escape. Now that mission looks awesome and is really fun to play but you essentially played a 20 minute segment for no real reason and once you play the game over and over it becomes more of chore because you know what’s going to happen already. Compare it to Uncharted 2’s plot twist where Chloe doesn’t want Nate’s help on the train. That twist advances the story forward where as the Uncharted 4’s twist just takes 20 minutes out of the game that could have been used for something better. Or even Uncharted 1 with Sully getting shot. That’s just a 2 minute cutscene in the beginning and one about a third of the way through. Both times it advances the plot, it’s not just a massive lie that the entire plot is based around. Uncharted is supposed to be predictable, cheesy, campy. Uncharted 4 is the outlier of the trilogy because it was designed and written by different people. It has a massive sweeping plot with a more serious tone throughout. I’m not saying it’s a bad game. I actually like it a lot and still get my mind blown from certain things I can do and see in it. I certainly don’t think it’s the best one though, especially because of the music. And the big lie about Sam is the weakest part of the story.

@@Inblader it wouldn't have been a first, it already happens in Drake's Fortune. And it is not just done for a shock factor?? It's a major narrative beat that A: takes Sam from unquestioned ally to greyed out character, B: plays into Sam and Nate's arc where the latter has to face someone as obsessed as he himself once was, C: cements Rafe as the antagonist, and almost nemesis of Drake as their relationship is like no other, and D: sets up the entirety of the closing arc of not just the game, but also Nate's fortune hunting life, as he no longer HAS to find the Gunsway It is not the cheap twist you think it is. And even tho Alcazar wasn't a bad character, he didn't have what it takes to be an Uncharted villain. And having some 5 minutes of screen time dude come in at the tail end of the game as Nate's final adversary would've been awful

I thought it was really effective, but the fact that they never actually get around to talking about it totally ruins it.

it's a bit quiet 💀