This is what makes Souls games and a select few Souls likes so damn good in my mind. Some games have excellent gameplay, but the story sucks. Some are the opposite. Very very few have both. A lot of people hate on this game, but I’ve come to love it. You doin this helps, so it’s much appreciated.
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
Its rocky launch really hurt perceptions, which is a shame because the story/world is very rich. At least CI and Hexworks seem to respond to community feedback
@EZAZOHL9 ай бұрын
I'm with yas I love this game I don't play many games again but I'm gonna with this 1 right away. There's soo much to still be found
@scarvello8 ай бұрын
It’s only going to get better with the update and dlc plans I can’t wait to do another play through. Yes some annoying stuff in it but every souls games very annoying things in them all.
@EZAZOHL8 ай бұрын
@@scarvello agreed an I can't wait for dlc an sht
@Bluntlings8 ай бұрын
I agree. I hate that people give it such a bad rep. I have come to love this game just as much as Elden ring, dark souls, sekiro etc
@maxmillianwiegel16439 ай бұрын
Hour long discussion of lords of the fallen’s story? You got yourself a new sub.
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support, hope you enjoyed the video!
@infamousjack35246 ай бұрын
I know its supposed to be high Gothic, Christian faith inspired but the entire game felt a mix of the crusades and the Spanish inqusition VS demons with a Cthulu undertone. Awesome feeling
@MrNuclearz8 ай бұрын
Man do I feel like an idiot after he said that the Rhogar Lords were of the Fallen God and I finally realized why the game is called Lords of the Fallen 🤡
@mandroid-rb4uy6 ай бұрын
me too lol 🤡👹
@liamodahl12056 ай бұрын
But also you literally have command over death, i.e. the "fallen"
@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa87252 ай бұрын
In my head it's because the player character falls of so many ledges.
@sslinger7042 ай бұрын
@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 Fr, the collision in this game is janky
@PiethagorasTearem25 күн бұрын
@@sslinger704 But they just fixed it recently no?
@maureenbouterse9 ай бұрын
You know, it's kind of insane that one of the core pillars that lead to Mournestead's fall is...Judge Cleric not touching grass. Imagine the lives that could have been saved, the terrors averted, the realms saved if only someone in the Hallowed Sentinels had had the gall to drag her ass out to get some sunlight. All jokes aside, I love that you're still doing Lords of the Fallen lore. I gotta admit that there's something quite interesting in Adyr's next level pettiness. He could have all the bodies in the world to manifest his mortal avatar, and 1500 years of a grudge leads him to take the body of Iselle. Damn son. There's absolutely no way Mournestead isn't gonna burn in the fires of his revenge.
@Sometuy11A9 ай бұрын
He already tried to use other bodies to manifest that being the spurned progeny iirc. It seems he needed a very powerful vessel now that his physical form has died. It just happened that the woman who betrayed him also made for the perfect vessel.
@stevenfernandez38729 ай бұрын
@@Sometuy11A he also chose her body cause he wanted her suffer the way he suffered. Soul locked way in the Rhogar Realm while he uses her body.
@Sometuy11A9 ай бұрын
@@stevenfernandez3872 That is true. I wish we could have seen his country-sized form, though. But the way he took revenge on Iselle was a great twist too.
@stinyg8 ай бұрын
Even before Harkin gave her the Rune , she was already at breaking point with the gruesom plague. Harkin's rune made her go full genocidal and paranoid where she saw sinners and adyr apologists everywhere.
@Sometuy11A8 ай бұрын
@@stinyg That’s true. The rune just took things to the next level.
@blakebailey228 ай бұрын
Well written and skillfully presented, good work! The lore and story for this universe is more interesting than I initially gave it credit for
@TheLorebrarians8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Yes, I feel like the rocky launch did a disservice to the amazing setting/art/lore found in this world. Hopefully with the dev improvements and holidays coming, more will be interested
@kkkk29168 ай бұрын
No it doesn’t rly it copies everything from dark souls and elden ring down to character design it doesn’t innovate on anything but it is a good video
@BumMilkSandwhich8 ай бұрын
This dude spoke to me in thesaurus for an intro and im all ears for it
@TheLorebrarians8 ай бұрын
The passion of a storyteller and a wordsmith by hobby
@maleficentdunn53708 ай бұрын
Judge Cleric - Die a hero or live long enough to become the Villain
@AlexandreChaudret-yj8fc9 ай бұрын
Incredible video ! Thank you so much for this, feeling flattered to see our lore here unveiled !
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
Wow, it's thanks to you all for bringing such a vivid world to life! Would love to connect and talk LotF story through art sometime
@AlexandreChaudret-yj8fc9 ай бұрын
My pleasure ! @@TheLorebrarians
@burnttoast269 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, it's pretty hard to find LotF lore content
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
You bet. Yes, which surprises me because I absolutely love the story/worldbuilding
@sci83868 ай бұрын
With how good this game is, I'm surprised there isn't more videos like this. Great job. Loved every minute!
@Diabeticninja908 ай бұрын
Mid
@lynackhilou48655 ай бұрын
The lore is interesting but idk if i'd call the game good , it's decent enough but has many issues
@andreamaral9725Ай бұрын
The game is amazing, the haters are genuinely just hating to hate
@Mr_Edwards_199511 күн бұрын
The art direction and style for this game is amazing. Half of these paintings and art sets look like they’re pulled straight from the medieval period.
@Wyqno8 ай бұрын
I think the Putrid Mother's influence on events prior to the seals weakening is too downplayed; she is not just an opportunistic actor, but the driver behind everything. Looking at the timeline of events, it is more probable the initial plague was Umbral in nature, which helped drive the Hallowed Sentinels into paranoia and fanaticism, allowing the Rune of Adyr to twist their worship and weaken the seals when it was brought back into Mournstead. It is worth noting that no Adyr worshipper stigma or item suggests the initial plague was actually Rhogar in nature like Pieta and Judge Cleric think, and while the Rhogar plague twists forms, the dialogue of the stigmas suggests they simply suffer (wither?) and die. I doubt any Hallowed Sentinel would deny a mutated human with claws and sharp fangs slinging fire to be anything but Rhogar, and I doubt their radiant sorceries would prove so ineffective against such a plague.
@dominicp92963 ай бұрын
Agreed but the biggest mistake judge cleric made was not deatroy the rune she didn't want not to be wanted/needed she obviously enjoyed the power that was the start of there downfall right there
@Sometuy11A3 ай бұрын
I thought of this as well. Who's to say that the lamp wasn't what whispered into Harkyn's mind to give the rune to judge the cleric? After all, it does become a crucial part of the putrid mother's plan to enter Axiom, both in giving access to Adyr and as a way to kill the immortal Harkyn and collect his parasite. You are also correct that the items tied to the sundered monarch state he was afflicted by a "cruel sickness of the mind," and we know Rhogar energy withers both body and mind, making it likely he was affected by umbral insanity rather than fallen to Rhogar energy. We should also keep in mind that the Adyr worshippers heed whispers that come from beneath the earth because they believe Adyr's body is buried there, but we know very well that any whispers from the ground come from umbral.
@Psychokinslayer8 ай бұрын
To this day, i still dont get where the hate for this game comes from. I found it fun and unique. An awesome take on the soulslike genre AND an amazing comeback conaidering the last game was nie on unplayable. The game was and is amazing. I feel like the hate stems from "its not daek souls or fromsoft"
@Luukluukluuk128 ай бұрын
I have played every single Souls game from FromSoft. DS3 is my favorite game of all time. So I know at least a bit of what I'm talking about. That being said, I've been playing Lords of the Fallen for weeks now and I can not stop playing. I love the realm mechanic, the feel of the weapons, the beautiful armors and locations.
@hatefulgaming18007 ай бұрын
The game ran absolutely horribly at launch and wasn’t well balanced.
@Psychokinslayer7 ай бұрын
@@hatefulgaming1800 Wow, that may be true games have the ability to fix such things. And we need to stop worrying about whether a game doesn't work in the beginning and just play it later
@Psychokinslayer7 ай бұрын
@@hatefulgaming1800 Biggest example cyber punk twenty seventy seven Game couldn't even be played in the beginning now. It's probably one of the best games i've ever seen
@xtalpax9026 ай бұрын
@@PsychokinslayerYeah same,if the game as a rough start wait for the fixes and then start it
@extremehunter426Ай бұрын
All of this lore makes me love this game even more, this game is a beautiful dark world and this lore shows the evil and dark under belly that makes our characters choices and crusades more important than I ever thought, this game is truly amazing and the lore just as much so
@Sometuy11A9 ай бұрын
So is Orius actually responsible for creating the mortal realm, or is that a belief of the Orian faith? Also is Adyr really a native of the Rhogar realm? The way he talks about it seems to imply it’s some sort of new prison realm the judges banished him to while Axiom was his home. Tremendous video! I loved every second!
@sercravenmohead36317 ай бұрын
Adyr created the Rhogar, he was imprisoned in that realm where he assumably makes them.
@emersonapreza9 ай бұрын
So Harkin was the first game protagonist. That's awesome, this game is a true direct sequel. Still the developers saying that's reboot hahaha.
@red_ness_6718 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this video, thank you for doing it so well
@TheLorebrarians8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@azuredream90329 ай бұрын
Wow this was such a good explainative lore vid! LOVE listening to all of your lore vids on lotf ever since i first listened to the lore surrounding pieta. Its my most favorite soulslike since the original so it makes me really happy to see another be so passionate and interested in its lore despite the bad stigma the original left behind for many. Keep it up lorebearian!
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words and glad to hear you enjoyed the video! The game has such a vivid world and rich story, hopefully the rocky launch will settle and more players will pick it up for the great experience
@azuredream90329 ай бұрын
Yes i agree. Also as a suggestion and it doesn't have to be anytime soon but I'd love to see a lore video on damarose, delving deeper into her history and seemingly sad fate from adyr. That's another thing that really intrigues me about this franchise is how adyr always try and make himself seem morally right but contradicts himself by corrupting and tormenting ppl as well as using manipulation to achieve his selfish goals.
@YelFlux8 ай бұрын
Yeah he right like damn
@dxcSOUL8 ай бұрын
All I wanna know is... Where is Orius? Adyr is making moves, but Orius is doing what?
@LoganSearles8 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure he’s not doing much since he cut off his own head.
@holykonchu72508 ай бұрын
@@LoganSearleswhat is it with holy things game ending themselves on purpose
@papapear49542 ай бұрын
This is one of the best lore summarization videos I've ever listened to.
@ReineOktabahr8 ай бұрын
Very cool video! Tomorrow I will start playing for last ending and this video added even more hype) I would like to see more videos about LOTF and it's characters, like Hushed Saint, Tancred, Harrower etc. Also, it's still unclear for me who was the leader of dark crusaders. It seems like he was only present in trailer, when Dunmire, Harrower and Isaac came to the 'headquaters'. Thank you for the content!
@TheLorebrarians8 ай бұрын
So glad you enjoyed and I appreciate the suggestions! Working on more boss lore now then I hope to dive into the Church of Orius and Dark Crusaders/Hallowed Sentinels
@ReineOktabahr8 ай бұрын
@@TheLorebrarians will be waiting for new videos then! With my next playthrough I decided to roleplay as Hushed Saint - left and forgotten by the church, slowly drowned into umbral desparity - imo good feat for umbral ending. I tried looking for his lore, but found only few hints from his item descriptions( Hopefully one day I will learn more about him here 😄
@jamescannon41869 ай бұрын
Great to see you again my guy. Let’s enjoy the hell out of another video!
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
Hope it met expectations!
@jamescannon41869 ай бұрын
@@TheLorebrarians definitely did 👌🏻
@relrayford29649 ай бұрын
The canon ending should be a mix of the three, basically resulting in The Putrid Mother devoured Adyr and Axiom, in 2 of the ending She defeats Adyr and in the last She is not defeated. Nothing states that Adyr is able to defeat Her, nor that Adyr would be able to provide a seal like the infant is in ages to come. And who knows if the infant and its successor placed by Orius’ church would be able to seal the Mother after She devoured another god ?
@SenjiroAkechi2 ай бұрын
Not true. Adyr is more powerful than her. Examples: Despite the fact that Umbral is simply layered on top of Axiom (like a shadow of Axiom), the Putrid Mother's influence in Axiom is absolutely minimal. Only where the veil between the two is thinnest (like in the mines) does Umbral kinda bleed over into Axiom a little bit. On the other hand Adyr is not 'close' to Axiom like Umbral is. He is in the Rhogar Realm which is completely separated dimensionally from Axiom and yet Adyr has immense influence over mournstead and axiom as a whole, including things like decay, natural disasters, mental corruption, eternal eclipses etc. You know that giant hand, larger than any mountain? The game tells you that giant hand mountain formation was from Adyr's mere anger being powerful enough to cross entire dimensions. The Putrid Mother does not have the sheer power to affect Axiom from Umbral the way Adyr can affect Axiom all the way from a different dimension altogether. Adyr talks about Orius and the Putrid Mother and calls them both cowards who won't show themselves, especially while his influence in Axiom is so great. The fact that all the way from the Rhogar Realm he is able to see the Putrid Mother and basically calls her a disgusting umbral parasite unworthy of the title of Godhood is telling enough. He is able to peer through other realms to see her clearly for what she looks like, and is unconcerned, his only concern is just getting to his home dimension of axiom. The Putrid Mother does not directly defeat Adyr in any ending. In the radiance ending the lamp bearer is able to overcome Adyr only after the former weakens Adyr by strengthening the beacons with the lamp's energy, on top of this, the lamp bearer also faces Adyr while being amped by the rune of Adyr in his posession. You may try to say that the lamp 'consumed' him as proof of the Putrid Mother's superiority but again the Lampbearer was also more powerful here because he had the Rune of Adyr in his possession. And besides that...Orius then turned around and destroyed not just you but the umbral lamp as well. And Orius is no more than a rival to Adyr, unable to exert his full influence on Axiom even though his rival Adyr is locked away in a prison dimension. And yet Orius had zero problem not just burning the Lampbearer into nothing, but the lamp and all its umbral energy as well. In the Umbral ending, the Putrid mother literally requires the Rune of Adyr as well to enact her plans. She has to taint the rune with umbral energy as well as remove melchior's body from the effigy of Adyr in bramis castle all for the dual purpose of helping her escape Umbral and to prevent Adyr from escaping the Rhogar realm. She didn't 'defeat' him at all. She removed him from the equation so he wouldn't be an obstacle to her and also required the power of his rune to escape Umbral herself. The most clear example of Inferno energy being greater than Umbral is through Pieta. Pieta's actual revival and healing powers don't come from Radiance/Orius, but from Umbral energy. As spoken of by Molhu, Pieta (whose original name as a child was Elianne) had an Umbral parasite fused into her since infanthood, unknowingly to her. Yet despite the healing powers her umbral blood gave her, she was completely unable to heal those stricken en-masse by the illness and mental corruption caused by the rhogar blight--all of which was coming from Adyr's influence.
@MarioGarcia-de2fj22 күн бұрын
@SenjiroAkechi great examples, but I feel as the putrid mother shows only enough to seem as if she is no threat. Which I think adyr fell for. He thinks of her as a disgusting parasite not worth his time or day. I believe the putrid mother to be alot smarter then what she lets on.
@matix12569 ай бұрын
Humanity - beat Adyr to be free from rule of God also Humanity - 1000 years later Become slaves of god Orius Putrid Mother - ... You know i could eat all the gods, so you will be come real free :D (in my belly) XD
@stinyg8 ай бұрын
The contradiction is thr point. The person who deposed Adyr herself ended up being worshiped like a God (Judge Cleric). After the plague and Harkin's Rune she became corrupted and went full Loco.
@MiguelHernandez-zm2ii9 ай бұрын
Nice! Keep them coming!!!
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed, more are on their way!
@Igmaram14 күн бұрын
Very good video, I would like to see more deep videos for some characters like Pieta.
@LightofRenewal8 ай бұрын
Do we know how Orius looks? Is there a physical depiction of him in the game, or is it left up to our imagination?
@Jagarm878 ай бұрын
Imagination
@LightofRenewal8 ай бұрын
@@Jagarm87 Who was the guy towards the beginning of one of the trailers when the dark crusaders entered into this giant door? There was a giant sitting on a throne who wore a mask who said “ascend towards Orius my child, as his holy redeemer”
@holykonchu72508 ай бұрын
@@LightofRenewal that could be the cardinal of dark crusaders, telling him that in his duty he will ascend to his god? Or it could be Judge Cleric? Haven't fully watched the video yet or fully played the game, currently on like hour 30 in the game and searching EVERY INCH of the map to find everything
@LightofRenewal8 ай бұрын
@@holykonchu7250 Let me know if you find any lore relating to it. It will be much appreciated.
@Sometuy11A6 ай бұрын
@@LightofRenewal High luminary Casilium, essentially the equivalent of the Pope.
@PerfectDark09 ай бұрын
Bro your videos are truly amazing. Like you have some serious potential. I’ve been hooked from your Hollower Dervla vid. Please keep breaking down Lotf lore.
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, I really appreciate the support! More LotF to come
@caliposted58732 ай бұрын
Amazing Video from beginning to end. Awesome job 👍❤🔥
@ihsahnmeraz11558 ай бұрын
Please make more lords of the fallen content I loved this video!
@FunForNothing9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, great vid!
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
Of course, glad you enjoyed!
@FirstSnow9 ай бұрын
Bravo! A few key details missing, but otherwise a tremendous breakdown. #teamwinterberry
@lorddrewcifer76507 ай бұрын
Thanks for breaking this down. I didn't know what the game was about.
@markgoimon9 ай бұрын
Bramis' family please
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
already in the works ;)
@Luukluukluuk128 ай бұрын
I have played every single Souls game from FromSoft. DS3 is my favorite game of all time. So I know at least a bit of what I'm talking about. That being said, I've been playing Lords of the Fallen for weeks now and I can not stop playing. I love the realm mechanic, the feel of the weapons, the beautiful armors and locations.
@MrZakuRetro9 ай бұрын
I clicked so fast that im Sanic now. Maybe making lo re videos for old internet memes is not a bad idea.
@Sometuy11A9 ай бұрын
I’ll be taking second spot then.
@Ghost_4_59 ай бұрын
I can appreciate your point of view on this movie its still one of my favorites but o would have never even thought of it like this of u hadn't said it in your review , keep up the awesome work man .
@mickeycee85599 ай бұрын
Oh hell yea man!! So pumped for this
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
Enjoy!
@Demon-.8 ай бұрын
Awesome vid! Thanks for the story
@redib27776 ай бұрын
16:35 DiCaprio pointing meme*
@UsedGames5 ай бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy this game so far and just like every souls like or souls games I understand that it's not for everyone but it's definitely for me 👍
@michaelwawryk48756 ай бұрын
This game is so amazing. I’m glad I didn’t listen to reviews.
@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa87252 ай бұрын
It's better than they said no question but It has some issues.
@fabolousjada50702 ай бұрын
@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725every game has issues bro
@drpotato8303 ай бұрын
I like this game is about to fight evil, you must use the power of another evil.
@Jv199799 ай бұрын
So the next game will probably be about taking out orius and umbral probably leaking into the real world.
@zacharyfranklin22502 ай бұрын
ooooh so in his effort to prevent his fear he inadvertently caused them to come true by rivaling adyr
@stevenfernandez38729 ай бұрын
So how did the Judge Cleric attain Demi god status and live for over 1500 years while the other two judges didn't? Wasnt the judge cleric just a regular priestesses of Adyr right before the events of her losing her parents? Also who really is Orius? Don't think he created humans otherwise why would he let Adyr waltz in and take control of them? He just seems like a poorly written, one dimensional god and as Adyr says just hiding till some one else does Orius's bidding.
@CalebDekker9 ай бұрын
We don't actually know what happened to the other two judges. They could very well be alive! When they banished Adyr, it is understood that they were deified to a degree (which is why Adyr describes them as demi/psuedo/fake gods). They are ascended, but they aren't incorruptible either. As to who Orius is, I suspect he is the good guy. As was stated in the video, he cut off his own head to create the heavenly bodies and firmament for creation. Just like it is understood in Christianity, which this game heavily allegorizes from, the god Orius might seem like an indifferent, underserving God to those who are unfamiliar with his divine intervention, but he is the force who orchestrated all things. So, Orius is responsible - due to his influence and planning - for the beacons, the hallowed sentinels, the Church of Orius, the Dark Crusaders, and even for your resurrection at the beginning of the game. Orius even twists the Umbral mother god into doing his will when he orchestrates it so that Adyr is devoured. The events of the entire game perfectly work for Orius's sake. And when you cleanse the beacons on his behalf - after he orchestrated your resurrection - Adyr is slain and his holy light purges the land of the Rhogar infestation of Mournstead. He redeems characters like Pieta, he saves Mournstead from Adyr's oppression forever, and he cuts off the Umbral mother's connection to Axiom by destroying the lamps at the end of the game. He's literally a genius.
@Sometuy11A9 ай бұрын
@@CalebDekker The three judges are likely immortal or very long-lived, seeing as Kaslo is over 500 years old by the events of the first game and Iselle is 1500 years old by the events of the second game. I don't think it's confirmed that Orius was the god behind the creation of the mortal realm, merely that it is a belief in the Orian faith. He is only a genius if you take the Radiance ending to be canon; otherwise, Orius is a complete fool, as the tool he tried to use against Adyr ends up either backfiring and resulting in freeing Adyr, giving him a lord who surpasses the judges in strength and taking out Iselle (not to mention giving him a god consuming weapon to use on the other gods lol) or ending existence altogether by freeing the putrid mother. Keep in mind that one of the possible lampbearers is literally a cultist of Adyr. It's far more likely that the PC specifically being resurrected was purely due to chance. There is also the HUGE risk that the events he supposedly orchestrated will lead you to find the rune of Adyr and fall into the temptation of power, which could be a catalyst for a lamp-bearer who was initially not a servant of Adyr to turn on their mission and join Adyr (or pretty much give the putrid mother what she needs to tear the veil). Honestly, it feels more like a gamble. The Radiance ending is a bit vague; Orius nukes could either be him killing the Rhogar or killing everyone he deems a heretic, be it Adyr worshippers or those who "stray away from the light." So it's up to interpretation The Radiance ending is a bit vague; Orius nukes could either be him killing the Rhogar or killing everyone he deems a heretic, be it Adyr worshippers or those who "stray away from the light." So it's up to interpretation, but the latter is not far off from some of the things the Christian god does or orders. Molhu is also still alive, the veil between axiom and umbral will continue to weaken because the boy martyr is dead (depending on your choices), Harkyn's umbral lamp is still around, and there are more umbral parasites out there. We know very devout servants of Orius (Dunmire) can fall to the temptation of umbral, so he hasn't exactly fixed the problem by nuking you Nuking you was also done purely for the lols rather than to destroy the lamp. Lampbearers can willingly part with their umbral lamps and no longer be bound to them (see Isaac), so what this really means is he doesn't give a shit if the PC lives or not and were just a disposable pawn to him. Also, what do you mean by "redeems pieta"?
@CalebDekker9 ай бұрын
@@Sometuy11A Well, neither is anything "confirmed" except for very specific details. Based on the information presented in the game, there's not really a good reason to assume otherwise. Regardless of your conclusion, you have to take someone at their word, but that's neither here none there because it doesn't affect the crux of my point which was to say that Orius didn't do anything wrong (AND he did good). I do take the Radiance ending as canon for a few reasons: it was described as the primary objective of the game by the developers and all of the marketing leading up to the games release, it is the quest that was given to you by all of the characters in the opening of the game (including Isaac), and its the only ending of the game which has you fight a totally unique boss. If were going to debate the canon ending, then I might as well discard it because it also really doesn't affect my points either. Orius taking calculated risks is totally acceptable given the umbral mother's invasion of Axiom and Adyr's rising influence in Mournstead which has pushed out all of Orius's influence in the region. Even if it was solely a gamble, it was really the only play. Armies of crusaders were sent to cleanse the beacons, and the lamp that the church had access to was entrusted to Isaac who never lost his devotion to Orius even after death. Whether you come across the rune of Adyr or not (whether you're tempted or not), if nothing is done then Adyr will be freed regardless. The only way it would wind up in Orius's favor is if it was recovered by a crusader. If the crusader falls to Adyr's influence, it wouldn't make a difference because Adyr would be free in either case. BUT if the crusader resists Adyr's influence, then all of Mournstead is recovered. Again, there is only one play to make. Huge risks? Well, it's the only way to get a positive outcome at all, but the turnaround is massive. The radiance ending is not vague in the least. Orius's light pours down across Mournstead. What's in Mournstead? I must have missed all of the good normal people who were not corrupted by Adyr, the umbral mother, or dead because there wasn't a single one left by the end of the game (except for less than a handful of NPCs maybe?). We don't really see any examples of these "good people" who are left except for the few who are still devoted to Orius like Pieta or Isaac. But assuming that Orius was just blasting all of the heretics, whose to say that would be a bad thing? Who is he zapping? Molhu? Judge Cleric? Sounds good to me! If that's the case, then why would Molhu still be alive? Why wouldn't the lamps/lampbearers be hunted down by the church and burned by Orius? Why wouldn't this help stave off the umbral invasion? Why shouldn't Orius fear the player character? If Orius is as much or less of a "god" as Adyr, then using his power and influence to stop a potential future where the lamps are turned on him seems to be a very logical conclusion. You might have used the lamp for Orius now, but whose to say you wouldn't use the lamp to devour him in the future? Orius is ensuring his victory, and if you choose Orius, then you - like Isaac - would happily die for the sake of Orius and his followers. If we're going to lean into the Christian allegory - which I like - then I'll answer in the same way that the Bible does...who are we to question God? It's not "for the lols", a lampbearer is a threat to Orius reign. My comment about Pieta was simply to say that, despite her nature being corrupted and twisted by the Umbral parasite, she was protected from her fate as Elianne by her devotion to Orius, and Orius resurrected Pieta while also giving her the task of aiding the player character on his crusade to cleanse the beacons and restore Orius's reign in Mournstead. Orius is a genius!
@AmonnRa9 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that Adyr acted kind towards Dark Crusader because he needed someone to corrupt beacons, also he couldn't face direct Crusader but only trough his minions, maybe he speaks truth but it's high possibility that he only manipulated player to join him.
@stevenfernandez38729 ай бұрын
@@CalebDekker ughh no in regards with Pieta, there is no definitive proof that Orius resurrected her. Also "Her nature being corrupted and twisted by the umbral Parasite" ....She is the UMBRAL PARASITE with an Axiom body. There is no redemption for her. Her umbral nature (feeding on the dead) is marred by her overwhelming devotion to the Orius and her belief that she is an instrument of Orius. Hence why when we fight Elianne in the umbral ending, her name is Elianne "THE STARVED". Her resurrection is most likely through her Umbral powers or Molhu (her Father) who been watching over her since her conception. So how is Orius, a god that can't even confront Adyr and putrid mother gonna convert an umbral creature to a human? Orius is so paranoid about the putrid mother like Adyr, hence why he kills you at the end in the radiance ending. You the character are a dead person resurrected by the umbral lamp and hence linked to it like the Iron Wayfarer. So far Orius just seems like a weaker diety compared to Adyr and putrid mother, both who are straight forward with their intentions while Orius expects others to do his work for him and then step in and claim the spotlight.
@shaunflinn10029 ай бұрын
Great video!
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@YelFlux8 ай бұрын
Bro that k you very much for making understand the game i play you are precious for my lord of the fallen game play precious
@TheLorebrarians8 ай бұрын
It was my goal of the channel to do exactly this - help people better connect with and enjoy the games they love to play - so I'm very glad to hear this!
@EZAZOHL8 ай бұрын
This video was thorough an well done I'm playing thru it right now an this helps like the game that much more an I kno its a semi sequel but alot is not told u hafta really dig for the lore an it's pretty good lore
@TheLorebrarians8 ай бұрын
Appreciate it, enjoy the journey!
@EZAZOHL8 ай бұрын
@@TheLorebrarians well ty I'm enjoying it alil more after the video 🫡
@holykonchu72508 ай бұрын
To get all lore tidbits, go for a umbral build to see all the small lore in weapons and armor
@EZAZOHL8 ай бұрын
@@holykonchu7250 I'm a try that on my next play through
@matthewzumbo98688 ай бұрын
would have loved to have gotten to finish this game, but one of the updates they released completely erased my character with close to 25 hours of progress. thanks dev team...
@johnnydrama87096 ай бұрын
Games awesome. And one of the best looking
@dantauche79179 ай бұрын
Great vid
@philipgant28207 ай бұрын
Love the video
@TheLorebrarians6 ай бұрын
Appreciate it
@TheWickedMessenger38 ай бұрын
"we have VaatiVidya at home" making a video about "we have Dark Souls at home", classic.
@lordaizen80048 ай бұрын
BEST off-brand* offerings I've seen to date tho!!! 👍👍
@lordaizen80048 ай бұрын
I really like this game. (The Lords of The Fallen), i just can't help but feel like it ended on a whimper
@yourvault16122 ай бұрын
I wish u make this video for thr first game
@wolfsoldner90297 ай бұрын
Wasn't Kaslo, the magician from the first game who freed Harkyn, one of the three judges ?
@RealSkelzore8 ай бұрын
53:16 is that a character you made? Looks dope.
@Glori4n4 ай бұрын
You "s" is too loud in this video, I believe there's an audio channel overly loud in the mixing.
@Idk-vf3mr15 күн бұрын
I really want to watch this video but I'm mid game, does it spoil something or can I watch it?
@NuevoExistence5 ай бұрын
It's not Adyrs corruption, it is the hallowed sentinels.
@zacharyfranklin22502 ай бұрын
so half the land was vibin w adyr and accepted him as their god, and the other half didnt? or a group showed regret and remorse for their actions?
@TUTMENA4 ай бұрын
Time is the ultimate Evil - as always.
@rex_reverb50412 ай бұрын
Man I can’t focus on what your saying because of my tiny brain, TOO MANY BIG WORDS AGHHHHHHHHHH🤯🤯🤯🤯
@mandroid-rb4uy6 ай бұрын
hello Scholarian WOW!! i loved lords of the Fallen but not ant GUD at it Loved the design Lore and monsters LOTF2 looks even better More Lore a refined combat loop and glorious boss fights I will definitely buy it and play it as the Beautiful Grand Grotesque gothic Aesthetics is stunning!!
@johnmaxwell24389 ай бұрын
Does anyone know the name of the somber music playing In the background?
@zacharyfranklin22502 ай бұрын
so did adyr come from umbral? or was he just always around?
@AmonnRa9 ай бұрын
Great video, for me this is best soulslike game alongside Elden Ring, do you know how strong is Dark Crusader with Umbral lamp compared to other Soulslike protagonists?
@Sometuy11A9 ай бұрын
They should be second only to the Lord of Frenzied Flame from Elden Ring.
@PaulAtreidees8 ай бұрын
He is weaker than Tarnished and Wolf (Sekiro).
@Sometuy11A9 ай бұрын
I’m gonna go on a limb here and assume Kaslo was the judge assassin.
@Clapperofcheeks50009 ай бұрын
Cleric dude the woman was assassin and artNas the warrior
@Sometuy11A9 ай бұрын
@@Clapperofcheeks5000Antanas is a descendant of one of the judges, not a judge himself. So far we know only of Iselle and Kaslo.
@stevenfernandez38729 ай бұрын
Whose Kalso? And where was he mentioned?
@Sometuy11A9 ай бұрын
@@stevenfernandez3872 The old man who frees Harkyn in the first game.
@Clapperofcheeks50009 ай бұрын
@@Sometuy11A what I meant was there kind of the embodiment of . That’s what I think
@Clapperofcheeks50009 ай бұрын
Didn’t know adeer was a beeatch
@Darqology8 ай бұрын
Fiedelis lore perhaps?
@SavicksterTheTrixter7 ай бұрын
@TheLorebrarians Where is the story of the Sundered Monarch?
@patrickempson73668 ай бұрын
Our ancient history even knows how to stay with the times…the third one she’ll be a man again but the ancient scholars will argue about calling her sir or ma’am…..ITS MA’AM
@grbknt4 ай бұрын
The primary distinction between Elden Ring and other Souls games lies in their foundational inspirations. Elden Ring diverges from the heavy reliance on real-world religions and mythologies that characterize titles like Dark Souls and Lords of the Fallen (LotF). In the latter, deities such as Gwyn, akin to Zeus, and Nito, resembling Hades, draw directly from human mythologies. Similarly, in LotF, Orius is parallel to Zeus, while Adyr mirrors Hades, showcasing a strong influence from existing religious beliefs. Also Putrid Mother is heavily inspired from the CThun or the Wheel of Life God from legacy of kain. Last but not least, up to 80% is a bad copy of Christianity and copy from Diablo lore. This is why those games are all the same, heretical and boring. Killing demons or aligning with demons every time same story. Elden Ring, on the other hand, ventures into more original territory, significantly influenced by George R.R. Martin's creative vision. It introduces the concept of the Lands Between-a series of flat, distinct planes of existence. Unlike traditional deities, Marika, a central figure in Elden Ring, is not depicted as the king of gods but rather as a divine entity revered by the civilizations of the Lands Between. Her divinity is attributed to her origins from the outer planes and her possession of cosmic power, setting her apart from traditional godly figures. Furthermore, Elden Ring portrays a more complex cosmology. While Marika wields significant power, she is not alone; there exist entities beyond the Lands Between with power surpassing hers. The narrative depth extends with Marika's creation of the Elden Tree, a source of life for the Lands Between, and her offspring, the Empyreans (Elden Lords), who inherit runes from the shattered Elden Ring-a consequence of her sorrow over the loss of her firstborn, Godwyn the Golden. The protagonist, known as the Tarnished, is introduced to explore and unravel the intricate lore surrounding the Elden Ring. However, it's hinted that there is much more to the backstory, suggesting that Marika's role is not that of a universe creator but rather as a divine custodian sent by a higher force to nurture life under her guidance through the Elden Tree. This nuanced narrative framework in Elden Ring departs from traditional mythological archetypes, presenting a richly original lore that minimizes direct parallels with human religions, underpinned by Martin's unique contribution to its mythos. This is why Elden Ring and Lord of the Rings lore is much better lore than any other high fantasy lore in the world.
@NarutoIIPrayer7 ай бұрын
I will always believe the Putrid Mother is the cannon ending, because of how it is presented and certain lines we see. Love the lore, it's so well done, been playing since release and altho it had MANY and I mean MANY issues and some still persist, I cannot hate them, they add so many new free updates, always work on their game and try to listen to the community. But yeah, you could also see that because there is no continuation, the Putrid Mother's ending is the "cannon" one because all has been devoured :P But that's me just reaching :D
@stephenss10008 ай бұрын
Great story, I love the lore. Hate playing the actual game.
@thefallenking44219 ай бұрын
What happened to the royal child?
@TheLorebrarians9 ай бұрын
Stay tuned, scripting for a video explaining Mournstead's royal family as we speak
@stinyg8 ай бұрын
@@TheLorebrarianscan't wait :)
@zoisantonopoulos79993 күн бұрын
The fact that all souls like games use the same way to inform the player about the story is depressing. Item descriptions and cryptic conversations with npcs IS NOT good story telling. I like this games story much more than Elden ring but for some reason it’s not communicated effectively to a new player . Such a shame because I like this game a lot .
@freshjnew8 ай бұрын
Is this one of the warhammer dudes he sounds like one of the warhammer dudes
@alibaba-2558 ай бұрын
I love this story but dam some of these names just kinda sound unimpressive Judge cleric? Judge warrior? Judge assassin? Come on besides that I love it
@ShadmehR_234 ай бұрын
This game is very good imo.. Both worlds are good.. gameplay is not bad((fromsoftware fanboys/girls saying its bad cuz shield sound when you block is not good i mean wtf??)) if you going to say its bad Gotta remind you fromsoftware using 2009 demon's souls animations and you're all fine with it.. The story..that humans are stupid and witless.. Is awesome and true! but i want more endings.. something like burning The world with the goods and all! your hero will be like You know what?Fvck them all!
@stinyg8 ай бұрын
Lords of the Fallen actually has a good and coherent overarching story and good sub plots aswell. In DS and Elden Ring its not only incoherent but it frequently contradicts ifself. And when you do piece together the story and try to summarize it. You'll realize how terrible it actually is . However the plot story in Elden Ring after the shattering is actually quite good.
@Diabeticninja908 ай бұрын
Lies .. dark souls trilogy is literally one of best stories ever told about cycles and destruction , if you don’t understand it that’s a whole another problem ..can’t even compare elden ring to this it’s laughable
@TuNguyen-vu1cg8 ай бұрын
@@Diabeticninja90yeah. In ER and DS we can go examine every details in the game (statues, corpses, etc...) and add more context for item descriptions. We can connect in-game lore with IRL references. I don't think people can do similar things in LOTF.
@Diabeticninja908 ай бұрын
@@TuNguyen-vu1cg hence my point , fromsoft is superior in every way possible
@stinyg8 ай бұрын
@@Diabeticninja90 oh really. Please summarize the story of dark souls or elden ring in less than 200 words without sounding like a complete idiot. I DARE YOU!!!
@stinyg8 ай бұрын
@@TuNguyen-vu1cg you can akshUaLLy. But clearly you haven't played this game and i doubt you played either dark souls or elden ring. Just here to troll.
@phaydhaygaming63886 ай бұрын
Ssssssssssssssssssss snake
@pillepolle31227 ай бұрын
somehow I didnt give a single F about the story of this game.
@EzeLolo868 ай бұрын
So... they went woke to please the woke mob. I played a lot LOF 2023 but never played the original. Thanks, now i realize it. I personally i don't have an issue with strong female characters at all but, i was wondering why there are so many in this game.
@ThievingWizard6 ай бұрын
The last thing I thought while playing this game was "damn woke devs and their female characters" but go off xD
@andreamaral9725Ай бұрын
You're slow
@Darkbloom0067 ай бұрын
Only watching this video out of boredom. This game was trash and I think I'm far from the only one that thinks the original was better and that's pretty damn sad. Lies of P was done leaps and bounds better than this shit.
@andreamaral9725Ай бұрын
💀💀💀 that was a horrible take, the first sucks, the 2nd is truly marvelous, lies of p is good but not comparable.
@zithoraxeovette9348 ай бұрын
WHY ARE YOU WISHPERING?! SPEAK UP
@jiro4355Ай бұрын
these endings are cheeks
@Diabeticninja908 ай бұрын
Fromsoft still king
@igorspirin66734 ай бұрын
turned this off on 0:01 as I can't stand vocal fry teens.